unique said:

imago said:

And another thing.

One of my English friends hates being called a European. Why is that?

britiain isn't part of europe that's why. we aren't fucking foreign. we speak da motherfucking english. only foreigners are european

I was confused until I read this post. Thanks.

Why you lot agreed to join the EU, I have no idea.

sextonseven said:

unique said:

britiain isn't part of europe that's why. we aren't fucking foreign. we speak da motherfucking english. only foreigners are european

I was confused until I read this post. Thanks.

Why you lot agreed to join the EU, I have no idea.

we agreed to jack shit

you can stick your weird fucking food and tv shows that make no fucking sense up your arse where they belong. i'll keep my pizza and burgers any day over that foreign muck

unique said:

sextonseven said:

I was confused until I read this post. Thanks.

Why you lot agreed to join the EU, I have no idea.

we agreed to jack shit

you can stick your weird fucking food and tv shows that make no fucking sense up your arse where they belong. i'll keep my pizza and burgers any day over that foreign muck

I nominate this for Post of the Year.

what a mess! i'm lost here...

so, so far we have these concepts:

-Great Britain aka United Kingdom (Union Jack) which includes:

a)-England "British Accent" (oxford?)

b)-Scotland "Scottish Accent"

c)-Wales "Welsh Accent"

d)-Northern England (part of the UK, not England)

e) other territories around the world...

-and then there's Ireland, an independent country which speaks english (due to wars and old conquests, lol) but with the thick irish accent, and also has its own idiom (gaelic??) (and yes, the analogy "Canadians & US citizens" is valid here...)

am I right??

btw, what is the exact relationship between Canada/Australia and the UK?

I heard somewhere that the UK has something like 50 different types of accents!

unique said:

sextonseven said:

I was confused until I read this post. Thanks.

Why you lot agreed to join the EU, I have no idea.

we agreed to jack shit

you can stick your weird fucking food and tv shows that make no fucking sense up your arse where they belong. i'll keep my pizza and burgers any day over that foreign muck

So you're American at heart then???

CallMeCarrie said:

I heard somewhere that the UK has something like 50 different types of accents!

But your favorite is the New York english accent, right? Specifically the Long Island one?

JoeTyler said:

what a mess! i'm lost here...

so, so far we have these concepts:

-Great Britain aka United Kingdom (Union Jack) which includes:

a)-England "British Accent" (oxford?)

b)-Scotland "Scottish Accent"

c)-Wales "Welsh Accent"

d)-Northern England (part of the UK, not England)

e) other territories around the world...

-and then there's Ireland, an independent country which speaks english (due to wars and old conquests, lol) but with the thick irish accent, and also has its own idiom (gaelic??) (and yes, the analogy "Canadians & US citizens" is valid here...)

am I right??

btw, what is the exact relationship between Canada/Australia and the UK?

...and what about Jamaica and the Bahamas...?

I can't help you with your question, but it reminded me of when there was an exhibition at the museum where I worked that was all art from different countries in Africa. Whenever I was in a cab, I would strike up a convo with the driver and then tell them to come to the museum to see the show, especially if they were from one of the countries whose art was included in the show. One of the cab drivers was from Egypt and when I told him about the exhibition of art from African he insisted that Egypt was not part of Africa. I realize there are huge religious and cultural differences - not just from country to country, but from northern Africa and sub-Saharan - but Egypt is on the continent of Africa. He wasn't buying it.

jone70 said:

I can't help you with your question, but it reminded me of when there was an exhibition at the museum where I worked that was all art from different countries in Africa. Whenever I was in a cab, I would strike up a convo with the driver and then tell them to come to the museum to see the show, especially if they were from one of the countries whose art was included in the show. One of the cab drivers was from Egypt and when I told him about the exhibition of art from African he insisted that Egypt was not part of Africa. I realize there are huge religious and cultural differences - not just from country to country, but from northern Africa and sub-Saharan - but Egypt is on the continent of Africa. He wasn't buying it.

Just like you can't convince many people north of the Rio Grande that Mexico is part of "North America".

imago said:

I haven't participated in a thread this bad in a long time.

This is turning into one of the most interesting threads I have read in a long time!!!!

PurpleJedi said:

CallMeCarrie said:

I heard somewhere that the UK has something like 50 different types of accents!

But your favorite is the New York english accent, right? Specifically the Long Island one?

Long Island is my favorite!!!

unique said:

sextonseven said:

I was confused until I read this post. Thanks.

Why you lot agreed to join the EU, I have no idea.

we agreed to jack shit

you can stick your weird fucking food and tv shows that make no fucking sense up your arse where they belong. i'll keep my pizza and burgers any day over that foreign muck

Awesome.

JoeTyler said:

what a mess! i'm lost here...

so, so far we have these concepts:

-Great Britain aka United Kingdom

No wonder you are lost. Right off the bat there you are wrong. Great Britain is an island in the U.K., not "aka United Kingdom".

I'm Scottish, born and bred. On forms etc I put my nationality as Scottish not British. It's not because I don't want to be considered British. It's just the way I was brought up. My parents were hardened highlanders who would have branded the word "Scotland" on my forehead if they could have gotten away with it.

Thankfully I live in the 21st century. Scottish/English/British, who fucking cares? We all live on the same crappy island. We all pay for the Queens knickers and get shagged up the arse for the same things.

CarrieMpls said:

PurpleJedi said:

Yeah...I think that the term "British accent" (which I've heard before) is incorrect.

But then, since in America we speak "english" I guess it's easier to say (of an Englishman) that he has a "British" accent (as in "British english" compared to "American english").

No?

And even within England, you can get very different sounding accents depending on region.

It's the exact same with Scotland.

sextonseven said:

unique said:

britiain isn't part of europe that's why. we aren't fucking foreign. we speak da motherfucking english. only foreigners are european

Why you lot agreed to join the EU, I have no idea.

It's been a bitch. There are so many eastern europeans here I sometimes forget where the fuck I am. They don't call a certain part of the city where I live "Little Warsaw" for nothing you know.

sextonseven said:

JoeTyler said:

what a mess! i'm lost here...

so, so far we have these concepts:

-Great Britain aka United Kingdom

No wonder you are lost. Right off the bat there you are wrong. Great Britain is an island in the U.K., not "aka United Kingdom".

so, Great Britain is basically Scotland, Wales and England? ok

UK is Great Britain and North Ireland, then?

^It's not that great. They should rename it Good Britain.

JoeTyler said:

sextonseven said:

No wonder you are lost. Right off the bat there you are wrong. Great Britain is an island in the U.K., not "aka United Kingdom".

so, Great Britain is basically Scotland, Wales and England? ok

UK is Great Britain and North Ireland, then?

Yes. Imagine if the continental United States (contiguous U.S. if you really want to get technical) had its own name that excluded Alaska and Hawaii--something more confusing than "continental United States" haha--then you'll see why many people get it mixed up.

PJ I bet you didn't think is was quite that complicated when you started this.

i'm still working on this

I'm thoroughly confused now about who is British and who is English...

I like trying to disguish the different accents though. I can tell the English accent from Scottish pretty easily but it's a little harder for me to tell Scottish from Irish. The Scottish sounds the prettiest to me because it sounds more sing-songy.

sextonseven said:

JoeTyler said:

so, Great Britain is basically Scotland, Wales and England? ok

UK is Great Britain and North Ireland, then?

Yes. Imagine if the continental United States (contiguous U.S. if you really want to get technical) had its own name that excluded Alaska and Hawaii--something more confusing than "continental United States" haha--then you'll see why many people get it mixed up.

oh, ok then

and by that logic, a British person is someone who was born in England, Scotland or Wales, whether he/she likes it or not, lol

sextonseven said:

JoeTyler said:

so, Great Britain is basically Scotland, Wales and England? ok

UK is Great Britain and North Ireland, then?

Yes. Imagine if the continental United States (contiguous U.S. if you really want to get technical) had its own name that excluded Alaska and Hawaii--something more confusing than "continental United States" haha--then you'll see why many people get it mixed up.

OK, this is what I've been told.

It's starting to make my head hurt, really. I'll need to take a break and watch my copy of Let Me In

JoeTyler said:

what a mess! i'm lost here...

so, so far we have these concepts:

-Great Britain aka United Kingdom (Union Jack) which includes:

a)-England "British Accent" (oxford?)

b)-Scotland "Scottish Accent"

c)-Wales "Welsh Accent"

d)-Northern England (part of the UK, not England)

e) other territories around the world...

-and then there's Ireland, an independent country which speaks english (due to wars and old conquests, lol) but with the thick irish accent, and also has its own idiom (gaelic??) (and yes, the analogy "Canadians & US citizens" is valid here...)

am I right??

btw, what is the exact relationship between Canada/Australia and the UK?

Yeesh thanks for the notes, I was a bit lost myself.

Cant we just love each other..

Deadflow3r said:

imago said:

I haven't participated in a thread this bad in a long time.

This is turning into one of the most interesting threads I have read in a long time!!!!

CallMeCarrie said:

PurpleJedi said:

But your favorite is the New York english accent, right? Specifically the Long Island one?

Long Island is my favorite!!!

morningsong said:

PJ I bet you didn't think is was quite that complicated when you started this.

No, actually I feared that my question may've been considered inane...but apparently this is the greatest thread since the White Castle Fried Clams thread of '08.