ZombieKitten said:

kewlschool said:

see reply 17!!!

Ohhhhhhhh, I thought it was going to be something good So how's your invasion at the space needle plans coming along?

Don't know who'd go?? (for real) Just a thought thrown out there to see if it sticks to the wall or the floor.

Tampa Bay

phunkdaddy said:

Tampa Bay

imago said:

phunkdaddy said:

Tampa Bay

Yes out of all the cities i've ever visited i was most impressed with Tampa

and actually love the place.

phunkdaddy said:

imago said:

Yes out of all the cities i've ever visited i was most impressed with Tampa

and actually love the place.

I still own a house there. I've lived there for 12 years.

The weather, the people, the venues, everything....I just found perfect. It's really a patch of heaven.

And the kayaking is amazing, both salt water and fresh water spring kayaking. I really have nothing

negative I can say about it other than poor public transportation.

kewlschool said:

San Jose,California It's close to the more 'popular' cities like Oakland and San Francisco,but it's more laid-back (and less hectic) than those cities.Excellent weather.

sextonseven said:

CarrieMpls said:

I lived in Madison for a summer and enjoyed it very much.

I looooooooooooooooooooove Minneapolis. I think the Twin Cities are probably the best place to live in the world. For me, anyway. Big enough to have all of the positives of a city (art, music, culture, food), still small enough to avoid a lot of the negatives (lower cirme rates, pollution, traffic, etc.). Socially progressive and liberal (republicans typically don't even get on the ballot for Minneapolis city elections) and a lot of civic pride (Minnesota has the highest voter turnout rate in the country). And tons of greenspace! And the best city for bicyclists. I could go on and on.

I could also live in San Francisco and Seattle.

It's funny you didn't mention at all how cold it gets in Minneapolis. I'm definitely not visiting you in the winter.

The cold keeps the HUGE populations away - which makes it more affordable.

Also, the climate totally shapes the culture. I belive it's why we have so much art and creativity. Folks hibernate and drink and go crazy all winter (all the while writing and creating and making music and so on) and then we emerge in the spring and act like a normal society again.

It also makes us appreciate it more.

I hate winters too. And I hate the cold. But it really makes me love spring and summer and fall.

ZombieKitten said:

kewlschool said:

Don't know who'd go?? (for real) Just a thought thrown out there to see if it sticks to the wall or the floor.

Me and PurpleJedi will go, maybe NDRU and I'll be forcing sextonseven to come along. This is going to be a major sausage fest

I have some work they may interfere with an ORG event this summer-however, when would be a good time in general? What month is the best month??? And where all the ladies?

kewlschool said:

ZombieKitten said:

kewlschool said: Me and PurpleJedi will go, maybe NDRU and I'll be forcing sextonseven to come along. This is going to be a major sausage fest

I have some work they may interfere with an ORG event this summer-however, when would be a good time in general? What month is the best month??? And where all the ladies?

This summer is way too soon - I have to save up $2K first

Auckland, New Zealand so far, it usually ranks very high on the Mercer lists

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Thats a view of mine from the water, we have some of the best weather overrall, high income, racial diversity and a gateway to the Pacific. Auckland has also hosted several international sporting events and has a lively arts scene. Next to Stockholm we have the highest personal yact and boat ownership rates, there is very little pollution and only moderate levels of crime.

Our only disadvantage being the very bad public transport and serious traffic congestion issues.

Christchurch, New Zealand is pretty good too

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I was born there, but their climate is worse (They have some serious snow problems, and its snowing there now) and they have had several nasty earthquakes. Christchrch also has a lot of poverty and crime issues. It has a large population of displaced people currently and a serious housing shortage.

sextonseven said:

BobbyDrake said:

thanks kewl.

Do you have a lot of income? I loved San Francisco when I visited, but I hear it's one of the most expensive cities in which to live in the country.

San Francisco is a fun place to visit,but I wouldn't want to live there.I don't like places that attract alot of tourists I live 40 miles away from SF so I can visit anytime,but it would drive me crazy if I lived there.

i like it here

SoulAlive said:

sextonseven said:

Do you have a lot of income? I loved San Francisco when I visited, but I hear it's one of the most expensive cities in which to live in the country.

San Francisco is a fun place to visit,but I wouldn't want to live there.I don't like places that attract alot of tourists I live 40 miles away from SF so I can visit anytime,but it would drive me crazy if I lived there.

I'm in NYC so I can certainly agree with you about not wanting to deal with tourists. Living in one of the outer boroughs is the best of both worlds. It's relatively quiet where I live, but access to Manhattan is just 30 minutes away by car--a little longer using public transportation, but it only costs me $2.50 to get there.

BobbyDrake said:

May be looking to finally leave my city (Chicago) in a few years. The political corruption, high taxes, and racial segregation have finally worn be down.

What are relatively progressive cities that are worth checking out?

Thanks in advance fam.

I can't recommend the NY metro area if you're tired of political corruption, high taxes and racial segregation.

The same survey - Mercer said that Brazzaville (Republic of Congo - French Congo) ranked worst in the world, nearly no electricity, no sewage or piped water, the population lives mostly in corrugated iron shacks and the weather is nearly always raining. The country has lived through communist dictatorships and then African big man dictatorships.

Also ranking poorly are Kinshasa (DRC), Johannesburg mainly due to their crime rates. Leaving Africa lest I be called a racist, Kabul and Baghdad also rank lowly. The mexican border cities have had ongoing problems with drug violence and grisly murders (Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez and Matamoros), Buenos Aires too has ranked poorly due to its shanty towns that keep it out of the first world.

Most American and British cities do well, although Detroit and Liverpool are known for their poverty and crime and the fact both has lost over 50% of their population since the 50s. Marseilles in France also has many no go areas such as the outer Fauborgs of Paris like the Bosquet and Clichy sur bains.

sextonseven said:

SoulAlive said:

San Francisco is a fun place to visit,but I wouldn't want to live there.I don't like places that attract alot of tourists I live 40 miles away from SF so I can visit anytime,but it would drive me crazy if I lived there.

I'm in NYC so I can certainly agree with you about not wanting to deal with tourists. Living in one of the outer boroughs is the best of both worlds. It's relatively quiet where I live, but access to Manhattan is just 30 minutes away by car--a little longer using public transportation, but it only costs me $2.50 to get there.

There was a time (a looong time ago) when I actually considered moving to Los Angeles,but now I'm glad that I didn't.Hectic,overcrowded places with alot of tourists drive me crazy! lol

like you said,it's best to live outside of a major city....in a smaller,less hectic city.

Another good city to live in is Fremont,California.It's an expensive place to live but if you can afford it,you should check it out.It's a beautiful,peaceful city but if you want some excitement,you can just hop in your car and drive to nearby Oakland and San Francisco.

Vanity (Deniece Mathews) lives here I think she's involved with a church in this area.

SoulAlive said:

like you said,it's best to live outside of a major city....in a smaller,less hectic city.

Or live in a big not hectic city .

sextonseven said:

SoulAlive said:

San Francisco is a fun place to visit,but I wouldn't want to live there.I don't like places that attract alot of tourists I live 40 miles away from SF so I can visit anytime,but it would drive me crazy if I lived there.

I'm in NYC so I can certainly agree with you about not wanting to deal with tourists. Living in one of the outer boroughs is the best of both worlds. It's relatively quiet where I live, but access to Manhattan is just 30 minutes away by car--a little longer using public transportation, but it only costs me $2.50 to get there.

I never in a million YEARS thought I’d say this, but as I get older, I love the idea of living in a fairly rural area that’s within 15-45 minutes of a major/minor city. (And they do exist.)

I can’t do the suburbs (for obvious reasons) but I really would like to have plenty of my own green space and some privacy. I also want to have goats and chickens and keep honeybees. I’ve been thinking a lot about retiring to somewhere just like that. Or finding a way to work from home part time and spend most of my time caring for my animals, makin’ goat cheese and honey and stuff.

I still need to be able to get into a city for everything I need out of a city now. But yeah, I want some space and I want animals.

The thought would have been BIZARRE to me even 5 years ago, but I’m starting to love the idea.

Serious said:

SoulAlive said:

like you said,it's best to live outside of a major city....in a smaller,less hectic city.

Or live in a big not hectic city .

CarrieMpls said:

sextonseven said:

I'm in NYC so I can certainly agree with you about not wanting to deal with tourists. Living in one of the outer boroughs is the best of both worlds. It's relatively quiet where I live, but access to Manhattan is just 30 minutes away by car--a little longer using public transportation, but it only costs me $2.50 to get there.

I never in a million YEARS thought I’d say this, but as I get older, I love the idea of living in a fairly rural area that’s within 15-45 minutes of a major/minor city. (And they do exist.)

I can’t do the suburbs (for obvious reasons) but I really would like to have plenty of my own green space and some privacy. I also want to have goats and chickens and keep honeybees. I’ve been thinking a lot about retiring to somewhere just like that. Or finding a way to work from home part time and spend most of my time caring for my animals, makin’ goat cheese and honey and stuff.

I still need to be able to get into a city for everything I need out of a city now. But yeah, I want some space and I want animals.

The thought would have been BIZARRE to me even 5 years ago, but I’m starting to love the idea.

I feel the same way As I get older,I begin to like the idea of living in a quiet place without alot of noise,congestion and huge crowds.But still,I'd like to be sorta close to the big city (within 15-30 minutes of one).

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CarrieMpls said:

Folks hibernate and drink and go crazy all winter (all the while writing)

JDInteractive said:

CarrieMpls said:

Hey there, JD!

CarrieMpls said:

JDInteractive said:

Hey there, JD!

I have visited a lot of cities but to live in, well, I can't really beat Seoul. It's got everything I could possibly wish for here with the exception of a large number of decent live music venues and Korea lacking pork pies, Maltesers, Marmite and Scotch eggs.

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Adorecream said:

Auckland, New Zealand so far, it usually ranks very high on the Mercer lists

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Thats a view of mine from the water, we have some of the best weather overrall, high income, racial diversity and a gateway to the Pacific. Auckland has also hosted several international sporting events and has a lively arts scene. Next to Stockholm we have the highest personal yact and boat ownership rates, there is very little pollution and only moderate levels of crime.

Our only disadvantage being the very bad public transport and serious traffic congestion issues.

Christchurch, New Zealand is pretty good too

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I was born there, but their climate is worse (They have some serious snow problems, and its snowing there now) and they have had several nasty earthquakes. Christchrch also has a lot of poverty and crime issues. It has a large population of displaced people currently and a serious housing shortage.

Sorry, but I thought 'Christ, what am I doing here church,' when I was there.

I live in Amsterdam and it's a great city. However, I'd move to Cape Town in a heartbeat.

CarrieMpls said:

sextonseven said:

I'm in NYC so I can certainly agree with you about not wanting to deal with tourists. Living in one of the outer boroughs is the best of both worlds. It's relatively quiet where I live, but access to Manhattan is just 30 minutes away by car--a little longer using public transportation, but it only costs me $2.50 to get there.

I never in a million YEARS thought I’d say this, but as I get older, I love the idea of living in a fairly rural area that’s within 15-45 minutes of a major/minor city. (And they do exist.)

I can’t do the suburbs (for obvious reasons) but I really would like to have plenty of my own green space and some privacy. I also want to have goats and chickens and keep honeybees. I’ve been thinking a lot about retiring to somewhere just like that. Or finding a way to work from home part time and spend most of my time caring for my animals, makin’ goat cheese and honey and stuff.

I still need to be able to get into a city for everything I need out of a city now. But yeah, I want some space and I want animals.

The thought would have been BIZARRE to me even 5 years ago, but I’m starting to love the idea.

I live on the edge of a forest. I commute 45 minutes to work. But I love it.