Some possible spoilers, for those that can't wait! :-

http://filmsfilmsfilms.co...12-07-11-9

I'm salivating over this. Thank you Chris Nolan for rescuing the Batman franchise.

Nolan has done amazingly up 'til now with the franchise....I just hope he doesn't wimp out for with the conclusion and go for the standard Hollywood ending. Guess it depends how much the studio were leaning on him....you know what their meddling is like....!

We'll have to wait and see....

I just hope WB puts the Batman franchise in the hands of a capable successor - someone who understands what Batman is supposed to be and respects the source material. We don't want another Joel Schumacher.

Did anyone read these? Do they give away much, especially anything towards the end?

Phishanga said:

Did anyone read these? Do they give away much, especially anything towards the end?

It does talk about the ending of the film, some pretty big speculation about how it ends....probably best to avoid if you really don't want to know anything about the film.

I'm hoping they get a decent director in for the next reboot, and they film The Dark Knight Returns mini series...that would be superb. I'd even be happy to wait for Bale to age a good few years, so he can reprise the role as an older Bruce Wayne.

McG should be the director of the new trilogy...

Yay!! More fun.

DaveT said:

Phishanga said:

Did anyone read these? Do they give away much, especially anything towards the end?

It does talk about the ending of the film, some pretty big speculation about how it ends....probably best to avoid if you really don't want to know anything about the film.

I'm hoping they get a decent director in for the next reboot, and they film The Dark Knight Returns mini series...that would be superb. I'd even be happy to wait for Bale to age a good few years, so he can reprise the role as an older Bruce Wayne.

I doubt it will be a reboot, more like a continuation of the Nolan trilogy, featuring a 45-50 years old Batman (Bale or not), with Robin, an old Gordon, or other misused characters (the Riddler, Penguin, perhaps the return of the Joker/Catwoman, etc)

but I predict there won't be another Batman movie at least until 2019-2020...

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The film is out and the verdict is in....so, what next for Batman (warning, spoilers!):-

http://filmsfilmsfilms.co...2-07-21-10

It's been out for a few days in Thailand.

I've seen it already.

The ending is a Hollywood ending, but fitting for the storyline---not too cheesy.

The movie is not as good as the first or the second, and mirrors the first

one in tone moreso than the darker second one.

The last 20 minutes of the film threaten to derail it, but fortunately

the film survives...

This is a flawed but entertaining movie. Compared to the colder, more

sinister second one, this one has touchy-feely heartfilled moments.

I would rank this as my favorite despite its flaws. I actually like

the first one better than the second---don't get me wrong, the second

one was a better movie...I just enjoyed it less.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt is absolutely gorgeous in this movie, as is

Ann Hathaway.

4.5/5

The best Batman yet and despite its flaws the best superhero movie yet.

I was highly skeptical of Anne Hathaway's casting, but she's fantastic. more depth to Catwoman than any prior depiction including Michelle Pfeiffer.

Great villain. Almost too good as they painted themselves in a corner.

POTENTIAL SPOILERS:

Hundreds of police underground for months and no one finds a way out? (Let alone why they didn't get the order to withdraw when it was given.) It recalls the Chilean miner saga but the logisitics of this would've required a commitment of resources to keep them alive.

It was obvious (to me) that climbing out without the rope was the strategy to take.

In refence to the point above, the many layers of the movie give it depth and richness unexpected in an action film. Plenty of political and social commentary, that thankfully isn't explicitly laid out as if we can't understand.

Nice twist but unresolved as to what led to the initial distrust.

A neutron bomb is designed to kill people and leave buildings standing. It wouldn't have leveled the island.

How did the island maintain power and city services for months, isolated?

Cop blowing the bridge? WTH?!! Hello, McFly?!!!!

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Spoiler alert!!!! Batman is really Kal-El, an extra-terrestrial from the dying planet pf Krypton.

Just kidding.

I just saw it today, and while I don't think it's quite as good as The Dark Knight, it's an awesome movie, yet in some respects it's even darker in parts than TDK was. Having said that, it relates a lot more to Batman Begins than TDK, as a lot of the main themes in this movie point back to the first film of the Christopher Nolan trilogy. Bane was quite an evil character, yet the big surprise was Anne Hatahway's portrayal of Catwoman (though she's never specifically referred to that by name). Her character represents the villain as a tortured soul who wants to do good but can't believe in herself enough to do that until she hooks up with Batman. Also, Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character is really awesome in this movie, and at the end there's a slight reference to him eventually becoming Robin/Nightwing.

Of couse, a lot of comparisons will be made with this movie to The Avengers, and while I thought both movies were excellent, they inhabit different worlds and different styles cinematically. The Avengers was more of a straight popcorn superhero movie while TDKR explores a lot of moral, social and political dilemmas.

It was ok.

I found Bane hard to understand most of the time and was reminded of how annoying Christian Bale's Batman rasp was.

Went and saw it Friday night.

Awesome! At the end of the movie the entire theatre

The ending leads me to believe that it is an opening of another door for another Batman as the cop dude found the bat cave.

Bruce Wayne did survive the nuclear blast.

naffi said:

Joseph Gordon-Levitt, wow he has really grown up from 3rd Rock, didn't believe it was him to start with! Spoiler Alert!!! How did Bruce manage to get back to Gotham from the put, when no one else could get in or out??? Where was the shock wave/ tidal wave from the bomb explosion??? [b][Edited 7/22/12 0:27am][/b]

It was a neutron bomb which is designed to kill people without destroying buildings. It therefore has a small blast radius. If he were far away enough and at altitude, the wave wouldn't be a catastrophic one. Plenty of room to dissipate if he were outside the bay.

Get back from where?

luv4u said:

Went and saw it Friday night.

Awesome! At the end of the movie the entire theatre

The ending leads me to believe that it is an opening of another door for another Batman as the cop dude found the bat cave.

Bruce Wayne did survive the nuclear blast.

He didn't 'find' the Batcave. (I may be misinterpreting your use of the word 'found.') It was given to him in Wayne's will. He was given the location.

It was only logical to go behind the waterfall.

Nightwing, would be the character that emerges.

I liked the ending also. Ended Christian Bale's run but didn't seal the franchise. Also Bane is still alive.

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SUPRMAN said:

luv4u said:

Went and saw it Friday night.

Awesome! At the end of the movie the entire theatre

The ending leads me to believe that it is an opening of another door for another Batman as the cop dude found the bat cave.

Bruce Wayne did survive the nuclear blast.

He didn't 'find' the Batcave. (I may be misinterpreting your use of the word 'found.') It was given to him in Wayne's will. He was given the location.

It was only logical to go behind the waterfall.

Nightwing, would be the character that emerges.

I liked the ending also. Ended Christian Bale's run but didn't seal the franchise. Also Bane is still alive.

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But, why does the woman say to the cop, "I like your real name better. You should use it...Robin."?

I read somewhere that Nolan vowed no Robin, but it seems to me that Gorden-Levitt is being set up to be Robin?

I recall, Robin's parents were murdered too, no?

I'm not a huge Batman fan of course, so obviously I can be way off base.

imago said:

SUPRMAN said:

He didn't 'find' the Batcave. (I may be misinterpreting your use of the word 'found.') It was given to him in Wayne's will. He was given the location.

It was only logical to go behind the waterfall.

Nightwing, would be the character that emerges.

I liked the ending also. Ended Christian Bale's run but didn't seal the franchise. Also Bane is still alive.

[Edited 7/22/12 9:29am]

But, why does the woman say to the cop, "I like your real name better. You should use it...Robin."?

I read somewhere that Nolan vowed no Robin, but it seems to me that Gorden-Levitt is being set up to be Robin?

I recall, Robin's parents were murdered too, no?

I'm not a huge Batman fan of course, so obviously I can be way off base.

The Dark Knight is not the same Batman as Batman and Robin.

Btw, 'Robin's' real name was Dick Grayson, so . . . .

Thsi seems like the comic book line they adopted.

Following the events of Batman's apparent death during Final Crisis, Nightwing has closed down shop in New York so as to return to Gotham. He has opted to give up on having a normal job, and instead intends to put all his effort into protecting the city. After his returns he confronts Two-Face and Ra's al Ghul, proving two of his mentor's greatest enemies that he is an equal to Batman after he defeated them. He also finds himself being tasked to raise Bruce's biological son Damian with Alfred.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightwing

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SUPRMAN said:

imago said:

But, why does the woman say to the cop, "I like your real name better. You should use it...Robin."?

I read somewhere that Nolan vowed no Robin, but it seems to me that Gorden-Levitt is being set up to be Robin?

I recall, Robin's parents were murdered too, no?

I'm not a huge Batman fan of course, so obviously I can be way off base.

The Dark Knight is not the same Batman as Batman and Robin.

Btw, 'Robin's' real name was Dick Grayson, so . . . .

Thsi seems like the comic book line they adopted.

Following the events of Batman's apparent death during Final Crisis, Nightwing has closed down shop in New York so as to return to Gotham. He has opted to give up on having a normal job, and instead intends to put all his effort into protecting the city. After his returns he confronts Two-Face and Ra's al Ghul, proving two of his mentor's greatest enemies that he is an equal to Batman after he defeated them. He also finds himself being tasked to raise Bruce's biological son Damian with Alfred.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightwing

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hmmm.

Dick Grayson is also Nightwing though, no? According to this source : http://batman.wikia.com/w...he_Batman)

Robin gives up the moniker when he assumes the role of Batman to become

Nightwing.

The character in the movie is named Robin John Blake though.

I'm not sure what storyline Nolan would adapt if the franchise continues in another direction,

but I'm guessing under "Nightwing" would be the one since he's been pretty anti-Robin.

To me though, that's just another name for the same guy unless I'm way off base.

Either way, the story hints at Nightwing since Batman keeps saying that "The batman'

is not a person, but a role.

But scene where the woman compliments his name "Robin" is pretty in-your-face about it.

imago said:

SUPRMAN said:

He didn't 'find' the Batcave. (I may be misinterpreting your use of the word 'found.') It was given to him in Wayne's will. He was given the location.

It was only logical to go behind the waterfall.

Nightwing, would be the character that emerges.

I liked the ending also. Ended Christian Bale's run but didn't seal the franchise. Also Bane is still alive.

[Edited 7/22/12 9:29am]

But, why does the woman say to the cop, "I like your real name better. You should use it...Robin."?

I read somewhere that Nolan vowed no Robin, but it seems to me that Gorden-Levitt is being set up to be Robin?

I recall, Robin's parents were murdered too, no?

I'm not a huge Batman fan of course, so obviously I can be way off base.

from imdb.

Christian Bale has stated that he would not play Batman if Robin appeared anywhere in the trilogy. Christopher Nolan agreed not to include Robin as it would undermine the dark tone of his series. At the end of the film, Detective John Blake's (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) legal name is revealed to be "Robin", and he quits the police force to join Batman at the Batcave.

muirdo said:

imago said:

But, why does the woman say to the cop, "I like your real name better. You should use it...Robin."?

I read somewhere that Nolan vowed no Robin, but it seems to me that Gorden-Levitt is being set up to be Robin?

I recall, Robin's parents were murdered too, no?

I'm not a huge Batman fan of course, so obviously I can be way off base.

from imdb.

Christian Bale has stated that he would not play Batman if Robin appeared anywhere in the trilogy. Christopher Nolan agreed not to include Robin as it would undermine the dark tone of his series. At the end of the film, Detective John Blake's (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) legal name is revealed to be "Robin", and he quits the police force to join Batman at the Batcave.

In the movie, he does not quit the force to join Batman at the Batcave though.

He quit the force before Batman/Bruce Wayne's death and only is led to the Batcave after the reading of the will where he inherits the Batcave.

Nightwing/Robin are both Dick Grayson. Alternate reality storylines.

imago said:

SUPRMAN said:

The Dark Knight is not the same Batman as Batman and Robin.

Btw, 'Robin's' real name was Dick Grayson, so . . . .

Thsi seems like the comic book line they adopted.

Following the events of Batman's apparent death during Final Crisis, Nightwing has closed down shop in New York so as to return to Gotham. He has opted to give up on having a normal job, and instead intends to put all his effort into protecting the city. After his returns he confronts Two-Face and Ra's al Ghul, proving two of his mentor's greatest enemies that he is an equal to Batman after he defeated them. He also finds himself being tasked to raise Bruce's biological son Damian with Alfred.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightwing

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hmmm.

Dick Grayson is also Nightwing though, no? According to this source : http://batman.wikia.com/w...he_Batman)

Robin gives up the moniker when he assumes the role of Batman to become

Nightwing.

The character in the movie is named Robin John Blake though.

I'm not sure what storyline Nolan would adapt if the franchise continues in another direction,

but I'm guessing under "Nightwing" would be the one since he's been pretty anti-Robin.

To me though, that's just another name for the same guy unless I'm way off base.

Either way, the story hints at Nightwing since Batman keeps saying that "The batman'

is not a person, but a role.

But scene where the woman compliments his name "Robin" is pretty in-your-face about it.

Christopher Nolan isn't glued to the comic book storyline, so he interpretation can and does differ.

Robin was probably a nod to the missing character. The story is setup for continuation but it could be a new Batman with a Robin.

SUPRMAN said:

imago said:

hmmm.

Dick Grayson is also Nightwing though, no? According to this source : http://batman.wikia.com/w...he_Batman)

Robin gives up the moniker when he assumes the role of Batman to become

Nightwing.

The character in the movie is named Robin John Blake though.

I'm not sure what storyline Nolan would adapt if the franchise continues in another direction,

but I'm guessing under "Nightwing" would be the one since he's been pretty anti-Robin.

To me though, that's just another name for the same guy unless I'm way off base.

Either way, the story hints at Nightwing since Batman keeps saying that "The batman'

is not a person, but a role.

But scene where the woman compliments his name "Robin" is pretty in-your-face about it.

Christopher Nolan isn't glued to the comic book storyline, so he interpretation can and does differ.

Robin was probably a nod to the missing character. The story is setup for continuation but it could be a new Batman with a Robin.

OK, I'm hoping Joseph Goron Levitt assumes the role of Nightwing then, because the outfit will be more revealing. Ultimately, I'd like him to just wear a jockstrap and some boots, but that may not be workable into the storyline.

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SPOILER ALERT: Bane isn't the actual main villian in this film like we the viewers were led to believe throughout the trailers & the film itself.

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It's actually Taila al Ghul!

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