:weed:

:beef and broccoli with white rice and a lot of soy sauce:

:pee:

right off the bat, let me say i remember enjoying this a lot more than 1 and 2. lets see if that holds up.

right into giant ship battle that reminds me of Star Trek or battlestar: galactica (which was one of the best tv shows i have ever seen. i highly recommend it)

for some reason ani and obi's ships sound like a cat meowing. i keep pausing it to make sure my cats are okay.

first lines of the movie:
"thats grevious's ship up ahead. the one crawling with vulture droids" says anakin.
"oh, this is going to be easy." snarks obi-wan.

already i like the writing way more than the first two. sarcasm can be a wonderful thing.

hayden christiansen looks good with the longer hair. ewan mcgregor does not look as good with the long beard. makes him look more like alec guiness though.

ani and obi land in the ships bay and start knocking off dustbusters. there are dustbusters literally 4 feet from them shooting at them and STILL cant hit them. dustbusters really are useless.

"well, r2 has been-" obi starts
"ugh. no loose wire jokes" ani says, cutting him off.
"did i say anything?" obi asks.
"he's trying." ani says.
"i didnt say anything!" obi chuckles.
this script is soooo much better than the previous 2.

"get help. youre no match for him, he's a sith lord" palpy says.
"chancellor palpatine... sith lords are our speciality" says obi.
i really want to look up who wrote this and send him a fruit bouquet.

dooku is beheaded. these movies really are not for kids.

one of the troopers just did the wilhelm scream as he got sucked out.
:lol:

okay... if you are going to all the lengths of pointing out grievous has lungs and coughs a lot, how is he able to walk along the outside full of the ship outside of the planets atmosphere... where there is not enough air to breathe??

that being said, they just crashed the ship in safely and obi says "another happy landing".
i know i keep saying it, but good lord the dialogue is so much better in this movie. obi-wan keeps cracking funny little jokes. its so refreshing.

a whole scene with jar jar in it without him saying anything. i love this shit out of this writer. even the padme anikin reunited scene where she announces shes pregnant seems decently written.

You're not done yet!

cborgman said:

yoda teaching kindergarten jedi kids is kind of cute, but why are the kids using lightsabers?

They are training to be Jedi. LOL.

Hudson said:

seen it repeatedly. i am a HUGE fan of "so bad it's funny" movies, and often the holiday special is a big part of that. the bea arthur song i one of the most bizarre moments in tv history and SW history.

Adisa said:

i know, but damn. i would never give a 6 year old a lightsaber. i mean... damn.

hayden looks yum shirtless. perky little nipples. nom-nom-nom, just saying.

oh
my
damn.
amidala's nightgown literally has 3 pearl strands draped off the shoulders onto the upper arms. a huge broach on the sternum, and a huge necklace. this is like a project runway nightgown that austin would have designed.

i love that in a scene with yoda and anakin is lit by venetian blind slats. slashes of lights on the eyes and the lines on the floor. knowing lucas the venetian blinds were probably done with CGI rather than shot on a set with practical lighting.

the aging make up on palpatine is really good. they have aged him about 30 years in a three movie span. they are subtly aging ewan from like 26 to 40 or so. aside from those two, everyone else looks the same age.

which makes me wonder. amidala was the teenage girl queen, and the queen who replaced her in episode 2 is a teen girl. why does naboo only elect teen girls as their leader? i wouldnt trust a teen of either gender to make gov't decisions for me. could you imagine justin bieber in charge of FEMA right now?

they keep talking about the prophecy in these movies but never saying exactly what the prophecy is. its kind of annoying.

anikin is mad because amidala is talking politics. she wants to defect, but he seems more annoyed that she is talking about work.

the opera scene with ani and palpy immediately makes me long for the opera scene in fifth element. that blue bitch could SANG.


for some reason, hayden looks like his eyes are unnaturally far apart. maybe its just that my screen is pretty big, but its hard to see both of his pupils at once. i keep waiting for them to cut to a shot of him where he gets marty feldman eyes for a second.

this really is the best of the prequels already. i am much more interested in this one than i ever was episode 1 or 2.

wookies! yay wookies! i actually forgot there were wookies in this one.

DAMN! wookies and stormtroopers versus dustbusters! short battle but cool as hell!
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almost an hour in and i dont think i have had to endure a single jar jar line.

i looked it up and the rumor is tom stoppard did uncredited script doctoring. it really shows. this is much better than lucas' writing. stoppard is one of my favorite playwrights as a reader and a hero of mine as a young(ish) playwright. he did the marvelous "rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead" which i highly recommend.

the obi-wan vs greivous fight is really cool. the dialogue is simple and effective.

"hello there" obi says as he drops onto the platform to fight him.

the cgi looks much better in this one than it did in the others. much more organic and underused in a good way. he is generally saving it for when it needs to big and making the rest subtle when it needs to be. it really works better and is much less distracting than in the previous 2.

someone should cast hayden as uma thurman's little brother or son. they both have eyes that are very far apart.

part 2 of obi vs greivous. i dont know about the lizard-parrot hybrid obi is riding. seems kind of silly.

greevy is dead. seems like a bit of a design fail to have his organs so easily accessed by simply pushing the two plates apart. a simple couple of metal pieces to close the two panels would have saved his life.

have to say again: samuel motherfucking jackson is surprisingly NOT badass with the lightsaber. the saber battle with him and palpy is like watching two old men try to swordfight. neither is moving fast, and seems more burdened by the lightsaber than profficiant with it.

okay, palpy using electric hands and it giving him the shar-pei face is kind of cool.

damn... they just killed sam!!!

okay, ian mcdiarmid as palpy/the emperor is fucking AWESOME. THIS is a performance and he is the best actor in the prequels, hands down.
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another over the top yoda fight with stormtroopers in which he flips all over the place. this is one of the only bad things about this movie, which is saying a lot.

the shots of the dead jedi kids is really sad.

on the plus side, i am 3/4 of the way through the movie and still dont think i have heard a jar jar line, which really makes up for any flaws in this movie.

vader just killed a whole room full of chinese fish people, dustbusters and so on. he's gone full on cold killer.

"so this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause" is one of the best lines in the whole series of 6 movies. thats pure stoppard.

HOT DAMN! the vader/obi-wan fight is fucking fantastic!! the choreagraphy is amazing and the two of them are smooth as hell. hayden in particular is amazing with the lightsaber.

ian mcdiarmid is killing it in the yoad/emperor scenes. he is AWESOME as the emp. he is worth his weight in gold in these movies.

but the lightsbaer battle with him and yoda is... meh. i just dont buy that yoda can flip around like that. the magic and laserhands between these two is much more interesting than the saber battles.

yoda climbing through the electrical tunnel to escape is kinda sad.

the burning of anakin sealing his fate into vader's was incredible... and surprisingly heartbreaking. but also, wow these movies are not for young kids.

the intercut scenes between amidala giving birth and anakin being turned into vader is phenomenal and sad on both sides. the vader "noooo" is cheesy though.

i have to say: i remember liking this one a lot, but i had forgotten how excelent it really is. i would honestly give it 9 out of 10 stars, and i would say this is the best of the 4 lucas directed, and second only to empire. it actually made up for some of the horribleness of 1 and 2

:clap:

“Hold me, like you did by the lake on Naboo; so long ago when there was nothing but our love. No politics, no plotting, no war.” - Padmé

With regards to the line above, for that one reason alone, all copies of the movie should be destroyed and Disney should redo all the prequels.

To me, Episode III continues the same tragic set of completely unforgivable mistakes the previous two movies made.

First is the fact that there seems to be no protagonist. Is Obiwan the character that we are supposed to identify with? Is Aniken? Yoda? I have no clue. We're left to suspect that Aniken is our modern template for a classical fallen hero and that we will follow him throughout the film, but the movie doesn't actually execute the progression as such.

There is nothing in him that we can identify with. We know he wants more. We also know from previous films that he vowed to never let those he loved die. So, this should serve as the motivation for his actions...for his turning to the dark side.

The problem is that this motivational plot device is a carry over from a previous film. So, we're left to wonder why they love each other so much in this film. And, again we're given no reason. He whines and whines and shows little or no charm throughout the movei--a real winner for Padme I'm sure. I mean, every scene where they're not unconvincingly showing affection, they're engaged in stiff dialogue or he's whining. I can't for the love of me understand what Padme sees in him. Hell, I can't even see why I should care about him.

King Kong, an animated monkey in an overblown remake was a far more convincing fallen hero of sorts. The tender, unspoken moments between him and his beatiality craving blonde bombshell are far more endearing than any moment Aniken or Padme share.

I won't bother getting into the plotholls because a lot of movies have those, but suffice it to say they are abundant in this film.

The worst thing for me though is just how stupid the characters seem to be. They are consistently stupid throughout the films, and indeed in this one. Palpatine is obviously evil, and nobody seems to notice this. Yoda even gives vague suspicious looks at him but never actually suspects that he's the Sith Lord EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT AND IS LOOKING FOR?

The "execute order 66" bit was exceedingly laughable, and I can't even fathom how every jedi could possibly have not been able to escape a bunch of Clones trying to take them out. Remember, these are Jedi Knights--not padawans.

Aniken's decision to off Windu is far too abrubt and unconvincing, but the worst part about it is that we the audience still don't understand nor feel the desperation in him to save Padme. Far too much is going on in the film for us to care at that point.

Again, animated flicks like Finding Nemo are able to pull this off so much better. We feel desperately for the father as he attempts to find his son in this impossibly large ocean. We know this is an animated flick so he will find his son in the end, but it's the emotional stakes that hook us in, the love of the characters, and the understanding on a visceral level of his need to protect his son.

We get NONE of that in Sith, and barely any of it if we factor in the motivational points from the second episode previous to it.

Like Nemo, we know what will happen to Aniken. We know he will be Darth Vader. Hell, we even know that 30 some odd years later he will be redeemed.

The problem is that we couldn't really care less by the third act of Sith, which by the way lasts 30ish damned minutes. Really? A 30 minute sword fight? Oh for fucks sake.

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i agree that palpatine is the only "character" in the entire prequel .. everybody else taste like a cardboard box

i disagree about the "noooooooo" line in sith .. it is one of the very very very very few memorable lines in the whole trilogy .. it has that "laugh it up fuzz ball" / "who you calling scruffy lookin" repeatable quality .. the only other cool line in the prequels is when the emperor says "rise"

yup thats it .. two good lines .. ahem .. words ... in the whole prequel .. makes u think maybe disney already owns star wars

saying that sith is good because of a lack of jar jar is like saying prince is good because tony m is gone .. your mind is clouded by the dark side of the force .. its just not a good reason to like something .. you are in effect saying .. lucas lowered your expectations so much that you like sith because it is not as embarassing as the first 2 prequels .. again the prince analogy works here

i would love to see prince in the new star wars movie tho .. maybe he could play yodas cousin or something

now go put on empire and remind yourself what a good movie looks and feels like .. notice there are not 300 lightsabers in every battle .. notice the jedi the battles are not won by a jedi walking casually into war swinging a lightsaber like a twirling baton and defeating 3,000 droids with as much effort as it takes to yawn .. notice the characters make sense and there is an actual plot .. notice talented actors are actually utilized, unlike portman and jackson, who litterally talk like they have zero emotions

i would agree sith is probably the better of the prequels .. altho i really enjoy the jango fett back story of attack of the clones .. but the fact remains .. much like modern prince .. the prequels are so offensive as a star wars fan .. so completely dumbed down as a non moron .. so whoreish in using the star wars world to pimp crap movies and toys / make money without actual artistry .. that I am much happier pretending these movies don't exist and never ever watching them again

i have my unedited original trilogy vhs tapes .. the ones without all the over dubbed cgi crap ... considering disney spent billions .. the new star wars will be about profit .. not art .. not respect for the craft or legacy of star wars