debbiedean2 said:

That's nothing, my friend received an email and they told her not to ever apply with their company again!

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debbiedean2 said:

That's nothing, my friend received an email and they told her not to ever apply with their company again!

adorecream, it's not mean at all.. at least they bothered to inform u! as 4 shredding the cv, be thankful that your personnal details aren't knocking about 4 any old tom/dick/harry to look at.

good luck with getting a job x

Adorecream said:

I was mainly attacking it from the use of theword shredding. In a way it has let me down gently and indicates I probably got close to the interview stage. I also found out its main rival had laid off several staff as its going through hard times. People are not buying music as much anymore thanks to itunes and both of these shops charge high prices of $37.95 for a new release CD, where the Warehouse (Our Walmart) sells new releases at 24.95 tops.

Still I found the email braggy and slightly malicious, shred is not a nice word to use unless your are talking about pounds or vegetables.

I feel sorry for the poor person who got their email on to spambot lists, that would be banned here, we can not control spam from overseas, but kiwi based companies are banned from spamming without permission.

What word would you choose instead to describe what they did with your CV? "Threw away" doesn't relay the fact that the information on the CV is no longer readable; "destroy" seems a bit excessive. It's extremely common to say you "shredded" files or documents. There is absolutely nothing malicious about using that word in that context.

jone70 said:

Adorecream said:

I was mainly attacking it from the use of theword shredding. In a way it has let me down gently and indicates I probably got close to the interview stage. I also found out its main rival had laid off several staff as its going through hard times. People are not buying music as much anymore thanks to itunes and both of these shops charge high prices of $37.95 for a new release CD, where the Warehouse (Our Walmart) sells new releases at 24.95 tops.

Still I found the email braggy and slightly malicious, shred is not a nice word to use unless your are talking about pounds or vegetables.

I feel sorry for the poor person who got their email on to spambot lists, that would be banned here, we can not control spam from overseas, but kiwi based companies are banned from spamming without permission.

What word would you choose instead to describe what they did with your CV? "Threw away" doesn't relay the fact that the information on the CV is no longer readable; "destroy" seems a bit excessive. It's extremely common to say you "shredded" files or documents. There is absolutely nothing malicious about using that word in that context.

I guess it's better than saying "We used your CV as a toilet paper to wipe our ass , cause with over 140 applications it's good for ecology.

Sounds like a pretty considerate letter to me. If you wrote them an angry message back, I feel sorry for the person that received it, as they were doing their job pretty well. I'd definitely hire them!

debbiedean2 said:

That's nothing, my friend received an email and they told her not to ever apply with their company again!

i think you just proved why you didn't get the job

jone70 said:

OzlemUcucu said:

RicoN said:

i think you just proved why you didn't get the job

Seriously. 36 years old - and this is how s/he behaves?

Genesia said:

RicoN said:

i think you just proved why you didn't get the job

Seriously. 36 years old - and this is how s/he behaves?

He (Seriously how many women do you know called Kevin?)

And how do I behave, because you know me so well, perhaps I need your advice.

The truth of the matter is I applied for this job, mostly as I knew I would be very capable at it and would hope it would lead on to better things, they wanted a part time sales assistant and I offered them 10 years retail experience, cash handling, security skills and vetting and staff supervision. I just thought having those skills would mean at least they could mail the CV back to me or at least say, "We have disposed of your CV to protect your privacy" or better yet "We have kept your CV on file in case any other opportunities may arise"

If that is too much or too high and mighty for your liking, I sincerely apologise from the bottom of my heart. Seriously what is up with you guys. All my Kiwi and Aussie mates think the letter is offensive in its use of the word "Shredded", yet I have had universal condemnation from you guys.

My guess is it must be an American custom to kick a person when they are down.

[Edited 9/10/12 19:51pm]

Adorecream said:

Genesia said:

Seriously. 36 years old - and this is how s/he behaves?

He (Seriously how many women do you know called Kevin?)

And how do I behave, because you know me so well, perhaps I need your advice.

The truth of the matter is I applied for this job, mostly as I knew I would be very capable at it and would hope it would lead on to better things, they wanted a part time sales assistant and I offered them 10 years retail experience, cash handling, security skills and vetting and staff supervision. I just thought having those skills would mean at least they could mail the CV back to me or at least say, "We have disposed of your CV to protect your privacy" or better yet "We have kept your CV on file in case any other opportunities may arise"

If that is too much or too high and mighty for your liking, I sincerely apologise from the bottom of my heart. Seriously what is up with you guys. All my Kiwi and Aussie mates think the letter is offensive in its use of the word "Shredded", yet I have had universal condemnation from you guys.

My guess is it must be an American custom to kick a person when they are down.

[Edited 9/10/12 19:51pm]

and apparently the Hiring Manager thought otherwise...

and apparently you're taking extraordinary offense at something that AT LEAST 20 people find categorically no offense in whatsoever...

we're talkin 20 to 1...

does the word "shred/ing/ded" have some other connotation down in Oz?? I mean, your reaction has us all stumped and I know some here have expressed different speculations as to why, but it's only because it's just so bizarre!

Now you say that all your mates feel the same way and in our eyes it just get weirder and weirder!

Best of luck...

RenHoek said:

Adorecream said:

He (Seriously how many women do you know called Kevin?)

And how do I behave, because you know me so well, perhaps I need your advice.

The truth of the matter is I applied for this job, mostly as I knew I would be very capable at it and would hope it would lead on to better things, they wanted a part time sales assistant and I offered them 10 years retail experience, cash handling, security skills and vetting and staff supervision. I just thought having those skills would mean at least they could mail the CV back to me or at least say, "We have disposed of your CV to protect your privacy" or better yet "We have kept your CV on file in case any other opportunities may arise"

If that is too much or too high and mighty for your liking, I sincerely apologise from the bottom of my heart. Seriously what is up with you guys. All my Kiwi and Aussie mates think the letter is offensive in its use of the word "Shredded", yet I have had universal condemnation from you guys.

My guess is it must be an American custom to kick a person when they are down.

[Edited 9/10/12 19:51pm]

and apparently the Hiring Manager thought otherwise...

and apparently you're taking extraordinary offense at something that AT LEAST 20 people find categorically no offense in whatsoever...

we're talkin 20 to 1...

does the word "shred/ing/ded" have some other connotation down in Oz?? I mean, your reaction has us all stumped and I know some here have expressed different speculations as to why, but it's only because it's just so bizarre!

Now you say that all your mates feel the same way and in our eyes it just get weirder and weirder!

Best of luck...

I'm from NZ. Never heard of the word being used for anything other than desposing of confidential documents.

Kia ora Adore, I think you're overreacting in a big way mate. If I was you I'd think nothing of it and get on with the next thing. There's no point in getting wound up on such a normal event, you're only negatively affecting your own confidence by doing that. All the best though!

nd33 said:

ZombieKitten said:

jone70 said:

Adorecream said:

I was mainly attacking it from the use of theword shredding. In a way it has let me down gently and indicates I probably got close to the interview stage. I also found out its main rival had laid off several staff as its going through hard times. People are not buying music as much anymore thanks to itunes and both of these shops charge high prices of $37.95 for a new release CD, where the Warehouse (Our Walmart) sells new releases at 24.95 tops.

Still I found the email braggy and slightly malicious, shred is not a nice word to use unless your are talking about pounds or vegetables.

I feel sorry for the poor person who got their email on to spambot lists, that would be banned here, we can not control spam from overseas, but kiwi based companies are banned from spamming without permission.

What word would you choose instead to describe what they did with your CV? "Threw away" doesn't relay the fact that the information on the CV is no longer readable; "destroy" seems a bit excessive. It's extremely common to say you "shredded" files or documents. There is absolutely nothing malicious about using that word in that context.

Shredders are called shredders because they shred

BobGeorge909 said:

ZombieKitten said:

Shredders are called shredders because they shred

Some of the fight mutated shellbacks who happen to be experts in ancient Asian fighting skills and pizza consumption. All the while, protogés of an ageing, giant rat.

cowabunga dude

imo, that is not the meanest rejection letter ever. imo, it's actually pretty nice. destroying personal data from job applicants is necessary to protect all parties from ID theft

Adorecream said:

Genesia said:

Seriously. 36 years old - and this is how s/he behaves?

He (Seriously how many women do you know called Kevin?)

And how do I behave, because you know me so well, perhaps I need your advice.

The truth of the matter is I applied for this job, mostly as I knew I would be very capable at it and would hope it would lead on to better things, they wanted a part time sales assistant and I offered them 10 years retail experience, cash handling, security skills and vetting and staff supervision. I just thought having those skills would mean at least they could mail the CV back to me or at least say, "We have disposed of your CV to protect your privacy" or better yet "We have kept your CV on file in case any other opportunities may arise"

If that is too much or too high and mighty for your liking, I sincerely apologise from the bottom of my heart. Seriously what is up with you guys. All my Kiwi and Aussie mates think the letter is offensive in its use of the word "Shredded", yet I have had universal condemnation from you guys.

My guess is it must be an American custom to kick a person when they are down.

[Edited 9/10/12 19:51pm]

I think I see the problem now.

How the heck am I supposed to know your name is Kevin? As far as I'm concerned, your name is "Adorecream" - which is a pretty feminine one, at that. You're applying for a job in retail. Most of the people who work in retail are...what? Women. And frankly, your whiny attitude and writing style say, "high school or college girl," to me. Definitely not "36-year-old man."

Trust me - employers can sense when someone is not a good fit for their organization. And in a situation in which they can take their pick from 140+ applicants, they can afford to be very choosy.

Your friends are humoring you because you're making a big damn deal out of nothing. Behind your back, they're probably saying, "Geez, dude - get a grip."

You didn't get the job. They told you exactly why. And the news was delivered professionally. Nobody ever returns a resume. (They might - might - return a portfolio. But only if you include a return envelope with the correct postage.)

Move on.

kewlschool said:

Yeah, shredding it was a way of saying that your info would not be out there for others to see.

A job hunt is a confidential enterprise, and people don't want their current employers to know. So they were setting your mind at ease.

They did not mean "We are shredding this so that the world is rid of such an abomination"

THIS is shredding

Genesia said:

Adorecream said:

He (Seriously how many women do you know called Kevin?)

[...]

I think I see the problem now.

How the heck am I supposed to know your name is Kevin?

hmm let's see... maybe by reading that damn letter which this thread is all about??!?!? or at least the first line?? Duh!

How silly was I to think that this thread would be over after about 10 responses.

NDRU said:

Adorecream said:

I just thought having those skills would mean at least they could mail the CV back to me

I have never heard of a company mailing back one's resume. Portfolio, maybe, if, like Genesia said, you included an envelope with return postage. Think about it this way: you even said yourself there is a recession. I don't know how much it costs to mail a letter where you are, but in the US it's $.45. $.45 x 140 resumes = $63, not to mention the cost of the staff time and envelopes. Just for that one position. Now imagine if there are 2-3 positions open. The company could easily spend hundreds of dollars returning resumes to people. That doesn't make financial sense. The time and money would be better spent mailing ads to potential customers, wouldn't you agree? In addition, shredding costs much less and is safer (what if your resume gets lost in the mail?). For example, at my office we can pay a company $75 to come pick up 20 bankers boxes full of files to shred.

I understand your frustration about not getting called back for an interview for a job that you seemed to be well qualified for. It happens all the time, to all kinds of people. The best thing to do is to try to apply what you've learned from this experience. What you've learned:

1. when a potential employer says they've shredded your CV, it is not meant as a personal insult.

2. the best way to dispose of documents containing personal information in a professional setting is to shred them.

Adorecream said:

I was mainly attacking it from the use of theword shredding. In a way it has let me down gently and indicates I probably got close to the interview stage. I also found out its main rival had laid off several staff as its going through hard times. People are not buying music as much anymore thanks to itunes and both of these shops charge high prices of $37.95 for a new release CD, where the Warehouse (Our Walmart) sells new releases at 24.95 tops.

Still I found the email braggy and slightly malicious, shred is not a nice word to use unless your are talking about pounds or vegetables.

I feel sorry for the poor person who got their email on to spambot lists, that would be banned here, we can not control spam from overseas, but kiwi based companies are banned from spamming without permission.

GOOD LORD!!!!