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Reply #60 posted 10/31/12 3:25pm

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Azz said:



JoeTyler said:




Azz said:


On second thought; they've made each of the Avengers movies - haven't they?



confused



The only one which was good was Iron Man, and that was solely because of Robert Downey Jr




oranges and apples



like you've said, there's no way Episode VII can be as BAD/DISAPPOITING as I and II



SW films are sometimes violent, but not bloody/dark (except III; V wasn't bloody), Disney/Paramount IS the logical partner to keep the legacy of SW alive at least for the next 30 years cool



and, with any luck, we'll have an Indy 5 or an Indy-related spin/off, which, then again, WON'T be as bad as Crystal Skull...lol



Lucas has done what we all wanted (deep down): to finally STEP ASIDE, since he has lost his magic touch; now I respect him more than ever






Very true, very true.



I think that the executive producer - forgive me, I've forgotten her name - was a good choice by George.



I pray they choose the right writers director and actors. So excited to find out more info.

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kathleen kennedy

and yes, she is a great choice. she did almost all of spielberg's best films. shes the perfect choice.
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Reply #61 posted 10/31/12 3:54pm

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cborgman said:

Alright... started watching episode 1. first thoughts: the armies of robots look like dustbusters that grew legs. they are also the least efficiant shots in the galaxy and are extremely easy to defeat. why in the world would anyone rely on them as protection from anything?? good lord, the dialogue is terrible. half the time its the most relentlessly tedious fiscal conversation, the other half seem like bad attempts at jokes. "you were right about one thing, master... the negotiations were short." says ewan mcgregor, then gives a silly little half-smile to liam neeson wanh-wanhhh... the colors are more vibrant than i remember, particularly on naboo. this film is really pretty, however insipid. i still hate the shit out of jar jar binks. i had to turn the subtitles on to understand half of what he says and seeing his words in print only makes me hate him more. why did lucas think a character that essentially seems like a mentally challenged jamacian would be a good idea? it's like they've brought along jamacian elmo, except elmo is no longer a 4 year old (except mentally), but is instead the product of a love affair between roger rabbit and a catfish with an IQ of about 68. why in the world would any intelligent person take this buffoon with them on an important mission? what purpose could he possibly serve beyond navigating them through the water on naboo? if i was obi-wan, i would wave my hand and do the whole "these are not the droids you are looking for" thing to jar-jar. wave of the hand, "you are going to shut the hell up because you have nothing to offer" and problem solved... "count me outta dis one" says jar-jar. "better dead here than dead in da core" and then a half second later with no prompting: "yee gods! what mesa sayin?" comedic music in score, little bit of vomit in my mouth. "there's always a bigger fish" says liam neeson, and i wait for him to give a smug smile and raise an eyebrow to the camera like "ahhh! i made a funny?" instead he looks right into the camera for a half-second and i feel his pain. if this movie is made for kids then why the hell is there so much trade routes, taxation , senate, and other political conversation?!?!? most adults cant tolerate this stuff, let alone any single kid i have ever met. wait... liam just said the force will guide their path underwater. so why the hell did they take jar-jar?? this movie makes no sense. . [Edited 10/31/12 14:53pm]

I agree entirely.


These comments you made remind me of a critical analysis I wrote of this film when I was a young teen (13/14 ish)...

I may have it on my email somewhere.... I will try and find it, should be a good laugh.. for me anyway.

wait, what? we're exactly the same age?? fuck you man I thought you were like... older lol wink

amd for cborgman= don't rhe forget the good stuff of EpI, the Jedi Council scenes and the Darth Maul scenes wink

or the Sidious scenes "I don't want this maggot in front of me again" or something like that, that line was pretty hardcore for a kid-oriented SW film

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Reply #62 posted 10/31/12 4:18pm

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again, qui-gon is the dumbest jedi in history. i had forgotten that the entire story purpose for the ridiculously overlong pod race sequence that is coming is that qui-gon needs money for ship repairs.

so he bets on a pod race?? i am willing to accept that maybe he senses the boy is somehow force-propelled in his driving, but... this is a very silly plot point. it blows my mind that such a huge section of this movie is centered on this stupid podrace story point.

this movie seems more and more like filler to get to the exposition of episode 2 and the payout of episode 3. what little of episode 1 that makes any kind of difference to the story could easily have been shrunk down to about 15 minutes of good storytelling. the rest is just flashy filler to disguise how unimportant this movie is to the real story. this movies i what would have happened if lucas had taken the first 15 minutes of episode 4 and filled it with nonsense. we would have gotten 20 minutes of him bullseyeing womp rats in his t-16.

it's just pointless.

just when i thought jar jar could not be any more annoying they spend a few minutes doing schtick as he gets his face numbed by the lazer... not stepping in shit/blowing raspberries/getting kicked in the balls bad, but... wow. just... wow. this script is so bad.

finally to the pod-race. i remember this being the most pointless and overlong part of the movie to the point it gets boring. lets see if my memory is correct:

55:05
very beginning of podrace sequence
long introductions of podracers, none of which matter. the only characters that matter are annikin and his nemesis.
pointless physical three stooges comedy between pitcrew robots.
fart joke with jar jar and some kind of hairless camel that is a strong contender for the earlier mentioned 3 low points of jar-jar. why is there even a camel on the podrace track??
jaba cameo: cute if not pointless.
full minute of shots of podracers starting their engines, mostly ancillary characters that dont matter... why?

1:00
light goes off, race finally starts.
pointless shot of vendor selling food to audience... why?
more robot pitcrew schtick... bleh.
shots of anikin's mother, quijon, amandala and co watching race on future ipad... wish my ipad had tusks on the side for holding.
1:10
anakin wins the race
podrace not as tediously long as i remember, but still too damn long at 15 minutes.

on anakin:
"why do i sense we've picked up another pathetic life-form?" obi-wan asks qui-gon.
"NOW YOU OBJECT???" i yell at the tv. the kid with the off the charts jedi blood sample you object to, but you were fine with bringing the pointless fish-rabbit who is so stupid he stiks his face in live electricity?!?!?

anikins mother seems rather blase about her child being freed from slavery, no tears, not emotion save a very slight smile. i would be weeping with joy for my child. she seems like the announcement is keeping her from something more important.

anakin also seems rather uncaring about leaving his mother in slavery. no tears, no emotion, just stupid lines like "i dont want things to change" and "i cant do it, mom. i just cant do it."

first darth maul battle.... really short and kind of... pointless.
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Reply #63 posted 10/31/12 4:23pm

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Kennedy is a great choice just for her work on Tiny Toons and Animaniacs alone. biggrin

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Reply #64 posted 10/31/12 4:28pm

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cborgman said:

again, qui-gon is the dumbest jedi in history. i had forgotten that the entire story purpose for the ridiculously overlong pod race sequence that is coming is that qui-gon needs money for ship repairs. so he bets on a pod race?? i am willing to accept that maybe he senses the boy is somehow force-propelled in his driving, but... this is a very silly plot point. it blows my mind that such a huge section of this movie is centered on this stupid podrace story point. this movie seems more and more like filler to get to the exposition of episode 2 and the payout of episode 3. what little of episode 1 that makes any kind of difference to the story could easily have been shrunk down to about 15 minutes of good storytelling. the rest is just flashy filler to disguise how unimportant this movie is to the real story. this movies i what would have happened if lucas had taken the first 15 minutes of episode 4 and filled it with nonsense. we would have gotten 20 minutes of him bullseyeing womp rats in his t-16. it's just pointless. just when i thought jar jar could not be any more annoying they spend a few minutes doing schtick as he gets his face numbed by the lazer... not stepping in shit/blowing raspberries/getting kicked in the balls bad, but... wow. just... wow. this script is so bad. finally to the pod-race. i remember this being the most pointless and overlong part of the movie to the point it gets boring. lets see if my memory is correct: 55:05 very beginning of podrace sequence long introductions of podracers, none of which matter. the only characters that matter are annikin and his nemesis. pointless physical three stooges comedy between pitcrew robots. fart joke with jar jar and some kind of hairless camel that is a strong contender for the earlier mentioned 3 low points of jar-jar. why is there even a camel on the podrace track?? jaba cameo: cute if not pointless. full minute of shots of podracers starting their engines, mostly ancillary characters that dont matter... why? 1:00 light goes off, race finally starts. pointless shot of vendor selling food to audience... why? more robot pitcrew schtick... bleh. shots of anikin's mother, quijon, amandala and co watching race on future ipad... wish my ipad had tusks on the side for holding. 1:10 anakin wins the race podrace not as tediously long as i remember, but still too damn long at 15 minutes. on anakin: "why do i sense we've picked up another pathetic life-form?" obi-wan asks qui-gon. "NOW YOU OBJECT???" i yell at the tv. the kid with the off the charts jedi blood sample you object to, but you were fine with bringing the pointless fish-rabbit who is so stupid he stiks his face in live electricity?!?!? anikins mother seems rather blase about her child being freed from slavery, no tears, not emotion save a very slight smile. i would be weeping with joy for my child. she seems like the announcement is keeping her from something more important. anakin also seems rather uncaring about leaving his mother in slavery. no tears, no emotion, just stupid lines like "i dont want things to change" and "i cant do it, mom. i just cant do it." first darth maul battle.... really short and kind of... pointless.

I like that part, it shows that Vader was already a cold mf even during his pre-teen years

her mother was cold as well, ahh...the genes man, the genes... cold mother -> cold lil bastard, they're both hardened slave farmers, no bullshitting around...

but hey, don't forget the death scene of pt.II, they both cried there

and I disagree about the first Maul battle, that was a highlight, I loved how Qui-Gon had to run for his life like the weak Jedi he actually was evillol

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Reply #65 posted 10/31/12 4:33pm

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JoeTyler said:



cborgman said:


again, qui-gon is the dumbest jedi in history. i had forgotten that the entire story purpose for the ridiculously overlong pod race sequence that is coming is that qui-gon needs money for ship repairs. so he bets on a pod race?? i am willing to accept that maybe he senses the boy is somehow force-propelled in his driving, but... this is a very silly plot point. it blows my mind that such a huge section of this movie is centered on this stupid podrace story point. this movie seems more and more like filler to get to the exposition of episode 2 and the payout of episode 3. what little of episode 1 that makes any kind of difference to the story could easily have been shrunk down to about 15 minutes of good storytelling. the rest is just flashy filler to disguise how unimportant this movie is to the real story. this movies i what would have happened if lucas had taken the first 15 minutes of episode 4 and filled it with nonsense. we would have gotten 20 minutes of him bullseyeing womp rats in his t-16. it's just pointless. just when i thought jar jar could not be any more annoying they spend a few minutes doing schtick as he gets his face numbed by the lazer... not stepping in shit/blowing raspberries/getting kicked in the balls bad, but... wow. just... wow. this script is so bad. finally to the pod-race. i remember this being the most pointless and overlong part of the movie to the point it gets boring. lets see if my memory is correct: 55:05 very beginning of podrace sequence long introductions of podracers, none of which matter. the only characters that matter are annikin and his nemesis. pointless physical three stooges comedy between pitcrew robots. fart joke with jar jar and some kind of hairless camel that is a strong contender for the earlier mentioned 3 low points of jar-jar. why is there even a camel on the podrace track?? jaba cameo: cute if not pointless. full minute of shots of podracers starting their engines, mostly ancillary characters that dont matter... why? 1:00 light goes off, race finally starts. pointless shot of vendor selling food to audience... why? more robot pitcrew schtick... bleh. shots of anikin's mother, quijon, amandala and co watching race on future ipad... wish my ipad had tusks on the side for holding. 1:10 anakin wins the race podrace not as tediously long as i remember, but still too damn long at 15 minutes. on anakin: "why do i sense we've picked up another pathetic life-form?" obi-wan asks qui-gon. "NOW YOU OBJECT???" i yell at the tv. the kid with the off the charts jedi blood sample you object to, but you were fine with bringing the pointless fish-rabbit who is so stupid he stiks his face in live electricity?!?!? anikins mother seems rather blase about her child being freed from slavery, no tears, not emotion save a very slight smile. i would be weeping with joy for my child. she seems like the announcement is keeping her from something more important. anakin also seems rather uncaring about leaving his mother in slavery. no tears, no emotion, just stupid lines like "i dont want things to change" and "i cant do it, mom. i just cant do it." first darth maul battle.... really short and kind of... pointless.



I like that part, it shows that Vader was already a cold mf even during his pre-teen years



her mother was cold as well, ahh...the genes man, the genes... cold mother -> cold lil bastard, they're both hardened slave farmers, no bullshitting around...



but hey, don't forget the death scene of pt.II, they both cried there



and I disagree about the first Maul battle, that was a highlight, I loved how Qui-Gon had to run for his life like the weak Jedi he actually was evillol


i dont know about running for his life. they battle for about 45 seconds, then qui-gon just leaps straight up into the air onto the bay door of the ship as it flies over his head, and maul just stands there watching him go. they both seem rather meh about it.

some running for life and emotion would have made it a lot more exciting. right now it just seems like a waltz between two strangers that the music cuts out on mid-step.
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Reply #66 posted 10/31/12 4:39pm

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cborgman said:

JoeTyler said:

I like that part, it shows that Vader was already a cold mf even during his pre-teen years

her mother was cold as well, ahh...the genes man, the genes... cold mother -> cold lil bastard, they're both hardened slave farmers, no bullshitting around...

but hey, don't forget the death scene of pt.II, they both cried there

and I disagree about the first Maul battle, that was a highlight, I loved how Qui-Gon had to run for his life like the weak Jedi he actually was evillol

i dont know about running for his life. they battle for about 45 seconds, then qui-gon just leaps straight up into the air onto the bay door of the ship as it flies over his head, and maul just stands there watching him go. they both seem rather meh about it. some running for life and emotion would have made it a lot more exciting. right now it just seems like a waltz between two strangers that the music cuts out on mid-step. [Edited 10/31/12 16:34pm]

man you HATE that film evillol

I'd say that 40% of Phantom Menace was decent (not great)

30% meh or weak and-or disappointing/puzzling

25% INSULTING/EMBARRASSING

and then a 5% of the magic of the past: the Duel of the Fates scene

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Reply #67 posted 10/31/12 4:44pm

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wait... my memory is hazy, but doesnt he go back for the mother in episode 2 and when she dies doesnt he go batshit and kill a bunch of people? isnt the death of the mother and of amandala what drives him to the dark side?

i dont thinks its coldness in that family, i think its just bad writing/directing
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Reply #68 posted 10/31/12 4:47pm

JoeTyler

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wait... my memory is hazy, but doesnt he go back for the mother in episode 2 and when she dies doesnt he go batshit and kill a bunch of people? isnt the death of the mother and of amandala what drives him to the dark side? i dont thinks its coldness in that family, i think its just bad writing/directing

nah, he fell because Sidious promissed him a personal harem of of hot guys and girls, but he had to kill the Jedi first, since they don't accept sex or love

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Reply #69 posted 10/31/12 4:47pm

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JoeTyler said:



cborgman said:


JoeTyler said:




I like that part, it shows that Vader was already a cold mf even during his pre-teen years



her mother was cold as well, ahh...the genes man, the genes... cold mother -> cold lil bastard, they're both hardened slave farmers, no bullshitting around...



but hey, don't forget the death scene of pt.II, they both cried there



and I disagree about the first Maul battle, that was a highlight, I loved how Qui-Gon had to run for his life like the weak Jedi he actually was evillol



i dont know about running for his life. they battle for about 45 seconds, then qui-gon just leaps straight up into the air onto the bay door of the ship as it flies over his head, and maul just stands there watching him go. they both seem rather meh about it. some running for life and emotion would have made it a lot more exciting. right now it just seems like a waltz between two strangers that the music cuts out on mid-step. [Edited 10/31/12 16:34pm]


man you HATE that film evillol



I'd say that 40% of Phantom Menace was decent (not great)



30% meh or weak and-or disappointing/puzzling



25% INSULTING/EMBARRASSING



and then a 5% of the magic of the past: the Duel of the Fates scene


i do remember the triple fight (which i think is what you mean by duel of the fates) being the only really good part.

the rest so far is just... it runs back and forth from being tedious to silly as hell to pointless to nonsensical. i am less disappointed/annoyed than i was when i got all hyped up and went opening day, but... its still pretty bad.

thankfully, i remember episode 2 being a little better, and episode 3 having some genuinely cool sections.

but man... trying to get through episode 1 is still a chore.
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Reply #70 posted 10/31/12 4:49pm

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JoeTyler said:



cborgman said:


wait... my memory is hazy, but doesnt he go back for the mother in episode 2 and when she dies doesnt he go batshit and kill a bunch of people? isnt the death of the mother and of amandala what drives him to the dark side? i dont thinks its coldness in that family, i think its just bad writing/directing


nah, he fell because Sidious promissed him a personal harem of of hot guys and girls, but he had to kill the Jedi first, since they don't accept sex or love




i dont remember that. i guess i will see. gonna try and do all 3 tonight. since nyc is shut the hell down i got nothing better to do (Actually, i should be working on my writing, but its hard to get motivated when i am avoiding going stir crazy), and making these notes about the movies is kind of fun.
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Reply #71 posted 10/31/12 4:51pm

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JoeTyler said:

nah, he fell because Sidious promissed him a personal harem of of hot guys and girls, but he had to kill the Jedi first, since they don't accept sex or love

i dont remember that. i guess i will see. gonna try and do all 3 tonight. since nyc is shut the hell down i got nothing better to do, and making these notes about the movies is kind of fun.

well, could be that or "look I don't really care if you wanna bang a female senator, but keep in mind that you should kill the Jedi first, because they are prunes"

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Reply #72 posted 10/31/12 5:29pm

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oh crap!
i forgot terrence stamp is in these! amazingly, he also seems really wooden. why is it in lucas' future emotions are rarer than diamonds and everyone speaks monotonally?

more politics.

i dont understand why the queen keeps taking long expanses of time for costume changes. she says as padme that she is worried because her people are dying, and the treaty must be signed ASAP, yet she makes these huge costume, hair, and makeup changes everytime she changes locations. um... priorities if time is of the essence?

okay... to the jedi council.

YODA and SAMUEL MOTHERFUCKING JACKSON!!! sam livens this movie up as much as he can while still retaining that unemotional monotone that all people of the future are apparently legally required to adopt.

one of the council looks like a q-tip.

2nd hair/makeup/costume change for amandala. that's two since she arrived on this planet. seriously... i dont remember leah making tons of ornate 50 pound costume changes unnecessarily. its part of the reason i like her as a character. she was kind of an early feminist. amandala is like a monotone barbie

the senate scene... i am honestly too busy looking for the ET in the scene to pay attention to yet another long speech about space politics and protocol.

woo-hoo! found ET!

oh, also... more politics. apparently she's making a vote of no confidence against terrance stamp... who i am guessing is the unemotional and monotonal joe biden of this senate. if lucas is trying to make a movie abotpolitical intrigue, he's really botching it. i love movies about politics and the legal system, and this is the most boring one i have ever seen.

OMFG!!!

i have just stumbled on what would have made for an infinitely more interesting movie that lucas reduced to 4 lines that have nothing else to do with the plot of this movie and is never explained:

obi-wan: "Do not defy the council, Master. Not again"
qui-gon: "I shall do what I must, Obi-Wan."
obi-wan: "If you would just follow the code, you would be on the council."

FUCK YES! that would have been an interesting plot or sub-plot for this movie. why lucas has this as throwaway lines with no relation to the plot is... mind-blowing.

3rd costume and hair change for amandala in the 8 hours or so since they arrived on this planet. i think she is the most boring character in this, even as padme. if lucas is trying to make a point that as the queen she must be formal, monotone, and have a lot of ridiculous outfits to make her point, but is a mellow and smart woman when she is just hanging out as padme, hes... not explaining it well. this just makes me long for leah's brand of kickass womanhood and feminism even more. leah didnt have to put on 3 foot wigs to be taken seriously in her political life.

i am loving the precious lack of jar jar in the second half of this movie though. while boring, it at least doesnt have a terrible scrappy doo like char distracting from the plot.

4th wardrobe and wig change for amandala since arriving.

unfortunately, like a bad case of herpes, jar jar has reappeared.

another 26 minutes to go. now i am over this movie and ready for 2.

amandala says she needs jar jar's help as part of their plan. my heart sinks knowing that means i have 26 more minutes of jar jar...

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Reply #73 posted 10/31/12 5:30pm

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JoeTyler said:



Azz said:




cborgman said:


Alright... started watching episode 1. first thoughts: the armies of robots look like dustbusters that grew legs. they are also the least efficiant shots in the galaxy and are extremely easy to defeat. why in the world would anyone rely on them as protection from anything?? good lord, the dialogue is terrible. half the time its the most relentlessly tedious fiscal conversation, the other half seem like bad attempts at jokes. "you were right about one thing, master... the negotiations were short." says ewan mcgregor, then gives a silly little half-smile to liam neeson wanh-wanhhh... the colors are more vibrant than i remember, particularly on naboo. this film is really pretty, however insipid. i still hate the shit out of jar jar binks. i had to turn the subtitles on to understand half of what he says and seeing his words in print only makes me hate him more. why did lucas think a character that essentially seems like a mentally challenged jamacian would be a good idea? it's like they've brought along jamacian elmo, except elmo is no longer a 4 year old (except mentally), but is instead the product of a love affair between roger rabbit and a catfish with an IQ of about 68. why in the world would any intelligent person take this buffoon with them on an important mission? what purpose could he possibly serve beyond navigating them through the water on naboo? if i was obi-wan, i would wave my hand and do the whole "these are not the droids you are looking for" thing to jar-jar. wave of the hand, "you are going to shut the hell up because you have nothing to offer" and problem solved... "count me outta dis one" says jar-jar. "better dead here than dead in da core" and then a half second later with no prompting: "yee gods! what mesa sayin?" comedic music in score, little bit of vomit in my mouth. "there's always a bigger fish" says liam neeson, and i wait for him to give a smug smile and raise an eyebrow to the camera like "ahhh! i made a funny?" instead he looks right into the camera for a half-second and i feel his pain. if this movie is made for kids then why the hell is there so much trade routes, taxation , senate, and other political conversation?!?!? most adults cant tolerate this stuff, let alone any single kid i have ever met. wait... liam just said the force will guide their path underwater. so why the hell did they take jar-jar?? this movie makes no sense. . [Edited 10/31/12 14:53pm]


I agree entirely.



These comments you made remind me of a critical analysis I wrote of this film when I was a young teen (13/14 ish)...



I may have it on my email somewhere.... I will try and find it, should be a good laugh.. for me anyway.





wait, what? we're exactly the same age?? fuck you man I thought you were like... older lol wink



amd for cborgman= don't rhe forget the good stuff of EpI, the Jedi Council scenes and the Darth Maul scenes wink


or the Sidious scenes "I don't want this maggot in front of me again" or something like that, that line was pretty hardcore for a kid-oriented SW film

[Edited 10/31/12 15:56pm]



I'm only 17 still... What gave you the impression I was much older??
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Reply #74 posted 10/31/12 5:52pm

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I rejoice the thought of Star Wars films ruling box office instead of those darned, stupid comic adaptations.

First The Hobbit (though not a huge fan of no.3 of LOTR) and now Star Wars

dancing jig excited

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Reply #75 posted 10/31/12 6:02pm

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they get back to naboo and amidala has changed again. none of the guys have changed from their outfits the entire movie. but at least this time she is wearing the more feminist practical outfit as padme.

dont really understand why water dwelling fish-rabbits have above water place as their "sacred place" but... okay.

okay... naboonistas (lol) and fish-rabbits are joining forces to fight chinese fish-people and dustbuster army.

:lol:

had kind of forgotten this entire ending happens.

crap: realized i misread the time left and have 25 minutes left... now.

battle scenes are long but often interesting. i think this is probably one of the few highs in the movie, but lord does it take forever and a day to get to the first interesting sequence.

joetyler, you were right. duel of the fates does rock. the jedi/sith fight in particular is pretty cool. maul is a badass, and the jedis are cool. qui-gon death should make me feel emotional if this movie were better, but rest of sequence with this battle is great. focus is strictly on the choreagraphy, and it works well. no terrible dialogue to screw it up.

jar jar is fucking up the movie again with a silly "droid torso stuck to my foot" bit. god, i hate this character. the whole dustbuster vs f-abbit thing is... meh. jar jar clumsily releases bombs and bumbles his way inyo victory for the f-abbits. i roll the crap out of my eyes.

amidala at least now a bit more interesting as padme fighting. as much as i love natalie portman, she really seems like she was miscast. angelina jolie amidala woulda been a lot more kickass.

couldnt care less about anakin and r2 in the plane. not even sure what bearing it has on the plot.

2 hours and 10 minutes and i am finally done.

5 stars out of 10 cause the decent 10 minutes of this do not support the 2 hours of tedious.

on to episode 2.

i should start a new thread. i am fucking this one up
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Reply #76 posted 10/31/12 6:07pm

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they get back to naboo and amidala has changed again. none of the guys have changed from their outfits the entire movie. but at least this time she is wearing the more feminist practical outfit as padme. dont really understand why water dwelling fish-rabbits have above water place as their "sacred place" but... okay. okay... naboonistas (lol) and fish-rabbits are joining forces to fight chinese fish-people and dustbuster army. lol had kind of forgotten this entire ending happens. crap: realized i misread the time left and have 25 minutes left... now. battle scenes are long but often interesting. i think this is probably one of the few highs in the movie, but lord does it take forever and a day to get to the first interesting sequence. joetyler, you were right. duel of the fates does rock. the jedi/sith fight in particular is pretty cool. maul is a badass, and the jedis are cool. qui-gon death should make me feel emotional if this movie were better, but rest of sequence with this battle is great. focus is strictly on the choreagraphy, and it works well. no terrible dialogue to screw it up. jar jar is fucking up the movie again with a silly "droid torso stuck to my foot" bit. god, i hate this character. the whole dustbuster vs f-abbit thing is... meh. jar jar clumsily releases bombs and bumbles his way inyo victory for the f-abbits. i roll the crap out of my eyes. amidala at least now a bit more interesting as padme fighting. as much as i love natalie portman, she really seems like she was miscast. angelina jolie amidala woulda been a lot more kickass. couldnt care less about anakin and r2 in the plane. not even sure what bearing it has on the plot. 2 hours and 10 minutes and i am finally done. 5 stars out of 10 cause the decent 10 minutes of this do not support the 2 hours of tedious. on to episode 2. i should start a new thread. i am fucking this one up


I think you should

and concerning the jedi battle; isn't it utterly stupid that after Kenobi witnesses his masters death prompting to scream out 'Nooo' (as I recall) he resumes the overly choreographed lightsaber battle which really diffuses any little emotion there was.

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Reply #77 posted 10/31/12 6:27pm

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Azz said:



cborgman said:


they get back to naboo and amidala has changed again. none of the guys have changed from their outfits the entire movie. but at least this time she is wearing the more feminist practical outfit as padme. dont really understand why water dwelling fish-rabbits have above water place as their "sacred place" but... okay. okay... naboonistas (lol) and fish-rabbits are joining forces to fight chinese fish-people and dustbuster army. lol had kind of forgotten this entire ending happens. crap: realized i misread the time left and have 25 minutes left... now. battle scenes are long but often interesting. i think this is probably one of the few highs in the movie, but lord does it take forever and a day to get to the first interesting sequence. joetyler, you were right. duel of the fates does rock. the jedi/sith fight in particular is pretty cool. maul is a badass, and the jedis are cool. qui-gon death should make me feel emotional if this movie were better, but rest of sequence with this battle is great. focus is strictly on the choreagraphy, and it works well. no terrible dialogue to screw it up. jar jar is fucking up the movie again with a silly "droid torso stuck to my foot" bit. god, i hate this character. the whole dustbuster vs f-abbit thing is... meh. jar jar clumsily releases bombs and bumbles his way inyo victory for the f-abbits. i roll the crap out of my eyes. amidala at least now a bit more interesting as padme fighting. as much as i love natalie portman, she really seems like she was miscast. angelina jolie amidala woulda been a lot more kickass. couldnt care less about anakin and r2 in the plane. not even sure what bearing it has on the plot. 2 hours and 10 minutes and i am finally done. 5 stars out of 10 cause the decent 10 minutes of this do not support the 2 hours of tedious. on to episode 2. i should start a new thread. i am fucking this one up


I think you should



and concerning the jedi battle; isn't it utterly stupid that after Kenobi witnesses his masters death prompting to scream out 'Nooo' (as I recall) he resumes the overly choreographed lightsaber battle which really diffuses any little emotion there was.

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i will start a new one.

didnt catch the "nooo!" as big, but already have ep 2 in player.

but, yes, that would diffuse the emotion
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Reply #78 posted 10/31/12 6:32pm

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Azz said:

I rejoice the thought of Star Wars films ruling box office instead of those darned, stupid comic adaptations.

First The Hobbit (though not a huge fan of no.3 of LOTR) and now Star Wars

dancing jig excited

[Edited 10/31/12 17:54pm]

I tried getting into LOTR but it took me 3 sittings to watch Fellowship director's cut. Should I watch the theatrical versions first or is LOTR just not to my taste?

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Reply #79 posted 10/31/12 6:33pm

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cborgman said:

Azz said:


I think you should

and concerning the jedi battle; isn't it utterly stupid that after Kenobi witnesses his masters death prompting to scream out 'Nooo' (as I recall) he resumes the overly choreographed lightsaber battle which really diffuses any little emotion there was.

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i will start a new one. didnt catch the "nooo!" as big, but already have ep 2 in player. but, yes, that would diffuse the emotion

There's a rather atrocious "Nooo!" on the ROTJ blu-ray. That was the first time I hated George. lol

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Reply #80 posted 10/31/12 6:39pm

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Hudson said:



Azz said:


I rejoice the thought of Star Wars films ruling box office instead of those darned, stupid comic adaptations.




First The Hobbit (though not a huge fan of no.3 of LOTR) and now Star Wars



dancing jig excited


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I tried getting into LOTR but it took me 3 sittings to watch Fellowship director's cut. Should I watch the theatrical versions first or is LOTR just not to my taste?


personally i was very confused and annoyed with the theatrical cuts, only having read the books once when i was a kid.

the directors cuts i found a lot more pleasing.
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Reply #81 posted 10/31/12 6:42pm

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Hudson said:



cborgman said:


Azz said:



I think you should



and concerning the jedi battle; isn't it utterly stupid that after Kenobi witnesses his masters death prompting to scream out 'Nooo' (as I recall) he resumes the overly choreographed lightsaber battle which really diffuses any little emotion there was.


[Edited 10/31/12 18:07pm]



i will start a new one. didnt catch the "nooo!" as big, but already have ep 2 in player. but, yes, that would diffuse the emotion


There's a rather atrocious "Nooo!" on the ROTJ blu-ray. That was the first time I hated George. lol


yea, i heard about that one and when i got the blurays and watched 4-6, that one really annoyed me.

it's just so unnecessary. for almost 30 years people understood what was going on without the stupid NOOOOO!

and it just makes the emperor look like an idiot for standing there and not noticing vader coming at him screaming NOOOOO!
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Reply #82 posted 10/31/12 7:15pm

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Hudson said:

Azz said:

I rejoice the thought of Star Wars films ruling box office instead of those darned, stupid comic adaptations.

First The Hobbit (though not a huge fan of no.3 of LOTR) and now Star Wars

dancing jig excited

[Edited 10/31/12 17:54pm]

I tried getting into LOTR but it took me 3 sittings to watch Fellowship director's cut. Should I watch the theatrical versions first or is LOTR just not to my taste?

Stay away from the extended editions!

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Now cmon Cborg, if you go back and watch star wars as an adult you will find plenty of hokey, bad acting and horrible lines abound. Stormtroopers were just as stupid and bad shots as the robots. smile

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I really don't know whether I like it or not. Being a huge fan of the six original movies (yeah, all of 'em), I'm very excited at the idea of more but on the other hand I think 3 years to conceive the basics of a new trilogy may be a bit hasty: can they really accomplish something in such a short time?

This beings aid it's win-win: the Ewoks movies sucked, as did many SW books, comic books and cartoons, but you could just choose to ignore them. Same here: we get masterpieces it's bloody great. We get crap we stick to what we like.

Now does Episode VII imply an old Luke, Leia, Han, and the original cast takeing back their roles???

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Now cmon Cborg, if you go back and watch star wars as an adult you will find plenty of hokey, bad acting and horrible lines abound. Stormtroopers were just as stupid and bad shots as the robots. smile

They sure got Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru, though! To the bone.

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I think this is great news!

Plus... The prediction I made about 15 years ago (when episode I was in production) is all coming together nicely! : The prediction was that after I, II & III were complete (check), there would be several more gap years (check), followed by VII & VIII, then Lucas would pass away, leaving IX in jeopardy. Kind of a cosmic tragedy wink

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Reply #87 posted 11/01/12 1:02am

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If the new episodes would follow the events of the original trilogy from the 70s and 80s they could cast Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford and all those guys as the same characters in their 50s. 60s and 70s. razz

It'll be like the Expendables in space.

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Reply #88 posted 11/01/12 1:27am

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Now cmon Cborg, if you go back and watch star wars as an adult you will find plenty of hokey, bad acting and horrible lines abound. Stormtroopers were just as stupid and bad shots as the robots. smile

i honestly dont recall much bad acting in the originals. they are somewhat wooden in new hope, but... not like this.

harrison carrie and mark actually deliver lines (and there are some super cheese ones) well. james earl jones makes vader a compelling and scary villan even while doing a somewhat monotone lucas performance.

the stormtroopers were a lot more interesting to watch, and while the storm troopers were rather bad shots, they at least had lines better than "roger, roger" repeatedly.

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ufoclub said:

lazycrockett said:

Now cmon Cborg, if you go back and watch star wars as an adult you will find plenty of hokey, bad acting and horrible lines abound. Stormtroopers were just as stupid and bad shots as the robots. smile

They sure got Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru, though! To the bone.

lol

yeah.

shot 'em dead, drank all their blue millk, and burned the place down.

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