imago said:

Dave1992 said:

Agree 100%.

We're destined to agree on this.

Swear to gawd, Dave , if I was a woman, and 20 years younger, my tight pert little pink pussy would be pouring out a pussy-nami like you wouldn't believe

~dave1992 win~

I'd take you the way you are right now, Dan. I can't see much of a difference between the hot Asian chicks and those ladyboys anyway.

JoeTyler said:

tinaz said:

Im curious.. those of you who are poo-pooing all this love business, are you single?

hmm, it depends on what you think "single" means...

if by "single" you mean a nerd jerking off to porn and being ignored by the hot gals of the beach and envying the couples that kiss tenderly on the street. then NO, I'm not single...

if by single you mean a free individual who can meet, talk to and/or have sex with any woman/girl/man (why not) (if he/she's also interested of course) without fear of a broken heart or fear of becoming a beast of burden, then YES I'M SINGLE...

dJJ said:

Big question; are we single because we poo-poo on love or has love poo-pooed on us, so we stay sinle?

The former.

^^^^^ ~faints!~

dJJ said:

I like being alone. And most of the days, I bless myself not having to deal with a man or kids. However, I also don't have a lot money. So, I can't afford to go out to the theatre, movies or concert every week. And that can be a lonely.

You like being alone. So do I. What's wrong with that?

I rarely go out to the theatre, movies or concerts and I never feel lonely. If I feel the need to communicate with someone and family or friends aren't available, there's always the Internet!

I just find it hard to go through life alone, suffering just because I'm alife.

Ultimately, we all come in alone and go out alone.

A destiny would relief my suffering, because then it's at least for a valid cause.

I don't believe that believing in destiny is the cure for suffering. I would recommend looking into Buddhist philosophy.

imago said:

^^^^^ ~faints!~

Ace said:

dJJ said:

I like being alone. And most of the days, I bless myself not having to deal with a man or kids. However, I also don't have a lot money. So, I can't afford to go out to the theatre, movies or concert every week. And that can be a lonely.

You like being alone. So do I. What's wrong with that?

I rarely go out to the theatre, movies or concerts and I never feel lonely. If I feel the need to communicate with someone and family or friends aren't available, there's always the Internet!

Ultimately, we all come in alone and go out alone.

A destiny would relief my suffering, because then it's at least for a valid cause.

I don't believe that believing in destiny is the cure for suffering. I would recommend looking into Buddhist philosophy.

I like being alone, however, I also love theater, concerts, movies, dancing etc.

I'm familiar with Buddha's philosophy. I know it offers relief from suffering.

I'll go back to meditation and yoga, you'll notice if it will work in a while

tinaz said:

Love is a human illusion.

Graycap23 said:

Love is a human illusion.

I just got a text that Londonboy is coming to Amsterdam for work!!!

It's the end of August and he'll stay with me and will take some time of so we can have a sort of holiday together. And lots of sex.

I'm happy when good shit happens

Ace said:

Graycap23 said:

Love is a human illusion.

Oh, I don't think so. Love is real alright. Chemicals in the brain are real, call it "love", "obsession", whatever...but it's real.

The human illusion is what is expected when it comes to feelings of love.

I'm trying to get past all the ions of crap that have been the definition of what love is suppose to be. I know it's based on something real but getting to that is a pain.

JustErin said:

Ace said:

Oh, I don't think so. Love is real alright. Chemicals in the brain are real, call it "love", "obsession", whatever...but it's real.

The human illusion is what is expected when it comes to feelings of love.

dJJ said:

I just got a text that Londonboy is coming to Amsterdam for work!!!

It's the end of August and he'll stay with me and will take some time of so we can have a sort of holiday together. And lots of sex.

I'm happy when good shit happens

I thought he wasn't wanting to keep it going, or at least didn't feel the same way back...?

Are you hoping to just win him over while he stays with you?

Are you cool with maybe just being used (or maybe you're just using him as well) and you're prepared to deal with the temporary happiness he might give you?

JustErin said:

Ace said:

Oh, I don't think so. Love is real alright. Chemicals in the brain are real, call it "love", "obsession", whatever...but it's real.

The human illusion is what is expected when it comes to feelings of love.

Really? Why is it that the same person u "love" on your wedding day u "HATE" on your divorce day?

But then you hear about these people, such as cases in some arranged marriages who say they learned to love each other and can't imagine being without that person. I. am. not. avocating. arranged. marriages. I'm just curious what that is. Is that something at some other level of thinking or perception.

Graycap23 said:

JustErin said:

Oh, I don't think so. Love is real alright. Chemicals in the brain are real, call it "love", "obsession", whatever...but it's real.

The human illusion is what is expected when it comes to feelings of love.

Really? Why is it that the same person u "love" on your wedding day u "HATE" on your divorce day?

You really don't know anything about the chemistry of 'love' and it's stages in the brain?

It actually makes complete sense how you can feel love and hate for the same person at different stages.

morningsong said:

But then you hear about these people, such as cases in some arranged marriages who say they learned to love each other and can't imagine being without that person. I. am. not. avocating. arranged. marriages. I'm just curious what that is. Is that something at some other level of thinking or perception.

JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:

Really? Why is it that the same person u "love" on your wedding day u "HATE" on your divorce day?

You really don't know anything about the chemistry of 'love' and it's stages in the brain?

It actually makes complete sense how you can feel love and hate for the same person at different stages.

JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:

Really? Why is it that the same person u "love" on your wedding day u "HATE" on your divorce day?

You really don't know anything about the chemistry of 'love' and it's stages in the brain?

It actually makes complete sense how you can feel love and hate for the same person at different stages.

I know this..............it is strickly a human trait.

Graycap23 said:

JustErin said:

You really don't know anything about the chemistry of 'love' and it's stages in the brain?

It actually makes complete sense how you can feel love and hate for the same person at different stages.

I know this..............it is strickly a human trait.

The chemicals are probably shared in the animal kingdom (I mean, aren't there creatures that mate for life and sometimes get ill & die if their partner dies?).

But the way we process the information and deal with the "emotions" is strictly human I think.

JustErin said:

dJJ said:

I just got a text that Londonboy is coming to Amsterdam for work!!!

It's the end of August and he'll stay with me and will take some time of so we can have a sort of holiday together. And lots of sex.

I'm happy when good shit happens

I thought he wasn't wanting to keep it going, or at least didn't feel the same way back...?

Are you hoping to just win him over while he stays with you?

Are you cool with maybe just being used (or maybe you're just using him as well) and you're prepared to deal with the temporary happiness he might give you?

I have no idea.

We've been texting and mailing, and the tone has been friendly, joking and lightly. He has never said anything about if or what he feels for me.

For me it's just that I've been confused because I couldn't get over him. So, I'm excited to see him, also to check if my feelings are still there when I see him.

I think (maybe wishfull?) he feels the same way. He was approached for this thing in Amsterdam, and he checked with me what I thought of it. If it wasn't for me, I don't think he would have accepted this offer to go to A'dam for a couple of days.

I don't think he is using me, nor that I use him. I think this offers us a chance to see eachother again, without any heavy stuff attached to it. Because the job is a good excuse.

I don't know if I'm prepared for just a little temporary happiness. The only thing I allow myself to do is to see how it develops and go with the flow. Maybe I'll be very hurt after it. I'll take the risk, because I want to find out how it will be if we see eachother again.

In the little time we were together, I think we didn't give eachother a chance. He wants to have children. And I don't know if I want to. The talks were very serious from the start, about kids, about who is going to move to which country etcetera. When he broke up with me, he probably thought it was a good thing for both of us.

It's just that we both haven't been able to just move on and set our minds to another partner.

I mean, I did move on, in the sense that I'm making decisions about my life, without taking him in consideration. E.g. I'm selling my house so I can move to a smaller one etcetera. And I have no clue how it would have to work if we would get together again. And I don't want to worry about that now.

I just want to see him again and see how we feel about eachother.

dJJ said:

I just got a text that Londonboy is coming to Amsterdam for work!!!

It's the end of August and he'll stay with me and will take some time of so we can have a sort of holiday together. And lots of sex.

I'm happy when good shit happens

JustErin said:

morningsong said:

But then you hear about these people, such as cases in some arranged marriages who say they learned to love each other and can't imagine being without that person. I. am. not. avocating. arranged. marriages. I'm just curious what that is. Is that something at some other level of thinking or perception.

I just wanted to be clear.

Graycap23 said:

JustErin said:

Oh, I don't think so. Love is real alright. Chemicals in the brain are real, call it "love", "obsession", whatever...but it's real.

The human illusion is what is expected when it comes to feelings of love.

Really? Why is it that the same person u "love" on your wedding day u "HATE" on your divorce day?

Now, that is a good fucking question!

...Wait a minute! It was obviously pre-destined that you would meet this person, fall in love with them and then, eventually, hate their fucking guts!

I love love!

Ace said:

dJJ said:

I just got a text that Londonboy is coming to Amsterdam for work!!!

It's the end of August and he'll stay with me and will take some time of so we can have a sort of holiday together. And lots of sex.

I'm happy when good shit happens

I know. I could be heading for disaster.

I just am thrilled to see him again. And see how it goes.

I won't see him untill the end of August, though. So, I have another 2.5 months of Buddhist practice to train myself.

dJJ said:

Ace said:

I know. I could be heading for disaster.

I just am thrilled to see him again. And see how it goes.

I won't see him untill the end of August, though. So, I have another 2.5 months of Buddhist practice to train myself.

"If other people can make you happy, then they can also make you unhappy." (words of wisdom from About a Boy).

I don't believe in destiny, but I do believe in love.

Love's not an illusion or a lie we tell ourselves. Love absolutely exists between family, friends and, of course, lovers. Love's important.

Relationships can be hard work, though. I don't believe anyone is "meant" to be together. It takes loyalty, honesty, communication and, of course, commitment. For some folks that's hard work and for some it's not so difficult. Sometimes over the course of many years together it's been easy at times and harder at others.

If a lover/spouse/partner breaks a promise to you, well, that's awful. That doesn't mean no one ever loved each other or that it didn't exist to begin with. It means people make mistakes and suck sometimes.

And just cause you love someone doesn't mean they'll love you back. And if they don't, that doesn't mean YOU don't feel love. Love's still real.