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Printableorigmnd said: ThreadBare said: Michael Duncan Clark's extremely "dim-witted but goodhearted Negro" character was one of the most insulting roles I'd ever seen. And, I've seen a lot of them, unfortunately.
MDC's role is CRITICAL to the story...no need to be insulted. Would it make sense to have a little oriental girl for that character? This was a damn good movie. Hehehehe  . True. I just recently saw the movie, but I read the book (or series of books) first and I loved it. I was totally sobbing by the end of the book, and then when I saw the movie, I almost couldn't bring myself to watch certain scenes because I knew what was coming, and how sad it would be."I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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msserendipity... hey girl theres no doubt its a great film... made me cry to  then again that dont take much but nevertheless point is its a great film  JaneyPoos used to be it... then they changed what it was. Now what I am isn't it and what is it is strange and frightening to me...
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origmnd said: ThreadBare said: Michael Duncan Clark's extremely "dim-witted but goodhearted Negro" character was one of the most insulting roles I'd ever seen. And, I've seen a lot of them, unfortunately.
MDC's role is CRITICAL to the story...no need to be insulted. Would it make sense to have a little oriental girl for that character? This was a damn good movie. The role being critical to the story is irrelevant. It's like saying "Gone with the Wind" would've been empty without all those master-adoring, ignorant slaves. A movie about a big, oafish black man with magical powers healing ignorant wives of wardens and yet unable to save himself from a corrupt system? No, not exactly uplift. And, if that little Asian girl was a character based upon tired stereotypes, yes, I'd object as strongly. [This message was edited Mon Mar 3 9:08:15 PST 2003 by ThreadBare] | |
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ThreadBare said: origmnd said: ThreadBare said: Michael Duncan Clark's extremely "dim-witted but goodhearted Negro" character was one of the most insulting roles I'd ever seen. And, I've seen a lot of them, unfortunately.
MDC's role is CRITICAL to the story...no need to be insulted. Would it make sense to have a little oriental girl for that character? This was a damn good movie. The role being critical to the story is irrelevant. It's like saying "Gone with the Wind" would've been empty without all those master-adoring, ignorant slaves. A movie about a big, oafish black man with magical powers healing ignorant wives of wardens and yet unable to save himself from a corrupt system? No, not exactly uplift. And, if that little Asian girl was a character based upon tired stereotypes, yes, I'd object as strongly. [This message was edited Mon Mar 3 9:08:15 PST 2003 by ThreadBare] Of course that aspect of the story wasn't uplifting. It's not supposed to be. The book on which it's based is a very sad and unpredictable story. People naturally assume that he will use his powers to save himself, and that's not how it turns out. If you didn't get that part of it, then you've missed the whole point of why he felt he had these powers in the first place. Read the book, it's better. As for the "big, oafish black man", he's the central character in the story. It couldn't have been any other way without changing it completely. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: ThreadBare said: origmnd said: ThreadBare said: Michael Duncan Clark's extremely "dim-witted but goodhearted Negro" character was one of the most insulting roles I'd ever seen. And, I've seen a lot of them, unfortunately.
MDC's role is CRITICAL to the story...no need to be insulted. Would it make sense to have a little oriental girl for that character? This was a damn good movie. The role being critical to the story is irrelevant. It's like saying "Gone with the Wind" would've been empty without all those master-adoring, ignorant slaves. A movie about a big, oafish black man with magical powers healing ignorant wives of wardens and yet unable to save himself from a corrupt system? No, not exactly uplift. And, if that little Asian girl was a character based upon tired stereotypes, yes, I'd object as strongly. [This message was edited Mon Mar 3 9:08:15 PST 2003 by ThreadBare] Of course that aspect of the story wasn't uplifting. It's not supposed to be. The book on which it's based is a very sad and unpredictable story. People naturally assume that he will use his powers to save himself, and that's not how it turns out. If you didn't get that part of it, then you've missed the whole point of why he felt he had these powers in the first place. Read the book, it's better. As for the "big, oafish black man", he's the central character in the story. It couldn't have been any other way without changing it completely. I totally understand the point of the book, the personality of the character and role that personality plays in the story. Believe me. I'm saying that that kind of kindhearted, oafish, big black man is a tired model in American entertainment -- particularly in films. It's tired. That's my point. | |
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I'm saying that that kind of kindhearted, oafish, big black man is a tired model in American entertainment -- particularly in films. It's tired. That's my point.[/quote] hmmm..entertainment?...notr really...it was story..a strong story at that. whether the guy was bkack or white wolud not have made a difference...but set in the deep south then...hey ...predictable...but still amazing and moving since watching the movie i've apoken to so many ppl...and it has touched so many. 
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i must have not been concentrating when i watched this movie i missed all of that damn my selective viewing .. | |
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i must have not been concentrating when i watched this movie i missed all of that damn my selective viewing .. step hon...i was quoting Threadbare here...i'm selective too 
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ThreadBare said: minneapolisgenius said: ThreadBare said: origmnd said: ThreadBare said: Michael Duncan Clark's extremely "dim-witted but goodhearted Negro" character was one of the most insulting roles I'd ever seen. And, I've seen a lot of them, unfortunately.
MDC's role is CRITICAL to the story...no need to be insulted. Would it make sense to have a little oriental girl for that character? This was a damn good movie. The role being critical to the story is irrelevant. It's like saying "Gone with the Wind" would've been empty without all those master-adoring, ignorant slaves. A movie about a big, oafish black man with magical powers healing ignorant wives of wardens and yet unable to save himself from a corrupt system? No, not exactly uplift. And, if that little Asian girl was a character based upon tired stereotypes, yes, I'd object as strongly. [This message was edited Mon Mar 3 9:08:15 PST 2003 by ThreadBare] Of course that aspect of the story wasn't uplifting. It's not supposed to be. The book on which it's based is a very sad and unpredictable story. People naturally assume that he will use his powers to save himself, and that's not how it turns out. If you didn't get that part of it, then you've missed the whole point of why he felt he had these powers in the first place. Read the book, it's better. As for the "big, oafish black man", he's the central character in the story. It couldn't have been any other way without changing it completely. I totally understand the point of the book, the personality of the character and role that personality plays in the story. Believe me. I'm saying that that kind of kindhearted, oafish, big black man is a tired model in American entertainment -- particularly in films. It's tired. That's my point. My point is that he HAD to appear "threatening" to make his power less believable and let the ignorant assume his guilt etc. | |
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That is one good movie. The only part I cringed at is when the molecules were going into the bad guard to give him the cancer. And I was peeved when that cute mouse got stomped on. 
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