Efan said:

Regarding the other major storyline this season: There is just NO way in hell that Andrea and Michonne would even consider leaving that idyllic town run by the Governor. Yes, WE know he's evil, but they don't and I just don't buy this "Let's go look for an island" BS. You've got a town with people and big tall walls and food and water...and a hot guy who clearly wants to bang. You'd stay put.

Yeah but, the Governor just wants to bang Andrea and vice versa....Michonne has other plans. I wish Andrea could see past the dick and stop volunteering info that could hurt them all in the end.

chocolate1 said:

missfee said:

Damn, you do have a point there.

I noticed it, too, but I thought that his body looked so "eaten", that he probably wouldn't rise again.

If they're not shot in the head, they will reanimate. Remember the half eaten woman from the very first episode?

missfee said:

Efan said:

Regarding the other major storyline this season: There is just NO way in hell that Andrea and Michonne would even consider leaving that idyllic town run by the Governor. Yes, WE know he's evil, but they don't and I just don't buy this "Let's go look for an island" BS. You've got a town with people and big tall walls and food and water...and a hot guy who clearly wants to bang. You'd stay put.

Yeah but, the Governor just wants to bang Andrea and vice versa....Michonne has other plans. I wish Andrea could see past the dick and stop volunteering info that could hurt them all in the end.

But she doesn't know that the info is going to hurt them. She's just giving Merle information on how to find his brother, which is totally believable and understandable. All Andrea really knows about Merle is that he's a racist, sexist pig, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't help him find his brother, who has proven time and again to be a good guy. To me, Andrea is the one who acts in the most "believable" sense (obviously, believability is something of a relative term here).

Assuming they follow the comics' storyline, Michonne is in for a world of hurt if she sticks around. But other than just having a "bad gut feeling," she has no reason to leave the safety of this nice little town, so I'm not buying her motivation here. (Well, she DOES seem to suspect the murder of the National Guard guys, so maybe that is a factor. But I still think she'd be happy to have a nice little town for a while and would kind of overlook some things. )

Nevertheless, I think the point will probably be moot after the next episode, because I'm sure she's about to have a lot of reasons to want to get away from the Governor.

chocolate1 said:

missfee said:

Damn, you do have a point there.

I noticed it, too, but I thought that his body looked so "eaten", that he probably wouldn't rise again.

That's just it. He'd just lay there in Zombie heaven...even worse!

Neither of their reactions really makes sense.

Michonne- Absolute and utter distrust.

Andrea- Absolute and utter trust.

IMHO, you take the time to get the lay of the land (and a lay of the Guvnah if you're so inclined). Sleep well, SHOWER, eat and drink carefully ('cause I think that tea is spiked), THEN you make the call to go or stay.

JustErin said:

chocolate1 said:

I noticed it, too, but I thought that his body looked so "eaten", that he probably wouldn't rise again.

That's just it. He'd just lay there in Zombie heaven...even worse!

I was wondering about that as well. Guess it's one of those plot convenience things. He could be lying there in Zombie heaven, or he so much was eaten of his head that it basically counted as a decapitation.

Nothinbutjoy said:

JustErin said:

That's just it. He'd just lay there in Zombie heaven...even worse!

I was wondering about that as well. Guess it's one of those plot convenience things. He could be lying there in Zombie heaven, or he so much was eaten of his head that it basically counted as a decapitation.

Yeah, I was trying to see his head but couldn't make it out.

runphilrun said:

chocolate1 said:

I noticed it, too, but I thought that his body looked so "eaten", that he probably wouldn't rise again.

If they're not shot in the head, they will reanimate. Remember the half eaten woman from the very first episode?

Yes... of course I do. (I even watched the webisodes showing how she got like that! ) But she had half a body, so she could drag herself along...

From what they showed, T-Dogg looked like a side of beef. That female walker ripped a huge chunk of his throat out, so I really thought his head was going to come off...

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chocolate1 said:

runphilrun said:

If they're not shot in the head, they will reanimate. Remember the half eaten woman from the very first episode?

Yes... of course I do. (I even watched the webisodes showing how she got like that! ) But she had half a body, so she could drag herself along...

From what they showed, T-Dogg looked like a side of beef. That female walker ripped a huge chunk of his throat out, so I really thought his head was going to come off...

[Edited 11/5/12 12:59pm]

You'll probably right, he'd be flopping around pathetically on the ground. My guess during the next episode, when Rick goes on his Zombie killing rampage, TDog will be the first zombie he'll shoot in the head.

Next week has potential to be even more gut wretching!

Examples:

As mentioned, Rick ends up having to kill Zombie T-Dog.

What if Carl didn't second kill his mom and they have to kill her as a zombie.

What if, in a sad mirroring of what happened to her daughter, Carole can't be found, until she's found as a zombie and has to be killed.

runphilrun said:

chocolate1 said:

Yes... of course I do. (I even watched the webisodes showing how she got like that! ) But she had half a body, so she could drag herself along...

From what they showed, T-Dogg looked like a side of beef. That female walker ripped a huge chunk of his throat out, so I really thought his head was going to come off...

[Edited 11/5/12 12:59pm]

You'll probably right, he'd be flopping around pathetically on the ground. My guess during the next episode, when Rick goes on his Zombie killing rampage, TDog will be the first zombie he'll shoot in the head.

Could be, but T-Dog may not be zombified...

When Carol escaped, she had her headwrap on. When Rick found T-Dog's remains, though, he also found Carol's headwrap.

Perhaps Carol returned to T-Dog's body to destroy the brain, making sure he'd not turn. (She had raised the concern with him.) And for whatever reason, she left her wrap.

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JustErin said:

Efan said:

That whole situation was just ridiculous. She was so desperate to save a kid that has practically a zero chance of surviving without her colostrum and milk, etc. So she decides it's better to attempt to save this baby, make her son watch her get ripped open and then have him shoot her in the head.

So now Carl has to live with that and will most likely watch his sister die as well.

Once again, awesome mother.

I hear you, but Lori was a goner either way. And what she did was kind of selfless from one point of view: Her options were to die along with the unborn baby and have someone need to shoot them both in the head, or to sacrifice herself as she did to give the baby a chance at life, which was Rick's insistence. She wanted to terminate the pregnancy from the onset. I assume she did what she did -- crazy and unsustainable as it seems -- to honour Rick after all that had happened.

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Lammastide said:

runphilrun said:

You'll probably right, he'd be flopping around pathetically on the ground. My guess during the next episode, when Rick goes on his Zombie killing rampage, TDog will be the first zombie he'll shoot in the head.

Could be, but T-Dog may not be zombified...

When Carol escaped, she had her headwrap on. When Rick found T-Dog's remains, though, he also found Carol's headwrap.

Perhaps Carol returned to T-Dog's body to destroy the brain, making sure he'd not turn. (She had raised the concern with him.) And for whatever reason, she left her wrap.

[Edited 11/5/12 13:38pm]

Good catch.My guess is if Carol returned, one of the two zombies grabbed at her and pulled her scarf off & she ran away again. But that doesn't explain why Herschel & Maggie didn't see her escape. Maybe she got attacked at some point by other zombies

I'm worried Carol didn't make it either. The preview hint at Glenn digging 3 graves, it could be just the wording to throw people off, but it's agitating the living heck out of me, I wanna know and I wanna know now.

I think Carl did shot his mom, there is this change in his behavior these days, that he takes his duty within the group seriously. And I'd like to mention he's become an excellent shot, he was bullseye every time.

Rick made me cry.

I think Michonne's in love.

All I can say is...

THAT WAS THE BEST FRICKING EPISODE HANDS DOWN!!!!!

I feel so bad for Rick I mean damn dude has been through alot since he woke up in the hospital, he basically had to become a stone cold killer , killed his best friend and now this-poor guy. But yeah I love this damn show! If this series does not win some awards something is wrong-best shit on tv right now.

I cried twice on this episode. Soooooo good!!!!