The thing with Mob Wives is that c'mon, these women are affiliated in some way with the mob! We expect them to be tough, coarse and emotionally unstable. It fits them and how they grew up. The men in their lives are pretty much losers. They put up with a lot of shit.

CynicKill said:

RHONJ:

The whole Gia thing:

I don't know all I know is I hate Teresa. Notice how when Gia was having her fit she said something about how Melissa-is-doing-something-ALWAYS! I didn't like that. Last year she said Melissa controls uncle Joe. Teresa talks way too much in front of this girl and quite possibly TO this girl.

She is starting to act JUST LIKE TERESA!

Of course Caroline and Jac were silly talking to her. Here's a tip; when a spoiled brat continues to whine for her mom, hurry up and get her and get said brat out of your hair. Caroline was right dim bulb Teresa just reinforced obnoxious behavior in her daughter, but guess what? She's hopeless!

I did like when Jac responded to Gia's demands that she get out with, "Guess what this is my house, how about you get out"!

BTW I don't believe Lauren for one minute when she said that this party is more fun with just the family. The Manzos are boorish.

You know I didn't even catch when Jacqueline responded back to Gia the way she did....in a childish way. Wow Jacqueline, no wonder Ashley had behavioral problems. As I said before, Caroline and Jacqueline fed right into Gia's tantrum instead of just getting her mother immediately after talked to them out of place.

Lauren just need to go somewhere and STFU. You are right on when you say the Manzo's are boring as hell because they are. Urgh. Listening to Chris and Albie talk about absolutely nothing or cracking on their sister is not my idea of "fun". Shucks if Lauren was so dissatisfied, she could have used that time to disappear to a gym. At least she would have had more fun there and felt better about herself...in peace.

One more thing I wanted to mention too that I forgot to say yesterday, it really irks me to no end when Caroline talks about Lauren's weight struggles. Especially the part when she was saying that the only reason why Lauren didn't get asked to the Prom and had to go with her brother was because of her weight. Ummmmmmm, girls don't get asked to the prom because of either their personality, lack of confidence in themselves, or the circles they do or don't run in...not because of their weight, because I can tell you for a fact that there were plenty of heavy weights in my high school and you couldn't tell them girls that they weren't cute or fabulous...and the guys they had were good looking and suave. It's not about the weight, its about confidence.

missfee said:

CynicKill said:

RHONJ:

The whole Gia thing:

I don't know all I know is I hate Teresa. Notice how when Gia was having her fit she said something about how Melissa-is-doing-something-ALWAYS! I didn't like that. Last year she said Melissa controls uncle Joe. Teresa talks way too much in front of this girl and quite possibly TO this girl.

She is starting to act JUST LIKE TERESA!

Of course Caroline and Jac were silly talking to her. Here's a tip; when a spoiled brat continues to whine for her mom, hurry up and get her and get said brat out of your hair. Caroline was right dim bulb Teresa just reinforced obnoxious behavior in her daughter, but guess what? She's hopeless!

I did like when Jac responded to Gia's demands that she get out with, "Guess what this is my house, how about you get out"!

BTW I don't believe Lauren for one minute when she said that this party is more fun with just the family. The Manzos are boorish.

You know I didn't even catch when Jacqueline responded back to Gia the way she did....in a childish way. Wow Jacqueline, no wonder Ashley had behavioral problems. As I said before, Caroline and Jacqueline fed right into Gia's tantrum instead of just getting her mother immediately after talked to them out of place.

Lauren just need to go somewhere and STFU. You are right on when you say the Manzo's are boring as hell because they are. Urgh. Listening to Chris and Albie talk about absolutely nothing or cracking on their sister is not my idea of "fun". Shucks if Lauren was so dissatisfied, she could have used that time to disappear to a gym. At least she would have had more fun there and felt better about herself...in peace.

One more thing I wanted to mention too that I forgot to say yesterday, it really irks me to no end when Caroline talks about Lauren's weight struggles. Especially the part when she was saying that the only reason why Lauren didn't get asked to the Prom and had to go with her brother was because of her weight. Ummmmmmm, girls don't get asked to the prom because of either their personality, lack of confidence in themselves, or the circles they do or don't run in...not because of their weight, because I can tell you for a fact that there were plenty of heavy weights in my high school and you couldn't tell them girls that they weren't cute or fabulous...and the guys they had were good looking and suave. It's not about the weight, its about confidence.

Yep Jacqueline was straight up immature when she responded to Gia but I can't help it, everyone was thinking it. Thank God for reality TV where boundaries seem non existent for someone to say it.

The whole thing with Gia bothered me because it revealed to me that Gia has NEVER been disciplined her entire life. We all know when Teresa got home she didn't sit Gia down and talk to her about the importance of sportsmanship and respecting your elders(when they act like elders), but I bet we'll see her bitching with her husband about it while the kids are somewhere nearby.

Jacquiline said somethig telling during the whole thing. I think she said that Assley was about the same age when she started acting out. Ok Jacquiline, so now, after ruining your kid, you all of a sudden feel qualified to raise someone elses?

What Jac could've done to stand her ground was say I'm an adult don't talk to me that way THEN tell her to go outside to your mom (she is right it is her house). THEN when she doesn't go then go out and get Dumm- I mean Teresa.

missfee said:

CynicKill said:

RHONJ:

The whole Gia thing:

I don't know all I know is I hate Teresa. Notice how when Gia was having her fit she said something about how Melissa-is-doing-something-ALWAYS! I didn't like that. Last year she said Melissa controls uncle Joe. Teresa talks way too much in front of this girl and quite possibly TO this girl.

She is starting to act JUST LIKE TERESA!

Of course Caroline and Jac were silly talking to her. Here's a tip; when a spoiled brat continues to whine for her mom, hurry up and get her and get said brat out of your hair. Caroline was right dim bulb Teresa just reinforced obnoxious behavior in her daughter, but guess what? She's hopeless!

I did like when Jac responded to Gia's demands that she get out with, "Guess what this is my house, how about you get out"!

BTW I don't believe Lauren for one minute when she said that this party is more fun with just the family. The Manzos are boorish.

You know I didn't even catch when Jacqueline responded back to Gia the way she did....in a childish way. Wow Jacqueline, no wonder Ashley had behavioral problems. As I said before, Caroline and Jacqueline fed right into Gia's tantrum instead of just getting her mother immediately after talked to them out of place.

I didn't have a problem with what she said or even the way she said it. Gia told Jac to get out of her own house, and Jac (actually very lightheartedly) with a chuckle responded that it was her house and that Gia should leave, but it wasn't heavy handed at all and I burst out laughing because of the way she said it, it was alot more gentle than anything I can remember from my parents' generation if a kid ever spoke disrespectfully to an adult. If anything ,she was displaying (up until the time she pulled out the book) patience and humor with an all out brat.

Call me biased (because I can't stand bad ass kids)- but I think Teresa is raising monsters. I don't care how "cute" people think her kids are, Teresa is raising the next generatiopn of Chuckies, Jasons, & Freddy Krugers disguised with pink tutus and bubblegum lip gloss.

missfee said:

Sweetie Pies....

Anyone been watching this? So the next episode is the season finale for season 2, already. Wow, seems like this season was really short...then again, the network is in trouble, so who knows what the reason may be.

Anywho, I feel like this season was just okay, last season was much better. This season was focused so much on Tim and his issues more than anything. Honestly, I feel like that he was in prison for so long (10 years) that now that he's out, all he really wants to do is make money and do some of the things that he wants to do since now, he has the freedom to do it. I think sometimes he feels like he's locked down in his the family restaurant business but really still getting to know who Tim is and what he really wants to do. This could also be applied to...

His relationship with Janae. Every single week Janae is whining about something she feels Tim isn't doing that he should be doing. I see her side and I see his side, but overall, I feel like she's forever thinking about how she feels and not really thinking realistically about how he feels. It's no secret, he admits that he's not a good communicator, which to me, is a really big thing to think about if you want to marry this dude. If he can't communicate with you now, then how is it somehow going to get better after you all get married....that is IF you all get married at all, because the writing's on the wall, Tim ain't ready to get married to nobody. Does he love her, oh yeah, definitely. But I think Tim was premature in asking Jenae to marry him. I really think he was caught up in the emotions of the baby coming and everything and then proposed to her, thinking that was something he should have done as oppose to something he really wanted to do. Now she's ready to get going on the wedding planning (perhaps planning an over the top wedding that they can't afford) and the only time he smiles about any aspect of the wedding is when they have to push the date back because the venue Janea wanted wasn't available for the date she wanted to get married (and the fact that she was doing 100% of the planning and Tim was hardly doing anything to help and was avoiding it at all costs). Wow. If that isn't a clear indication that he isn't ready to get married, I don't know what is. Another thing I don't get about Janae is how she will brag to her inner circle of girlfriends about how much she "loves her dude" and that he's definitely "the one" yet in the very next scene, she's in damn near tears wondering if the relationship is worth being in because he isn't communicating with her, spending enough time with her, or whatever else she is dissatisfied about.

To me, I think Tim is avoiding his relationship with Jenae because he's a new dad, he's a manager at his mother's restaurant, he want's to pursue this so called music/rap career with his best friend, and then he wants to open a club. He's all over the place and really truly doesn't know what to do with his life as of yet. On top of that, he and Miss Robbie are forever at odds over decisions about the restaurant. His life is just at this point.

This past episode showed him and Miss Robbie in therapy talking about issues they have between one another. I really think it's him and Janae that need the counseling more than anything, they shouldn't even be thinking about marriage until that happens. And also, can Tim get rid of that wack ass mohawk look? It's played out homie.

He needs to get rid of that wack ass mohawk and that wack ass best friend of his. He ain't nothin' but foolishness and trouble under 10lbs. of dreads!

CynicKill said:

missfee said:

You know I didn't even catch when Jacqueline responded back to Gia the way she did....in a childish way. Wow Jacqueline, no wonder Ashley had behavioral problems. As I said before, Caroline and Jacqueline fed right into Gia's tantrum instead of just getting her mother immediately after talked to them out of place.

Lauren just need to go somewhere and STFU. You are right on when you say the Manzo's are boring as hell because they are. Urgh. Listening to Chris and Albie talk about absolutely nothing or cracking on their sister is not my idea of "fun". Shucks if Lauren was so dissatisfied, she could have used that time to disappear to a gym. At least she would have had more fun there and felt better about herself...in peace.

One more thing I wanted to mention too that I forgot to say yesterday, it really irks me to no end when Caroline talks about Lauren's weight struggles. Especially the part when she was saying that the only reason why Lauren didn't get asked to the Prom and had to go with her brother was because of her weight. Ummmmmmm, girls don't get asked to the prom because of either their personality, lack of confidence in themselves, or the circles they do or don't run in...not because of their weight, because I can tell you for a fact that there were plenty of heavy weights in my high school and you couldn't tell them girls that they weren't cute or fabulous...and the guys they had were good looking and suave. It's not about the weight, its about confidence.

Yep Jacqueline was straight up immature when she responded to Gia but I can't help it, everyone was thinking it. Thank God for reality TV where boundaries seem non existent for someone to say it.

The whole thing with Gia bothered me because it revealed to me that Gia has NEVER been disciplined her entire life. We all know when Teresa got home she didn't sit Gia down and talk to her about the importance of sportsmanship and respecting your elders(when they act like elders), but I bet we'll see her bitching with her husband about it while the kids are somewhere nearby.

Jacquiline said somethig telling during the whole thing. I think she said that Assley was about the same age when she started acting out. Ok Jacquiline, so now, after ruining your kid, you all of a sudden feel qualified to raise someone elses?

What Jac could've done to stand her ground was say I'm an adult don't talk to me that way THEN tell her to go outside to your mom (she is right it is her house). THEN when she doesn't go then go out and get Dumm- I mean Teresa.

And to me that's the sad part. If that were me and Gia was talking disrespectfully to me, at that point, I'm not going to negotiate or diffuse anything with a child, I'm going straight to the source, the parent to tell them that their child is acting out and being disrespectful to me IN MY HOUSE and they need you right now. That's all that needed to happen. I don't sit up there and waste time correcting someone else's child because that is the parents job. Besides, I'm not going to sit up there and waste time trying to get a child to understand how they are being wrong and how I'm right....I'm a grown ass woman, what the hell I look like going back and forth with a child? Umm no ma'am. The moment that child would had told me IN MY OWN HOUSE that I could leave and go outside, I can tell you exactly what I would had said: "umm excuse me, Gia? Oh hell naw, where is Teresa at? TERESA!!! Your daughter is being disrespectful towards me in my house and I don't appreciate it right now." Done and done. After that, if Teresa didn't feel like she was being disrespectful, then they BOTH could have left my house. Problem solved.

On the flip side, Jacqueline bringing out the book was a terrible move. It only looked like she was berating Gia to make her feel like she was a bad child. The point is, when Gia asked for or was calling for her mother, both Caroline and Jacqueline should had gone and went and got Teresa. But nooo Caroline wants to sit and act like she's the "matriach" so she's going to teach Gia a lesson. FAIL.

[Edited 5/22/12 8:56am]

missfee said:

Sweetie Pies....

Anyone been watching this? So the next episode is the season finale for season 2, already. Wow, seems like this season was really short...then again, the network is in trouble, so who knows what the reason may be.

Anywho, I feel like this season was just okay, last season was much better. This season was focused so much on Tim and his issues more than anything. Honestly, I feel like that he was in prison for so long (10 years) that now that he's out, all he really wants to do is make money and do some of the things that he wants to do since now, he has the freedom to do it. I think sometimes he feels like he's locked down in his the family restaurant business but really still getting to know who Tim is and what he really wants to do. This could also be applied to...

His relationship with Janae. Every single week Janae is whining about something she feels Tim isn't doing that he should be doing. I see her side and I see his side, but overall, I feel like she's forever thinking about how she feels and not really thinking realistically about how he feels. It's no secret, he admits that he's not a good communicator, which to me, is a really big thing to think about if you want to marry this dude. If he can't communicate with you now, then how is it somehow going to get better after you all get married....that is IF you all get married at all, because the writing's on the wall, Tim ain't ready to get married to nobody. Does he love her, oh yeah, definitely. But I think Tim was premature in asking Jenae to marry him. I really think he was caught up in the emotions of the baby coming and everything and then proposed to her, thinking that was something he should have done as oppose to something he really wanted to do. Now she's ready to get going on the wedding planning (perhaps planning an over the top wedding that they can't afford) and the only time he smiles about any aspect of the wedding is when they have to push the date back because the venue Janea wanted wasn't available for the date she wanted to get married (and the fact that she was doing 100% of the planning and Tim was hardly doing anything to help and was avoiding it at all costs). Wow. If that isn't a clear indication that he isn't ready to get married, I don't know what is. Another thing I don't get about Janae is how she will brag to her inner circle of girlfriends about how much she "loves her dude" and that he's definitely "the one" yet in the very next scene, she's in damn near tears wondering if the relationship is worth being in because he isn't communicating with her, spending enough time with her, or whatever else she is dissatisfied about.

To me, I think Tim is avoiding his relationship with Jenae because he's a new dad, he's a manager at his mother's restaurant, he want's to pursue this so called music/rap career with his best friend, and then he wants to open a club. He's all over the place and really truly doesn't know what to do with his life as of yet. On top of that, he and Miss Robbie are forever at odds over decisions about the restaurant. His life is just at this point.

This past episode showed him and Miss Robbie in therapy talking about issues they have between one another. I really think it's him and Janae that need the counseling more than anything, they shouldn't even be thinking about marriage until that happens. And also, can Tim get rid of that wack ass mohawk look? It's played out homie.

Lord, I'm 15 minutes in....Tim is not getting married. It seems like the more the show goes on this season the mature he becomes.

Part of me wonders if him having a taste of these cameras in his face is making him wanting to shirk family repsonsibility and chase some kind of pipe dream of life in the limelight

anybody watching "mrs. eastwood" with clint eastwood's family that lives in carmel? i think they're trying too hard and just want to launch that boy band. i go to carmel all of the time though, and it really is a lovely city!

kimrachell said:

anybody watching "mrs. eastwood" with clint eastwood's family that lives in carmel? i think they're trying too hard and just want to launch that boy band. i go to carmel all of the time though, and it really is a lovely city!

Mrs. Eastwood? Hmm, haven't heard of this show.

Ottensen said:

missfee said:

Sweetie Pies....

Anyone been watching this? So the next episode is the season finale for season 2, already. Wow, seems like this season was really short...then again, the network is in trouble, so who knows what the reason may be.

Anywho, I feel like this season was just okay, last season was much better. This season was focused so much on Tim and his issues more than anything. Honestly, I feel like that he was in prison for so long (10 years) that now that he's out, all he really wants to do is make money and do some of the things that he wants to do since now, he has the freedom to do it. I think sometimes he feels like he's locked down in his the family restaurant business but really still getting to know who Tim is and what he really wants to do. This could also be applied to...

His relationship with Janae. Every single week Janae is whining about something she feels Tim isn't doing that he should be doing. I see her side and I see his side, but overall, I feel like she's forever thinking about how she feels and not really thinking realistically about how he feels. It's no secret, he admits that he's not a good communicator, which to me, is a really big thing to think about if you want to marry this dude. If he can't communicate with you now, then how is it somehow going to get better after you all get married....that is IF you all get married at all, because the writing's on the wall, Tim ain't ready to get married to nobody. Does he love her, oh yeah, definitely. But I think Tim was premature in asking Jenae to marry him. I really think he was caught up in the emotions of the baby coming and everything and then proposed to her, thinking that was something he should have done as oppose to something he really wanted to do. Now she's ready to get going on the wedding planning (perhaps planning an over the top wedding that they can't afford) and the only time he smiles about any aspect of the wedding is when they have to push the date back because the venue Janea wanted wasn't available for the date she wanted to get married (and the fact that she was doing 100% of the planning and Tim was hardly doing anything to help and was avoiding it at all costs). Wow. If that isn't a clear indication that he isn't ready to get married, I don't know what is. Another thing I don't get about Janae is how she will brag to her inner circle of girlfriends about how much she "loves her dude" and that he's definitely "the one" yet in the very next scene, she's in damn near tears wondering if the relationship is worth being in because he isn't communicating with her, spending enough time with her, or whatever else she is dissatisfied about.

To me, I think Tim is avoiding his relationship with Jenae because he's a new dad, he's a manager at his mother's restaurant, he want's to pursue this so called music/rap career with his best friend, and then he wants to open a club. He's all over the place and really truly doesn't know what to do with his life as of yet. On top of that, he and Miss Robbie are forever at odds over decisions about the restaurant. His life is just at this point.

This past episode showed him and Miss Robbie in therapy talking about issues they have between one another. I really think it's him and Janae that need the counseling more than anything, they shouldn't even be thinking about marriage until that happens. And also, can Tim get rid of that wack ass mohawk look? It's played out homie.

Lord, I'm 15 minutes in....Tim is not getting married. It seems like the more the show goes on this season the mature he becomes.

Part of me wonders if him having a taste of these cameras in his face is making him wanting to shirk family repsonsibility and chase some kind of pipe dream of life in the limelight

I think at times he is very immature....BUT as I said previously, I think he's still getting to know who Tim really is and what he's capable of. As far as Janae goes, I don't know why she expects so much out of him when she knew from jump what the deal was. This guy had just gotten out of prison and was getting his life together...now you trying to act brand new and wonder why he's not happy when "he should be because he has everything a person wishes and dreams about"...maybe in your world Janae, but for him it's more than that. He was locked down for 10 years, that's a long time to be taking orders and now that he's a free man, free to do what he wants and chooses, he's doing just that. Besides, he's probably working over and double time to provide for his family or possibly to keep up with Janae's lifestyle cuz it don't look like homegirl is cheap. Then she wonders why he stays away and doesn't come home or can give her a time frame for when he expects to get home, umm I wouldn't either even if I knew I could give a time frame because all you do when he gets to the house is bitch and moan. It's either the wedding, or not spending enough time with her, etc. C'mon now.

I love Miss Robbie and all, but I didn't agree with some of the decisions/bitching and moaning she did this season either.

kimrachell said:

anybody watching "mrs. eastwood" with clint eastwood's family that lives in carmel? i think they're trying too hard and just want to launch that boy band. i go to carmel all of the time though, and it really is a lovely city!

I just found out about the show today watching an interview clip of the wife on The View.

Clint's eldest son Kyle is here in Europe quite alot working on his career as a jazz musician, I met him in Switzerland through Aretha Franklin's son and he does a lot of press for his projects here in Germany (some friends of mine here in Hamburg have been his photographers for PR stuff)--- I'm actually surprised that the family would even go this route; they're a very "priveileged", "entitled" Hollywood royalty kinda bunch, so I am curious about the show. Diana the wife (or whatever her name is) used to be a news anchor, but from the teeny tiny clip I saw of the show for some reason I kept being reminded of the Kardashians (I guess with her being a manager now? With cute daughters?), but I need to see a full episode. I guess I'll be looking this one up online tonight

Ahh, okay, that was easy. Viewing link below, folks. I'll likely check this out before going to bed tonight:

Meet.Mrs.Eastwood.and.Com... PutLocker

Chris, RHONJ and the Fag Hag Conundrum

I was wondering about this after hearing quite a few people voice their dissatisfaction with Chris since he was introduced last season on RHONJ. The consistent criticism is that Chris is a messy gay.

I suppose what people mean by messy is his appearance, because not once have I seen him drunk or loud in any episode. He gets criticized for worshipping Melissa, but to me it's just your basic homo/fruit fly relationship.

Melissa is prime diva worship material, and most of the time it's hard to define. Usually you know it when you see it. Teresa would normally be the "diva" of the group but she lacks certain qulaities that make her even a likable human being. The main thing she isn't is smart, which is a real turn off. I only saw Danielle Staub during the end of her tenure and I must say she must've chilled out a lot because I didn't see as much of the crazy as people claim. But she was the resident diva on the show when I saw her. Just the way she Cruella De Ville'd her way through the reunion, slinking away from a hysterical Teresa, cemented her divadom.

So Chris's adoration of Melissa is a given. Of couse he wants to be her!

But the other thing is women's relationship to their gays. On RHOA the gays are just like one of the girls, so of course women can relate to them. And it's the perfect friendship. It's like having a best girlfriend without all that BBW crap women pull on each other. But Chris isn't so flashy or relateable in a feminine sense. He's more guy, and worse yet, unfashionable. With all the criticism of Chris it seems like women are saying I have no use for a messy man, unless there's a chance of some type of romance. So you have to be enthralling ( Halston. Tom Ford ), or relatable (RHOA gays, Ru Paul ).

Chris is easily the least annoying male on the show. The Manzo boys I just- forget it. The "grown" men are boys. Chris just loves Melissa and seems to be getting crucified for it.

CynicKill said:

Chris, RHONJ and the Fag Hag Conundrum

I was wondering about this after hearing quite a few people voice their dissatisfaction with Chris since he was introduced last season on RHONJ. The consistent criticism is that Chris is a messy gay.

I suppose what people mean by messy is his appearance, because not once have I seen him drunk or loud in any episode. He gets criticized for worshipping Melissa, but to me it's just your basic homo/fruit fly relationship.

Melissa is prime diva worship material, and most of the time it's hard to define. Usually you know it when you see it. Teresa would normally be the "diva" of the group but she lacks certain qulaities that make her even a likable human being. The main thing she isn't is smart, which is a real turn off. I only saw Danielle Staub during the end of her tenure and I must say she must've chilled out a lot because I didn't see as much of the crazy as people claim. But she was the resident diva on the show when I saw her. Just the way she Cruella De Ville'd her way through the reunion, slinking away from a hysterical Teresa, cemented her divadom.

So Chris's adoration of Melissa is a given. Of couse he wants to be her!

But the other thing is women's relationship to their gays. On RHOA the gays are just like one of the girls, so of course women can relate to them. And it's the perfect friendship. It's like having a best girlfriend without all that BBW crap women pull on each other. But Chris isn't so flashy or relateable in a feminine sense. He's more guy, and worse yet, unfashionable. With all the criticism of Chris it seems like women are saying I have no use for a messy man, unless there's a chance of some type of romance. So you have to be enthralling ( Halston. Tom Ford ), or relatable (RHOA gays, Ru Paul ).

Chris is easily the least annoying male on the show. The Manzo boys I just- forget it. The "grown" men are boys. Chris just loves Melissa and seems to be getting crucified for it.

Umm don't you mean Greg? There's only two Chris' on the show, Chris Manzo (Caroline's son) and Chris Laurita (Caroline's brother and Jacqueline's hubby).

Yes I do mean Greg!

They're not THAT intercghangeable are they??? LOL

kimrachell said:

anybody watching "mrs. eastwood" with clint eastwood's family that lives in carmel? i think they're trying too hard and just want to launch that boy band. i go to carmel all of the time though, and it really is a lovely city!

One of my friends got married in Carmel and it is very pretty there. Felt a little secluded but I guess that's part of the charm.

Ottensen said:

Ahh, okay, that was easy. Viewing link below, folks. I'll likely check this out before going to bed tonight:

Meet.Mrs.Eastwood.and.Com... PutLocker

Isn't the blonde one the daughter of Francis Fischer? Its amazing Clint had all those children. I read Sondra Locke's biography (long time GF and costar in many of his films) and she said he made her have like 6 abortions or something. It seems he wanted no children from her but also refused to use a condom.

nevermind.

[Edited 5/24/12 14:58pm]

I've been out of the reality circle for a little while, except for these excerpts, BUT I was reading this morning that Bethanny may be heading to divorce court? Tell me it's a rumor.

Bethenny Frankel's Prenup Protects 'SkinnyGirl' Business

I hate to say it (well no I don't) but it's mostly Bethenney's fault her marriage is on the rocks.

The following attributes are not condusive to a healthy marital union:

1. Being a wise ass - e.g. When the woman is a wise ass to everyone INCLUDING her mate

2. Overly dutiful - e.g. When the man decides to marry the woman JUST BECAUSE she is pregnant and the woman says OK COOL

3. Being greedy - e.g. When your family takes a back seat to your wanting to become the next billionnaire

4. Being a windbag - e.g. talking so much that only your voice is heard

5. Airing dirty laundry - e.g. mentioning your husband's shortcomings on national television

For realz, Bethenney done let the success of her company and her reality shows go to her head. Already she's gearing up for a talk show. Where does she find time to be a good wife and mother if her main priority is working, being famous and getting the benjamins? I would have been content to have the skinny girl company but nah....Bethenney gotta go out and conquer the world.

HotGritz said:

I hate to say it (well no I don't) but it's mostly Bethenney's fault her marriage is on the rocks.

The following attributes are not condusive to a healthy marital union:

1. Being a wise ass - e.g. When the woman is a wise ass to everyone INCLUDING her mate

2. Overly dutiful - e.g. When the man decides to marry the woman JUST BECAUSE she is pregnant and the woman says OK COOL

3. Being greedy - e.g. When your family takes a back seat to your wanting to become the next billionnaire

4. Being a windbag - e.g. talking so much that only your voice is heard

5. Airing dirty laundry - e.g. mentioning your husband's shortcomings on national television

For realz, Bethenney done let the success of her company and her reality shows go to her head. Already she's gearing up for a talk show. Where does she find time to be a good wife and mother if her main priority is working, being famous and getting the benjamins? I would have been content to have the skinny girl company but nah....Bethenney gotta go out and conquer the world.

Really you feel that way about Bethenny? From what I've seen from her show, she doesn't appear to be this type woman where her business and money comes before her family.

1. Being a wise ass - e.g. When the woman is a wise ass to everyone INCLUDING her mate

By watching RHONY from the years she was on it, that is her personality. Being outspoken is who she is. IMO that's what I like about her. In regards to her mate, he knew at least that much before he married her, so if her outspokeness is an issue for him, then that's his fault.

2. Overly dutiful - e.g. When the man decides to marry the woman JUST BECAUSE she is pregnant and the woman says OK COOL

No one forced Jason to marry Bethenny, as no one can force a man to marry anyone. Men marry because they chose to do it. He could have backed out if he wanted to, but he didn't. I believe he did marry her because he loved her and not just because she was carrying his child.

3. Being greedy - e.g. When your family takes a back seat to your wanting to become the next billionnaire

Again, anyone who saw RHONY knows that she and her mother have for the most part been on bad terms. Bethenny also had "daddy" issues as well. As far as her own family, according to her show, she does try to make time for Jason and is completely devoted to her baby Brynn. So how is her family becoming a back seat to her success?

4. Being a windbag - e.g. talking so much that only your voice is heard

Another trait of her personality. It's not going to change.

5. Airing dirty laundry - e.g. mentioning your husband's shortcomings on national television

That's what comes with being on a reality show, isn't it?

missfee said:

HotGritz said:

I hate to say it (well no I don't) but it's mostly Bethenney's fault her marriage is on the rocks.

The following attributes are not condusive to a healthy marital union:

1. Being a wise ass - e.g. When the woman is a wise ass to everyone INCLUDING her mate

2. Overly dutiful - e.g. When the man decides to marry the woman JUST BECAUSE she is pregnant and the woman says OK COOL

3. Being greedy - e.g. When your family takes a back seat to your wanting to become the next billionnaire

4. Being a windbag - e.g. talking so much that only your voice is heard

5. Airing dirty laundry - e.g. mentioning your husband's shortcomings on national television

For realz, Bethenney done let the success of her company and her reality shows go to her head. Already she's gearing up for a talk show. Where does she find time to be a good wife and mother if her main priority is working, being famous and getting the benjamins? I would have been content to have the skinny girl company but nah....Bethenney gotta go out and conquer the world.

Really you feel that way about Bethenny? From what I've seen from her show, she doesn't appear to be this type woman where her business and money comes before her family. Ok time for some pink. She seems that way to me. I think Skinny Girl has become so big that its her main priority. I understand she has lawsuits going on so its a frequent topic of discussion but...its like every other ep there's mention of her business as if the audience will somehow forget. At least that's the way the season started for me.

1. Being a wise ass - e.g. When the woman is a wise ass to everyone INCLUDING her mate

By watching RHONY from the years she was on it, that is her personality. Being outspoken is who she is. IMO that's what I like about her. In regards to her mate, he knew at least that much before he married her, so if her outspokeness is an issue for him, then that's his fault.

True about Jason knowing that about her from the jump however I do think she takes snarky to another level. Its become her schtick and when you want to become known for a particular personality trait (ala Nene Leakes) it can backfire and go from amusing to annoying real quick.

2. Overly dutiful - e.g. When the man decides to marry the woman JUST BECAUSE she is pregnant and the woman says OK COOL

No one forced Jason to marry Bethenny, as no one can force a man to marry anyone. Men marry because they chose to do it. He could have backed out if he wanted to, but he didn't. I believe he did marry her because he loved her and not just because she was carrying his child. I'm not saying he was forced to marry her. I'm saying had she not been pregnant, he might not have married her. They may have lived together and gotten to know each other a little better. Some people are still old fashioned and think they have to wed before the baby arrives. I mean did she really have to walk down the aisle with a big ole belly? They could have waited. I don't think either of them thought the whole thing through. Even when Bethenney got preggo she said "it just happened". No it didn't. They had unprotected sex which caused it to happen.

3. Being greedy - e.g. When your family takes a back seat to your wanting to become the next billionnaire

Again, anyone who saw RHONY knows that she and her mother have for the most part been on bad terms. Bethenny also had "daddy" issues as well. As far as her own family, according to her show, she does try to make time for Jason and is completely devoted to her baby Brynn. So how is her family becoming a back seat to her success? You should watch that E! True Hollywood Story on her. There's a lot that people either didn't know or forgot. Bethenney has always been on the fast track and started out an actress and reality star before RHONY. She's also had several relationships with very successful men but they never worked out because she was so career driven - allegedly. She said out of her own mouth she wanted to be the next Martha Stewart and was disappointed when she didn't win on Martha's The Apprentice reality show. My point is, fame and money (from my perspective) have been more of a priority for her than marriage and kids. Marriage and kids weren't something she necessarily pursued. IMHO, its easy to take for granted something that maybe you didn't really want in the first place.

4. Being a windbag - e.g. talking so much that only your voice is heard

Another trait of her personality. It's not going to change. True it won't change but it may work against her in the long run.

5. Airing dirty laundry - e.g. mentioning your husband's shortcomings on national television

That's what comes with being on a reality show, isn't it?

Does it? Maybe that's what we've been conditioned to believe with the basketball wives and kartrashians. How can a marriage (or a friendship) be sustained if one belittles' their spouse/friend or starts arguments for tv ratings? Let's not forget. Rumors are abound that her marriage is crumbling. These rumors didn't come from nowhere.

I just think Bethenney needs to step back, put on the breaks and really figure out if this fame thing is worth it. She's conquered reality tv, the liquor business, she's done the modeling and acting thing, and she's managed to acquire a husband and birth a baby. Those are major accomplishements and maybe, just maybe, she should be content with that.

p.s.

I remember that Jason wanted another child and she flat out told him the baby factory was closed. Interesting as it was after Skinny Girl took off. Before that, and before Jason, she wanted like 3 kids at least.

I finally have a hassle-free day off with the holiday going on over here today: finally got a chance to see pt. 1 of the mob wives reunion; damn that Ramona is a trouble maker. I love the fact that Joy Behar's 's retired teacher behind is the Italian Brooklyn school marm trying to keep these crazies in line long enough to get through the reunion. She was actually my first choice as a host, with Leah Remini as second (although Leah Remini screams as loud as the rest of these broads so maybe that's not really a good idea). Big Ang her bad plastic surgery with size J bazookas and that crazy laugh was as usual (for me) the best part of the show. She doesn't take herself seriously at all and that's why she's likeable. Looks like next week the Mob Husbands are showing up, and what's this about Junior being denied entry into the Witness Protection Program for lying about his case??? So he's out there right now having initiated and help set up a bust that took down dozens of mobsters with no protection ? Man, things must not be looking to rosy for him these days

Jeezus on an bicycle. While Tami Roman has reactivated her Twitter and is now using it to spout non-applicable Bible verses and nonsense about becoming more Zen, from the other side of her mouth she's hawking T-shirts glorifying her violent hoodratishness. So much for humbling herself and being authentically remorseful about her behavior towards others and always ready to throw her hands up at the slightest annoyance with another woman. On her website's online shop you too can order a wife beater printed with the following Tamiisms

and this person heads an organization that mentors young girls.

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Ottensen said:

Jeezus on an bicycle. While Tami Roman has reactivated her Twitter and is now using it to spout non-applicable Bible verses and nonsense about becoming more Zen, from the other side of her mouth she's hawking T-shirts glorifying her violent hoodratishness. So much for humbling herself and being authentically remorseful about her behavior towards others and always ready to throw her hands up at the slightest annoyance with another woman. On her website's online shop you too can order a wife beater printed with the following Tamiisms

and this person heads an organization that mentors young girls.

.

Somehow, I knew this was coming. I'd rather get one of Evelyn's "you're a non-muthafuckin-factor" shirts instead....because Tami isn't just a bitch anymore, she's something much worse. Right now, she's making Evelyn look like Red Riding Hood, and even that isn't saying too much.

PS: That "you got 2 minutes" shirt could give men who know nothing about BBall Hoes, the wrong idea and a free invitation...if you know what I mean. Just sayin'.

[Edited 5/28/12 6:16am]

Here's the latest going on with Kim's Tardy Wedding.

Big Ang Spinoff: 'Mob Wives' Reality Star Gets Own Series

Big Ang Spinoff: 'Mob Wiv...Own Series

Big Ang is getting a spinoff.

Big Ang is going out on her own. Angela "Big Ang" Raiola, the "Mob Wives" scene-stealer, is getting her own reality show set to launch on VH1 in summer 2012.

"I, along with everyone I know and our viewers, fell in love with Big Ang from the very first moment we saw her on screen in 'Mob Wives,'" Jeff Olde, EVP of original programming and production at VH1, said in a statement. "Ang is the definition of authentic. What you see is what you get, no apologies. She's enjoying life on her own terms -- and having had the pleasure of hanging out with Big Ang, her friends and family at The Drunken Monkey, I guarantee viewers are in for a real treat."

The 10-episode series, titled "Big Ang," will follow the "Mob Wives" star as she hangs out with her friends and family while focusing on her Staten Island bar, The Drunken Monkey. Expect the other "Mob Wives" and her dog sidekick Lil' Louis to appear. The series was developed from a concept by Jennifer Graziano, the creator of "Jersey Shore," in partnership with Electus, The Weinstein Company and Left/Right.

"I've known Big Ang since I was a kid and can always remember thinking, 'this woman is a star!'" Graziano, of JustJenn Productions, said in a statement. "It gives me great pleasure to be in the position to show the world what I have always seen in her. Big Ang was on my mind for 'Mob Wives' from the start -- I believe she was a great addition for Season 2 and will be an even bigger force to reckon with on her own show! Watch out America ... it's Big Ang!"

Big Ang's spinoff joins "Mob Wives: Chicago" in the growing VH1 franchise.

Big Ang Spinoff: 'Mob Wiv...Own Series

Has anyone else checked out Dina Eastwood's show yet? I post the pre-show link but didn't watch all of it yet. I like how complicated her cultural and ethnic backgraound is: Mrs. Clint Eastwood is a black, white & Japanese woman who was raised in Hawaii by Puerto Ricans. Now that's what you call multi-cultural

With the Kardashians, I watched to find out if Khloe found out who her biological dad is; come to find out she doesn't want to know and that evil mother of hers was trying to push her into having a DNA test. The show also had a kind of sad substory in which Bruce Jenner leaves the house for two days and no one, not even his wife notices. . Those Kardashian women seem to have a special talent for cutting the testicles off their men. Anyhoo, I think I'm getting more curious about Dina's show, although I don't know if I'll maintain interest in her music management storyline.

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For Bravo Housewife fans, if you think RHONY Ramona Singer in a devil in designer shoes, please meet Real Housewives contender for the meanest, snobbiest wife in the entire franchise Real House wives of Vancouver's self described "Martha Stewart on Acid", Jody Claman. She has to be seen to be believed.

Looks like next week resident Brigette Bardot goldigger Christina reveals that after "partying" with Jody's evil, social climbing mini me daughter Mia, Mia spent the night at her apartment: considering after a few drinks Christina said Mia was starting to look very good to her and she started giving her those sex monster looks across the table....I wonder does she mean the notorious wild child Mia spent the night, or, you know, spent the night . If it's the latter Jody will likely have a coronary considering how much she bullies and bashes Christina for her overt sexiness.

Ottensen said:

Big Ang Spinoff: 'Mob Wives' Reality Star Gets Own Series

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Big Ang is getting a spinoff.

Big Ang is going out on her own. Angela "Big Ang" Raiola, the "Mob Wives" scene-stealer, is getting her own reality show set to launch on VH1 in summer 2012.

"I, along with everyone I know and our viewers, fell in love with Big Ang from the very first moment we saw her on screen in 'Mob Wives,'" Jeff Olde, EVP of original programming and production at VH1, said in a statement. "Ang is the definition of authentic. What you see is what you get, no apologies. She's enjoying life on her own terms -- and having had the pleasure of hanging out with Big Ang, her friends and family at The Drunken Monkey, I guarantee viewers are in for a real treat."

The 10-episode series, titled "Big Ang," will follow the "Mob Wives" star as she hangs out with her friends and family while focusing on her Staten Island bar, The Drunken Monkey. Expect the other "Mob Wives" and her dog sidekick Lil' Louis to appear. The series was developed from a concept by Jennifer Graziano, the creator of "Jersey Shore," in partnership with Electus, The Weinstein Company and Left/Right.

"I've known Big Ang since I was a kid and can always remember thinking, 'this woman is a star!'" Graziano, of JustJenn Productions, said in a statement. "It gives me great pleasure to be in the position to show the world what I have always seen in her. Big Ang was on my mind for 'Mob Wives' from the start -- I believe she was a great addition for Season 2 and will be an even bigger force to reckon with on her own show! Watch out America ... it's Big Ang!"

Big Ang's spinoff joins "Mob Wives: Chicago" in the growing VH1 franchise.

Big Ang Spinoff: 'Mob Wiv...Own Series

Oh this should be good. I'm definitely going to tune in.