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Reply #60 posted 07/10/12 2:29pm

smoothcriminal
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Jesus give me strength to not bust some people in their mouths...pray

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Reply #61 posted 07/10/12 2:32pm

Timmy84

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Jesus give me strength to not bust some people in their mouths...pray

Dude! You just remind me of that girl in "Flava of Love" who was talking about "if you keep interrupting my prayers I'm a bust your ass." falloff

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Reply #62 posted 07/10/12 2:36pm

smoothcriminal
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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Jesus give me strength to not bust some people in their mouths...pray

Dude! You just remind me of that girl in "Flava of Love" who was talking about "if you keep interrupting my prayers I'm a bust your ass." falloff

[Edited 7/10/12 14:32pm]

evillol Never seen it. lol

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Reply #63 posted 07/10/12 2:53pm

Timmy84

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Dude! You just remind me of that girl in "Flava of Love" who was talking about "if you keep interrupting my prayers I'm a bust your ass." falloff

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evillol Never seen it. lol

You probably would've tuned out anyway, it was too much of a hot ass mess. lol

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Reply #64 posted 07/10/12 2:55pm

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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

evillol Never seen it. lol

You probably would've tuned out anyway, it was too much of a hot ass mess. lol

lol I saw one episode of that shit and I was like . It was just too much. lol

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Reply #65 posted 07/10/12 3:03pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:

You probably would've tuned out anyway, it was too much of a hot ass mess. lol

lol I saw one episode of that shit and I was like . It was just too much. lol

I bet it was that one when that one chick was shitting all over the place lol

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Reply #66 posted 07/10/12 3:04pm

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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

lol I saw one episode of that shit and I was like . It was just too much. lol

I bet it was that one when that one chick was shitting all over the place lol

Wait what? falloff

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Reply #67 posted 07/10/12 3:06pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:

I bet it was that one when that one chick was shitting all over the place lol

Wait what? falloff

Yeah it was right after Flav chose the girls to stay for the next week or whatever and this girl told Flav she had to go to the bathroom. Not seconds later did Flav and others started to notice shit stains and shit crumbs all over the floor, the stairs, even through the fucking hallway.

But I personally think they staged that shit like SHE did it. Maybe it was a dog. lol Or it was chocolate cake made up to look like turds. lol

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Reply #68 posted 07/10/12 3:08pm

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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Wait what? falloff

Yeah it was right after Flav chose the girls to stay for the next week or whatever and this girl told Flav she had to go to the bathroom. Not seconds later did Flav and others started to notice shit stains and shit crumbs all over the floor, the stairs, even through the fucking hallway.

But I personally think they staged that shit like SHE did it. Maybe it was a dog. lol Or it was chocolate cake made up to look like turds. lol

nasty as hell. neutral

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Reply #69 posted 07/10/12 3:10pm

Timmy84

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah it was right after Flav chose the girls to stay for the next week or whatever and this girl told Flav she had to go to the bathroom. Not seconds later did Flav and others started to notice shit stains and shit crumbs all over the floor, the stairs, even through the fucking hallway.

But I personally think they staged that shit like SHE did it. Maybe it was a dog. lol Or it was chocolate cake made up to look like turds. lol

nasty as hell. neutral

For real.

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Reply #70 posted 07/10/12 3:59pm

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Blogger: Scientology group asks followers to censor Web comments

In the wake of the impending Holmes/Cruise divorce.......

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/...04800.html

excerpt from article:

"Marty Rathbun is a defrocked apostate removed from any position in the Church for malfeasance nearly eight years ago and has no firsthand knowledge of its activities."

so i learned a new word today: "malfeasance." what a strange sounding word. i mean a person can go a lifetime and never use the wordl

i'm all thinking wtH is a malfeasance?

when i first pronouced the word, it sounds like a word someone would use for that one cousin at a family bbq. the one who is a family embarassment. the one that everyone in the family is ashamed to introduce to an invited friend.

"no, i don't want to introduce rickybubba to my friend!" "he's such a malfeasance."

[mal-fee-zuhns]

good ole scientology. nod

yes he is. nod he is a former insider gone public with what he knows, and he still has contacts on the inside.

i bet the scientologists don't like having him put this stuff out there, but then they do seem to have a real preference for control over what is said and done about them.

check this out as well if you want to know more about how they try to cotrol media exposure regarding the 'sect'. the below excerpt is from another former member who has since gone public, THIS former member speaks out about how scientology actually has GUIDELINES for controlling what the media says about them. oh yes. scientology cares

SCIENTOLOGY AND THE MEDIA: A GUIDE FOR JOURNALISTS

http://www.xenu.net/archi...ack/14.htm

Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard was deeply suspicious of the media (whom he called "chaos merchants") and established procedures for controlling and manipulating journalists that are still used by the Church of Scientology today. (See "Procedure on Entheta Press," MANUAL OF JUSTICE, by L. Ron Hubbard.) http://tinyurl.com/35tyj

Any journalist dealing with a Scientology public relations operative (referred to in the church as a "PR") faces a special challenge. No one understood that challenge better than did the late Robert Vaughn Young, who handled public relations and the media for Scientology for more than 20 years -- ultimately leaving the church and becoming an articulate and effective critic of it.

The following is excerpted from his article, "Scientology from inside out," which appeared in the November/December 1993 edition of QUILL. The article in its entirety is highly recommended and can be found online at http://tinyurl.com/39hdf

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"The Scientology world"is a labyrinth of corporate shells that"was designed to baffle all but the initiated. Add to that an arcane language and dedicated ‘PRs’ trained to divert and control inquiries, and it becomes obvious why few outsiders have been able to comprehend the Scientology hydra, let alone write about it. I hope this will make it easier"

"For my training, I studied"secret directives from Hubbard and others on how to handle reporters, how to deal with police and government agencies, how to create front groups, and how to discredit or destroy a person or a group with Hubbard's ‘fair game’ doctrine.

"I also trained other Scientology PRs on how to handle the media, using material from Hubbard. This included how to respond to a question without answering, how to divert the issue, how to tell ‘an acceptable truth,’ how to stall for time, how to assume various emotional states to control another, how to ‘attack the attacker,’ how to take control of a conversation, how to introvert a person and how to ‘get the message across’ (especially in an age of sound bites), how to help Scientology attorneys write inflammatory legal papers so the PR could then safely use the abusive phrases, and how to appear to be a religion.

"This, in brief, is what a journalist faces when encountering a trained and dedicated Scientology PR. The journalist wants a story. The PR wants to kill the story, or at least control it. While this is not particularly unusual, Scientology goes further than most. Scientology stands ready and able to unleash an assault on the journalist that can include private detectives and lawsuits, making it little wonder that publications have grown reluctant to write about the Hubbard empire. (See ‘Shudder into silence,’ QUILL, Nov./Dec. 1991.)

"Since Scientologists know how the Fourth Estate operates, it's time the journalist had a chance to learn some of the attitudes, rules, tactics, and tricks known only to Scientology.

1. YOUR LOCAL FANATIC. Before talking with any Scientology PR or executive, a journalist must know that he or she will be talking to a fanatic - a person seeking to save the world. This is exactly what Scientologists believe they are doing. "unless you stand ready to print a Scientology story exactly as presented, you will be viewed as an enemy.

2. YOU KEEPING NOTES? Know that after your meeting (and after each encounter, including phone calls) the PR will write a debrief. This report will usually be E-mailed to the PR's superior and up the command channel - and probably also into an intelligence area for filing. Therefore, start your own notes of everything that transpires.

3. IMAGE IS EVERYTHING. Realize that when you are dealing with a PR or official of the Church of Scientology, religious image is not only a vital PR defense"but is also crucial for tax-exemption purposes and for court cases. Thus the PR must be sure to demonstrate that Scientology is ‘an applied religious philosophy.’ The PR will have many documents to ‘prove the religious bona fides’ of Scientology (but lack anything to the contrary - such as decisions or rulings - of which he may honestly not know).

4. THE SHELL GAME. When proving the bona fides, PRs make no distinction among the many Scientology corporations" But when needed, a complex labyrinth of corporations - a veritable hall of mirrors - comes into play. Suddenly no two Scientology organizations touch. Officials of one will act as if they barely know the officials in another. The reason is, of course, the IRS and the courts. So try to find out which corporation you're talking to and how it relates to the material you are being given"

Trying to sort out the relations between the Church of Spiritual Technology, World Institute of Scientology Enterprises and the Religious Technology Center is like trying to solve a Rubik’s Cube. Simply take the shortcut: find the unincorporated Sea Organization (SO). Touted as a ‘fraternal’ organization, the SO is the highest inner circle of Scientology; it was the actual alter ego of Hubbard, the hidden nexus that permeates all corporations"

5. SAY WHAT? Politicians are notorious for responding to a question without answering it; Scientology PRs practice the skill for hours on end. The PR will drill how to answer simple questions about Scientology, how to ‘no-answer’ a question, how to stall for time, and how to attack. (According to the original material, this included shouting, banging the desk, pointing at the reporter, and swearing.)

Thus a seemingly innocuous question such as ‘What is Scientology?’ has already been practiced extensively, and there is a ready answer. More probing questions will produce ‘no answer.’ Therefore a reporter can measure sensitivity by avoidance, and you will find that once you understand this, it is quite easy to spot.

To deal with this, first realize that it is part of the PR's training. Listen carefully to his or her answers. (Better yet, tape the interview.) When the PR tries to avoid the question with a non sequitur, repeat your question. Continue to repeat your question until you actually get an answer. Ask the PR what drills he or she did before your interview, and ask to see current organization policies on handling the media. (Many are publicly available in Scientology bookstores.)

6. A DEAD WHAT? Depending on your story angle, you can easily find yourself buried by packs of documentation. Some are called ‘DA [dead agent] packs.’ Hubbard took the phrase from Sun-tzu's The Art of War, in which different types of agents are described. The ‘dead agent’ is the one who is caught in a lie. The ‘DA pack’ is supposed to counter a lie (thereby rendering the liar ‘dead’ as a credible source) and usually addresses a particular document, from a newspaper article to a book. It is also used to discredit a person or a group that may be a source of criticism of Scientology.

A DA pack can include anything from Hubbard's writings to a piece of press to an affidavit obtained by a private investigator. The purpose is to refute the targeted piece, person or group at virtually any cost" Where possible, verify the claims or documentation. Contact the targeted person, group, or author of the article. Also take note of what is not refuted or challenged. In Scientology, omission can be as good as admission"

7. GO FOR THE GOLD. In Scientology, there is an exact chain of command" The media are handled by the Office of Special Affairs, or OSA, in the Church of Scientology. The OSA PR will have a senior on the PR chain of command. If the PR is a local OSA staff member (meaning the PR for a city or area), his or her senior will be at the continental level (such as OSA United States, located in Los Angeles) and then at the ‘Int’ or international level (OSA Int is also in L.A.). After that, the chain of command jumps to the Religious Technology Center (RTC). In highly unusual circumstances, an RTC official will intervene to handle a journalist, particularly if it is a crucial story for one reason or another, because RTC monitors all OSA activity and is ultimately responsible for any media on Scientology, whether good or bad.

"RTC's chairman of the board is David Miscavige, who is now the admitted head of the Church of Scientology" For any story on Scientology, Miscavige is the one to be interviewed. He lives on the Golden Era Productions property at Gilman Hot Springs. The PR assigned to you will know how to get a message to him. If all else fails, call Golden Era Productions. The personnel there know how to reach him.

"CONCLUSION

Scientology is in a state of siege with psychiatry, the media, and anything else perceived as attacking Hubbard or the organization. It has been that way since Hubbard named them as enemies decades ago"

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Reply #71 posted 07/10/12 5:13pm

Stymie

KCOOLMUZIQ said:


Will Smith: 'Divorce Is Not An Option'


Will Smith: 'Divorce Is Not An Option' | Will Smith


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Why do we have to be subjected to this off topic bullshit?

Is yor relationship intact? Shouldn't it be the only one you are concerned with?
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Reply #72 posted 07/10/12 5:17pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

A few weeks ago. I was approached & invited inside the very beautiful Scientology building in Hollywood. I was pursued in a aggressive manner to join. Once inside the very Immaculate clean building. I was summoned to watch a 20 minute movie about Dianetics. It changed my life forever. Scientology believes in healing through the mind. I was honored to be in the presence of very beautiful people. All scientoligist are breathtakingly beautiful.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #73 posted 07/10/12 5:20pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

A few weeks ago. I was approached & invited inside the very beautiful Scientology building in Hollywood. I was pursued in a aggressive manner to join. Once inside the very Immaculate clean building. I was summoned to watch a 20 minute movie about Dianetics. It changed my life forever. Scientology believes in healing through the mind. I was honored to be in the presence of very beautiful people. All scientoligist are breathtakingly beautiful.

KCOOL take your L.

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Reply #74 posted 07/10/12 5:22pm

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rolleyes

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #75 posted 07/10/12 5:28pm

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So I guess Will and Jada AREN'T breathtakingly beautiful.

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #76 posted 07/10/12 5:33pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

A few weeks ago. I was approached & invited inside the very beautiful Scientology building in Hollywood. I was pursued in a aggressive manner to join. Once inside the very Immaculate clean building. I was summoned to watch a 20 minute movie about Dianetics. It changed my life forever. Scientology believes in healing through the mind. I was honored to be in the presence of very beautiful people. All scientoligist are breathtakingly beautiful.

Like every organization-where's there humans there's corruption. If the Scientology members where more forthcoming and not so restrictive on their practices and give 100% disclosure.- People would maybe be more receptive to such an organization. I mean look at the Catholic Church-they have had a lot of things go wrong with in its organization and could have handled it better.

The whole secretive way of handling a religion is the biggest RED flag that things aren't right in the state of Denmark.

The other RED flag is how they treat xmembers of their faith. Do they attack them or support them on their choice to move on. Can they still interact with members of their past faith? If it's a no, that's a RED flag.

Red flags are signs that corruption exists with in the organization.

When it comes to faith or a religion there should be no secrets period.

[Edited 7/10/12 17:34pm]

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #77 posted 07/10/12 6:04pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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love Scientologist love

Kirstie is a very friendly breathtakingly beautiful approachable women & a PRINCE fan. I enjoyed meeting her...

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #78 posted 07/10/12 7:08pm

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

A few weeks ago. I was approached & invited inside the very beautiful Scientology building in Hollywood. I was pursued in a aggressive manner to join. Once inside the very Immaculate clean building. I was summoned to watch a 20 minute movie about Dianetics. It changed my life forever. Scientology believes in healing through the mind. I was honored to be in the presence of very beautiful people. All scientoligist are breathtakingly beautiful.

It's a "church" based on Star Trek and it dismisses mental illnesses and the means to treat them.

Tom Cruise can take his ranting ass elsewhere with the whole depression is due to a "vitamin imbalance".

Fuck outta here. rolleyes

The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl

"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror)

"I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" lol
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Reply #79 posted 07/10/12 7:12pm

Stymie

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:



KCOOLMUZIQ said:


A few weeks ago. I was approached & invited inside the very beautiful Scientology building in Hollywood. I was pursued in a aggressive manner to join. Once inside the very Immaculate clean building. I was summoned to watch a 20 minute movie about Dianetics. It changed my life forever. Scientology believes in healing through the mind. I was honored to be in the presence of very beautiful people. All scientoligist are breathtakingly beautiful.



It's a "church" based on Star Trek and it dismisses mental illnesses and the means to treat them.



Tom Cruise can take his ranting ass elsewhere with the whole depression is due to a "vitamin imbalance".




Fuck outta here. rolleyes

mushy
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Reply #80 posted 07/10/12 9:03pm

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ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

A few weeks ago. I was approached & invited inside the very beautiful Scientology building in Hollywood. I was pursued in a aggressive manner to join. Once inside the very Immaculate clean building. I was summoned to watch a 20 minute movie about Dianetics. It changed my life forever. Scientology believes in healing through the mind. I was honored to be in the presence of very beautiful people. All scientoligist are breathtakingly beautiful.

It's a "church" based on Star Trek and it dismisses mental illnesses and the means to treat them.

Tom Cruise can take his ranting ass elsewhere with the whole depression is due to a "vitamin imbalance".

Fuck outta here. rolleyes

Hey! What's wrong with Star Trek?! mad lol

Christianity...

God created EVERYTHING in six days. On the seventh day dude just chilled.

Jesus, a man, is the actual son of the guy who created everything. But instead of just sending Jesus down to do his bidding (presumably, because he was chillin'), he decides it would be cool to have a betrothed couple be his surragate parents.

Now, even though these folks are betrothed, about to be married, they haven't had sex yet.

So this woman gets pregnant by the hand of god, immaculately.

Moses built a wooden boat big enough to hold two of all the animals, birds, insects, etc. Oh yeah, and enough food for all of them. Then, Moses and his family chill on this boat while the entire WORLD floods. After the world is done flooding, Moses and his incestuous family re-populate it.

Oh yeah, and did I mention Moses parted an entire sea so his people could walk through it? Or that he talked to a burning bush claiming to be the voice of god? Because, again, god was too busy chillin' to actually, ya know, be GOD. Nah, he just had a bush do his talking for him.

Moses lived to be 950 years old.

Adam 930.

Solomon had 700 wives, 300 concubines, and 12,000 horses.

Elijah stretched himself over a widow’s son three times to bring him back to life. 1 Kings 17:21

And I TOTALLY forgot the part about Jesus being, ya know, killed and, ya know, coming back to life.

The bible was written by about 40 men over a period of 1600 years, from 1500 BC to 100 years after that miraculous fellow died (the first time).

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I could go on and on and on, literally, forever. I could post something strange and unbelievable from pretty much every chapter of the bible.

The "cult" of christianity.

And it's no different for any other religion. ALL of them are fantistically weird to the point of sounding like science fiction if you don't have "faith". They're belief systems, meant to bring people comfort and guidance. It doesn't matter which one it is, there's a good chance that to outsiders it's going to sound completely insane.

To me, praying to some all powerful being who creating "everything" is about the weirdest thing I've ever heard. To those who take comfort from their faith it feels perfectly normal - it brings them solace, strength and peace. As such, I respect their choice to have that set of beliefs. If I was to put forth as much negative energy hating all Christians as some people do Scientology, I would have no time for anything else.

And I could certainly go down the road of explaining all the war, violence and death the religions of the world have brought upon humanity.

So much hate. Soooo much hate.

[Edited 7/11/12 0:30am]

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Reply #81 posted 07/11/12 4:44am

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Cerebus said:

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

It's a "church" based on Star Trek and it dismisses mental illnesses and the means to treat them.

Tom Cruise can take his ranting ass elsewhere with the whole depression is due to a "vitamin imbalance".

Fuck outta here. rolleyes

Hey! What's wrong with Star Trek?! mad lol

Christianity...

God created EVERYTHING in six days. On the seventh day dude just chilled.

Jesus, a man, is the actual son of the guy who created everything. But instead of just sending Jesus down to do his bidding (presumably, because he was chillin'), he decides it would be cool to have a betrothed couple be his surragate parents.

Now, even though these folks are betrothed, about to be married, they haven't had sex yet.

So this woman gets pregnant by the hand of god, immaculately.

Moses built a wooden boat big enough to hold two of all the animals, birds, insects, etc. Oh yeah, and enough food for all of them. Then, Moses and his family chill on this boat while the entire WORLD floods. After the world is done flooding, Moses and his incestuous family re-populate it.

Oh yeah, and did I mention Moses parted an entire sea so his people could walk through it? Or that he talked to a burning bush claiming to be the voice of god? Because, again, god was too busy chillin' to actually, ya know, be GOD. Nah, he just had a bush do his talking for him.

Moses lived to be 950 years old.

Adam 930.

Solomon had 700 wives, 300 concubines, and 12,000 horses.

Elijah stretched himself over a widow’s son three times to bring him back to life. 1 Kings 17:21

And I TOTALLY forgot the part about Jesus being, ya know, killed and, ya know, coming back to life.

The bible was written by about 40 men over a period of 1600 years, from 1500 BC to 100 years after that miraculous fellow died (the first time).

-------------------------------

I could go on and on and on, literally, forever. I could post something strange and unbelievable from pretty much every chapter of the bible.

The "cult" of christianity.

And it's no different for any other religion. ALL of them are fantistically weird to the point of sounding like science fiction if you don't have "faith". They're belief systems, meant to bring people comfort and guidance. It doesn't matter which one it is, there's a good chance that to outsiders it's going to sound completely insane.

To me, praying to some all powerful being who creating "everything" is about the weirdest thing I've ever heard. To those who take comfort from their faith it feels perfectly normal - it brings them solace, strength and peace. As such, I respect their choice to have that set of beliefs. If I was to put forth as much negative energy hating all Christians as some people do Scientology, I would have no time for anything else.

And I could certainly go down the road of explaining all the war, violence and death the religions of the world have brought upon humanity.

So much hate. Soooo much hate.

[Edited 7/11/12 0:30am]

those are good points. i'm not expert on scientology, but i agree that some aspects of dianetics are helpful to the human consciousness. i'm sorry i offended you with my remarks above and hope you don't really believe that we all 'hate' scientology

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Reply #82 posted 07/11/12 8:07am

ThruTheEyesOfW
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XxAxX said:

Cerebus said:

Hey! What's wrong with Star Trek?! mad lol

Christianity...

God created EVERYTHING in six days. On the seventh day dude just chilled.

Jesus, a man, is the actual son of the guy who created everything. But instead of just sending Jesus down to do his bidding (presumably, because he was chillin'), he decides it would be cool to have a betrothed couple be his surragate parents.

Now, even though these folks are betrothed, about to be married, they haven't had sex yet.

So this woman gets pregnant by the hand of god, immaculately.

Moses built a wooden boat big enough to hold two of all the animals, birds, insects, etc. Oh yeah, and enough food for all of them. Then, Moses and his family chill on this boat while the entire WORLD floods. After the world is done flooding, Moses and his incestuous family re-populate it.

Oh yeah, and did I mention Moses parted an entire sea so his people could walk through it? Or that he talked to a burning bush claiming to be the voice of god? Because, again, god was too busy chillin' to actually, ya know, be GOD. Nah, he just had a bush do his talking for him.

Moses lived to be 950 years old.

Adam 930.

Solomon had 700 wives, 300 concubines, and 12,000 horses.

Elijah stretched himself over a widow’s son three times to bring him back to life. 1 Kings 17:21

And I TOTALLY forgot the part about Jesus being, ya know, killed and, ya know, coming back to life.

The bible was written by about 40 men over a period of 1600 years, from 1500 BC to 100 years after that miraculous fellow died (the first time).

-------------------------------

I could go on and on and on, literally, forever. I could post something strange and unbelievable from pretty much every chapter of the bible.

The "cult" of christianity.

And it's no different for any other religion. ALL of them are fantistically weird to the point of sounding like science fiction if you don't have "faith". They're belief systems, meant to bring people comfort and guidance. It doesn't matter which one it is, there's a good chance that to outsiders it's going to sound completely insane.

To me, praying to some all powerful being who creating "everything" is about the weirdest thing I've ever heard. To those who take comfort from their faith it feels perfectly normal - it brings them solace, strength and peace. As such, I respect their choice to have that set of beliefs. If I was to put forth as much negative energy hating all Christians as some people do Scientology, I would have no time for anything else.

And I could certainly go down the road of explaining all the war, violence and death the religions of the world have brought upon humanity.

So much hate. Soooo much hate.

[Edited 7/11/12 0:30am]

those are good points. i'm not expert on scientology, but i agree that some aspects of dianetics are helpful to the human consciousness. i'm sorry i offended you with my remarks above and hope you don't really believe that we all 'hate' scientology

I don't "hate" anyone, nor do I "hate" Scientology.

I never bad-mouthed Christianity either.

But there are aspects of Scientology I'm not fond of nor do I agree with. There's nothing wrong with Star Trek, but I think a church built upon doctrine from popular culture isn't exactly credible, especially when they want to start attacking people with mental illness, or the means to treat those diseases.

Mental illness is very real, and Tom Cruise's defence of Scientology's views on the matter is truly cringe-worthy.

The salvation of man is through love and in love. - Dr. V. Frankl

"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror)

"I don't need anger management, I need people to stop pissing me off" lol
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Reply #83 posted 07/11/12 8:13am

aardvark15

KCOOLMUZIQ said:







"Intact"


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Reply #84 posted 07/11/12 8:19am

aardvark15

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A few weeks ago. I was approached & invited inside the very beautiful Scientology building in Hollywood. I was pursued in a aggressive manner to join. Once inside the very Immaculate clean building. I was summoned to watch a 20 minute movie about Dianetics. It changed my life forever. Scientology believes in healing through the mind. I was honored to be in the presence of very beautiful people. All scientoligist are breathtakingly beautiful.


It's a fucking cult
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Reply #85 posted 07/11/12 8:25am

aardvark15

Cerebus said:



ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:




KCOOLMUZIQ said:


A few weeks ago. I was approached & invited inside the very beautiful Scientology building in Hollywood. I was pursued in a aggressive manner to join. Once inside the very Immaculate clean building. I was summoned to watch a 20 minute movie about Dianetics. It changed my life forever. Scientology believes in healing through the mind. I was honored to be in the presence of very beautiful people. All scientoligist are breathtakingly beautiful.



It's a "church" based on Star Trek and it dismisses mental illnesses and the means to treat them.



Tom Cruise can take his ranting ass elsewhere with the whole depression is due to a "vitamin imbalance".




Fuck outta here. rolleyes





Hey! What's wrong with Star Trek?! mad lol



Christianity...



God created EVERYTHING in six days. On the seventh day dude just chilled.



Jesus, a man, is the actual son of the guy who created everything. But instead of just sending Jesus down to do his bidding (presumably, because he was chillin'), he decides it would be cool to have a betrothed couple be his surragate parents.



Now, even though these folks are betrothed, about to be married, they haven't had sex yet.



So this woman gets pregnant by the hand of god, immaculately.



Moses built a wooden boat big enough to hold two of all the animals, birds, insects, etc. Oh yeah, and enough food for all of them. Then, Moses and his family chill on this boat while the entire WORLD floods. After the world is done flooding, Moses and his incestuous family re-populate it.



Oh yeah, and did I mention Moses parted an entire sea so his people could walk through it? Or that he talked to a burning bush claiming to be the voice of god? Because, again, god was too busy chillin' to actually, ya know, be GOD. Nah, he just had a bush do his talking for him.



Moses lived to be 950 years old.



Adam 930.



Solomon had 700 wives, 300 concubines, and 12,000 horses.



Elijah stretched himself over a widow’s son three times to bring him back to life. 1 Kings 17:21



And I TOTALLY forgot the part about Jesus being, ya know, killed and, ya know, coming back to life.



The bible was written by about 40 men over a period of 1600 years, from 1500 BC to 100 years after that miraculous fellow died (the first time).



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I could go on and on and on, literally, forever. I could post something strange and unbelievable from pretty much every chapter of the bible.



The "cult" of christianity.



And it's no different for any other religion. ALL of them are fantistically weird to the point of sounding like science fiction if you don't have "faith". They're belief systems, meant to bring people comfort and guidance. It doesn't matter which one it is, there's a good chance that to outsiders it's going to sound completely insane.



To me, praying to some all powerful being who creating "everything" is about the weirdest thing I've ever heard. To those who take comfort from their faith it feels perfectly normal - it brings them solace, strength and peace. As such, I respect their choice to have that set of beliefs. If I was to put forth as much negative energy hating all Christians as some people do Scientology, I would have no time for anything else.



And I could certainly go down the road of explaining all the war, violence and death the religions of the world have brought upon humanity.



So much hate. Soooo much hate.






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I'm fine with religions (even though I don't agree with any of them) I'm not fine with cults (in the modern meaning). They draw people in without telling the true beliefs until they are so far brainwashed they suck up to the church no matter what (including paying). I'd rather believe a random stranger's religion than a sci-fi writer btw
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Reply #86 posted 07/11/12 9:55am

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ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

A few weeks ago. I was approached & invited inside the very beautiful Scientology building in Hollywood. I was pursued in a aggressive manner to join. Once inside the very Immaculate clean building. I was summoned to watch a 20 minute movie about Dianetics. It changed my life forever. Scientology believes in healing through the mind. I was honored to be in the presence of very beautiful people. All scientoligist are breathtakingly beautiful.

It's a "church" based on Star Trek and it dismisses mental illnesses and the means to treat them.

Tom Cruise can take his ranting ass elsewhere with the whole depression is due to a "vitamin imbalance".

Fuck outta here. rolleyes

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

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Reply #87 posted 07/11/12 5:20pm

dJJ

Cerebus said:

XxAxX said:

Thread started 07/06/12 6:49pm

luv4u

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Blogger: Scientology group asks followers to censor Web comments

In the wake of the impending Holmes/Cruise divorce.......

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/...04800.html

Did you actually read the article? That person is AGAINST the main body of the "Church of Scientology". In the article, it states...

"Church of Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw rejected Rathbun comments. In an email sent to Yahoo!, she said the email he cited was not from the church.

"This did not come from the Church or anyone associated with the Church, nor is it a Church plan," Pouw wrote. "The Church of Scientology International Office of Special Affairs is responsible for public affairs and calling it a 'dirty tricks' and 'propaganda arm' is offensive."

She goes on to write that "Marty Rathbun is a defrocked apostate removed from any position in the Church for malfeasance nearly eight years ago and has no firsthand knowledge of its activities."

I repeat, Scientology DOES NOT CARE what anybody thinks about the Cruise/Holmes divorce.

Edit: Why is luv's picture showing up in your post and the quote? lol I thought it was her who posted it at first, but after I posted I saw her pic in the body of the post. Weird. lol

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Journalists or ex-Scientologists who publish anything that is critical about scientology get followed and intimidated by scientologists.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...EYS7SpFTEI

Why does the scientology church isolate their members from friends and family, if they would not care what the world thinks of them?

Newbie’s don't even notice it, however 2 years down the line, they don't want to be close to people who are not involved with scientology. The scientologists use very sophisticated manipulation techniques, so they 'own' their members. And members don't notice this at all.

Newbie can't belief that these kind, loving and pure people, who are so nice to them, actually are a threat to them. That's why they don't run as fast as they can. It’s a trap set up for them and they walk into it with open eyes.

People who join the scientology are under the impression they voluntarily participate. However, they have been brainwashed according a very strict protocol. They just don't want to belief that about al these kind and loving scientologists.

I’m sorry, I tend to not focus wink

Back to subject. You think they don’t care about what get’s published about them.

If scientology would not care what others think about them, why do they need to make sure members distrust anybody who's not scientology?

Why do they stalk and intimidate anybody who criticises them publicly?

And why do they encourage their members to become agressive (sometimes even violent) towards people who publish about their corrupt financials?

I think the top dogs of the Scientology are afraid for transparancy. They want Tom Cruis and all the other members their money. And they don't want members to realize, that they are trapped in a scary money sucking scam.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #88 posted 07/11/12 5:21pm

dJJ

Cerebus said:

XxAxX said:

Thread started 07/06/12 6:49pm

luv4u

Moderator

avatar

moderator

Blogger: Scientology group asks followers to censor Web comments

In the wake of the impending Holmes/Cruise divorce.......

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/...04800.html

Did you actually read the article? That person is AGAINST the main body of the "Church of Scientology". In the article, it states...

"Church of Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw rejected Rathbun comments. In an email sent to Yahoo!, she said the email he cited was not from the church.

"This did not come from the Church or anyone associated with the Church, nor is it a Church plan," Pouw wrote. "The Church of Scientology International Office of Special Affairs is responsible for public affairs and calling it a 'dirty tricks' and 'propaganda arm' is offensive."

She goes on to write that "Marty Rathbun is a defrocked apostate removed from any position in the Church for malfeasance nearly eight years ago and has no firsthand knowledge of its activities."

I repeat, Scientology DOES NOT CARE what anybody thinks about the Cruise/Holmes divorce.

Edit: Why is luv's picture showing up in your post and the quote? lol I thought it was her who posted it at first, but after I posted I saw her pic in the body of the post. Weird. lol

[Edited 7/10/12 9:28am]


Journalists or ex-Scientologists who publish anything that is critical about scientology get followed and intimidated by scientologists.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...EYS7SpFTEI

Why does the scientology church isolate their members from friends and family, if they would not care what the world thinks of them?

Newbie’s don't even notice it, however 2 years down the line, they don't want to be close to people who are not involved with scientology. The scientologists use very sophisticated manipulation techniques, so they 'own' their members. And members don't notice this at all.

Newbie can't belief that these kind, loving and pure people, who are so nice to them, actually are a threat to them. That's why they don't run as fast as they can. It’s a trap set up for them and they walk into it with open eyes.

People who join the scientology are under the impression they voluntarily participate. However, they have been brainwashed according a very strict protocol. They just don't want to belief that about al these kind and loving scientologists.

I’m sorry, I tend to not focus wink

Back to subject. You think they don’t care about what get’s published about them.

If scientology would not care what others think about them, why do they need to make sure members distrust anybody who's not scientology?

Why do they stalk and intimidate anybody who criticises them publicly?

And why do they encourage their members to become agressive (sometimes even violent) towards people who publish about their corrupt financials?

I think the top dogs of the Scientology are afraid for transparancy.

They want Tom Cruis and all the other members their money.

They don't want members to realize, that they are trapped in a scary money sucking scam.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #89 posted 07/24/12 9:52am

broughtsam

It’s because she wanted to protect Suri from being influenced by Scientology; that’s why she left Tom. I can’t blame her though; I’ve read about what it takes to escape from cults and stuff. And Scientology is one of the ones that’s really hard to get out of. Steve Hassan’s new book, “Freedom Of Mind” has a pretty good explanation of this: http://www.freedomofmind.com/

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