Reply #90 posted 07/03/12 7:10pm
Timmy84 |
Gunsnhalen said:
You guys may attack me for this but hear me out. I myself as a gay men can see why some people may not want to automatically come out.
Because whether we like it or not being gay is seen as a big thing when it shouldn't be.... And if i was releasing music or movies or just any kind of work i would want to be known for that work. Not for oh that gay guy who does this or that, it's true that once you come out you are seen as a ''gay artist'' And some artists want to appeal to everyone not just gay.
George Michael appealed to everyone but when he came out his music was quickly labeled as ''gay'' same with Elton.. and i remember Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys saying he somewhat regrets coming out when he did. Because he didn't want PSB to be seen as stritctly a gay band.
So idk i can see why some artists or news people or whoever may feel the need to not make it a big announcement for reasons like that. It would be nice if someone coming out wasn't headline material as it's just a purely natural thing....
But we have a long way to go before that happens sadly
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Reply #92 posted 07/03/12 7:50pm
vainandy |
musicjunky318 said:
Why do people feel the need to announce it? It's your business Anderson. The hell with anybody else.
The same reason straight people have pictures of their spouse and kids on their desk. We'll keep our shit to ourselves when straight people do the same. Andy is a four letter word. |
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Reply #93 posted 07/03/12 7:52pm
vainandy |
Cerebus said:
johnart said:
Oh I don't know...
Why do straight people feel the need to announce their preference?
Because I want some pussy. Duh.
And I want some dick and you sure as hell ain't gonna get some unless you let somebody know you want it. Andy is a four letter word. |
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Reply #94 posted 07/03/12 7:53pm
Cinny
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vainandy said:
Cerebus said:
Because I want some pussy. Duh.
And I want some dick and you sure as hell ain't gonna get some unless you let somebody know you want it.
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Reply #95 posted 07/03/12 8:03pm
Timmy84 |
vainandy said:
Hell, he's been out.
I just love how he said it nonchalantly. I just hate that some folks think they got to be mad about that. Like Cooper didn't say he was gay to please folks who think he was "covering up" when he really wasn't. |
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Reply #96 posted 07/03/12 8:06pm
vainandy |
Timmy84 said:
vainandy said:
Hell, he's been out.
I just love how he said it nonchalantly. I just hate that some folks think they got to be mad about that. Like Cooper didn't say he was gay to please folks who think he was "covering up" when he really wasn't.
I remember him coming out publicly already either last year or the year before. Andy is a four letter word. |
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Reply #97 posted 07/03/12 8:07pm
Spinlight |
vainandy said:
Timmy84 said:
I just love how he said it nonchalantly. I just hate that some folks think they got to be mad about that. Like Cooper didn't say he was gay to please folks who think he was "covering up" when he really wasn't.
I remember him coming out publicly already either last year or the year before.
Definitely not. While he's participated in discussions on gay topics, he's definitely not come out before now in a public manner. |
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Reply #98 posted 07/03/12 8:10pm
lazycrockett
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He was never in, he just never felt the need to make a grandious statement to the media. The gay's were aware of his sexuality decades ago. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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Reply #99 posted 07/03/12 8:32pm
vainandy |
Spinlight said:
vainandy said:
I remember him coming out publicly already either last year or the year before.
Definitely not. While he's participated in discussions on gay topics, he's definitely not come out before now in a public manner.
I remember seeing him on a website and there were pictures of both him and his boyfriend. If I hadn't seen that previously, I would have paid more attention to this latest news because he's not someone that I suspected of being gay. Andy is a four letter word. |
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Reply #100 posted 07/03/12 11:17pm
babynoz |
Timmy84 said:
imago said:
I absolutely hate his giggle.
Also, I don't get why folks are so attracted to this guy.
But, he has the nicest suits.
They always call him a "silver fox". I admit I was trying to see the attraction too... I don't get it anymore.
What? He is adorable,
And his nickname suits him perfectly. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. |
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Reply #101 posted 07/04/12 12:47am
SUPRMAN |
smoothcriminal12 said:
Recently, however, I’ve begun to consider whether the unintended outcomes of maintaining my privacy outweigh personal and professional principle. It’s become clear to me that by remaining silent on certain aspects of my personal life for so long, I have given some the mistaken impression that I am trying to hide something - something that makes me uncomfortable, ashamed or even afraid. This is distressing because it is simply not true.
I’ve also been reminded recently that while as a society we are moving toward greater inclusion and equality for all people, the tide of history only advances when people make themselves fully visible. There continue to be far too many incidences of bullying of young people, as well as discrimination and violence against people of all ages, based on their sexual orientation, and I believe there is value in making clear where I stand.
The fact is, I'm gay, always have been, always will be, and I couldn’t be any more happy, comfortable with myself, and proud.
I have always been very open and honest about this part of my life with my friends, my family, and my colleagues. In a perfect world, I don't think it's anyone else's business, but I do think there is value in standing up and being counted. I’m not an activist, but I am a human being and I don't give that up by being a journalist.
http://andrewsullivan.the...m-gay.html
Is there a news story here?
Who didn't know? I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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Reply #102 posted 07/04/12 12:48am
SUPRMAN |
Timmy84 said:
imago said:
I absolutely hate his giggle.
Also, I don't get why folks are so attracted to this guy.
But, he has the nicest suits.
They always call him a "silver fox". I admit I was trying to see the attraction too... I don't get it anymore.
I think he's attractive. Moreso in person. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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Reply #103 posted 07/04/12 12:50am
SUPRMAN |
dJJ said:
I never heard about him. So, had to look him up
I think it's great that he issued this statement. It sends a very clear message, preventing it to become some 'gossip' issue. I think this statement is very important, and I hope many will follow his example. When you manage your outing to the media yourself, it is clear that the media will treat it with much more dignitiy than when you try to hide it. When a celebirty tries to hide it, as if it is dirty, than the media will treat it like dirt.
For many kids who struggle with their sexuality these kind of messages are very important. It sends the message that being gay is not something to feel ashamed abou. And knowing that high profile gay people are treated with respect, makes these kids feel less awkward about themselves.
He did not come out. I guess you never saw pictures of him and his boyfriends?
It's been an open secret for at least 20 years. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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Reply #104 posted 07/04/12 12:51am
SUPRMAN |
FnkyManifesto7 said:
Identity said:
I didn't know he was employed by the Fox News Channel.
...
[Edited 7/2/12 9:48am]
CNN's as bad as FOX. All mainstream media is biased.
Or you have a bias against mainstream media. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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Reply #105 posted 07/04/12 12:57am
SUPRMAN |
Deadflow3r said:
This is a bit like George Michael coming out; why bother except that gay men may think your avoidance of actually speaking about it is due to feeling ashamed of your sexuality. Both men could "pass" as bi I guess but few where ever fooled that they were straight.
What does pass as bi mean?
I am a masculine gay man that a lot of people don't assume is gay.
I've dated and slept with women but I am not bi, definitely gay. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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Reply #106 posted 07/04/12 12:59am
dJJ |
SUPRMAN said:
dJJ said:
I never heard about him. So, had to look him up
I think it's great that he issued this statement. It sends a very clear message, preventing it to become some 'gossip' issue. I think this statement is very important, and I hope many will follow his example. When you manage your outing to the media yourself, it is clear that the media will treat it with much more dignitiy than when you try to hide it. When a celebirty tries to hide it, as if it is dirty, than the media will treat it like dirt.
For many kids who struggle with their sexuality these kind of messages are very important. It sends the message that being gay is not something to feel ashamed abou. And knowing that high profile gay people are treated with respect, makes these kids feel less awkward about themselves.
He did not come out. I guess you never saw pictures of him and his boyfriends?
It's been an open secret for at least 20 years.
I meant being clear about it in public. Not being open about it, can imply being shamed about it.
Exactly that is the reason for his statement and I think it's a great support for many struggling gay people.
99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. |
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Reply #107 posted 07/04/12 1:59am
purplethunder3 121 |
Wow. What a revelation. I'm so surprised. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 |
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Reply #108 posted 07/04/12 2:14am
Lammastide |
I just realized I omitted something: Anderson Cooper is, indeed, hot.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” |
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Reply #109 posted 07/04/12 2:18am
Cerebus |
Lammastide said:
I just realized I omitted something: Anderson Cooper is, indeed, hot.
I think he's gay, too. |
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Reply #110 posted 07/04/12 2:20am
Timmy84 |
Cerebus said:
Lammastide said:
I just realized I omitted something: Anderson Cooper is, indeed, hot.
I think he's gay, too.
I heard he's actually a homosapien...
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Reply #111 posted 07/04/12 2:26am
Cerebus |
Timmy84 said:
Cerebus said:
I think he's gay, too.
I heard he's actually a homosapien...
Who enjoys a good penis from time to time. |
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Reply #112 posted 07/04/12 2:28am
Timmy84 |
Cerebus said:
Timmy84 said:
I heard he's actually a homosapien...
Who enjoys a good penis from time to time.
That too. |
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Reply #113 posted 07/04/12 2:30am
purplethunder3 121 |
"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0 |
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Reply #114 posted 07/04/12 2:35am
Cerebus |
purplethunder3121 said:
Him too. They could get together and enjoy each other's penises. It's a magical world we live in. |
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Reply #115 posted 07/04/12 2:52am
babynoz |
Lammastide said:
I just realized I omitted something: Anderson Cooper is, indeed, hot.
That's right bro...the Silver Fox is downright adorable, Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. |
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Reply #116 posted 07/04/12 6:42am
EmeraldSkies |
I thought he already did? Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach |
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Reply #117 posted 07/04/12 7:16am
johnart |
Gunsnhalen said:
You guys may attack me for this but hear me out. I myself as a gay men can see why some people may not want to automatically come out.
Because whether we like it or not being gay is seen as a big thing when it shouldn't be.... And if i was releasing music or movies or just any kind of work i would want to be known for that work. Not for oh that gay guy who does this or that, it's true that once you come out you are seen as a ''gay artist'' And some artists want to appeal to everyone not just gay.
George Michael appealed to everyone but when he came out his music was quickly labeled as ''gay'' same with Elton.. and i remember Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys saying he somewhat regrets coming out when he did. Because he didn't want PSB to be seen as stritctly a gay band.
So idk i can see why some artists or news people or whoever may feel the need to not make it a big announcement for reasons like that. It would be nice if someone coming out wasn't headline material as it's just a purely natural thing....
But we have a long way to go before that happens sadly
I half-get your point. I suppose I get it fully, actually, just feel that gay folk should not be so resentful of being labeled "gay artists". Many Black artists do quite well, appealing to their own community and well beyond. I don't see too many who resist being called (or calling themselves) Black artists.
I find it kind of lame that any artist should regret their coming out due to being labeled a Gay artist. There is plenty of $$ in the Gay community (in the event that one should become a niche act) and the Pet Shop Boys are not hurting for a following, so get over it Mr. Tennant.
As a visual artist I WISH that I had just a small fraction of the following some of these folk do. Most of my work up to this point has not been particularly "gay"-themed (mostly women, music and Latin themes) but of course I am a Gay artist just as much as I am a Latino artist or a male artist. These are all parts of me which inform my work. |
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Reply #118 posted 07/04/12 10:38am
robertlove |
Gunsnhalen said:
You guys may attack me for this but hear me out. I myself as a gay men can see why some people may not want to automatically come out.
Because whether we like it or not being gay is seen as a big thing when it shouldn't be.... And if i was releasing music or movies or just any kind of work i would want to be known for that work. Not for oh that gay guy who does this or that, it's true that once you come out you are seen as a ''gay artist'' And some artists want to appeal to everyone not just gay.
George Michael appealed to everyone but when he came out his music was quickly labeled as ''gay'' same with Elton.. and i remember Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys saying he somewhat regrets coming out when he did. Because he didn't want PSB to be seen as stritctly a gay band.
So idk i can see why some artists or news people or whoever may feel the need to not make it a big announcement for reasons like that. It would be nice if someone coming out wasn't headline material as it's just a purely natural thing....
But we have a long way to go before that happens sadly
Didn't GM make a very gay video after he came out? I really think when GM had just said he had a boyfriend, people would have made not such a big deal out of it....actually most people knew that already. It was the toilet scene and George Michael who started to act very gay after he came out!
Same goes with Elton John....wasn't he on divas live?
Most people knew Freddy Mercury was gay (ok, bisexual) but he was never labeled as a gay artist. |
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Reply #119 posted 07/04/12 11:26am
purplethunder3 121 |
robertlove said:
Gunsnhalen said:
You guys may attack me for this but hear me out. I myself as a gay men can see why some people may not want to automatically come out.
Because whether we like it or not being gay is seen as a big thing when it shouldn't be.... And if i was releasing music or movies or just any kind of work i would want to be known for that work. Not for oh that gay guy who does this or that, it's true that once you come out you are seen as a ''gay artist'' And some artists want to appeal to everyone not just gay.
George Michael appealed to everyone but when he came out his music was quickly labeled as ''gay'' same with Elton.. and i remember Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys saying he somewhat regrets coming out when he did. Because he didn't want PSB to be seen as stritctly a gay band.
So idk i can see why some artists or news people or whoever may feel the need to not make it a big announcement for reasons like that. It would be nice if someone coming out wasn't headline material as it's just a purely natural thing....
But we have a long way to go before that happens sadly
Didn't GM make a very gay video after he came out? I really think when GM had just said he had a boyfriend, people would have made not such a big deal out of it....actually most people knew that already. It was the toilet scene and George Michael who started to act very gay after he came out!
Same goes with Elton John....wasn't he on divas live?
Most people knew Freddy Mercury was gay (ok, bisexual) but he was never labeled as a gay artist.
Freddy Mercury was bi?! Since when? I always knew him as gay for decades... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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