Ottensen said:

Celebrity Apprentice Spolier Alert:

DING DONG THE BI---, I mean WITCH is DEAD!!!!

I knew this young woman was going to go very far in this competition, she was the whole package. But what she didn't understand (I suppose due to a low emotional intelligence quotient) is that talent, ability, drive, and intellect are nothing without grace.

You talking about somebody who was sooooo happy when Mr. Trump fired her ass for being transparent!!!! So glad. What was even more funnier was that when Clay and Arsenio were picking their team mates for the final task, neither one wanted her, so Clay had to settle with her. I like Clay but

Ottensen said:

The steam is picking up against BB Wives. Although I will point out that after the fight Tanya refers to in this article, the cut the physical drama out of the LA version of BB Wives (from the episodes I saw), and the tensions were different, and less ghetto (if that's even possible in a show format like this). I will likely leave BB Wives Miami alone, but BB Wives will have some promise to deliver drama without people stomping barefoot over tables and throwing bottles a lá Jerry Springer.

Tanya waas edited out of the season in the first 2 episodes of BB Wives LA, I think.

Ex "Basketball Wives" Cas...ck America

Ex “Basketball Wives” Cast Member Tanya Young Says: “Being On Show Was Pure Hell !

Tanya Young was an original member of Vh1′s “Basketball Wives LA” and says it was pure hell!

In the last few days, we have seen protests, petitions and complaints that the Basketball Wives franchise encourages poor esteem and horrid reflections to be cast on Black women. Now comes word that working on the show was horrible.

We posted this letter in response to the poor behavior we saw in Evelyn Lozada: An Open Letter To A “Basketball Wife” Who Has Not Changed!- Revisited

Tanya Young, a member of “The Basketball Wives LA”, told The Daily Beast that old emotions were awakened when she received the latest petition boycotting the show.

She said, “My knowledge of the inner workings of Basketball Wives stems from my role as one, in the inaugural season of Basketball Wives LA. Though I was cautioned against participating in the series, my intention was to change the perception that wives of basketball players are flighty, overly emotional, and senselessly dramatic. I wanted to show interesting aspects of my life and also bring attention to the National Domestic Violence Hotline, for which I am a celebrity spokesperson. But as the proverb goes, “the road to hell is paved with good intentions.” And working on Basketball Wives was sheer hell.”

She wanted to be clear that theshow was not airing just to portray the lives of basketball wives.

Tanya explains,”Within weeks of taping Basketball Wives LA, there was a horrific fight between two cast members while we dined at a swanky Santa Monica restaurant. They argued and eventually fought over who was a “rat” versus a “hoodrat,” who was sleeping with a married man, who was the real bitch, who was fat, and whose teeth were “jacked up.” It was a surreal moment. I was paralyzed by shock and anger. I sat motionless as the women fought over my head and producers worked to break up the melee. However, the cameramen never lost sight of their target: the fight. They captured every moment, from every angle. The footage was the guarantee the producers needed to bait their audience during teasers for the premiere of Basketball Wives LA. As the women pulled out pieces of weave, called each other names, tore each other’s clothing, and struck each other in the face, the producers struck ratings gold—and they knew it.”

You can read the rest of her least favorite minutes and behind the scenes details by visiting the dailybeast.com.

I mean yes, there are plenty of reality shows that depict ALL WOMEN in a bad light, however, BBWives just takes the drama to an all new low. Sure there are plenty of other reality shows where women have argued and fought (Mob Wives, RHOA, RHONJ, Love & Hip Hop) the thing that has me now in boycott mode over it is the bullying factor. They literally CREATE conflict on that show that comes from out of nowhere about the pettiest things to have a reason for the women to physically fight each other. I'm not down for the picking on someone because they are a new cast member type behavior and then resorting to try and play mind games in order to have a reason to beat their ass. At least on Mob Wives, after fighting you have folks trying to resolve issues to PREVENT the physical altercations from happening further.

missfee said:

Ottensen said:

The steam is picking up against BB Wives. Although I will point out that after the fight Tanya refers to in this article, the cut the physical drama out of the LA version of BB Wives (from the episodes I saw), and the tensions were different, and less ghetto (if that's even possible in a show format like this). I will likely leave BB Wives Miami alone, but BB Wives will have some promise to deliver drama without people stomping barefoot over tables and throwing bottles a lá Jerry Springer.

Tanya waas edited out of the season in the first 2 episodes of BB Wives LA, I think.

Ex "Basketball Wives" Cas...ck America

Ex “Basketball Wives” Cast Member Tanya Young Says: “Being On Show Was Pure Hell !

Tanya Young was an original member of Vh1′s “Basketball Wives LA” and says it was pure hell!

In the last few days, we have seen protests, petitions and complaints that the Basketball Wives franchise encourages poor esteem and horrid reflections to be cast on Black women. Now comes word that working on the show was horrible.

We posted this letter in response to the poor behavior we saw in Evelyn Lozada: An Open Letter To A “Basketball Wife” Who Has Not Changed!- Revisited

Tanya Young, a member of “The Basketball Wives LA”, told The Daily Beast that old emotions were awakened when she received the latest petition boycotting the show.

You can read the rest of her least favorite minutes and behind the scenes details by visiting the dailybeast.com.

I mean yes, there are plenty of reality shows that depict ALL WOMEN in a bad light, however, BBWives just takes the drama to an all new low. Sure there are plenty of other reality shows where women have argued and fought (Mob Wives, RHOA, RHONJ, Love & Hip Hop) the thing that has me now in boycott mode over it is the bullying factor. They literally CREATE conflict on that show that comes from out of nowhere about the pettiest things to have a reason for the women to physically fight each other. I'm not down for the picking on someone because they are a new cast member type behavior and then resorting to try and play mind games in order to have a reason to beat their ass. At least on Mob Wives, after fighting you have folks trying to resolve issues to PREVENT the physical altercations from happening further.

The thing with Tanya is that she makes her life and career as a motivational speaker, so she came out of the gate from jump telling VH1 they were full of crap for encouraging toxic drama on their show, and I'm pretty sure hat's why the cut/fired/edited her out. I did notice however that after the first fight in the beginning of the season on LA, everyone throwing punches apologized, admitted they were embarrassed for their families and themselves to be seen acting crazy on tv, and pledged to do better. There were still some serious mind games going on coming from just one cast member, but I dare say they all straightened up and seemed to have more mature, "old lady" issues in comparison to the Miami cast.

Ironically when BB Wives LA first aired Shaunie made it no secret publicly that she thought their cast was sprinkled with trash, somehow as if her show in the franchise was somehow classier and more legit, and in the end, the spin-off from BB Wives turned out to be a lot less high school than her, Evelyn,b& Co. O there's drama to be sure, but just not as violent and playing the Poster Children for Bullying like Shaunie's "circle".

Ottensen said:

missfee said:

I mean yes, there are plenty of reality shows that depict ALL WOMEN in a bad light, however, BBWives just takes the drama to an all new low. Sure there are plenty of other reality shows where women have argued and fought (Mob Wives, RHOA, RHONJ, Love & Hip Hop) the thing that has me now in boycott mode over it is the bullying factor. They literally CREATE conflict on that show that comes from out of nowhere about the pettiest things to have a reason for the women to physically fight each other. I'm not down for the picking on someone because they are a new cast member type behavior and then resorting to try and play mind games in order to have a reason to beat their ass. At least on Mob Wives, after fighting you have folks trying to resolve issues to PREVENT the physical altercations from happening further.

The thing with Tanya is that she makes her life and career as a motivational speaker, so she came out of the gate from jump telling VH1 they were full of crap for encouraging toxic drama on their show, and I'm pretty sure hat's why the cut/fired/edited her out. I did notice however that after the first fight in the beginning of the season on LA, everyone throwing punches apologized, admitted they were embarrassed for their families and themselves to be seen acting crazy on tv, and pledged to do better. There were still some serious mind games going on coming from just one cast member, but I dare say they all straightened up and seemed to have more mature, "old lady" issues in comparison to the Miami cast.

Ironically when BB Wives LA first aired Shaunie made it no secret publicly that she thought their cast was sprinkled with trash, somehow as if her show in the franchise was somehow classier and more legit, and in the end, the spin-off from BB Wives turned out to be a lot less high school than her, Evelyn,b& Co. O there's drama to be sure, but just not as violent and playing the Poster Children for Bullying like Shaunie's "circle".

So basically Shaunie has nothing to do with the BBWives LA show at all even though it's a spin off?

missfee said:

Ottensen said:

The thing with Tanya is that she makes her life and career as a motivational speaker, so she came out of the gate from jump telling VH1 they were full of crap for encouraging toxic drama on their show, and I'm pretty sure hat's why the cut/fired/edited her out. I did notice however that after the first fight in the beginning of the season on LA, everyone throwing punches apologized, admitted they were embarrassed for their families and themselves to be seen acting crazy on tv, and pledged to do better. There were still some serious mind games going on coming from just one cast member, but I dare say they all straightened up and seemed to have more mature, "old lady" issues in comparison to the Miami cast.

Ironically when BB Wives LA first aired Shaunie made it no secret publicly that she thought their cast was sprinkled with trash, somehow as if her show in the franchise was somehow classier and more legit, and in the end, the spin-off from BB Wives turned out to be a lot less high school than her, Evelyn,b& Co. O there's drama to be sure, but just not as violent and playing the Poster Children for Bullying like Shaunie's "circle".

So basically Shaunie has nothing to do with the BBWives LA show at all even though it's a spin off?

I don't think so. And she loves to call the LA cast trash. It just seems so hypocritical, becazse her girls can act a damned fool all ay long and she co-signs their crap and takes up for them, just excuses all their cray cray away.

I think it really just irks her because Gloria Govan left BBWives Miami after them always ganging up on her, but had enough sense to secure her own opportunity with VH1 via BBWives LA. Gloria is also one of the executive producers of the show, and though it does have drama and they had a bad start, you definitely see more of the women's husbands & kids, and you see them working and doing real charity work. Their drama is more along the lines of the kind of stuff we see on Bravo wife shows.

Ottensen said:

missfee said:

So basically Shaunie has nothing to do with the BBWives LA show at all even though it's a spin off?

I don't think so. And she loves to call the LA cast trash. It just seems so hypocritical, becazse her girls can act a damned fool all ay long and she co-signs their crap and takes up for them, just excuses all their cray cray away.

I think it really just irks her because Gloria Govan left BBWives Miami after them always ganging up on her, but had enough sense to secure her own opportunity with VH1 via BBWives LA. Gloria is also one of the executive producers of the show, and though it does have drama and they had a bad start, you definitely see more of the women's husbands & kids, and you see them working and doing real charity work. Their drama is more along the lines of the kind of stuff we see on Bravo wife shows.

Oh I see.

I still think it's bad though.

It's the same show just brought down a few notches.

Draya was the new girl with the past that they all hated.

Tanya tried to be mature and intelligent and that got on the girls nerves.

Jackie was a news carrier but you can't tell me those girls didn't say most of that stuff!

In other words: Gossip, gossip and more gossip.

Mob Wives:

Karen and Drita FINALLY make up, no thanks to Karen, who insisted on bringing up paltry past grievances like Lee, Lee and Lee.

Karen has the worst case of arrested development then any reality show diva I know sans Teresa Gudice. Karen for your own good, shut yourself up in an apartment for about a year, read some magazines and books(start with your fathers), learn some things (like how to be quiet) then get back to us.

RHONJ:

How can ANYONE tell their brother that his wife will probably drop him for another man with more money and not think it's wrong? Especially if you claim you're trying to mend fences.Tteresa is always in denial about her stupidity. And now it seems Gia is starting to act out on television.

I'm a big fan of ClosetFreak but she's a huge Teresa fan and I just can't take it. I skip all RHONJ recaps because of it.

CynicKill said:

Mob Wives:

Karen and Drita FINALLY make up, no thanks to Karen, who insisted on bringing up paltry past grievances like Lee, Lee and Lee.

Karen has the worst case of arrested development then any reality show diva I know sans Teresa Gudice. Karen for your own good, shut yourself up in an apartment for about a year, read some magazines and books(start with your fathers), learn some things (like how to be quiet) then get back to us.

RHONJ:

How can ANYONE tell their brother that his wife will probably drop him for another man with more money and not think it's wrong? Especially if you claim you're trying to mend fences.Tteresa is always in denial about her stupidity. And now it seems Gia is starting to act out on television.

I'm a big fan of ClosetFreak but she's a huge Teresa fan and I just can't take it. I skip all RHONJ recaps because of it.

Damn I feel the exact same way! I just didn't mention it on here, don't know why, but I just kept it to myself. But hell yes, UClosetfreak on YT is definitely a big Teresa stan, and usually I love her recaps but I disagree with most of what she says on her recaps for RHONJ. Whether you like Teresa or not, she still needs to be held responsible for the bullshit and rawkus she causes...but the woman WILL NOT ever fess up to anything she does wrong. Even if she feels deep down that she is truly wrong, she's not going to say it. That's why that whole conversation last night was straight up pointless. But there's something else too though, her brother is the same way, I didn't exactly hear him say that he had made any mistakes either. So they are just alike. As far as I'm concerned, what Joe Guidice said about her brother hit the nail on the head. And didn't he call Kathy a "frog face"? Mean yes, but still funny as hell.

typo edit

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missfee said:

CynicKill said:

Mob Wives:

Karen and Drita FINALLY make up, no thanks to Karen, who insisted on bringing up paltry past grievances like Lee, Lee and Lee.

Karen has the worst case of arrested development then any reality show diva I know sans Teresa Gudice. Karen for your own good, shut yourself up in an apartment for about a year, read some magazines and books(start with your fathers), learn some things (like how to be quiet) then get back to us.

RHONJ:

How can ANYONE tell their brother that his wife will probably drop him for another man with more money and not think it's wrong? Especially if you claim you're trying to mend fences.Tteresa is always in denial about her stupidity. And now it seems Gia is starting to act out on television.

I'm a big fan of ClosetFreak but she's a huge Teresa fan and I just can't take it. I skip all RHONJ recaps because of it.

Damn I feel the exact same way! I just didn't mention it on here, don't know why, but I just kept it to myself. But hell yes, UClosetfreak on YT is definitely a big Teresa stan, and usually I love her recaps but I disagree with most of what she says on her recaps for RHONJ. Whether you like Teresa or not, she still needs to be held responsible for the bullshit and rawkus she causes...but the woman WILL NOT ever fess up to anything she does wrong. Even if she feels deep down that she is truly wrong, she's not going to say it. That's why that whole conversation last night was straight up pointless. But there's something else too though, her brother is the same way, I didn't exactly here him say that he had made any mistakes either. So they are just alike. As far as I'm concerned, what Joe Guidice said about her brother hit the nail on the head. And didn't he call Kathy a "frog face"? Mean yes, but still funny as hell.

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Even so I never get the feeling Joe Gorga starts things like Teresa. If he says anything about Joe it's because Joe said something about him. Listening to that conversation I got the feeling that Joe Gudice NEVER liked Joe Gorga, and for no reason. Just like when Joe sent him threatening text, of course he retaliated and told her to try and talk to her husband. I feel Teresa and Joe Gudice instigate everything. After the instigation anything that comes after is just response. Kinda like when Nia slapped Jennifer and then expected Jen not to trash talk about her?!?!?

Teresa is going to go on about Melissa copying her about those stupid kids swimming suits that they both probably got from Target during a clearance sale. It's petty and stupid. If I were Melissa Teresa would be invisible.

Yeah the frog face comment was humorous, but Joe went way too far, trashing everyone he could think of. By that time I was like yeah Joe, we get it, you don't like anyone.

CynicKill said:

missfee said:

Damn I feel the exact same way! I just didn't mention it on here, don't know why, but I just kept it to myself. But hell yes, UClosetfreak on YT is definitely a big Teresa stan, and usually I love her recaps but I disagree with most of what she says on her recaps for RHONJ. Whether you like Teresa or not, she still needs to be held responsible for the bullshit and rawkus she causes...but the woman WILL NOT ever fess up to anything she does wrong. Even if she feels deep down that she is truly wrong, she's not going to say it. That's why that whole conversation last night was straight up pointless. But there's something else too though, her brother is the same way, I didn't exactly hear him say that he had made any mistakes either. So they are just alike. As far as I'm concerned, what Joe Guidice said about her brother hit the nail on the head. And didn't he call Kathy a "frog face"? Mean yes, but still funny as hell.

[Edited 5/14/12 10:38am]

Even so I never get the feeling Joe Gorga starts things like Teresa. If he says anything about Joe it's because Joe said something about him. Listening to that conversation I got the feeling that Joe Gudice NEVER liked Joe Gorga, and for no reason. Just like when Joe sent him threatening text, of course he retaliated and told her to try and talk to her husband. I feel Teresa and Joe Gudice instigate everything. After the instigation anything that comes after is just response. Kinda like when Nia slapped Jennifer and then expected Jen not to trash talk about her?!?!?

Teresa is going to go on about Melissa copying her about those stupid kids swimming suits that they both probably got from Target during a clearance sale. It's petty and stupid. If I were Melissa Teresa would be invisible.

Yeah the frog face comment was humorous, but Joe went way too far, trashing everyone he could think of. By that time I was like yeah Joe, we get it, you don't like anyone.

He may not start things, but he doesn't fess up to some mistakes he's made in the ongoing arguements either. When I said that he's just like Teresa, I meant in the way of not admitting that he has any fault and blames Teresa for everything. She may start it, but he definitely feeds into it instead of taking the higher road. Sure, I agree when he told his wife about the infamous golddigger comment Teresa made about her, as a loyal husband, he was right in discussing it with his wife but it's like he didn't stop there, he told the Wakilies and Rosie and probably the mail man down the street too. With his wife as an exception, he should had confronted Teresa about the comment long ago instead of waiting until AFTER he had discussed his discernment about it with everyone on the planet. By that time, Teresa was more than prepared to be defensive when they talked about it one on one. All I'm saying is this, Teresa starts it and Joe Gorga keeps it going. He should know Teresa by now. She does some hateful shit, so why feed into it and give her the satisfaction? He could literally finish what she started by saying okay you got it Teresa, i'll let you be delusional, and then walk away and leave it alone. Especially when he knows his wife isn't a golddigger at all. It should had rolled off his back. When he went running his mouth about it to everyone BUT Teresa, to me, in my eyes it made him a little whiny bitch.

Furthermore, I don't get why Kathy goes on the Bravo site blogs and says how hurt she and Richie are by the comments made about them as they are watching the season...umm they BOTH talk too but when they confronted about it, it's all "jokes"...right. I have to side with Teresa on this one. Yes her and Joe say some mean things, but the rest can say some pretty mean things as well too. So why complain when you do the same thing? Everybody talks behind everyone's back, duh. That's the whole purpose of those individual interviews.

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"BBW" Stars Get DELICIOUS For The "BBW" Reunion + Shaunie O'Neal APOLOGIZES And Says There Will Be MORE BALANCE

May 2012 14

Okay another RHONJ sidebar:

If you guys go to the Bravotv website, the ladies have posted their blogs regarding the episode last night....Melissa, after giving her opinion about the whole Guidice/Gorga drama, goes OUT OF HER WAY to explain and give specific details regarding her and her husband selling their home. Mmmmkay. Why does she feel the need to explain why they are putting it up for sale, and giving details about what they are keeping with them and how they didn't just move into their current home just to be on the show? Yes confusing as hell. Umm who cares, if you are moving then move, why are you giving all this extra unneeded information that isn't anyone's business but yours and your family's? Something in the water doesn't compute.

banks said:

May 2012 14

Basketball Wives Tami Roman Suggests Keisha Has A Producer In Her Pocket0

Posted In Blog

On her personal blog site, Basketball Wives’ Tami Roman defends and explains her teeter-tottering friendship with Royce, tance with Jennifer and why she’s taken her particular stance with Keisha. In her post, titled ‘Bitch, Bitch & More Bitch’ she even infers that perhaps, Keisha has an advantage because she knows one of the producers. Peep a few excerpts below:

Keisha:

To be clear, upon meeting you, I asked you respectfully to discuss anything you had to say about me…WITH ME. I wasn’t confrontational nor was I argumentative. Of course that part was edited out of the show; however you, Royce and Kenya know what I said. When you spoke to Evelyn about me; it wasn’t what you said, but the fact that you said it. I don’t walk around with boxing gloves on and I don’t fight everyone I meet. I just feel you should’ve been a real woman and brought your concerns “directly” to me. I can assure you that if you had our dealings with each other might not be so rocky.

Do me a favor, don’t be such a liar and manipulator. I know you have friends in high “Executive Producer” places, but let’s keep this all the way real.

Sidebar:

I am NOT a bully. People don’t understand that Keisha is NOT innocent in this matter and she does a great deal of lip boxing behind the scenes. I am not going to try and be respectful when I have been disrespected numerous times…off camera. If you are bold enough to talk behind my back, then you should be grown enough to handle the repercussions of your actions and words. The editors have done a wonderful job of putting my outbursts on the show but not showing the full chain of events. My outbursts are real, but they are also driven by something which is conveniently being edited out when it comes to Keisha. Wish I had an executive producer in my pocket…I’m just saying

Tami has also apologized to Keisha:

Bullshit, bullshit and more bullshit.

Yeah I hear what you're saying about Joe and his "confessional" way of living. I just never paid that much attention because they all talk so damn much about each other.

Tami Tami Tami...

Stop.

Please!

You're a loose canon with no self-control. When you act like a crazy fool you don't want anyone to discuss it yet you get to talk about other cast members behind their backs.

You're not humble and unapologetic.

That is all.

As for Melissa and all those details; I figure she has a PR person sitting next to her while blogging feeding her what and what not to blog about. Otherwise I don't think she whould've done it. It makes no sense, UNLESS there was local news in their area around the time and she freaked out. *shrug*

banks said:

"BBW" Stars Get DELICIOUS For The "BBW" Reunion + Shaunie O'Neal APOLOGIZES And Says There Will Be MORE BALANCE

May 14 | by _YBF

The controversial stars of "BBW" taped their reunion special recently and we have pics inside. Also, find out what Shaunie O'Neal said as she apologized for the past season and promised more balance.

Her enemy, Evelyn Lozada went with a teal skirt and and black top that showed off her ample bosom.

And newly single Royce Reed got chummy with castmate Kesha Nichols.

But where was Tami Roman? In a tweet posted a few days ago, it seemed as though Tami might not be coming back next year. It has not been confirmed....but we know missing a reunion taping is a big "contract" no-no.

And perhaps the most shocking moment was Shaunie O'Neal coming clean and basically apologizing for the way the women were portrayed on the show. She owned up to the "bad" outweighing the "good" but did highlight that there were some positive things shown this year. But the question is.....do you buy it?

Watch Shaunie express her disappointment here:

Also, Shed Media and VH1 both released statements about the negative feedback the show has gotten.

Shed Media said,

“Shed Media US is fully committed to telling the compelling stories of the Basketball Wives in a balanced way. Our producing partner Shaunie O’Neal feels strongly about this, and we fully agree with this stance. We support her as she encourages the cast members to work out issues in a non-violent fashion. We look forward to working with her and the rest of the cast on conveying more balance in the next season.”

And VH1 said,

“Our viewers opinions always matter a great deal to us at VH1. Lately, there has been a lot of conversation about Basketball Wives, a series featuring strong, intelligent women with very passionate viewpoints, which can sometimes escalate.

We at VH1 agree with and support Shaunie and the show producers’ “no excessive physical confrontations” policy on the series moving forward. We are all committed to balancing the candid, bold excitement that the viewers have come to love in the series with storylines and representations they can be proud of. Shaunie has been a strong advocate for a more balanced approach to the show and we, along with our producing partners at Shed Media, are all in agreement about moving forward with that goal.”

Do you think "BBW" will survive without the fighting and drinking tossing so many have come to love or loathe?

http://theybf.com/2012/05...there-will

Evelyn's bangs are cute. Too bad they are the dead give away to her recent re-edited &

inserted talking heads and ovious reshoots on the show to clean up the PR debacle that was her attacking Jen, Kenya, and being played for a fool on national television by Chad Ochocinco.

Now about that bolded part...

...has anyone on the Public Realtions team for this show actually ever listened to anything that comes out of the mouths of the women who make up this cast ...

Honey, BYE with that bull crap.

missfee said:

Okay another RHONJ sidebar:

If you guys go to the Bravotv website, the ladies have posted their blogs regarding the episode last night....Melissa, after giving her opinion about the whole Guidice/Gorga drama, goes OUT OF HER WAY to explain and give specific details regarding her and her husband selling their home. Mmmmkay. Why does she feel the need to explain why they are putting it up for sale, and giving details about what they are keeping with them and how they didn't just move into their current home just to be on the show? Yes confusing as hell. Umm who cares, if you are moving then move, why are you giving all this extra unneeded information that isn't anyone's business but yours and your family's? Something in the water doesn't compute.

'Cause the tabloids are going after her and Joey Gorga as being broke for the last 2 days or so. One of the showbiz blogs I sub to just arrived not too long ago claiming that there's trouble in Gorga Land with money. I don't even believe it, just sounds like a planted story to me and I guess Melissa's trying to combat the rumors.

Ottensen said:

missfee said:

Okay another RHONJ sidebar:

If you guys go to the Bravotv website, the ladies have posted their blogs regarding the episode last night....Melissa, after giving her opinion about the whole Guidice/Gorga drama, goes OUT OF HER WAY to explain and give specific details regarding her and her husband selling their home. Mmmmkay. Why does she feel the need to explain why they are putting it up for sale, and giving details about what they are keeping with them and how they didn't just move into their current home just to be on the show? Yes confusing as hell. Umm who cares, if you are moving then move, why are you giving all this extra unneeded information that isn't anyone's business but yours and your family's? Something in the water doesn't compute.

'Cause the tabloids are going after her and Joey Gorga as being broke for the last 2 days or so. One of the showbiz blogs I sub to just arrived not too long ago claiming that there's trouble in Gorga Land with money. I don't even believe it, just sounds like a planted story to me and I guess Melissa's trying to combat the rumors.

Oh for real? Because I hadn't heard any rumors at all until I read her blog on the Bravo site today. That's why I was lost.

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banks said:

"BBW" Stars Get DELICIOUS For The "BBW" Reunion + Shaunie O'Neal APOLOGIZES And Says There Will Be MORE BALANCE

May 14 | by _YBF

Shaunie's hair is FIERCE!!! That's exactly how I want my hair cut.

CynicKill said:

Yeah I hear what you're saying about Joe and his "confessional" way of living. I just never paid that much attention because they all talk so damn much about each other.

Tami Tami Tami...

Stop.

Please!

You're a loose canon with no self-control. When you act like a crazy fool you don't want anyone to discuss it yet you get to talk about other cast members behind their backs.

You're not humble and unapologetic.

That is all.

As for Melissa and all those details; I figure she has a PR person sitting next to her while blogging feeding her what and what not to blog about. Otherwise I don't think she whould've done it. It makes no sense, UNLESS there was local news in their area around the time and she freaked out. *shrug*

Exactly.

Exactly again.

Ottie cleared up some things for me. Apparently rumors are flying that they are broke. Can't say I can believe that because of all them damn properties they got. If they really are broke and yet own all that stuff, then that's really sad. But dang, they already had a big ass house, now they building another one? Oh yeah I forgot, she said she wanted to move back to Franklin Lakes, that's right. Closer to Caroline & 'nem I suppose.

missfee said:

CynicKill said:

Yeah I hear what you're saying about Joe and his "confessional" way of living. I just never paid that much attention because they all talk so damn much about each other.

Tami Tami Tami...

Stop.

Please!

You're a loose canon with no self-control. When you act like a crazy fool you don't want anyone to discuss it yet you get to talk about other cast members behind their backs.

You're not humble and unapologetic.

That is all.

As for Melissa and all those details; I figure she has a PR person sitting next to her while blogging feeding her what and what not to blog about. Otherwise I don't think she whould've done it. It makes no sense, UNLESS there was local news in their area around the time and she freaked out. *shrug*

Exactly.

Exactly again.

Ottie cleared up some things for me. Apparently rumors are flying that they are broke. Can't say I can believe that because of all them damn properties they got. If they really are broke and yet own all that stuff, then that's really sad. But dang, they already had a big ass house, now they building another one? Oh yeah I forgot, she said she wanted to move back to Franklin Lakes, that's right. Closer to Caroline & 'nem I suppose.

Neither can I. They have residential properties, and they also build/own corporate properties in New York. Joey has done very well for himself and I'm kinda suspicious about the romors; I hate to say it ,but I suspect that these might be stories being fed to the tabloids by "Team Teresa". Teresa already has a very public relationship with certain tabloids where she openly admits she gets money for stories on her saga. Even if it isn't Teresa feeding stories herself, although I'm still giving her the side eye for saying Melissa was a stripper (false, she was a bartender in a strip club and the owners publicly defended Melissa against the lie), oh and for saying Melissa would leave Joey for a richer man, OH, and then implying during that fight with Melissa that her marriage was on the rocks - I'm telling you, even if she's not planting stories herself I could easily imagine one of Teresa's minions placing a phone call here or there as a "secret source" .

It's official. Tami is CRAZY

She needs to go. NOW. I don't want to hear her excuses anymore about being disrespected, and her anger stemming from her rapes and abuse. It does NOT give you a free pass to terrorize people. It does NOT.

Tami Roman is a mentally disturbed sociopath and she needs off the show. Point, blank, period.

I know Closet Freak is Team Teresa, but I have to give it to her for this latest analysis:

here dissects the nature of Evelyn Lazada and Chad Ochocinco's "faux" relationship, and it's not what a person would think she means by "faux"- you can see her break down the BS here;

Ottensen said:

I know Closet Freak is Team Teresa, but I have to give it to her for this latest analysis:

here dissects the nature of Evelyn Lazada and Chad Ochocinco's "faux" relationship, and it's not what a person would think she means by "faux"- you can see her break down the BS here;

Oh yeah! She was on point here, I saw this a couple of days ago and agreed. The only view I don't agree with her on is with RHONJ, but it's all good. Her recaps are so hilarious!

Ottensen said:

It's official. Tami is CRAZY

She needs to go. NOW. I don't want to hear her excuses anymore about being disrespected, and her anger stemming from her rapes and abuse. It does NOT give you a free pass to terrorize people. It does NOT.

Tami Roman is a mentally disturbed sociopath and she needs off the show. Point, blank, period.

She must had really gone off the deep end in last night's episode. Girl I skipped it like I said I would. I am though going to catch Closet Freak's synopsis on the episode today when I get off from work.

missfee said:

Ottensen said:

It's official. Tami is CRAZY

She needs to go. NOW. I don't want to hear her excuses anymore about being disrespected, and her anger stemming from her rapes and abuse. It does NOT give you a free pass to terrorize people. It does NOT.

Tami Roman is a mentally disturbed sociopath and she needs off the show. Point, blank, period.

She must had really gone off the deep end in last night's episode. Girl I skipped it like I said I would. I am though going to catch Closet Freak's synopsis on the episode today when I get off from work.

Otherwise you know I'll be posting a link here . There are some other youtube reviewers that already put up their synopsis and girl people are mad as HELL about they way that mess went down on Monday's show. If it wasn't so early in the morning when I watched that episode I think I would have needed a drink afterwards. I'm telling you, black women across America collectively had their blood pressure shot up watching Tami just be a terrorist.

Evelyn is selfish, mean and evil, but Tami is just plain sick and a danger to herself and others. Heffa reminded me of f*ckin' Heath Ledger as the last Joker in Batman---a sociopath without remorse. And those fools (Shaunie, Ev, & Suzie) had her back, even if it was reluctantly!!! What made my damn spleen start hurting was that after Tami terrorized Kesha and stole her stuff, everyone had the nerve to say Kesha was wrong for reporting it to hotel security! HELLO, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN HOW THE GIRL's BELONGINGS WERE ACQUIRED ,Kesha was running away in survival mode so she wouldn't get her little ass beat by Sasquatch and had to make a choice!!!

For a grown ass woman to put her hands on, take possession of & refuse to return another person's belongings is wrong. Then to dangle the return of said belongings as an implied sort of ass-whooping as blackmail for their return???? WTF??

I hope Tami's back knee-deep into her B-list Hollywood projects to get paid, because we do not need to see her in this show format anymore. This show needs a new cast. There is nowhere else for the characters to go after this season.

Ottensen said:

missfee said:

She must had really gone off the deep end in last night's episode. Girl I skipped it like I said I would. I am though going to catch Closet Freak's synopsis on the episode today when I get off from work.

Otherwise you know I'll be posting a link here . There are some other youtube reviewers that already put up their synopsis and girl people are mad as HELL about they way that mess went down on Monday's show. If it wasn't so early in the morning when I watched that episode I think I would have needed a drink afterwards. I'm telling you, black women across America collectively had their blood pressure shot up watching Tami just be a terrorist.

Evelyn is selfish, mean and evil, but Tami is just plain sick and a danger to herself and others. Heffa reminded me of f*ckin' Heath Ledger as the last Joker in Batman---a sociopath without remorse. And those fools (Shaunie, Ev, & Suzie) had her back, even if it was reluctantly!!! What made my damn spleen start hurting was that after Tami terrorized Kesha and stole her stuff, everyone had the nerve to say Kesha was wrong for reporting it to hotel security! HELLO, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN HOW THE GIRL's BELONGINGS WERE ACQUIRED ,Kesha was running away in survival mode so she wouldn't get her little ass beat by Sasquatch and had to make a choice!!!

For a grown ass woman to put her hands on, take possession of & refuse to return another person's belongings is wrong. Then to dangle the return of said belongings as an implied sort of ass-whooping as blackmail for their return???? WTF??

I hope Tami's back knee-deep into her B-list Hollywood projects to get paid, because we do not need to see her in this show format anymore. This show needs a new cast. There is nowhere else for the characters to go after this season.

What's worse is how you mentioned that Shaunie, Evelyn and Suzie went along with and sided with Tami???!!!! WTF? Do any of these women have any balls at all? I think that would have had my blood pressure up more than anything that NO ONE stood up for Kesha at all while she was being terrorized. All respect is lost for this show and the ladies on it.

missfee said:

Ottensen said:

It's official. Tami is CRAZY

She needs to go. NOW. I don't want to hear her excuses anymore about being disrespected, and her anger stemming from her rapes and abuse. It does NOT give you a free pass to terrorize people. It does NOT.

Tami Roman is a mentally disturbed sociopath and she needs off the show. Point, blank, period.

She must had really gone off the deep end in last night's episode. Girl I skipped it like I said I would. I am though going to catch Closet Freak's synopsis on the episode today when I get off from work.

I really liked Tami when she started because she was the one chick that was checking Evelyn and Jen. But that shit she did last night made my stomach turn.. Shit she even made Evelyn cried cause the way the she treated that poor girl ( but Evelyn doesn't want any problems with Tami) But Tami needs to go!!!

missfee said:

Ottensen said:

Otherwise you know I'll be posting a link here . There are some other youtube reviewers that already put up their synopsis and girl people are mad as HELL about they way that mess went down on Monday's show. If it wasn't so early in the morning when I watched that episode I think I would have needed a drink afterwards. I'm telling you, black women across America collectively had their blood pressure shot up watching Tami just be a terrorist.

Evelyn is selfish, mean and evil, but Tami is just plain sick and a danger to herself and others. Heffa reminded me of f*ckin' Heath Ledger as the last Joker in Batman---a sociopath without remorse. And those fools (Shaunie, Ev, & Suzie) had her back, even if it was reluctantly!!! What made my damn spleen start hurting was that after Tami terrorized Kesha and stole her stuff, everyone had the nerve to say Kesha was wrong for reporting it to hotel security! HELLO, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN HOW THE GIRL's BELONGINGS WERE ACQUIRED ,Kesha was running away in survival mode so she wouldn't get her little ass beat by Sasquatch and had to make a choice!!!

For a grown ass woman to put her hands on, take possession of & refuse to return another person's belongings is wrong. Then to dangle the return of said belongings as an implied sort of ass-whooping as blackmail for their return???? WTF??

I hope Tami's back knee-deep into her B-list Hollywood projects to get paid, because we do not need to see her in this show format anymore. This show needs a new cast. There is nowhere else for the characters to go after this season.

What's worse is how you mentioned that Shaunie, Evelyn and Suzie went along with and sided with Tami???!!!! WTF? Do any of these women have any balls at all? I think that would have had my blood pressure up more than anything that NO ONE stood up for Kesha at all while she was being terrorized. All respect is lost for this show and the ladies on it.

They stood up for her in explaining and trying to rationalize Tami's behavior instead of just flat out saying she was wrong. They said they felt bad for Kesha because she basically just looked like a helpless child (Evelyn even had the nerve to cry for her out of sympathy at one point ), but that she should have apologized to Tami and she shouldn't have run away and left her purse. You know what, I think all these broads are just scared of Tami. She rules this roost of hens by way of fear and I think even though Shaunie is rich and well connected with some pretty strong power srings, I really just see her as a pimp on this show, living off the fat of these fools' fuckery with high ratings as her bottom line interest. Besides, as long as it's not her acting the fool and showing her ass, she can always explain herself away as not being the guilty party and not having control over final editing. I'm telling you, she's pimping these chicks like street whores

Now that these last 2 episodes have aired, I'm wondering if movie mogul Tracey Edmonds is having "Buyer's Remorse" about signing a deal with Shaunie to turn this tv show into a movie. This hood-rattish-ness doesn't need to be mentioned anywhere in the same breath as "Soul Food" or "Jumping the Broom"