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Reply #60 posted 10/28/12 4:30am

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Timmy84 said:

PurpleJedi said:

thumbs up!

Let's pray that this thing fizzles out

For real. nod

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Reply #61 posted 10/28/12 3:27pm

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damn they shutting down the busses and Subways starting at 7pm tonight sad

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Reply #62 posted 10/28/12 3:31pm

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banks said:

damn they shutting down the busses and Subways starting at 7pm tonight sad

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...guess I should go turn on the news...

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Reply #63 posted 10/28/12 4:17pm

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MTA Shutting Down Subways, Buses and Trains Starting at 7 p.m. Sunday [Updated]

MTA workers boarding up subway grates in low-lying areas. (Getty)

Update 10/28, 10:50: Governor Cuomo just announced that all MTA service will be shut down starting at 7 p.m. tonight. Full details from the MTA are at the bottom of this post.

“The transportation system is the lifeblood of the New York City region, and suspending all service is not a step I take lightly,” Governor Cuomo said in a statement. “But keeping New Yorkers safe is the first priority, and the best way to do that is to make sure they are out of harm’s way before gale-force winds can start wreaking havoc on trains and buses.”

MTA Chairman and CEO Joe Lhota stressed that this was the best decision for the MTA and the city and the agency was prepared to execute the work. “The MTA proved it can suspend service in an orderly manner when it did so last year for Tropical Storm Irene, and we have refined our Hurricane Plan since then to help us prepare for Hurricane Sandy,” he said. “This storm will batter the MTA, but the precautions we take now will allow us to recover much more quickly.”

The announcement came earlier than originally expected, which had been suggested would come sometime in the afternoon. This underscores the continued concerns about the storm and the fact it has yet to abate in strength.

Mr. Lhota said it could take until Wednesday for the system to be up and running again depending on the severity of the storm.

Original Post: As with Hurricane Irene, the MTA must decide whether to shut down the system before the storm actually gets here because it takes time to move the rolling stock to higher ground. This not only protects the equipment but also allows for an orderly reactivation of service.

The MTA is waiting until tomorrow to decide if it will shut down service or not, based on developing forecasts, but if it does, MTA CEO Joe Lhota announced today that the system would begin to wind down starting around 7 p.m. Sunday night, with the full end of service by 3 a.m. Monday morning.

Mr. Lhota stressed that people should plan their activities tomorrow around the possibility of a shutdown regardless of what the agency ultimately decides. A final decision is not expected until sometime tomorrow afternoon, which might not give riders time to make it home should they forestall their travel.

“If you’re coming into the city tomorrow, plan accordingly,” Mr. Lhota said.

Just because the MTA will be in some operation until 3 a.m. on Monday does not mean riders should wait to be on the move.

“All throughout our system it will be similar to what with happened with Hurricane Irene, or Tropical Storm Irene, two years ago,” Mr. Lhota explained. “That won’t happen until we get a go decision, sometime tomorrow, and then it will be started at 7 p.m. up until 3 a.m. So there will be inconsistent service until after 7 o’clock so I really encourage all New Yorkers to be where you need to be or try and be home after 7 o’clock because there’s really no guarantee after that, it will be inconsistent while we’re getting all of our assets under control.”

The main factors driving the shutdown is flooding, especially for the subway, though high winds can also play a factor. This is particularly and issue for the buses, which have to stop for anything over 39 miles per hour, as this can push the buses around dangerously. The bridges are also at risk when winds reach 60 miles per hour, though who really wants to be out driving in those kinds of conditions?

The full advisory from the MTA is below (Update 10/28):

New York City Transit

If a decision is made to suspend service, all New York City subway and bus service would need to be suspended by early Monday morning to allow crews to secure stations, tracks and tunnels before the onset of sustained winds of 39 mph or higher.

On the subway system, where the orderly suspension of service takes eight hours, service would begin to be curtailed after 7 p.m. Sunday. While some trains may continue to run for several additional hours, there would be no guarantee of any subway service after that time, so all customers who rely on the subway would have to plan to complete their travel by 7 p.m. Sunday.

The bus system requires six hours for the orderly suspension of service, so buses would be able to remain on their normal routes for as much as two hours after 7 p.m. Sunday. There would be no guarantee of any bus service after that time.

The MTA would run normal service until those times, with sufficient capacity to allow customers to leave vulnerable areas and reach safe destinations before service is suspended. Those who use the MTA to evacuate would be allowed to carry pets. Dogs must be leashed and, if possible, muzzled. Cats should be in carriers.

Subway stations in flood-prone locations such as lower Manhattan would be evacuated and secured. Critical track-level components would be removed from tunnels under rivers so they will not suffer the corrosive effects of salt water if they are flooded. Workers would secure all elevated stations to protect against damaging winds.

There would be no Access-A-Ride trips scheduled after 12 p.m. Sunday. Customers will be able to schedule trips until then.

Metro-North Railroad

If a decision is made to suspend service, Metro-North Railroad would run its final trains at 7 p.m. Sunday to prepare for the arrival of high winds and heavy rain. Customers are urged not to wait for the last trains when making their travel plans.

Grand Central Terminal, including its shops and restaurants, and all outlying Metro-North station buildings would be closed for the duration of the service suspension. In preparation, train equipment is being moved out of low-lying locations known to be prone to flooding, such as the Highbridge and Mott Haven yards in the Bronx.

As the storm approaches, Metro-North has secured its infrastructure by moving trucks and equipment such as backhoes, cranes and bulldozers, to higher ground.

Parking lots that usually flood, such as the ones at White Plains and Beacon, would be barricaded. Connecting ferry service at Beacon and Ossining would be suspended. The Hudson RailLink that serves Spuyten Duyvil and Riverdale would be suspended.

Metro-North has asked many employees to shelter during the storm at a Metro-North facility, so they will be immediately available to begin recovery efforts when the worst of the storm has passed.

Long Island Rail Road

If a decision is made to suspend service, Long Island Rail Road would run its final trains at 7 p.m. Sunday. Service would be suspended earlier on some outlying parts of the system because crews would be required to secure or remove 690 gates at 295 railroad crossings across Long Island to prevent them from being damaged by wind. Customers are urged not to wait for the last trains when making their travel plans.

This process takes approximately 12 hours and must be completed prior to forecasted sustained winds of 39 mph or higher. Crews would begin by removing gates east of Ronkonkoma on the Main Line to Greenport, where weekend service does not operate at this time of year. Additionally, crossing gates would start being removed on the Montauk Branch east of Speonk beginning Sunday morning, so train service would be replaced with buses from 9 a.m. Sunday until the full service suspension takes effect at 7 p.m.

Long Island residents, pedestrians and drivers need to be aware that the third rail remains electrified even during a service suspension and equipment trains may be operating. Please act in a safe manner in and around tracks.

In order to restore service, train equipment and crews must be repositioned, all crossing gates re-installed and fully tested and power to the crossing gates restored. In addition, any debris, such as fallen trees, must be removed from tracks and the right of way inspected.

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Reply #64 posted 10/28/12 4:20pm

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banks said:

damn they shutting down the busses and Subways starting at 7pm tonight sad

They're predicting a storm surge of flooding. It's due to it being baroclinic so the pressure of the storm is decreasing. They say it might get to 950 or whatever when it reaches landfall as a tropical storm.

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Reply #65 posted 10/28/12 4:30pm

Timmy84

To be honest, though, judging from the models I've seen, it's hard to tell if there would be a lot of damage. I'm guessing similar to Irene, they're looking at the pressure. I forgot what the pressure Irene was when it hit Eastern NC and spread its disaster to Central NC but who knows? Everyone up north is taking precautions just in case though.

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Reply #66 posted 10/28/12 4:47pm

Timmy84

This is the path that Sandy is predicted to take. Earlier in the week, it was supposed to clip NC, then it was supposed to enter around VA. Now it's moved up north. Be careful NE folks.

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Reply #67 posted 10/28/12 5:13pm

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Due to the storm and especially because of the subway shut down, my office is closed tomorrow, and possibly Tuesday, depending on how bad things are. Normally I'd be super excited, but we have a huge final report due on Wednesday (which I gave to my supervisor weeks/months ago) and she still hasn't finalized it. I hate waiting until the last minute (especially when it's completely avoidable) and now Wednesday is going to be even crazier trying to finish that report by the deadline. mad

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Reply #68 posted 10/28/12 5:37pm

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PurpleJedi said:



banks said:


damn they shutting down the busses and Subways starting at 7pm tonight sad




eek



...guess I should go turn on the news...





Yea, their afraid the subway will flood.For the LIRR,they r shutting down 2by 7pm. B4 the winds reach 40mph
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Reply #69 posted 10/28/12 7:11pm

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Well...

Gov. Christie has strongly suggested that all NJ schools close tomorrow... The town's Mayor has declared a state of emergency for the town... But the Superintendent hasn't called us yet.

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Reply #70 posted 10/28/12 7:19pm

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Our schools are out Monday & Tuesday

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Reply #71 posted 10/28/12 7:36pm

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chocolate1 said:

Well...

Gov. Christie has strongly suggested that all NJ schools close tomorrow... The town's Mayor has declared a state of emergency for the town... But the Superintendent hasn't called us yet.

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Just got the call... whew


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Reply #72 posted 10/28/12 9:07pm

Timmy84

chocolate1 said:

chocolate1 said:

Well...

Gov. Christie has strongly suggested that all NJ schools close tomorrow... The town's Mayor has declared a state of emergency for the town... But the Superintendent hasn't called us yet.

neutral

Just got the call... whew

Y'all stay safe...

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Reply #73 posted 10/28/12 9:24pm

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Yeah I got the robocall stating that my kids are off tomorrow.

...I haven't told them yet... evillol

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Reply #74 posted 10/28/12 9:26pm

Timmy84

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Yeah I got the robocall stating that my kids are off tomorrow.

...I haven't told them yet... evillol

You better tell them. no no no! lol

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Reply #75 posted 10/28/12 9:26pm

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Timmy84 said:

PurpleJedi said:

Yeah I got the robocall stating that my kids are off tomorrow.

...I haven't told them yet... evillol

You better tell them. no no no! lol

whistling

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Reply #76 posted 10/28/12 9:28pm

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Timmy84 said:

You better tell them. no no no! lol

whistling

Evil. evillol

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Reply #77 posted 10/28/12 9:29pm

Timmy84

Hmm, hours earlier, forecasts had the storm going farther west, now it's going east... and the pressure's risen a little. hmmm

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Reply #78 posted 10/28/12 9:40pm

Timmy84

Damn they ain't playing in Jersey, boy!

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Reply #79 posted 10/28/12 9:43pm

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Timmy84 said:

Damn they ain't playing in Jersey, boy!

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Dude! I tried FOUR different stores, and no D-size batteries in sight!

disbelief

The whole wall of flashlights at Target was EMPTY.

What do people do with their flashlights BETWEEN storms??????

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Reply #80 posted 10/28/12 9:44pm

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Timmy84 said:

Damn they ain't playing in Jersey, boy!

[img:$uid]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcmgm7HRN41qhno7oo1_500.jpg[/img:$uid]

Dude! I tried FOUR different stores, and no D-size batteries in sight!

disbelief

The whole wall of flashlights at Target was EMPTY.

What do people do with their flashlights BETWEEN storms??????

Who knows? lol

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Reply #81 posted 10/28/12 9:45pm

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Timmy84 said:

chocolate1 said:

Just got the call... whew

Y'all stay safe...

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Reply #82 posted 10/28/12 9:52pm

Timmy84

I know the old saying: "looks can be deceiving" but I'm not impressed with how it's looking now. It still has potential to be a messy nor'easter... we shall see. Pressure is 952 mb.

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Reply #83 posted 10/28/12 9:52pm

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Timmy84 said:

Y'all stay safe...

hug

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Reply #84 posted 10/29/12 1:00am

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Just got a text alert that my job is closed tomorrow!!!! Yaaaa hoooo!!!!!! But not so much if the power goes out. pout Here in VA they are expecting heavy rain and winds from 50-60 mph. At least there isn't winter weather mixed in...or at least they aren't expecting it.

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Reply #85 posted 10/29/12 1:03am

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PurpleJedi said:

Timmy84 said:

Damn they ain't playing in Jersey, boy!

[img:$uid]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcmgm7HRN41qhno7oo1_500.jpg[/img:$uid]

Dude! I tried FOUR different stores, and no D-size batteries in sight!

disbelief

The whole wall of flashlights at Target was EMPTY.

What do people do with their flashlights BETWEEN storms??????

It stays in the drawer with the extra Christmas bulbs and the scissors. lol

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #86 posted 10/29/12 1:29am

Timmy84

missfee said:

Just got a text alert that my job is closed tomorrow!!!! Yaaaa hoooo!!!!!! But not so much if the power goes out. pout Here in VA they are expecting heavy rain and winds from 50-60 mph. At least there isn't winter weather mixed in...or at least they aren't expecting it.

I think northeastern NC is getting some snow and wind/rain from the remnants of Sandy in the coastal part of NC. The rest of us west will still get some minor wind gusts (up to 30 mph) and rain into Tuesday afternoon allegedly.

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Reply #87 posted 10/29/12 2:15am

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Timmy84 said:

PurpleJedi said:

Yeah I got the robocall stating that my kids are off tomorrow.

...I haven't told them yet... evillol

You better tell them. no no no! lol

Hey PJ, you need a dose of you own....

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Reply #88 posted 10/29/12 2:37am

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TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

You better tell them. no no no! lol

Hey PJ, you need a dose of you own....

fishslap

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I finally told them.

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Reply #89 posted 10/29/12 3:11am

Timmy84

PurpleJedi said:

TD3 said:

Hey PJ, you need a dose of you own....

fishslap

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I finally told them.

Now that's a good father... smile

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