SUPRMAN said:

nursev said:

Indeed. They did a great job with such a terrible case-hope the victims have some closure now.

I understand the sentiment, but I don't see how it's possible. How is knowing he's going to jail, change any of what happened? Age, not the law, put an end to his crimes.

Nice to see him in jail where he belongs, but I don't know that it would be enough to move on if I hadn't already.

It doesn't change what has happened, but it can be the start of the healing process. The victims have realized an even greater strength they have, than to have just survived the abuse. They had the strength and courage to stand before the man that traumatized them, hurt them, and point a finger at him and say "He did this to me". They have the knowledge that they have stopped him from doing this to any more children.

A part of the pain of abuse is, as a victim of abuse, accepting the blame and the shame of the abuse. These young man have stepped forward and have essentially said, "I am not to blame for this and this is not my shame to carry. Those belong to Sandusky." There is a sense of closure in that, in knowing he is no longer walking the streets, no longer hurting any other young boys, and a release of the self-blame and shame and placing it where it belongs.

Having that kind of closure does not mean these young men have much further to go in healing these wounds, because they do have a much longer road to travel in order to heal completely. But they can stand a little taller, knowing they were able to face the nightmare of their childhood and ensure that nightmare is not visited onto other boys by the same man. These young men are truly heros for coming forward, for not letting their fear hold them back, and for the strength they have shown themselves to contain.

This is the best news I've heard since the beginning of this story and trial. He's going right where he needs to be.

I don't care if he's 70 or not..they're going get him in jail.

SUPRMAN said:

kewlschool said:

They got Dahmer they could get Sandusky. Since it's high profile, he will probably be killed.(I know one's a mass murderer and the other is a molester.)

I don't know why everyone is so sure he'll be raped and/or killed in prison. Legally, neither should be allowed to happen.

While I wouldn't rule out Sandusky being sexually assaulted in some manner or other, I don't think rape in the conventional sense is as prevalent as some people may think in prison (certainly not saying it doesn't happen, especially in regards to convicted pedophiles). I think it's more likely he'll be found with his head bashed in, or hanging at the end of a makeshift rope.

Although he's just as likely to spend many miserable years alone, with his thoughts, in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. In either case, he won't be raping any more boys.

More disturbing than all this (to me) is the fact that there are many more thousands of pedophiles out there tonight, who have never been caught, or suspected, currently victimizing more children as we participate in this discussion at this very moment.

Nevertheless, tonight, Sandusky is one less.

Rape happens in prison. A lot.

Sandusky will not be in general population.

His sentence would be ended FAR too soon if they put him in general population.

He'll be in permanent solitary confinement, the same way death row inmates are held. He'll have a regular cell to himself that he'll get out of for an hour a day. The rest of the time he'll be locked up.

It may not matter, though, as it seems he's already on a suicide watch. I won't be surprised if he doesn't even make it to his sentencing.

Glad to hear the verdict-wasn't the trial kinda speedy, though?

SUPRMAN said:

PDogz said:

SUPRMAN said:

I don't know why everyone is so sure he'll be raped and/or killed in prison. Legally, neither should be allowed to happen.

While I wouldn't rule out Sandusky being sexually assaulted in some manner or other, I don't think rape in the conventional sense is as prevalent as some people may think in prison (certainly not saying it doesn't happen, especially in regards to convicted pedophiles). I think it's more likely he'll be found with his head bashed in, or hanging at the end of a makeshift rope.

Although he's just as likely to spend many miserable years alone, with his thoughts, in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. In either case, he won't be raping any more boys.

More disturbing than all this (to me) is the fact that there are many more thousands of pedophiles out there tonight, who have never been caught, or suspected, currently victimizing more children as we participate in this discussion at this very moment.

Nevertheless, tonight, Sandusky is one less.

Research has shown that a pedophile typically has abused approximately 150 children before they are caught the first time. This is the reason the recidivism rate is so high with pedophilia. They know they were able to do it multiple times without being caught, before getting caught with the one child. And yes, the thought of the many pedophiles and child abusers that are out there doing this to children right now, is very disturbing. Statistically, 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys will be sexually assaulted before the age of 18. Of those that are abused, and extremely high number of those are abused before the age of 10. It boggles the mind what people are capable of doing to children and I lived through it myself. I know the hell of it and to know even one more child has to live that hell makes me sick.

aardvark15 said:

SUPRMAN said:

I don't know why everyone is so sure he'll be raped and/or killed in prison. Legally, neither should be allowed to happen.

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It's prison, they aren't in there for doing things legally

It should also, by definition, be a controlled environment.

I guess people can't imagine someone wishing that on them if they went to jail or prison.

Presumably in a belief that they will never be there.

But innocent people serve time in jail/prison too.

Regardless of what a person is convicted of being abused/killed in prison should not be part of their sentence.

I read last night that he could actually end up in general population and he'd have to stay there until he was 79. Pretty sure he won't make it to 79 if that's the case. If he does he'll then get transferred to an old folks prison.

SUPRMAN said:

Regardless of what a person is convicted of being abused/killed in prison should not be part of their sentence.

And yet that's exactly what being sentenced to time in an underfunded, overpopulated state prison in the U.S. is, abuse. The day-to-day is abusive, to the extreme. I have some past acquaintances in San Quentin and Pelican Bay. Everything that you see in movies and documentaries about prison life, that shit is for real, only worse. That's why so few people who become part of the system are ever truly "rehabilitated".

aardvark15 said:

SUPRMAN said:

I don't know why everyone is so sure he'll be raped and/or killed in prison. Legally, neither should be allowed to happen.

[Edited 6/23/12 9:04am]

It's prison, they aren't in there for doing things legally

Exactly! And if they want to get at you, they will get at you. Solitary confinement does not mean safe.

Cerebus said:

SUPRMAN said:

Regardless of what a person is convicted of being abused/killed in prison should not be part of their sentence.

And yet that's exactly what being sentenced to time in an underfunded, overpopulated state prison in the U.S. is, abuse. The day-to-day is abusive, to the extreme. I have some past acquaintances in San Quentin and Pelican Bay. Everything that you see in movies and documentaries about prison life, that shit is for real, only worse. That's why so few people who become part of the system are ever truly "rehabilitated".

People commit suicide all the time if they leave. Its a horrible experience. Its even worse in other countries.

aardvark15 said:

^ When it comes to child rapists and pedophiles, there's never a "rational solution". Either let them suffer in jail for their actions or inject them with something and end it all.

Timmy84 said:

my brother is a maximum security prison gaurd. (a super max actually) it is a very strict environment but they are dealing with extremely experienced criminals who are also extremely experienced inmates....they know the weak spots, they know how to get things done....and they WILL get to this sandusky, mark my words.

Thank God.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

aardvark15 said:

SUPRMAN said: It's prison, they aren't in there for doing things legally

Exactly! And if they want to get at you, they will get at you. Solitary confinement does not mean safe.

It should though. If it is not, that fault lies with the prison administration.

Shorty said:

my brother is a maximum security prison gaurd. (a super max actually) it is a very strict environment but they are dealing with extremely experienced criminals who are also extremely experienced inmates....they know the weak spots, they know how to get things done....and they WILL get to this sandusky, mark my words.

IF that happens, someoone in the prison administration should be held accountable and likewise imprisoned.

SUPRMAN said:

Shorty said:

my brother is a maximum security prison gaurd. (a super max actually) it is a very strict environment but they are dealing with extremely experienced criminals who are also extremely experienced inmates....they know the weak spots, they know how to get things done....and they WILL get to this sandusky, mark my words.

IF that happens, someoone in the prison administration should be held accountable and likewise imprisoned.

Just be lucky there not crammed together in one room with no bathroom and end up having to poop and piss on the floor of the packed cell. It's disgusting but the truth is that's the way it is in some countries. Compared to several other countries, the U.S prisions have it made.

damn, he always looked like a pedo/creep and GUESS WHAT??? HE IS A PEDO/CREEP!!

JoeTyler said:

damn, he always looked like a pedo/creep

Which is the same thing I think to myself every time I see Senator Mitch McConnell from Kentucky.

PDogz said:

JoeTyler said:

damn, he always looked like a pedo/creep

Which is the same thing I think to myself every time I see Senator Mitch McConnell from Kentucky.

looks creepy...

aardvark15 said:

SUPRMAN said:

IF that happens, someoone in the prison administration should be held accountable and likewise imprisoned.

Just be lucky there not crammed together in one room with no bathroom and end up having to poop and piss on the floor of the packed cell. It's disgusting but the truth is that's the way it is in some countries. Compared to several other countries, the U.S prisions have it made.

Sandusky isn't facing time in a foreign prison.

To suggest being beaten, abused and raped is relative is a non-starter.

Violating the law in the U.S. in regard to prisoner care is illegal and should result in more prosecution until it stops being a damn fucking joke.

Tittypants said:

I fucking hate pedophiles!!!!! It would be nice to execute "people" like this fucker!

Oh hell yeah. Jerry Sandusky should have been given the death penalty without parole for the damage he has done to those poor victims.

TonyVanDam said:

Tittypants said:

I fucking hate pedophiles!!!!! It would be nice to execute "people" like this fucker!

Oh hell yeah. Jerry Sandusky should have been given the death penalty without parole for the damage he has done to those poor victims.

What are you talking about? He won't be sentenced until September.

So uh guys...

What do you think about the theory that pedophiles need help controlling their urges? I read that pedophiles do not directly translate into child molestors but rather they're born that way and need extensive counselling to be proper members of society. In doing so, they'd be able to control those urges.

Or so they say. I personally don't think it's possible but I'm curious to hear what you guys have to say.