angel345 said:

KingBAD said:

the woman's knees look like water balloons

and it's plain to see she has a hitch in her

giddy-up...

BUT if that's yo thang

I was looking at a shot of her in the purple dress, and she appears almost voluptuous so as an heterosexual woman, I am saying she appears to have a nice figure. Women compliment each other, don't they

yep, that's the one.

if her knees swole up

anymore she couldn't

get her shoes on

KingBAD said:

angel345 said:

I was looking at a shot of her in the purple dress, and she appears almost voluptuous so as an heterosexual woman, I am saying she appears to have a nice figure. Women compliment each other, don't they

yep, that's the one.

if her knees swole up

anymore she couldn't

get her shoes on

Oh well , but her face is average looking.

she seems like the type of person who'd google herself. I hope she comes across this thread.

Rayan said:

she seems like the type of person who'd google herself. I hope she comes across this thread.

Rayan said:

she seems like the type of person who'd google herself. I hope she comes across this thread.

Yeah - I'm actually calling bullshit on this whole article. I think it is made up to stir the pot and get people talking. I think a bunch of magazine/newspaper editors were sitting in a room telling stories about generalizations of how pretty women are treated and this article is the result.

I very badly want her to shut the fuck up.

Hmm. She's about a mid-shelf white woman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeCMCJc5-jg

CarrieMpls said:

First let me say that yes, jealousy among women can be an issue. I don’t deny that it happens and I’m sure this woman has been on the receiving end of it a time or two.

And I have some downright gorgeous friends. Of course, petty jealousies can get the best of everyone now and again, but I’ve (mostly) grown out of that. I can’t imagine being jealous of a friend spending time with my bf, ‘cause I wouldn’t be friends with someone who I wouldn’t trust my bf around.

All that said, I think her problem is more about her attitude than her looks. Or something else about her. You tend to attract what you put out. I rarely see these problems in my life, but that’s because I wouldn’t put up with it. I’ve never seen office dynamics such as she’s described and I’ve moved around the same company with various teams and bosses and so on for 15 years.

Jealously can definitely be an issue! In high school my "friends" were really mean to me - partially because of my looks (I was very thin) and partially because I got better grades than them. The funny thing was that guys usually liked them over me - I never had a boyfriend in high school. Same with my post-college friends: as the only brunette in my group, I was ignored by tons of guys who were more interested in my blond-haired friends.

At my previous job, I also feel that jealousy was a factor. Aside from being conniving, spiteful, manipulative women, my two former managers were both insecure (for different reasons). I definitely think it played a part in how I was treated by them. I didn't get it because I really don't think of myself as "beautiful"; I'd say I was average looking.

Her view of herself seems pretty self-important. She's like a guy who you think is super hot (except I wouldn't describe her as hot) until he opens his mouth and then you realize he's a dumbass.

paintedlady said:

noimageatall said:

Geez...maybe when society doesn't place the end-all and be-all on how a woman 'looks' instead of what she 'thinks' we can all get past this bullshit.

Amen! But we do this shit to ourselves when we as women focus too much on how other women look.

Agree. Do you see men running around nit-picking at each other over their shoes or their hairstyle or saying, "Who does that bitch bastard think he is?" Is there a thread here from a guy talking about how some other man's knees are knobby or his hair is stringy?

Why DO we do this to each other??? Why?

noimageatall said:

paintedlady said:

Amen! But we do this shit to ourselves when we as women focus too much on how other women look.

Agree. Do you see men running around nit-picking at each other over their shoes or their hairstyle or saying, "Who does that bitch bastard think he is?" Is there a thread here from a guy talking about how some other man's knees are knobby or his hair is stringy?

Why DO we do this to each other??? Why?

Agree. I remember when Hillary was running for president and I asked a female friend of mine she was voting for her she said" NO!! I'm not voting for that BITCH"!! When I asked her why she said "I don't trust her" I"ve just come to the conclusion that women just don't like each other.

noimageatall said:

paintedlady said:

Amen! But we do this shit to ourselves when we as women focus too much on how other women look.

Agree. Do you see men running around nit-picking at each other over their shoes or their hairstyle or saying, "Who does that bitch bastard think he is?" Is there a thread here from a guy talking about how some other man's knees are knobby or his hair is stringy?

Why DO we do this to each other??? Why?

I guess it often is because we are much more judged by how we look by both men and women than men are and because we have much less self confidence than men have. That's why we tend to focus on other women's weak points so that we feel better about ourselves.

magnificentSynthesizer said:

Hmm. She's about a mid-shelf white woman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeCMCJc5-jg

Where is this dog faced woman pretty? Her skin is slack, already cracking, and she has a kangaroo pouch to go with it. It's always these types who have to announce that they are "pretty" when they aren't. Drop dead beautiful women don't have to do this.

MadamGoodnight said:

Where is this dog faced woman pretty? Her skin is slack, already cracking, and she has a kangaroo pouch to go with it. It's always these types who have to announce that they are "pretty" when they aren't. Drop dead beautiful women don't have to do this.

MadamGoodnight said:

Where is this dog faced woman pretty? Her skin is slack, already cracking, and she has a kangaroo pouch to go with it. It's always these types who have to announce that they are "pretty" when they aren't. Drop dead beautiful women don't have to do this.

Serious said:

noimageatall said:

Agree. Do you see men running around nit-picking at each other over their shoes or their hairstyle or saying, "Who does that bitch bastard think he is?" Is there a thread here from a guy talking about how some other man's knees are knobby or his hair is stringy?

Why DO we do this to each other??? Why?

I guess it often is because we are much more judged by how we look by both men and women than men are and because we have much less self confidence than men have. That's why we tend to focus on other women's weak points so that we feel better about ourselves.

That's interesting...do you think women are more insecure about their looks than men? I'm not sure. It could be that women are more vocal and demonstrative than men about those things.

I agree that women spend too much time being bitchy toward each other but I also think we are a lot more emotionally supportive of each other than men are... generally speaking, of course. Women's relationships with each other seem a lot more intimate than the way most men relate to their buddies. Would you say that's true?

babynoz said:

Serious said:

I guess it often is because we are much more judged by how we look by both men and women than men are and because we have much less self confidence than men have. That's why we tend to focus on other women's weak points so that we feel better about ourselves.

That's interesting...do you think women are more insecure about their looks than men? I'm not sure. It could be that women are more vocal and demonstrative than men about those things.

I agree that women spend too much time being bitchy toward each other but I also think we are a lot more emotionally supportive of each other than men are... generally speaking, of course. Women's relationships with each other seem a lot more intimate than the way most men relate to their buddies. Would you say that's true?

Yes I think in general women are more insecure about looks . Men still don't worry nearly as much as women do if they are good-looking, if they are getting fat, what their hair looks like or if they get wrinkles. But I agree that we are also more vocal about it.

I also agree (generally speaking, of course) about friendships between women being way more intimate than between men. But friendships between a man and a woman can be intimate too and I don't mean sex . But I guess in these cases it is also the woman who turns the friendship into that more intimate direction and the man just is willing to go far that kind of talk and opens up. And usually even then these talks are not such a main part of the friendship as with 2 women being friends.

I don't see why she thinks she's beautiful. Rather plain, if you ask me. I've seen cuter dogs.

XxAxX said:

women of the ORG, what do you think of this lady's theory? i find her confidence a bit over the top, but think she has a point.

do you agree that women in general sabotage their better looking sisters out of sheer spite and/or insecurity???

discuss. men, you too please. do you see women acting this way?

well, everytime i hear the song 'pretty woman' by roy orbison, i stand in front of a mirror and vainly imagine the song was written about me.

hey, if you/i don't feel pretty/beautiful about myself then i cannot see real beauty in others.

oft times when i've studied the pix of mona lisa, i felt her subtle smile expression was one of her secretly whispering to herself, "i am the most beautiful women in my town."

my fav self-confidence song: 'i am beautiful' by christina aguilara.

http://nymag.com/daily/fa...ished.html

Shyra said:

I don't see why she thinks she's beautiful. Rather plain, if you ask me. I've seen cuter dogs.

!!!!

damn, coldblooded

noimageatall said:

What Ashley Judd’s Week-Long ‘Puffy Face’ Media Blitz Has Accomplished

It's been five days since Ashley Judd published her Daily Beast essay about the offensive, sexist nature of the media's speculation about her face looking "puffy," and to her credit, the conversation she started is still going strong. In her essay, which appeared on Monday, she explained that her appearance had changed a bit because she'd gained some weight (GOD FORBID) and had been taking medication for her sinuses. But far more important, she confronted the much bigger, uglier problem of today's media being hyper-judgmental of women's appearances in general. She writes:

I choose to address it because the conversation was pointedly nasty, gendered, and misogynistic and embodies what all girls and women in our culture, to a greater or lesser degree, endure every day, in ways both outrageous and subtle. The assault on our body image, the hypersexualization of girls and women and subsequent degradation of our sexuality as we walk through the decades, and the general incessant objectification is what this conversation allegedly about my face is really about.

Indeed, the strongest part about Judd's argument — which has gathered steam through multiple TV appearances throughout the week — is that she's refused to make it about herself. She was similarly focused in all of her TV interviews: Although she gave honest, articulate answers when asked about her personal appearance (particularly while on NBC'sNightly News), she consistently brought the conversation back to the larger picture. Here's how that went on Access Hollywood yesterday:

She's right, of course, and that's what makes her different from all the other women who have fought back against the media calling them fat/plastic/Botoxed in the past. Remember when the media called Tyra fat and she booked herself a swimsuit photo shoot with People? Or when [insert one of many actresses] gained some weight and then made a big deal about losing it? When most female celebrities get criticized for their looks, they find a way to parlay it into their own brand. But Judd has used this opportunity to point out that how she looks has nothing to do with the larger problem. And her point — that so many women, whether they're in the public eye or not, are constantly subjected to damning and contradictory opinions about their appearances — has obviously hit a nerve.

But placing a premium on women's looks has been a problem for ages; why are we talking about this now? It probably has to do with our society's increasingly awkward relationship with body image and plastic surgery. There's no "right" choice when it comes to changing one's appearance: Women are criticized for looking fat or saggy or wrinkly but then torn down for using "unnatural" means to change their looks. Meanwhile, we live in a world of increasing options when it comes to "self-improvement" through special diets, workouts, pills, surgeries, injections, and goodness-knows-what-else. With all those new choices comes foreign moral ground, and new ways in which women are judged.

Further proving Judd's point about how women are incessantly objectified by the media, Bush expressed confusion about whether it's right to compliment a lady when she's lost weight:

Bush: Oftentimes, if a woman comes in — Kathy Najimy was here the other day, I'll use her as an example, she lost 50 pounds — I said to her, "Wow, you lost 50 pounds!" — she's been open about it — "You look fantastic! God, you look great!" That's an objectification right there, to some degree. Is that okay? Because I think most women, when you tell them, "You've lost weight, boy you look wonderful," then they like that, and they feel good about it.

Judd: And I believe that that is one of the ways that it's very cunning and very insidious. It is a compliment, but yet it's a backhanded compliment. When I see someone who's carrying that kind of weight, what I think is that there's probably some disordered eating, that there are health problems, that there are self-esteem issues — it's a lot more than the number on the scale.

Judd is tapping into the troubling fact that a woman's appearance (or "puffiness") is valued much more highly than whether she's mentally and physically healthy. This problem won't going away soon, but Judd has done an excellent job of starting an intelligent conversation about it.

http://nymag.com/daily/fa...ished.html

great article. thanks for posting.

free2bfreeda said:

XxAxX said:

women of the ORG, what do you think of this lady's theory? i find her confidence a bit over the top, but think she has a point.

do you agree that women in general sabotage their better looking sisters out of sheer spite and/or insecurity???

discuss. men, you too please. do you see women acting this way?

well, everytime i hear the song 'pretty woman' by roy orbison, i stand in front of a mirror and vainly imagine the song was written about me.

hey, if you/i don't feel pretty/beautiful about myself then i cannot see real beauty in others.

oft times when i've studied the pix of mona lisa, i felt her subtle smile expression was one of her secretly whispering to herself, "i am the most beautiful women in my town."

my fav self-confidence song: 'i am beautiful' by christina aguilara.

good for you you keep on keeping on

I could see where maybe she's the "hot" one at her workplace.

But I really doubt it bothers her.

Yes, women are cstty & hard on each other. She alright, but not as beatiful as she thinks, but then again, she might be looking in a different mirror. She needs an attitude adjustment.

Looks 5/10

Personality 0/10

Total = Ugly

She must smell really good.