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BILLIONS of Super-Earths in HABITABLE ZONES!
Scientist have just concluded that 40% of Red Dwarf stars, by far the most common star in the Galaxy, or at least the portion of the galaxy closest to our sun, have at least one Super Earth orbiting them. This is indeed big news. In order to understand the significance of this announcement, one must understand the exact nature of Red dwarfs compared to our sun, and why these Super Earths are so enticing.
Red Dwarfs are in many ways more desirable than the Sun, though in some ways less. First, there are no red dwarfs that have even remotely neared the end of their infancy. That’s not to say that all red dwarfs are recent additions to our universe. Indeed, some of them have been around for billions of years longer than the Sun itself. However, because red dwarfs are low mass stars ( ½ the mass of the sun or smaller), they burn through their fuel at a much slower rate…a much, much, much slower rate. Indeed, the Sun, a large specimen of yellow dwarf star, has a lifespan that will last 10 billions years, where a red dwarf’s lifespan is measured in hundreds of billions of years (or more depending on size). They provide a stable main sequence environment for planets for a comparative infinity compared to stars like the sun (that’s not to say the 2 ½ billion years life have existed on Earth are exactly short by our standards).
Also, it’s been shown that red dwarfs have high likelihood of containing Super Earths in their goldilocks zone--the zone around a star that will support the formation of liquid water (Venus, Earth, and Mars are all in the Goldilocks zone). A Super Earth is a planet whose mass is 1.5 times larger to 10 times larger than the earth on average. The planets on the lower end of that spectrum are definitely believed to be rocky, while planets with 5 to 10 earth masses are sometimes referred to as Small Neptunes—no one knows for sure.
The main reason is that the more massive a planet, the more likely it will attract more gases to form a dense atmosphere—often too dense to support life as we would know it, or sometimes, so dense, that the rocky planet ends up being a rocky core to a gas giant. Neptune itself is a little over 4 earths in diameter, so although nowhere near the size of Jupter, it’s no small globe in the sky. Also, being in the Goldilocks zone with such dense atmospheres means the likelihood of a runaway greenhouse effect, much like what we see on Venus, which although just a smidgeon smaller than earth, has a crushingly dense atmosphere and temperatures in excess of 700 degrees Fahrenheit.
However, Super Earths have one distinct advantage to smaller planets---they will most certainly, if rocky, poses plate technonics (Earth is lucky to have plate techtonics given it's small size and mass. Mars and Venus don't). This means their atmospheres and ocean salinity will remain relatively stable, and planet’s minerals will be recycled. Plate techtonics is now viewed as more than an oddity or a pestilence (thanks to the volcanic and seismic activity they spawn), but as a necessary element for life as we know it.
So, we now know that 40% of red dwarfs definitely have at least one Super Earth in their Goldilocks zone, that these planets will likely have plate tectonics and be potentially the right temperature to support liquid water, and thus life. Moreover, we know that there are at least 150 such known red dwarfs within our neck of the woods---30 light-years of the Sun. If one does the math, and the European Space Agency has done the math, this adds up to tens of billions of Super Earths surrounding the most common type of star in our galaxy in the prime piece of real estate within the stars range of orbit.
The next few years are going to be amazing.
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I want to go there as soon as possible. | |
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Dave1992 said: I want to go there as soon as possible. U better pull a Ted Williams! :D I'd loooove to see this kinda thing too. Every night, I see mars and Venus and Jupiter up there...with my naked eye...and just marvel that there's whole worlds sitting up there like a speck in the sky, with lord knows what goin on on them.....and that's just our little glorious system....who knows what kinda crazy ass shit is out there to discover. | |
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Yep, I always found that very fascinating indeed. | |
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NDRU said: ? | |
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There is nothing on the horizon that gives us a shot at reaching any of them in our lifetime. 30 lightyears is 30 years traveling at the speed of light. We can't come within 1% of the speed of light. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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For some reason I thought this was going to be about Imago's anus "Aren't you even curious? Don't you want to see the dragon behind the door?" | |
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Yes, exactly.
I hope nobody got this from my post.
Folks who think intersteller travel, or indeed travel to our own solar system's edge is possible should read Bill Bryson's Short History of Nearly Everything. It so clearly explains the enormity of space that he all but makes it depressing to think about.
According to Bryson, given what we know about technology, there is no hope for any human being in one lifetime of ever reaching the edge of our own solar system....ever.
Now, this is barring any miricales in technology in the future, but I'm not holding my breath. | |
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I've just added you to my poo list!!! | |
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i think all topics are. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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I never thought id get that close to your ass, should I bring a gift? With all those names it must be pretty spacious "Aren't you even curious? Don't you want to see the dragon behind the door?" | |
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this is why the HAVES don't give a shit about the earth and how much damage they put on it. they think they will make it to one of those places and continue their (family) line as some kind of ruler of domains when theyget there. the truth is I THINK the disaster will come to those who would do such a thing, the earth will heal without them. but in the future people will seek retrobution and man will take war to other places because that's whut they do.
is it just me that thinks this??? i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT... STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE... | |
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It is depressing. Unless we develop a means to travel faster than light safely it's never gonna happen. When I say safely, how do you dodge objects in uncharted space travelling faster than the speed of light? We have no maps of places to avoid. How do we know our route won't cross paths with a planet, comet or asteroid? I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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Dune, Star Trek, Stargate, all think along similar lines. Far from being alone. Human nature always lags human technology. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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It's as small, perky, and tight as a singularity. | |
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I'm from the school of thought that believes we can't break the light barrior nor hope to achieve speeds near the speed of light.
There's a really amazing video on youtube about the false science behind James Cameron's Avatar and intersteller space travel.
Now, some genius may come by one day who manages to show that Einstein is correct at a macro level, but not on a cosmic level, etc.... or perhaps show that his theory of general relativity is part of a larger theory, etc. But, so far scientist have done nothing but prove Einstein correct. Hell, our GPS systems have to account for space-time lags.
I hope that Einstein is proven at least partly wrong. However, I just don't see it...But then again, I could never have picture an iPhone when I was 12 years old either. | |
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You gotta "split" matter and travel through it by being faster than any possible movement if it's molecules' electrons at any given time! | |
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I read about the "super-earth" a couple of months ago already! | |
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OK I am just on guard for anything anyone says today! My Legacy
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Einstein right on a macro level would be the same as cosmic, no? As for 'Avatar' the same could be said of Star Trek. If light is a constant, that doesn't mean we can't shortcut the distances to be travelled. wormholes, travelling through dimensions, I believe if we survive we'll find a way. Personally, I'm putting my faith in God and heaven, that from there, I can explore the metaverses (I believe there are multiple universes). I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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oh it's April 1!!!
It's April 2 here
I'm not kidding. The Earth really is round. | |
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It got my terms wrong.
I'm lucky I didn't say Machavelian level. | |
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they've been workin this for decades already. SAFELY may be their only issue to date. when i see the release of scientific research that is supose to be new (laser beams, microwaves, whutever) i know that that's the part that govmt. don't care about lettin it out. a few months back when they were talkin about bein able to fold space (as a concept) my first thought is i'm willin to bet they already folded it, they're prolly workin on military practicality about now... i am KING BAD!!!
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In what alternative universe? 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment | |
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my poo list grows!!!! | |
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As long as nobody disproves my mood ring's powers I'm cool My Legacy
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your poo list is lost in space mailto:www.iDon'tThinkSo.com.Uranus | |
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I'm struggling to see how though. Because the e=mc^2 equation shows (and it's been proven) that the faster an object accelerates towards the speed of light, the more mass it obtains, and therefore the more energy you need to push it along. Eventually, you need an infinite amount of energy to reach light speed, and this isn't possible.
I mean, I wish...I hope that it's possible. But given Einsteins theory combined with the Fermi Paradox, I'm sort of not too hopeful on this.
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