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Thread started 08/18/12 10:01am

babynoz

A Ho's Place?

So I was sitting in the salon waiting to get my "hurr" did, looking through old magazines as usual when I ran across an ad for this book...

A Ho Needs To Stay In A Ho's Place

At first I was... eek

After reading the blurb, I was... lol

Now I gotta admit, I'm kinda curious.

Has a ho ever called your house playing on the phone? Or left her underwear, lip gloss or hair pin in your home to let you know that she had been there? Has a ho sent you a letter, text or an email? Has a ho ever keyed your car or slashed your tires? If so, this book is for HER! Help a ho out and send her a copy of this book! Now I know what you re thinking and you re probably saying Forget dat ho! but real talk...Help a Ho Out, you may be saving someone s life!!!

Anybody else curious?

http://www.amazon.com/Ho-...+hos+place

Author's website...

http://stayinyourplace.com/

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #1 posted 08/18/12 10:57am

RicoN

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what century is this?

Hamburger, Hot Dog, Root Beer, Pussy
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Reply #2 posted 08/18/12 11:03am

free2bfreeda

okay, er'body knows i have 2 c 4 myself so:

A Ho Needs 2 Stay In A Ho's Placei looked it up for sake of posting the cover and posting a review or two. not sure if i want to buy it, but maybe i will for convo sake. [52 pages is a quick read]

synopsis:

here's 2 reader's reviews:

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What can I say that the title doesn't already say? "A Ho Needs 2 Stay in Her Place" is an extremely quick and easy read. It's comical yet sad that this issue even needs to be addressed, but it is what it is. Tonja Ayers lends a helping hand in this self help/how to guide, if you will. She first offers the four roles or positions that women may play in men's lives - wifey, boo, b*tch, and ho. She next defines the perimeters and expectations of each role with emphasis on the need to stay in one's place.

"A Ho Needs 2 Stay in Her Place" is definitely a conversation piece. While entertaining, I would like to believe such books aren't warranted.

**Though up for debate as to which is correct since the Don Imus statement, the plural form of ho should either be hoes or hos, not ho's as used repeatedly in this book. Ho's indicates possession.**

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First of all I have to say I just stopped laughing and rolling on the floor. But seriously thought this book was awesome!! I have not read a book that teaches you the do’s and don’ts and was so on point with the knowledge. This book is certified gold. Now I can relate to knowing who is a ho or not but when Tonya Ayers broke it down I was shell shocked. I did not know that so many labels were out there. A woman is either a wifey, boo, bitch, or ho. With each title the author gives the definition and example. It’s like going to charm school. I must say this is a must read. The book isn’t long so ladies go get this book and your girls and determine if there is a ho amongst you. Guys go get this book and possibly help your self out. I am so excited about people reading this one. My only thing is it’s to short. Although there are websites listed in the back of the book for you to state your opinions and experiences. Don’t wait pass this book on.

only thing i wish the cover of the book was a bit more diverse.

“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #3 posted 08/18/12 11:14am

nammie

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Damn they're selling t-shirts too LOL lol

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Reply #4 posted 08/18/12 11:18am

KingBAD

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the killin part is only whoes (ho's) are gonna get insulted

about a book that's writen to help them lol

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
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STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE...
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Reply #5 posted 08/18/12 11:19am

Abdul

KingBAD said:

the killin part is only whoes (ho's) are gonna get insulted

about a book that's writen to help them lol

So true, LMAO!!!

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Reply #6 posted 08/18/12 11:21am

babynoz

Thanks freeda...at first I was taken aback by the title but it seems like a tongue in cheek thing.

It's only ten bucks so I may check it out...it looks amusing.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #7 posted 08/18/12 11:23am

Stymie

I know it's meant as a joke but I'll e damned if soe women need to be asking the man instead of talking about the woman.
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Reply #8 posted 08/18/12 12:18pm

NDRU

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Was this written by Velvet Jones?

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Reply #9 posted 08/18/12 12:36pm

babynoz

Stymie said:

I know it's meant as a joke but I'll e damned if soe women need to be asking the man instead of talking about the woman.

I hear ya Sis but you know that ain't what women do...they go after each other more often than not.

True story. I once had a case where one girl was getting a restraining order against the other because of some thug she was dating. Among other things, the girl had her electricity turned off and actually sent a hearse from the funeral home to pick her up. Both of these ladies were in college for cryin' out loud! eek

Here's a excerpt of the author answering questions about why she wrote the book...

Hello Good People,

I am the author of the book "A Ho Needs 2 Stay in a Ho's Place and I know everyone has heard the old saying "Don't judge a book by its cover" however its sounds like that exactly what most of you did. Go to www.stayinyourplace. com to find out what the book is really about.

Many women have relationships with married men or men in relationships and "act out" when things don't go their way. Why is that? You knew he wasn't your man to begin with? Therefore, why call his wife? Key his car? Stalk his children? etc. If you decided to be his ho or allow yourself to be hoed then why get out of pocket? Stay in your place.

I wrote the book because I own a shoe store and soooo many of my female customers have told me stories about the 'other' woman contacting and harassing them however many more have bragged about breaking up or causing drama in another woman's relationship as if its cute or the thing to do. Many have asked my opinion hence motivating me to write it down. Again read the book and then give a true and honest opinion.

Tonja

It's an interesting topic and I agree that too many women give guys a pass by allowing themselves to be placed in certain positions.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #10 posted 08/18/12 12:36pm

babynoz

NDRU said:

Was this written by Velvet Jones?

biggrin

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #11 posted 08/18/12 12:52pm

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Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the only "hoes" pictured are black?

Dont get me wrong...I know there are plenty of black hoes out there, but in my experience, there are plenty of hoes in all sizes, shapes and colors.

And yes...they need to learn their place.

blunt music She has robes and she has monkeys, lazy diamond studded flunkies.... music blunt
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Reply #12 posted 08/18/12 1:14pm

free2bfreeda

StonedImmaculate said:

Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the only "hoes" pictured are black?

Dont get me wrong...I know there are plenty of black hoes out there, but in my experience, there are plenty of hoes in all sizes, shapes and colors.

And yes...they need to learn their place.

in know, huh. nod

beyonce in 'obsession' movie

now, you know the moon must be in the third house and mars must be align with venus, cause i'm in one of my subtle radical moods 2day.

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[Edited 8/18/12 14:38pm]

“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #13 posted 08/18/12 1:39pm

Abdul

StonedImmaculate said:

Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the only "hoes" pictured are black?

Dont get me wrong...I know there are plenty of black hoes out there, but in my experience, there are plenty of hoes in all sizes, shapes and colors

You got that right

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Reply #14 posted 08/18/12 1:52pm

babynoz

StonedImmaculate said:

Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the only "hoes" pictured are black?

Dont get me wrong...I know there are plenty of black hoes out there, but in my experience, there are plenty of hoes in all sizes, shapes and colors.

And yes...they need to learn their place.

I'm not sure how much thought went into the book cover design but that is an interesting observation.

I would certainly want my cover to design to attract the broadest possible audience but some authors go for a niche market.

I don't think the cover was meant to imply that only black women are called hos but it can sure be interpreted that way.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #15 posted 08/18/12 2:36pm

NDRU

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StonedImmaculate said:

Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the only "hoes" pictured are black?

Dont get me wrong...I know there are plenty of black hoes out there, but in my experience, there are plenty of hoes in all sizes, shapes and colors.

And yes...they need to learn their place.

Is that the un-PC part of the book? lol

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Reply #16 posted 08/18/12 4:37pm

OzlemUcucu

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tHE girl on the far left does not look like a black girl to me. You all need your eyes checked, and you all sound like damn rascits too. cool

Prince I will always miss and love U.
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Reply #17 posted 08/18/12 4:39pm

OzlemUcucu

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Abdul said:

StonedImmaculate said:

Am I the only one bothered by the fact that the only "hoes" pictured are black?

Dont get me wrong...I know there are plenty of black hoes out there, but in my experience, there are plenty of hoes in all sizes, shapes and colors

You got that right

Wow, she shoulda used something to push them up. confused

Prince I will always miss and love U.
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Reply #18 posted 08/18/12 5:26pm

JustErin

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Boy, some women sure hate each other.

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Reply #19 posted 08/18/12 7:02pm

babynoz

JustErin said:

Boy, some women sure hate each other.

Perhaps, but that answer is too easy...lol

Let's look at what the author is saying for a minute,

Many women have relationships with married men or men in relationships and "act out" when things don't go their way. Why is that? You knew he wasn't your man to begin with? Therefore, why call his wife? Key his car? Stalk his children? etc. If you decided to be his ho or allow yourself to be hoed then why get out of pocket? Stay in your place.

Is she making a valid point or not? Many of us know a woman who has created this type of drama or been the victim of it even if we haven't had the experience ourselves.

So what is the source of this hate, as you call it? Are women lashing out at each other rather than the man because neither one of them want to lose him? What makes women go to such lengths to keep a man even if he isn't their man to begin with?

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #20 posted 08/18/12 8:47pm

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If a women is willing to 'break the moral conduct rule' and sleep with somebody else's guy for her own personal reasons they why would she care about any other 'rules'?

Like there are levels of whoredom? One can be a "good" ho vs. a "bad" ho?

A legitamate ho... who does the 'right' thing? A ho who knows her place? falloff

Why can we just focus on the guy not being a ho and this wouldn't be a problem.

disbelief lol

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Reply #21 posted 08/18/12 8:59pm

angel345

Ho! Ho! Ho!

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Reply #22 posted 08/18/12 9:12pm

babynoz

paintedlady said:

If a women is willing to 'break the moral conduct rule' and sleep with somebody else's guy for her own personal reasons they why would she care about any other 'rules'?

Like there are levels of whoredom? One can be a "good" ho vs. a "bad" ho?

A legitamate ho... who does the 'right' thing? A ho who knows her place? falloff

Why can we just focus on the guy not being a ho and this wouldn't be a problem.

disbelief lol

Dammit, what took you so long...I was waiting for ya... biggrin

I dunno, maybe there are levels of whoredom...you have everything from escorts to call girls to streetwalkers and chickenheads, lol

But back on topic, we know what a guy "should" do but good luck with that, ya know. Of course, in any cheating scenario both cheaters are responsible but I'm wondering if more women nowadays are willing to be the side piece because good guys seem harder to come by? I have heard several women say they would rather share with wifey than be alone. I don't know if it's something new or just that the jump offs are more bold nowadays as the author suggests?

I'm just thinking out loud...help me out Sis, lol

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #23 posted 08/18/12 9:28pm

ThisOne

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Ho! Ho! Ho!

falloff

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Reply #24 posted 08/18/12 9:36pm

paintedlady

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babynoz said:

paintedlady said:

If a women is willing to 'break the moral conduct rule' and sleep with somebody else's guy for her own personal reasons they why would she care about any other 'rules'?

Like there are levels of whoredom? One can be a "good" ho vs. a "bad" ho?

A legitamate ho... who does the 'right' thing? A ho who knows her place? falloff

Why can we just focus on the guy not being a ho and this wouldn't be a problem.

disbelief lol

Dammit, what took you so long...I was waiting for ya... biggrin

I dunno, maybe there are levels of whoredom...you have everything from escorts to call girls to streetwalkers and chickenheads, lol

But back on topic, we know what a guy "should" do but good luck with that, ya know. Of course, in any cheating scenario both cheaters are responsible but I'm wondering if more women nowadays are willing to be the side piece because good guys seem harder to come by? I have heard several women say they would rather share with wifey than be alone. I don't know if it's something new or just that the jump offs are more bold nowadays as the author suggests?

I'm just thinking out loud...help me out Sis, lol

All I know is that most broke heffas I know are willing to scout out men who are finacially secure and barter their bj skills for upgrading their furnishings.

I think this happens in an enviornment that tends to have a lower male-female ratio.

If women greatly outnumber the available men... then most men can opt to have a side piece if the wife is keeping her legs shut if she doesn't like her hubby's behavior.

Instead of hubby compromising with his wife, he'll just sleep with his lonely co-worker or that chick at the bar wearing the really short skirt and do things for his wife out of guilt instead.

Meanwhile, if the sex with the jumpoff is better than the sex he has with his wife, then the jumpoff/ho/mistress will barter her sex for his gifts or money.

I was actaully encouraged to date a married man by several women (married women included) who owned a seedy nightclub, because they said I didn't have a husband so I should be a mistress in order to get things I need for my children.

Crazy! eek

I didn't date him and turned down all his advances.

I still ended up dating a married men who is legally separated... but still married.

sigh Most men are taken after 40. Divorcees are hard to find.

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Reply #25 posted 08/18/12 10:42pm

babynoz

paintedlady said:

babynoz said:

Dammit, what took you so long...I was waiting for ya... biggrin

I dunno, maybe there are levels of whoredom...you have everything from escorts to call girls to streetwalkers and chickenheads, lol

But back on topic, we know what a guy "should" do but good luck with that, ya know. Of course, in any cheating scenario both cheaters are responsible but I'm wondering if more women nowadays are willing to be the side piece because good guys seem harder to come by? I have heard several women say they would rather share with wifey than be alone. I don't know if it's something new or just that the jump offs are more bold nowadays as the author suggests?

I'm just thinking out loud...help me out Sis, lol

All I know is that most broke heffas I know are willing to scout out men who are finacially secure and barter their bj skills for upgrading their furnishings.

I think this happens in an enviornment that tends to have a lower male-female ratio.

If women greatly outnumber the available men... then most men can opt to have a side piece if the wife is keeping her legs shut if she doesn't like her hubby's behavior.

Instead of hubby compromising with his wife, he'll just sleep with his lonely co-worker or that chick at the bar wearing the really short skirt and do things for his wife out of guilt instead.

Meanwhile, if the sex with the jumpoff is better than the sex he has with his wife, then the jumpoff/ho/mistress will barter her sex for his gifts or money.

I was actaully encouraged to date a married man by several women (married women included) who owned a seedy nightclub, because they said I didn't have a husband so I should be a mistress in order to get things I need for my children.

Crazy! eek

I didn't date him and turned down all his advances.

I still ended up dating a married men who is legally separated... but still married.

sigh Most men are taken after 40. Divorcees are hard to find.

See, I knew you wouldn't fail me, lol

We know perfectly well that there are women out there who do exactly those things that the author talks about. I dunno why people tryna be all coy about it. lol

I have also seen women do the exact same thing you just described, so while we know dude has an agenda, quite often, so does his side-piece.

I'm guessing that's what the author meant by saying a ho should stay in a ho's place because I have also talked to several married women who say that as long as their man doesn't disrespect his home or have his isht in their face they are willing to look the other way.

She is talking about women who allow themselves to be placed in certain situations and their deluded expectations.

I swear, I knew a girl who had a man for almost every bill she had...rent, car note, etc, etc. She did stay in her place though. Never called his house or did anything shady and she made out okay I guess.

But I'm like you...I believe in God bless the child who got his (or her) own.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #26 posted 08/18/12 11:13pm

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babynoz said:

paintedlady said:

All I know is that most broke heffas I know are willing to scout out men who are finacially secure and barter their bj skills for upgrading their furnishings.

I think this happens in an enviornment that tends to have a lower male-female ratio.

If women greatly outnumber the available men... then most men can opt to have a side piece if the wife is keeping her legs shut if she doesn't like her hubby's behavior.

Instead of hubby compromising with his wife, he'll just sleep with his lonely co-worker or that chick at the bar wearing the really short skirt and do things for his wife out of guilt instead.

Meanwhile, if the sex with the jumpoff is better than the sex he has with his wife, then the jumpoff/ho/mistress will barter her sex for his gifts or money.

I was actaully encouraged to date a married man by several women (married women included) who owned a seedy nightclub, because they said I didn't have a husband so I should be a mistress in order to get things I need for my children.

Crazy! eek

I didn't date him and turned down all his advances.

I still ended up dating a married men who is legally separated... but still married.

sigh Most men are taken after 40. Divorcees are hard to find.

See, I knew you wouldn't fail me, lol

We know perfectly well that there are women out there who do exactly those things that the author talks about. I dunno why people tryna be all coy about it. lol

I have also seen women do the exact same thing you just described, so while we know dude has an agenda, quite often, so does his side-piece.

I'm guessing that's what the author meant by saying a ho should stay in a ho's place because I have also talked to several married women who say that as long as their man doesn't disrespect his home or have his isht in their face they are willing to look the other way.

She is talking about women who allow themselves to be placed in certain situations and their deluded expectations.

I swear, I knew a girl who had a man for almost every bill she had...rent, car note, etc, etc. She did stay in her place though. Never called his house or did anything shady and she made out okay I guess.

But I'm like you...I believe in God bless the child who got his (or her) own.

IKR? I am greedy and do not like sharing dick with anyone.... it'll make me itch! eek

I also think that younger women are catching on to the older gal's game.

Older women would mostly treat men as pay checks... since most were already married or done playing housewife. But now younger more enterprising women who need to pay off their student loans and offset living expenses now venture into the pussy for profit business.

Few women I know sleep with other women's guys because of romantic reasons, its all about the $$$. For the most part... funny thing I know married women who cheat and put out to get stuff too. eek

In a bad economy I guess is more coochie for the guy who can keep his bills paid. lol

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Reply #27 posted 08/19/12 11:02am

babynoz

paintedlady said:

babynoz said:

See, I knew you wouldn't fail me, lol

We know perfectly well that there are women out there who do exactly those things that the author talks about. I dunno why people tryna be all coy about it. lol

I have also seen women do the exact same thing you just described, so while we know dude has an agenda, quite often, so does his side-piece.

I'm guessing that's what the author meant by saying a ho should stay in a ho's place because I have also talked to several married women who say that as long as their man doesn't disrespect his home or have his isht in their face they are willing to look the other way.

She is talking about women who allow themselves to be placed in certain situations and their deluded expectations.

I swear, I knew a girl who had a man for almost every bill she had...rent, car note, etc, etc. She did stay in her place though. Never called his house or did anything shady and she made out okay I guess.

But I'm like you...I believe in God bless the child who got his (or her) own.

IKR? I am greedy and do not like sharing dick with anyone.... it'll make me itch! eek

I also think that younger women are catching on to the older gal's game.

Older women would mostly treat men as pay checks... since most were already married or done playing housewife. But now younger more enterprising women who need to pay off their student loans and offset living expenses now venture into the pussy for profit business.

Few women I know sleep with other women's guys because of romantic reasons, its all about the $$$. For the most part... funny thing I know married women who cheat and put out to get stuff too. eek

In a bad economy I guess is more coochie for the guy who can keep his bills paid. lol

lol

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #28 posted 08/19/12 11:55am

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A good whore does not want to break the man's marriage up. If anything, she's going to make sure that wife doesn't find out about her because she doesn't want the wife out of the picture. A good whore gets that dick and that money and then sends the motherfucker home for the wife to put up with his bullshit. Being a whore is like being an aunt or uncle. You can always send the motherfuckers home when they start showing their ass. No honey, keep that stupid wife around and keep her ass happy. evillol

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Reply #29 posted 08/19/12 12:20pm

dJJ

I am not sure if understand the discussion.

Ho is short for whore, right?

And a whore is a woman or man who delivers sex for (little) money, right?

And Kardashian girls make their own money, don't they? They don't need to sleep with some guy to make money, now do they?

I think my neighbour married (ugly, fat, loud and has moneY) with a young girl (she had to go back to Suriname after her study) and they got a beautiful baby, because she saw an opportunity to have a decent life. She has a decent husband, not pretty, but one who provides for her, is nice, reasonable and who provides her with the opportunity to build up a life for herself. I don't call that a ho, I call than realistic and sensible.

I don't understand the hatred to women by man.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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