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Thread started 05/31/12 6:13pm

jonylawson	can someone explain SPOTIFY? I just started using it are all these tunes free? i mean am i breaking some crazy(when i say crazy i of course american) law? it just seems a bit too good to be true can you copy em onto your ipod?
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Reply #1 posted 05/31/12 6:20pm

LionsAndTigers	It is free. It'll just make you listen to an ad or 2 after every few songs. I don't think you can put any songs on your ipod, but if you upgrade to spotify premium, there are no ads and you can use it on an iphone, ipod, or android phone
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Reply #2 posted 05/31/12 6:31pm

jonylawson	LionsAndTigers said: It is free. It'll just make you listen to an ad or 2 after every few songs. I don't think you can put any songs on your ipod, but if you upgrade to spotify premium, there are no ads and you can use it on an iphone, ipod, or android phone thats mental so arent the artists pissed off?
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Reply #3 posted 05/31/12 6:31pm

jonylawson	LionsAndTigers said: It is free. It'll just make you listen to an ad or 2 after every few songs. I don't think you can put any songs on your ipod, but if you upgrade to spotify premium, there are no ads and you can use it on an iphone, ipod, or android phone hey.jess you got a new moniker!!
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Reply #4 posted 05/31/12 6:51pm

LionsAndTigers	jonylawson said: LionsAndTigers said: It is free. It'll just make you listen to an ad or 2 after every few songs. I don't think you can put any songs on your ipod, but if you upgrade to spotify premium, there are no ads and you can use it on an iphone, ipod, or android phone hey.jess you got a new moniker!! That's right!
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Reply #5 posted 05/31/12 6:52pm

LionsAndTigers	And I'm sure that the artists get paid somehow. I don't think it'd be legal if they weren't! . [Edited 5/31/12 18:52pm]
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Reply #6 posted 05/31/12 6:52pm

jonylawson	LionsAndTigers said: jonylawson said: hey.jess you got a new moniker!! That's right! yeah im digging your fine self
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Reply #7 posted 05/31/12 7:14pm

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I've read from at least a couple artists that they have chosen, so far, to not allow their music on spotify because what they get in return is very little and it takes a long time to filter down to them. Here's the direct answer to your question from the Spotify Founder & CEO...

Daniel Ek, Founder & CEO of Spotify

With the risk of slightly simplifying how it works. Here's an outline:

First, Spotify does not split anything directly with artists. Instead we have different layers of rights that Spotify has deals with. Those are record labels, publishers and collecting societies. Artists/Composers in their turn have deals with the above mentioned parties. The deals artists have with labels/publishers tend to differ quite a bit and therefore it's impossible for me to say what an artist actually gets in the end.

Spotify has three buckets of revenue. We get revenue from advertising, subscriptions and paid downloads. All of them are very different as a subscription is €10, a song is roughly €1 and advertising is a pool of revenue based on ads per month. We share the vast majority of all revenue we get in to all the right-holders.

Our part in the end is not that different from how the Apple app store works, where Apple sells apps and get a small percentage. What makes it slightly complex is that we have many more layers of rights in many different countries.

It's important also to mention that what Spotify is trying to do is to increase the amount of people who are consuming legal music. Our view is that there's so many people enjoying music out there, every single day, but the massive portion of them are currently not paying anything. We are trying to bring them back to paying for music again.

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Reply #8 posted 05/31/12 7:18pm

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Cerebus said:

I've read from at least a couple artists that they have chosen, so far, to not allow their music on spotify because what they get in return is very little and it takes a long time to filter down to them. Here's the direct answer to your question from the Spotify Founder & CEO...

Daniel Ek, Founder & CEO of Spotify

With the risk of slightly simplifying how it works. Here's an outline:

First, Spotify does not split anything directly with artists. Instead we have different layers of rights that Spotify has deals with. Those are record labels, publishers and collecting societies. Artists/Composers in their turn have deals with the above mentioned parties. The deals artists have with labels/publishers tend to differ quite a bit and therefore it's impossible for me to say what an artist actually gets in the end.

Spotify has three buckets of revenue. We get revenue from advertising, subscriptions and paid downloads. All of them are very different as a subscription is €10, a song is roughly €1 and advertising is a pool of revenue based on ads per month. We share the vast majority of all revenue we get in to all the right-holders.

Our part in the end is not that different from how the Apple app store works, where Apple sells apps and get a small percentage. What makes it slightly complex is that we have many more layers of rights in many different countries.

It's important also to mention that what Spotify is trying to do is to increase the amount of people who are consuming legal music. Our view is that there's so many people enjoying music out there, every single day, but the massive portion of them are currently not paying anything. We are trying to bring them back to paying for music again.

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Reply #9 posted 06/01/12 10:25am

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Cerebus said:

I've read from at least a couple artists that they have chosen, so far, to not allow their music on spotify because what they get in return is very little and it takes a long time to filter down to them.

This is what I have heard as well. Below is an email I received from Projekt Records founder Sam Rosenthal about why he pulled his artists from Spotify:

In the world I want to live in, I envision artists fairly compensated for their creations, because we (the audience) believe in the value of what artists create. The artist's passion, dedication and expression is respected and rewarded. Spotify is NOT a service that does this. Projekt will not be part of this unprincipled concept.

For a stream on Spotfy.... NOW READ THIS CLOSELY..... on average $0.0013 is paid to Projekt's Digital Distributor. 5000 plays generates around $6.50. In comparison, 5000 track downloads at iTunes generates $3487. To be clear: I am not suggesting that every stream would have been a sale at iTunes. Believe me, I understand the reality of the music business. This is just a comparison to make a point. Let's look at this another way: To earn the U.S. monthly minimum wage - $1160 - 892,307 plays a month are needed at Spotify. This is not a viable number for artists.