SynthiaRose said:

I resent that! Don't compare all of us Leos to this selfish, arrogant, troll of a man.

PurpleRighteous1 said:

SynthiaRose said:

Typical Leo.

First of all, a pause for this incredibly masculine physical spectacle.

Now, back to reality. He is incredibly self-centered and unable to grasp the amount of pain he caused his wife and children. He understands it mentally but clearly doesn't feel it deep in his soul and that's why he comes off so cavalierly. He just doesn't get it.

Arnold's goal in life is to have fun and be happy, and he clearly is not going to let devastating Maria interfere with those plans.

Yes, he is charming. He is commanding. He is lovable. And he probably can do and conquer anything he set his mind to -- but my gosh, I can't stand people who have no sense of loyalty or responsibility. I mean, there's even loyalty among theives right?

Arnie has been a personal hero of mine for a long time and I adored the Leo-Scorpio relationship between him and Maria. I feel torn about how much to despise him now. Clearly, he's done some amazing and inspiring things...

I know there's been debate today about how much Maria knew and put up with. So, her image is tattered as well. I do think women make concessions for very dynamic men. And this is a problem because if you keep negotiating your self-respect ... after a while you have nothing left. Whatever backlash Maria suffers at least she has learned that lesson.

[Edited 10/1/12 16:17pm]

I resent that! Don't compare all of us Leos to this selfish, arrogant, troll of a man.

Oh well, guess you ignored all the wonderful things I said about Leos.

Oh well, this will be debated in astrology forums until the end of time. Here's one discussion: http://www.dxpnet.com/opi...484090.asp

Here's the first post:

"I know a Leo who has confessed to have cheated on all of his girlfriends.

I also have a Leo friend who made out with a guy and her Aqua man dumped her.

I have a Leo friend who has a girlfriend in Georgia and he's always flirting with me and bugs me to call him all the time so we can hang out. I never call him of course. He knows my Leo boyfriend yet he doesn't care.

My cousin is a Leo and whenever he receives a call from his phone, he always runs to the bathroom (LOL!) then his wife Mrs. Capricorn always has to chase him there.

If it is true that most Leos are cheaters, please explain why Leos cheat."

Now, obviously you can't judge a person just by sun sign energy. Astro energy is only potential, not destiny. And clearly respondents in the above forum disagreed like you guys do. But I've seen people ask this question a lot. There's a lot of shit said about Scorpios that doesn't fit me, but it's still true of pure Scorpio energy -- I, just like everyone, have a blend of energy due to the whole natal chart.

^ Now, obviously you can't judge a person just by sun sign energy.

exactly right. judging people by which month they happ[ened to have been born in is like judging people by skin color, or any other stereotypical generalization that really does not apply.

XxAxX said:

^ Now, obviously you can't judge a person just by sun sign energy.

exactly right. judging people by which month they happ[ened to have been born in is like judging people by skin color, or any other stereotypical generalization that really does not apply.

I don't really agree with the technality of what you just said, but sense it's not going to help the overall discussion of Arnie, I"m not going to belabor the point.

SynthiaRose said:

Typical Leo.

First of all, a pause for this incredibly masculine physical spectacle.

Now, back to reality. He is incredibly self-centered and unable to grasp the amount of pain he caused his wife and children. He understands it mentally but clearly doesn't feel it deep in his soul and that's why he comes off so cavalierly. He just doesn't get it.

Arnold's goal in life is to have fun and be happy, and he clearly is not going to let devastating Maria interfere with those plans.

Yes, he is charming. He is commanding. He is lovable. And he probably can do and conquer anything he set his mind to -- but my gosh, I can't stand people who have no sense of loyalty or responsibility. I mean, there's even loyalty among theives right?

Arnie has been a personal hero of mine for a long time and I adored the Leo-Scorpio relationship between him and Maria. I feel torn about how much to despise him now. Clearly, he's done some amazing and inspiring things...

I know there's been debate today about how much Maria knew and put up with. So, her image is tattered as well. I do think women make concessions for very dynamic men. And this is a problem because if you keep negotiating your self-respect ... after a while you have nothing left. Whatever backlash Maria suffers at least she has learned that lesson.

[Edited 10/1/12 16:17pm]

He is not. He has always been ugly and annoying IMO. Thank God he immigrated to the USA !

You know he could get it.

... in five different positions.

flash biceps. panties disintegrate.

Serious said:

SynthiaRose said:

Typical Leo.

First of all, a pause for this incredibly masculine physical spectacle.

Now, back to reality. He is incredibly self-centered and unable to grasp the amount of pain he caused his wife and children. He understands it mentally but clearly doesn't feel it deep in his soul and that's why he comes off so cavalierly. He just doesn't get it.

Arnold's goal in life is to have fun and be happy, and he clearly is not going to let devastating Maria interfere with those plans.

Yes, he is charming. He is commanding. He is lovable. And he probably can do and conquer anything he set his mind to -- but my gosh, I can't stand people who have no sense of loyalty or responsibility. I mean, there's even loyalty among theives right?

Arnie has been a personal hero of mine for a long time and I adored the Leo-Scorpio relationship between him and Maria. I feel torn about how much to despise him now. Clearly, he's done some amazing and inspiring things...

I know there's been debate today about how much Maria knew and put up with. So, her image is tattered as well. I do think women make concessions for very dynamic men. And this is a problem because if you keep negotiating your self-respect ... after a while you have nothing left. Whatever backlash Maria suffers at least she has learned that lesson.

[Edited 10/1/12 16:17pm]

He is not. He has always been ugly and annoying IMO. Thank God he immigrated to the USA !

Gee, thanks! Maybe it's time to ship him back...

SynthiaRose said:

You know he could get it.

... in five different positions.

flash biceps. panties disintegrate.

[img:$uid]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/Purplemistress/arnold.jpg[/img:$uid]

I'm sorry but.......no.

KidaDynamite said:

SynthiaRose said:

You know he could get it.

... in five different positions.

flash biceps. panties disintegrate.

[img:$uid]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/Purplemistress/arnold.jpg[/img:$uid]

I'm sorry but.......no.

ugh, that's gross

VanDamme still looks good

JoeTyler said:

KidaDynamite said:

[img:$uid]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/Purplemistress/arnold.jpg[/img:$uid]

I'm sorry but.......no.

ugh, that's gross

VanDamme still looks good

Yeah, VanDamme looks more in shape. Thank goodness.

JoeTyler said:

KidaDynamite said:

[img:$uid]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/Purplemistress/arnold.jpg[/img:$uid]

I'm sorry but.......no.

ugh, that's gross

VanDamme still looks good

Arnie ate too much Jell-O...

nursev said:

Stymie said:

tinaz said: i agree. She knew it was about to go public and didn't want to be humiliated by letting the world know she stayed with a cheater.

i think it was the kid. that's what was staring her in the face. i'm guessing it was (relatively) easy to put his other affairs out her mind b/c the women weren't in her house, and 'evidence' in the form of a kid wasn't staring her in the face. but this time it was.

the cheating was bad, but the fact that he didn't even have the decency to wear a condom to prevent that from happening is worse.

SynthiaRose said:

good god. poor maria. imagine waiting until the last day of arnold's term as governor, then arranging for a visit to a counselor, then asking your HUSBAND a question such as "honey, were you banging the housekeeper in my bed behind my back? is that your son?"!!!! sheesh. things must have been quite odd between them... who could live like that??

I do sympathise with Maria(and her family) but that sympathy only goes so far. There's been rumors about Arnold being a philander and sexual molester of women for a long time now. Its hard to believe that she didn't have any suspicions about his cheating nature in the 8 or 9 years prior to their marriage. My thoughts on the whole cheating situation is what did she expect, she laid down with a known(or should have been known)dog and she caught fleas. She most definitely didn't deserve what he did to her though.

Not only has Arnold been accused of being a womanizer, he's also been accused of being a racist. Some of his former bodybuilding peers have made allegations that he used the n word(nigger) in the past.

I do enjoy Arnold's movies but on a personal level i think the guy's misogynistic, a megalomaniac and is probably a closet racist.

KidaDynamite said:

SynthiaRose said:

You know he could get it.

... in five different positions.

flash biceps. panties disintegrate.

[img:$uid]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/Purplemistress/arnold.jpg[/img:$uid]

I'm sorry but.......no.

I concede defeat.

(but, I'm sure there ARE msucles under there somewhere.)

I didn't see the full interview but just some snippets. Man really is full of himself isn't he? His attitude is almost like "well she's a Kennedy, shouldn't she had expected this?"

SynthiaRose said:

Typical Leo.

First of all, a pause for this incredibly masculine physical spectacle.

Now, back to reality. He is incredibly self-centered and unable to grasp the amount of pain he caused his wife and children. He understands it mentally but clearly doesn't feel it deep in his soul and that's why he comes off so cavalierly. He just doesn't get it.

Arnold's goal in life is to have fun and be happy, and he clearly is not going to let devastating Maria interfere with those plans.

Yes, he is charming. He is commanding. He is lovable. And he probably can do and conquer anything he set his mind to -- but my gosh, I can't stand people who have no sense of loyalty or responsibility. I mean, there's even loyalty among theives right?

Arnie has been a personal hero of mine for a long time and I adored the Leo-Scorpio relationship between him and Maria. I feel torn about how much to despise him now. Clearly, he's done some amazing and inspiring things...

I know there's been debate today about how much Maria knew and put up with. So, her image is tattered as well. I do think women make concessions for very dynamic men. And this is a problem because if you keep negotiating your self-respect ... after a while you have nothing left. Whatever backlash Maria suffers at least she has learned that lesson.

[Edited 10/1/12 16:17pm]

A left-brained thinker. Most men are, to my understanding

btw, I wonder if America knows that their Commander-in-Chief is a Leo, too

purplethunder3121 said:

Serious said:

He is not. He has always been ugly and annoying IMO. Thank God he immigrated to the USA !

Gee, thanks! Maybe it's time to ship him back...

Ship him back?

purplethunder3121 said:

Serious said:

He is not. He has always been ugly and annoying IMO. Thank God he immigrated to the USA !

Gee, thanks! Maybe it's time to ship him back...

No you have to keep him !

Stymie said:

SynthiaRose said:

You know he could get it.

... in five different positions.

flash biceps. panties disintegrate.

I actually never found him physically attractive. Not a fan of musclemen. Toned or slim, yeah.

JoeyC said:

I do sympathise with Maria(and her family) but that sympathy only goes so far. There's been rumors about Arnold being a philander and sexual molester of women for a long time now. Its hard to believe that she didn't have any suspicions about his cheating nature in the 8 or 9 years prior to their marriage. My thoughts on the whole cheating situation is what did she expect, she laid down with a known(or should have been known)dog and she caught fleas. She most definitely didn't deserve what he did to her though.

Not only has Arnold been accused of being a womanizer, he's also been accused of being a racist. Some of his former bodybuilding peers have made allegations that he used the n word(nigger) in the past.

I do enjoy Arnold's movies but on a personal level i think the guy's misogynistic, a megalomaniac and is probably a closet racist.

I was not surprised at all that he cheated on her. The poor woman should have stayed away from him.

And I would not be surpriesed if he is a racist considering his family background.

Serious said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Gee, thanks! Maybe it's time to ship him back...

No you have to keep him !

luv4u said:

I've lost all respect for Arnie and Tom Cruise

I'm sure they will be heartbroken when they hear about it.

Anyway, I don't know anything about this man's life nor do I care to ever know.

I just wanted to mention that he is and always was a horribly unattractive man to me. Never understood how anyone thought he was even somewhat attractive.

SynthiaRose said:

Typical Leo.

First of all, a pause for this incredibly masculine physical spectacle.

Now, back to reality. He is incredibly self-centered and unable to grasp the amount of pain he caused his wife and children. He understands it mentally but clearly doesn't feel it deep in his soul and that's why he comes off so cavalierly. He just doesn't get it.

Arnold's goal in life is to have fun and be happy, and he clearly is not going to let devastating Maria interfere with those plans.

Yes, he is charming. He is commanding. He is lovable. And he probably can do and conquer anything he set his mind to -- but my gosh, I can't stand people who have no sense of loyalty or responsibility. I mean, there's even loyalty among theives right?

Arnie has been a personal hero of mine for a long time and I adored the Leo-Scorpio relationship between him and Maria. I feel torn about how much to despise him now. Clearly, he's done some amazing and inspiring things...

I know there's been debate today about how much Maria knew and put up with. So, her image is tattered as well. I do think women make concessions for very dynamic men. And this is a problem because if you keep negotiating your self-respect ... after a while you have nothing left. Whatever backlash Maria suffers at least she has learned that lesson.

[Edited 10/1/12 16:17pm]

You & I being fellow Scorpions, then looking at your bolded statements, could you really think she would make concessions for her husbands cheating...you know we abhor disloyalty, and most certainly are not the "sharing kind"; behavior like that is a good way to get yourself stung...hard and deep.

Ottensen said:

SynthiaRose said:

Typical Leo.

First of all, a pause for this incredibly masculine physical spectacle.

Now, back to reality. He is incredibly self-centered and unable to grasp the amount of pain he caused his wife and children. He understands it mentally but clearly doesn't feel it deep in his soul and that's why he comes off so cavalierly. He just doesn't get it.

Arnold's goal in life is to have fun and be happy, and he clearly is not going to let devastating Maria interfere with those plans.

Yes, he is charming. He is commanding. He is lovable. And he probably can do and conquer anything he set his mind to -- but my gosh, I can't stand people who have no sense of loyalty or responsibility. I mean, there's even loyalty among theives right?

Arnie has been a personal hero of mine for a long time and I adored the Leo-Scorpio relationship between him and Maria. I feel torn about how much to despise him now. Clearly, he's done some amazing and inspiring things...

I know there's been debate today about how much Maria knew and put up with. So, her image is tattered as well. I do think women make concessions for very dynamic men. And this is a problem because if you keep negotiating your self-respect ... after a while you have nothing left. Whatever backlash Maria suffers at least she has learned that lesson.

[Edited 10/1/12 16:17pm]

You & I being fellow Scorpions, then looking at your bolded statements, could you really think she would make concessions for her husbands cheating...you know we abhor disloyalty, and most certainly are not the "sharing kind"; behavior like that is a good way to get yourself stung...hard and deep.

I totally agree with what you're suggesting about cheating being a cardinal sin in the eyes of Scorps. But at the same time if they (we) really love someone and have developed a power bond in the relationship, I think Scorpio women feeel they can meet the challenge of transforming the man into his higher nature. I mean, Scorpios more than anything understand the varied types of sex and intimacy -- and in no way to I believe Arnold's trysts were anything substantial or intimate...or that any of those women were any sort of rival to Maria.

And again -- I'm not talking about making concessions or negotiations for just any random men. Scorpios like to hunt big prey. They like challenging men, often Alpha men. And I do think Leos in particular are larger than life (well, the ones I've dated.)

Here's what I wrote on another board several years ago in response to Scorpio Demi Moore staying with Ashton who cheated several times:

"I’ve heard rumors that Arnie has strayed as well.

But POWER COUPLES like these don’t break up over annoyances like sex outside of marriage.

Marriage ideally for Scorpio is more than sex. It is a meeting of the minds, of two independent powers, it is a clash of wills that breaks you and heals you simulatneaously.

You can’t get that with just anyone, but I think Leos & Scorps can achieve that. And no tryst can take it away. That’s why Hillary and Bill are still together. And why Arnold and Maria are.

Bill would never leave HIllary because any other woman, no matter how sexy, would simply be LESS.

Now, of course, Scorpio Maria has now gone, so she did reach her breaking point -- public disrespect is even harder to overcome than the cheating. And Demi reached hers as well, but clearly she seemed like she was willing to sacrifice if she could get Ashton to stay.

I think Scorpios are possessive and protective of the relationships they build and do not throw them away easily. They will fight for them. Also, there's the years of emotional entanglement -- and I have read that Maria has some sort of emotional soul tie to Arnold -- well, the article suggested he had an "emotional hold" over herm but I don't like that wording. Deep emotional intimacy and history are like Scorpio super glue.

I'm not sure I see a woman staying as a sign of weakness, necessarily -- unless the cheating keeps happening. I understand the desire to fight to keep what you built and to elevate your man.

SynthiaRose said:

KidaDynamite said:

[img:$uid]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/Purplemistress/arnold.jpg[/img:$uid]

I'm sorry but.......no.

I concede defeat.

(but, I'm sure there ARE msucles under there somewhere.)

OK, dang it! I'm supporting Arnold!

I saw him on "The Daily Show" and he was contrite. So get off his back!

And to you trolls posting those pictures - let's see what YOU look like when you're 65!

(I do not know if I will still have a Summer of Big Arms by then, but I can tell you that at age 53, I look much closer to young Arnold than old Arnold!)

RodeoSchro said:

OK, dang it! I'm supporting Arnold!

I saw him on "The Daily Show" and he was contrite. So get off his back!

And to you trolls posting those pictures - let's see what YOU look like when you're 65!

(I do not know if I will still have a Summer of Big Arms by then, but I can tell you that at age 53, I look much closer to young Arnold than old Arnold!)

PROOOOOF!!!! You said you were getting fit a while back but you didn't say you were getting

Ahhnold-ized

Ottensen said:

RodeoSchro said:

OK, dang it! I'm supporting Arnold!

I saw him on "The Daily Show" and he was contrite. So get off his back!

And to you trolls posting those pictures - let's see what YOU look like when you're 65!

(I do not know if I will still have a Summer of Big Arms by then, but I can tell you that at age 53, I look much closer to young Arnold than old Arnold!)

PROOOOOF!!!! You said you were getting fit a while back but you didn't say you were getting

Ahhnold-ized

It's coming. I just need to coordinate a time at the gym with my daughter, so she can take the videos and the pictures.

We're going to need a new emoticon on this here board! :muscles: