I'm about the embark on the most intense physical training program that I have done

in at least 15 years starting on Thursday. I'm going to shed roughty 25 kilos, and

attempt to get back to 90% raw-vegan lifestyle.

You see, this year I turned 40. And, I'm feeling it a bit lately.

I don't want diabetes (I don't have it), weak bones, a frail body, or excess weight.

..And I'm decided, now is the time to turn all of it around. I simply have no intention

of dying the way my father or his siblings died.

I'm not sure why I'm telling you fucks this, but I thought I'd post it somewhere.

For the first time, I feel my mortality. I feel it seeping into me, and it's a feeling

I'm going to fight.

Steve Jobs said it best, "even those of us who are not afraid of death don't want

to have to die to get there."

I'm not afraid of death. I'm even resigned that I may be well past the mid-way

point towards dying. But, I'm not going to go out without some battle.

This is the first time in ages that it's felt so urgent to me. Before, it was always

about trying to get back into the prime shape that I used to be in...to get laid easier.

Now, it's about how I want to meet my maker, and what kind of shape I want to

be in when that day comes. I know....I'm absolutely certain now that the shape you

are in pyshically affects the way you think and feel. And I don't want my mind

clouded in a haze.

OK, I'm done.

Any of you getting into shape? Got tips?

I'm not sure why I'm telling you fucks this, but I thought I'd post it somewhere.

XxAxX said:

I'm not sure why I'm telling you fucks this, but I thought I'd post it somewhere.

I meant that in a loving way, of course.

As I posted on another thread, I'm about to embark on a pretty seriously restrictive diet.

My goal is to lose 40ish pounds.

I'm sick of being overweight. I had a good few years maintaining the loss I had in 2009, now it's time to get serious again and get down into a better weight range.

My motivations are almost all vanity, though. I'm very healthy otherwise.

I don't really need to lose weight, I just need to shift it from my belly to my shoulders

But dan, I wonder if you are setting realistic goals.

90% raw-vegan? Is that something you can sustain, or will you fall off the wagon?

NDRU said:

But dan, I wonder if you are setting realistic goals.

90% raw-vegan? Is that something you can sustain, or will you fall off the wagon?

If I had adequate facilities and bugets, it would be 100% sustainable. I enjoy eating vegan,

and don't miss meat or cooked food when I'm on it.

Realistically, I think I'll be doing 40% raw vegan, but I'm aiming for 90% despite.

I figure aim highest you can, so even if you don't reach it, you've moved in the right

direction further than you are.

You lose weight quickly when you're on it, but that's not my main motivation.

My main motivation is fear of cancer and health problems.

The looking better stuff just comes with the territory, and I'm cute already.

I always thought fasting was silly and weird until I saw this movie, and it has made me want to go on a juice fast

CarrieMpls said:

As I posted on another thread, I'm about to embark on a pretty seriously restrictive diet.

My goal is to lose 40ish pounds.

I'm sick of being overweight. I had a good few years maintaining the loss I had in 2009, now it's time to get serious again and get down into a better weight range.

My motivations are almost all vanity, though. I'm very healthy otherwise.

I remeber seeing something on HGTV where a woman who had transformed her

house from a dump in to a beautiful living space, said that you don't have a pretty

house because you want to keep it clean anymore than you have a nice body because

you want to avoid being overweight.

You have these things because you want your hosue to look better. What she was

saying is that vanity is more powerful than fear of being tired of something.

I kind of agree with her. I remember when I was younger how restrictive my

eating could be and how hard I worked out at the gym. The past 8 or 9 years,

I've told myself that it is cruel, but when I think about it, during the years that

I did it, I was perfectly happy and didn't feel like I was missing out on anything.

I look at junk food and being lazy sort of like foreskin. Sure, it may be absolutely

delicious, but you won't miss a damned thing not having it, especially if your

penis looks so nice and cut.

imago said:

NDRU said:

But dan, I wonder if you are setting realistic goals.

90% raw-vegan? Is that something you can sustain, or will you fall off the wagon?

If I had adequate facilities and bugets, it would be 100% sustainable. I enjoy eating vegan,

and don't miss meat or cooked food when I'm on it.

Realistically, I think I'll be doing 40% raw vegan, but I'm aiming for 90% despite.

I figure aim highest you can, so even if you don't reach it, you've moved in the right

direction further than you are.

You lose weight quickly when you're on it, but that's not my main motivation.

My main motivation is fear of cancer and health problems.

The looking better stuff just comes with the territory, and I'm cute already.

That makes sense, shoot for 90%, expect 40%.

I think too many people diet with an all-or-nothing approach, and it ends up being nothing.

NDRU said:

I always thought fasting was silly and weird until I saw this movie, and it has made me want to go on a juice fast

I am of the school of mind that KNOWS fasting is helpful from experience.

I kicked sinusitus with fasting.

NDRU said:

imago said:

If I had adequate facilities and bugets, it would be 100% sustainable. I enjoy eating vegan,

and don't miss meat or cooked food when I'm on it.

Realistically, I think I'll be doing 40% raw vegan, but I'm aiming for 90% despite.

I figure aim highest you can, so even if you don't reach it, you've moved in the right

direction further than you are.

You lose weight quickly when you're on it, but that's not my main motivation.

My main motivation is fear of cancer and health problems.

The looking better stuff just comes with the territory, and I'm cute already.

That makes sense, shoot for 90%, expect 40%.

I think too many people diet with an all-or-nothing approach, and it ends up being nothing.

I can't remember who taught me this, but I learned that if you make a list that is impossible to

accomplish in a week, and strive to accomplish it in a week, you'll accomplish so much more

than you normally would have if you didn't aim too high, even if you don't (and wont) reach

your goal.

It's sort of like the studies done on eating. If you're given a plate that is simply too much

food to eat, you'll eat far more than you would have if given a smaller plate that was also

difficult to finish.

I think the same things apply to positive stuff.

Go for it, man. I know you're the kind who can really pull it off and stick to it. You learned that persistence shit from Buddha (although he obviously didn't manage to pull off his personal "Mid Life Boot Camp").

All the best!

imago said:

NDRU said:

That makes sense, shoot for 90%, expect 40%.

I think too many people diet with an all-or-nothing approach, and it ends up being nothing.

I can't remember who taught me this, but I learned that if you make a list that is impossible to

accomplish in a week, and strive to accomplish it in a week, you'll accomplish so much more

than you normally would have if you didn't aim too high, even if you don't (and wont) reach

your goal.

It's sort of like the studies done on eating. If you're given a plate that is simply too much

food to eat, you'll eat far more than you would have if given a smaller plate that was also

difficult to finish.

I think the same things apply to positive stuff.

I totally get what you're saying, but I think what works for some people won't work for others, though.

For me, I need realistic goals that I can accomplish. If I make my goals too high and don't get there, I only see the failure. The key is knowing what's realistic and being willing to stretch yourself. I need a taste of success to keep me going. If I'm constantly not making it I get extremely discouraged and I give up. So smaller goals along the way help encourage me. I don't see any point in making goals I have no intention of achieving.

Dave1992 said:

Go for it, man. I know you're the kind who can really pull it off and stick to it. You learned that persistence shit from Buddha (although he obviously didn't manage to pull off his personal "Mid Life Boot Camp").

All the best!

I'll admit, Dave. I kind of want to be like you, having pussy lined up for miles trying to get

through my revolving door. But, I throw a bit of cock and asshole into the mix too.

I mean, that's not my motivating factor...But hey, I'm a visionary.

CarrieMpls said:

imago said:

I can't remember who taught me this, but I learned that if you make a list that is impossible to

accomplish in a week, and strive to accomplish it in a week, you'll accomplish so much more

than you normally would have if you didn't aim too high, even if you don't (and wont) reach

your goal.

It's sort of like the studies done on eating. If you're given a plate that is simply too much

food to eat, you'll eat far more than you would have if given a smaller plate that was also

difficult to finish.

I think the same things apply to positive stuff.

I totally get what you're saying, but I think what works for some people won't work for others, though.

For me, I need realistic goals that I can accomplish. If I make my goals too high and don't get there, I only see the failure. The key is knowing what's realistic and being willing to stretch yourself. I need a taste of success to keep me going. If I'm constantly not making it I get extremely discouraged and I give up. So smaller goals along the way help encourage me. I don't see any point in making goals I have no intention of achieving.

Yes, too many people do diets that they cannot sustain. They eat celery for a week and then binge on hamburgers.

It goes for the fasts, too. They fast and lose a bunch of weight, but don't change their habits afterward.

I need to learn to limit my portions and exercise more. That's about it.

CarrieMpls said:

imago said:

I can't remember who taught me this, but I learned that if you make a list that is impossible to

accomplish in a week, and strive to accomplish it in a week, you'll accomplish so much more

than you normally would have if you didn't aim too high, even if you don't (and wont) reach

your goal.

It's sort of like the studies done on eating. If you're given a plate that is simply too much

food to eat, you'll eat far more than you would have if given a smaller plate that was also

difficult to finish.

I think the same things apply to positive stuff.

I totally get what you're saying, but I think what works for some people won't work for others, though.

For me, I need realistic goals that I can accomplish. If I make my goals too high and don't get there, I only see the failure. The key is knowing what's realistic and being willing to stretch yourself. I need a taste of success to keep me going. If I'm constantly not making it I get extremely discouraged and I give up. So smaller goals along the way help encourage me. I don't see any point in making goals I have no intention of achieving.

That's me in business. I never set impossible goals, because that means I can't deliver, and that's not good.

But, I honestly LOVE Steve JOb's reality distortion mentality where he reached for insanely impossible tasks, and this lead to all sorts of improvements in his products.

To me imagination is more important righ tnow than pragmatism. I've played things safe for a bit too long. I'm ready for some boogie action. We'll see how things turn out later this year.

NDRU said:

CarrieMpls said:

I totally get what you're saying, but I think what works for some people won't work for others, though.

For me, I need realistic goals that I can accomplish. If I make my goals too high and don't get there, I only see the failure. The key is knowing what's realistic and being willing to stretch yourself. I need a taste of success to keep me going. If I'm constantly not making it I get extremely discouraged and I give up. So smaller goals along the way help encourage me. I don't see any point in making goals I have no intention of achieving.

Yes, too many people do diets that they cannot sustain. They eat celery for a week and then binge on hamburgers.

It goes for the fasts, too. They fast and lose a bunch of weight, but don't change their habits afterward.

I need to learn to limit my portions and exercise more. That's about it.

UGH.

I hate it when people fast ot lose weight. It's NOT a diet solution.

It will, however, improve your health...often dramatically.

I can see the pragmatic approach here, but I'm totally not going for pragmatic.

I'm going for insanely intense....INSANELY INTENSE.... Like my threads.

imago said:

Dave1992 said:

Go for it, man. I know you're the kind who can really pull it off and stick to it. You learned that persistence shit from Buddha (although he obviously didn't manage to pull off his personal "Mid Life Boot Camp").

All the best!

I'll admit, Dave. I kind of want to be like you, having pussy lined up for miles trying to get

through my revolving door. But, I throw a bit of cock and asshole into the mix too.

I mean, that's not my motivating factor...But hey, I'm a visionary.

The pussy you see in line are actually real cats. They just wanna play in my hair.

Oh BTW, I quite caffeine about 4 days ago, and have been sleeping 12-13 hours a day ever since.

Like I said, this is The Summer of Arms. Which means that I want big arms by the summer, so I'm blasting them now.

Today, I did the whole stack on the triceps pull-down machine. That's 200 pounds, baby! I got two perfect reps. I thought I could get four, but after two I wasn't sure I could maintain correct form and with that much weight, you don't want to get into bad form. That's just begging for an injury, especially when you're 53. Anyway, I want to be able to do 6 - 8 reps with the whole stack before summer gets here.

So my workouts now are lots of leg stuff first (it's also The Summer of Legs, but I'm not publicizing that), and then a couple sets of bench and shoulders, just to maintain.

Then it's all arms. The breakout is 66% bicep work and 34% tricep work. Of course I know that triceps make up most of the arm mass but I already have good triceps.

I try to get in at least 30 minutes of nothing but arm work every workout, and will work up to 45 minutes of arm work within a couple weeks. What I want are biceps that look like baseballs.

And I am going to get them!

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imago said:

Any of you getting into shape? Got tips?

No and no

imago said:

Oh BTW, I quite caffeine about 4 days ago, and have been sleeping 12-13 hours a day ever since.

I am weaning myself from caffeine. I am down to 1/3 caffeinated coffee.

I was hopelessly addicted, and full of rage

NDRU said:

imago said:

Oh BTW, I quite caffeine about 4 days ago, and have been sleeping 12-13 hours a day ever since.

I am weaning myself from caffeine. I am down to 1/3 caffeinated coffee.

I was hopelessly addicted, and full of rage

Kicking it is more difficult to me than when I gave up cigarettes.

imago said:

NDRU said:

I am weaning myself from caffeine. I am down to 1/3 caffeinated coffee.

I was hopelessly addicted, and full of rage

Kicking it is more difficult to me than when I gave up cigarettes.

I didn't want to just quit becuase I would get headaches, but gradually increasing the amount of decaf in my coffee is working pretty easily.

I went AWOL with my mid-life boot camp. I was making decent gains (I think) before I bailed.

Today I'm supposed to get back in the gym.

But it's 82 degrees and sunny outside...and I feel the need for a beer coming on.

imago said:

Oh BTW, I quite caffeine about 4 days ago, and have been sleeping 12-13 hours a day ever since.

I quit my antidepressants a week ago.

I've been alternating between exhausted and elated and now I'm getting bouts of dizziness and lightheadedness. BUT it should all be gone in a week or so and for as much as they helped, I'm happy to be done with them.

XxAxX said:

I'm not sure why I'm telling you fucks this, but I thought I'd post it somewhere.

ACCOUNTABILITY!!!

but then who gives a shit

talk about it after youve done it n dont forget to record it thru out so the ppl can see ..

NDRU said:

I always thought fasting was silly and weird until I saw this movie, and it has made me want to go on a juice fast

i can only see the red x up there. but your post reminded me that a while back i watched a movie called 'fat, sick and nearly dead' which changed my mind about juicing.