I'll tell you what I have felt, though.

Lying on the ground looking at stars, I have felt the vulnerability of being stuck to the side of a rock that is hurtling through space.

yes. when i feel the wind on me i know it is in part caused by something called the 'coriolis effect' which is the result of the earth's spin. so in a way yes

NDRU said:

No, but I can hear hearts beating

NDRU said:

I'll tell you what I have felt, though.

Lying on the ground looking at stars, I have felt the vulnerability of being stuck to the side of a rock that is hurtling through space.

gravity is a bitch, I've said this for years...

XxAxX said:

yes. when i feel the wind on me i know it is in part caused by something called the 'coriolis effect' which is the result of the earth's spin. so in a way yes

Very good try, but still no.

Because you feel the side effect of a medication does not mean that the medication itself is doing anything.

The wind speed and slows unlike the Earth's rotation (well, technically it does enough to measure, but not enough to begin to sense) so it is not 'in a way' a proxy for the Earth's rotation as you imply.

Furthermore the Earth would still have wind even if it didn't rotate.

SUPRMAN said:

XxAxX said:

yes. when i feel the wind on me i know it is in part caused by something called the 'coriolis effect' which is the result of the earth's spin. so in a way yes

Very good try, but still no.

Because you feel the side effect of a medication does not mean that the medication itself is doing anything.

The wind speed and slows unlike the Earth's rotation (well, technically it does enough to measure, but not enough to begin to sense) so it is not 'in a way' a proxy for the Earth's rotation as you imply.

Furthermore the Earth would still have wind even if it didn't rotate.

i did say in part, and i was correct. unless you know more than these guys??

Coriolis Force - an artifact of the earth's rotation

Once air has been set in motion by the pressure gradient force, it undergoes an apparent deflection from its path, as seen by an observer on the earth. This apparent deflection is called the "Coriolis force" and is a result of the earth's rotation.

As air moves from high to low pressure in the northern hemisphere, it is deflected to the right by the Coriolis force. In the southern hemisphere, air moving from high to low pressure is deflected to the left by the Coriolis force.

The amount of deflection the air makes is directly related to both the speed at which the air is moving and its latitude. Therefore, slowly blowing winds will be deflected only a small amount, while stronger winds will be deflected more. Likewise, winds blowing closer to the poles will be deflected more than winds at the same speed closer to the equator. The Coriolis force is zero right at the equator.

This process is further demonstrated by the movie below. (more at link) http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc..../crls.rxml

[Edited 6/15/12 9:59am]

You're still feeling the air moving, not the Earth. I mean, the word "air" in relation to movement, moving and motion is mentioned in what you posted at least five times. The effect, Coriolis Force, is a deflection of air because the Earth is moving. You feel the deflected air, not the movement of the Earth.

Edit: Effect, not affect. I can't believe I still use the wrong one after 30 plus years of reading and writing.

[Edited 6/15/12 16:43pm]

yes, we definitely feel the effects of the earth moving, such as day and night, the seasons etc. But they are still effects

Cerebus said:

You're still feeling the air moving, not the Earth. I mean, the word "air" in relation to movement, moving and motion is mentioned in what you posted at least five times. The affect, Coriolis Force, is a deflection of air because the Earth is moving. You feel the deflected air, not the movement of the Earth.

jesus god. why would you want to argue soemthing this stupid

here is what i said. i will bold the relevent bits to make it easier

yes. when i feel the wind on me i know it is in part caused by something called the 'coriolis effect' which is the result of the earth's spin. so in a way yes

XxAxX said:

Cerebus said:

You're still feeling the air moving, not the Earth. I mean, the word "air" in relation to movement, moving and motion is mentioned in what you posted at least five times. The affect, Coriolis Force, is a deflection of air because the Earth is moving. You feel the deflected air, not the movement of the Earth.

jesus god. why would you want to argue soemthing this stupid

did you forget where you are?

NDRU said:

XxAxX said:

jesus god. why would you want to argue soemthing this stupid

did you forget where you are?

crap. in fact i did

XxAxX said:

Cerebus said:

You're still feeling the air moving, not the Earth. I mean, the word "air" in relation to movement, moving and motion is mentioned in what you posted at least five times. The affect, Coriolis Force, is a deflection of air because the Earth is moving. You feel the deflected air, not the movement of the Earth.

jesus god. why would you want to argue soemthing this stupid

here is what i said. i will bold the relevent bits to make it easier

yes. when i feel the wind on me i know it is in part caused by something called the 'coriolis effect' which is the result of the earth's spin. so in a way yes

Why aren't you asking yourself that?

More than one person stated, "no, you can't feel the Earth move".

YOU are arguing otherwise.

And you're wrong. There is no "in a way". The effect you are referring to is CLEARLY feeling air moving, not the Earth. The language is very plain, so I'm not sure how you could interpret it any other way. Feeling air move, regardless of the cause, and feeling the Earth move are NOT the same thing.

If you don't want a response, then don't post an contradictory comment to begin with. Duh.

XxAxX said:

NDRU said:

did you forget where you are?

crap. in fact i did

Like this matters. Don't try to look smart by posting something as fact that is anything but and nobody will bother you with a response. But if you post something that is clearly wrong, you know somebody is going to have something to say about it. It's not like this is a new concept.

Cerebus said:

XxAxX said:

jesus god. why would you want to argue soemthing this stupid

here is what i said. i will bold the relevent bits to make it easier

yes. when i feel the wind on me i know it is in part caused by something called the 'coriolis effect' which is the result of the earth's spin. so in a way yes

Why aren't you asking yourself that?

More than one person stated, "no, you can't feel the Earth move".

YOU are arguing otherwise.

And you're wrong. There is no "in a way". The effect you are referring to is CLEARLY feeling air moving, not the Earth. The language is very plain, so I'm not sure how you could interpret it any other way. Feeling air move, regardless of the cause, and feeling the Earth move are NOT the same thing.

If you don't want a response, then don't post an contradictory comment to begin with. Duh.

oh ehm gee. you are so like genius. i just can't facedown your dedication and utter commitment to not opening your mind even a teensy bit. kudos to you!!!!

XxAxX said:

Cerebus said:

Why aren't you asking yourself that?

More than one person stated, "no, you can't feel the Earth move".

YOU are arguing otherwise.

And you're wrong. There is no "in a way". The effect you are referring to is CLEARLY feeling air moving, not the Earth. The language is very plain, so I'm not sure how you could interpret it any other way. Feeling air move, regardless of the cause, and feeling the Earth move are NOT the same thing.

If you don't want a response, then don't post an contradictory comment to begin with. Duh.

oh ehm gee. you are so like genius. i just can't facedown your dedication and utter commitment to not opening your mind even a teensy bit. kudos to you!!!!

OK smartass. Not sure why you have a problem with me in particular right now when I'm posting the same way I've posted for the last nine years. Regardless, your flippant attitude has no effect on me what-so-ever. If you're not intelligent or mature enough to have an adult conversation about science, that's your problem, not mine. Sometimes you're wrong, that's life.

Cerebus said:

XxAxX said:

oh ehm gee. you are so like genius. i just can't facedown your dedication and utter commitment to not opening your mind even a teensy bit. kudos to you!!!!

OK smartass. Not sure why you have a problem with me in particular right now when I'm posting the same way I've posted for the last nine years. Regardless, your flippant attitude has no effect on me what-so-ever. If you're not intelligent or mature enough to have an adult conversation about science, that's your problem, not mine. Sometimes you're wrong, that's life.

mature enough? i got a good ten years on your ass sonny. but regardless, enough is enough, over and out

XxAxX said:

Cerebus said:

OK smartass. Not sure why you have a problem with me in particular right now when I'm posting the same way I've posted for the last nine years. Regardless, your flippant attitude has no effect on me what-so-ever. If you're not intelligent or mature enough to have an adult conversation about science, that's your problem, not mine. Sometimes you're wrong, that's life.

mature enough? i got a good ten years on your ass sonny. but regardless, enough is enough, over and out

What does that have to do with ANYTHING? Did you take up a new drug recently or something? Seriously, we've joked around more times than I can count and now you're on some sort of weird ass serious trip. Cerebus doesn't recognize the user known as XxAxX.

Cerebus said:

XxAxX said:

mature enough? i got a good ten years on your ass sonny. but regardless, enough is enough, over and out

What does that have to do with ANYTHING? Did you take up a new drug recently or something? Seriously, we've joked around more times than I can count and now you're on some sort of weird ass serious trip. Cerebus doesn't recognize the user known as XxAxX.

yes Xx still loves cerebus. but seriously, let's walk away now okay? you can have the last word. i'm simply not in the mood to argue here.

this thread was a lot of fun until someone decided to argue a stupid point,.

i still maintain i feel the earth's movement through the wind that arises from the coriolis effect. i deliberately used vague terms such as in a way, etc. and i even rrefrained from claiming that the coriolis efefct IS the earth's movement. for whatever reason you refute my claim.

fine. now really, it's time to let this drop right? here. you can have the last word

XxAxX said:

Cerebus said:

What does that have to do with ANYTHING? Did you take up a new drug recently or something? Seriously, we've joked around more times than I can count and now you're on some sort of weird ass serious trip. Cerebus doesn't recognize the user known as XxAxX.

yes Xx still loves cerebus. but seriously, let's walk away now okay? you can have the last word. i'm simply not in the mood to argue here.

this thread was a lot of fun until someone decided to argue a stupid point,.

i still maintain i feel the earth's movement through the wind that arises from the coriolis effect. i deliberately used vague terms such as in a way, etc. and i even rrefrained from claiming that the coriolis efefct IS the earth's movement. for whatever reason you refute my claim.

fine. now really, it's time to let this drop right? here. you can have the last word

Uuuuuh....yeah. Thanks for giving me the last word there. And I think you just called me stupid. Totally awesome to see somebody drop something and walk away like that.

XxAxX said:

SUPRMAN said:

Very good try, but still no.

Because you feel the side effect of a medication does not mean that the medication itself is doing anything.

The wind speed and slows unlike the Earth's rotation (well, technically it does enough to measure, but not enough to begin to sense) so it is not 'in a way' a proxy for the Earth's rotation as you imply.

Furthermore the Earth would still have wind even if it didn't rotate.

i did say in part, and i was correct. unless you know more than these guys??

Coriolis Force - an artifact of the earth's rotation

Once air has been set in motion by the pressure gradient force, it undergoes an apparent deflection from its path, as seen by an observer on the earth. This apparent deflection is called the "Coriolis force" and is a result of the earth's rotation.

As air moves from high to low pressure in the northern hemisphere, it is deflected to the right by the Coriolis force. In the southern hemisphere, air moving from high to low pressure is deflected to the left by the Coriolis force.

The amount of deflection the air makes is directly related to both the speed at which the air is moving and its latitude. Therefore, slowly blowing winds will be deflected only a small amount, while stronger winds will be deflected more. Likewise, winds blowing closer to the poles will be deflected more than winds at the same speed closer to the equator. The Coriolis force is zero right at the equator.

This process is further demonstrated by the movie below. (more at link) http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc..../crls.rxml

[Edited 6/15/12 9:59am]

I never had disagreement with than part of your post.

That the wind is pushed by the Earth's rotation is fine and dandy, but it is not a proxy for feeling the Earth move. Even if the planet didn't spin, there would still be wind, in other words, that's only a component of the wind. How would you know the breeze you felt was due to the Coriolis force? It could be cooler air moving in to replace warmer air that is rising.

ZombieKitten and I discussed this once, and we both agreed we could feel the earth spinning.

Of course, she was feeling it spin in the wrong direction, as are you.

XxAxX said:

Cerebus said:

Why aren't you asking yourself that?

More than one person stated, "no, you can't feel the Earth move".

YOU are arguing otherwise.

And you're wrong. There is no "in a way". The effect you are referring to is CLEARLY feeling air moving, not the Earth. The language is very plain, so I'm not sure how you could interpret it any other way. Feeling air move, regardless of the cause, and feeling the Earth move are NOT the same thing.

If you don't want a response, then don't post an contradictory comment to begin with. Duh.

oh ehm gee. you are so like genius. i just can't facedown your dedication and utter commitment to not opening your mind even a teensy bit. kudos to you!!!!

WTH?!!!!

What kind of comment is that?

What you state in a poetic sense is not science fact.

You have the closed mind, refusing to accept the fact, that you cannot literally feel the Earth move. Feeling wind being pushed by the Earth is not 'in a way' feeling the Earth move in any rational sense. Poetically, ok. But that's not science.

Touchy-feely is not science. Factually, none of us can feel the Earth move, despite being fully aware that it is moving through space at thousands of miles per hour and being dragged through space by the pull of the sun, thousand of more miles per hour, while also being swung around by the galaxy. None of which we feel despite our awareness of it.

XxAxX said:

Cerebus said:

What does that have to do with ANYTHING? Did you take up a new drug recently or something? Seriously, we've joked around more times than I can count and now you're on some sort of weird ass serious trip. Cerebus doesn't recognize the user known as XxAxX.

yes Xx still loves cerebus. but seriously, let's walk away now okay? you can have the last word. i'm simply not in the mood to argue here.

this thread was a lot of fun until someone decided to argue a stupid point,.

i still maintain i feel the earth's movement through the wind that arises from the coriolis effect. i deliberately used vague terms such as in a way, etc. and i even rrefrained from claiming that the coriolis efefct IS the earth's movement. for whatever reason you refute my claim.

fine. now really, it's time to let this drop right? here. you can have the last word

And you maintain wrongly. Willful ignorance. But you are entitled.

The wind isn't moving nowhere nearly as fast as the Earth.

The Earth is only pushing air.

XxAxX said:

Cerebus said:

What does that have to do with ANYTHING? Did you take up a new drug recently or something? Seriously, we've joked around more times than I can count and now you're on some sort of weird ass serious trip. Cerebus doesn't recognize the user known as XxAxX.

yes Xx still loves cerebus. but seriously, let's walk away now okay? you can have the last word. i'm simply not in the mood to argue here.

this thread was a lot of fun until someone decided to argue a stupid point,.

i still maintain i feel the earth's movement through the wind that arises from the coriolis effect. i deliberately used vague terms such as in a way, etc. and i even rrefrained from claiming that the coriolis efefct IS the earth's movement. for whatever reason you refute my claim.

fine. now really, it's time to let this drop right? here. you can have the last word

OMG!!!! you're ALWAYS in the mood to argue XxAxX!!!

oh god, that made me LOL IRL so damn hard!!!

no need to attack me again, just saying!

on a sunny day when i lay on the grass and do that cloud image shape spotting thing - i feel the earth spinning i do really i do

[Edited 6/16/12 8:21am]

why did i start this thread???

the funny thing about cloud watching is the amount of poodles n sheep having sex in the sky!!!!

makes the earth spinning sensation seem rather normal

flyorra said:

why did i start this thread???

i like this thread!!!!