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Thread started 03/12/12 6:55pm

PurpleJedi

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Is DISNEY destined to fail in Sci-Fi flicks?

So apparently "John Carter" is a miss.

'John Carter' Pulls Only ...Box Office

For any other film, an opening weekend of over $30 would be "good"...but for the self-professed "blockbuster of the year" with a $250million budget it's not-so-good.

Maybe they should've kept the "...Of Mars" in the title???

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So let's run the list of famous sci-fi flicks from Disney;

Were ANY of these bonafide "hits" at the box office?

I seem to recall each one being a dissapointment.

I think that they were REALLY trying to put out the "next Avatar" with 'John Carter'.

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Does the House of the Mouse have what it takes to deliver some seriously good Science Fiction???

Discuss.

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Reply #1 posted 03/12/12 7:21pm

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Is Tron: Legacy considered a disappointment? The box office numbers I found are $170 million in North America and $400 million worldwide with a $170 million budget.

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Reply #2 posted 03/12/12 7:43pm

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sextonseven said:

Is Tron: Legacy considered a disappointment? The box office numbers I found are $170 million in North America and $400 million worldwide with a $170 million budget.

Indeed. John Carter made 100 million around the world in 3 days. They will break even on the release (which cost about $250M total per some estimates), and DVD rentals could result in a marginal profit.

I understand how movies are considered blockbusters, hits or flops when one only looks at US box office, but a lot of US "flops" still turn a profit because they play as well or better everywhere else.

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Reply #3 posted 03/12/12 8:50pm

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I saw the movie and thought it was pretty good a lil heavy to understand all the history and story, but an enjoyable movie.

Disney though didn't market this well. I heard more bout how much of a bomb it was going to be than anything else.

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Reply #4 posted 03/12/12 9:07pm

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Does talking about aliens on Mars work nowadays? I can see talking about beings in a far off galaxy but Mars doesn't leave much for imagination to run wild.

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Reply #5 posted 03/12/12 9:17pm

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WALL-E did pretty good.. $521,311,860 worldwide.

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Reply #6 posted 03/12/12 9:25pm

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Tron Legacy was good.

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Reply #7 posted 03/12/12 9:58pm

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Tron and Tron: Legacy were considered to be more cult hits than box office blockbusters. But Disney is much better doing fantasy movies than pure sci-fi.

Yet they did an absolutely horrible job marketing this movie. They did not take advantage of the movie being based on original literary source material from Edgar Rice Burroughs, and they tried to pass off the lead character as being well known to the general public when he wasn't. They also tried to pass this off as a kids movie when it clearly was not.

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Reply #8 posted 03/13/12 3:30am

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runphilrun said:

WALL-E did pretty good.. $521,311,860 worldwide.

Wall-E was technically "Pixar".

razz

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Reply #9 posted 03/13/12 3:36am

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namepeace said:

sextonseven said:

Is Tron: Legacy considered a disappointment? The box office numbers I found are $170 million in North America and $400 million worldwide with a $170 million budget.

Indeed. John Carter made 100 million around the world in 3 days. They will break even on the release (which cost about $250M total per some estimates), and DVD rentals could result in a marginal profit.

I understand how movies are considered blockbusters, hits or flops when one only looks at US box office, but a lot of US "flops" still turn a profit because they play as well or better everywhere else.

yeahthat

Seems like if a movie doesn't gross a gazillion dollars in the USA on opening weekend, it's dubbed a 'flop' regardless of how well it may do abroad.

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Reply #10 posted 03/13/12 3:49am

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Fail?!?!?! Think again, bro

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Reply #11 posted 03/13/12 4:10am

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NDRU said:

Fail?!?!?! Think again, bro

lol

So then "Escape From Witch Mountain" was phenomenal???

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Reply #12 posted 03/13/12 4:11am

Pomade

I know, I know. It's hard to believe this mute villain wasn't quite as interesting

as ol' Darth Whatshisname in the late 1970s. rolleyes Critics.

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Reply #13 posted 03/13/12 6:00pm

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Pomade said:

I know, I know. It's hard to believe this mute villain wasn't quite as interesting

as ol' Darth Whatshisname in the late 1970s. rolleyes Critics.

lol

...maybe if he was painted BLACK and could crush a windpipe by thought alone...

mr.green

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Reply #14 posted 03/13/12 8:18pm

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I was pleasantly surprised By John Carter. I went in with extremely low expectations because of the god awful trailers, but it was good. It is a very well made film, and for a first time live action director I think Stanton is by far, better than 99% of directors working today. It is just an incredibly well crafted film. I hope Stanton isn't black listed in Hollywood after this film becasue I look forward to more films as well made as this. They are extremely rare.

Foe me, the problem was just bad marketing. I didn't even want to go.

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Reply #15 posted 03/14/12 3:54am

Pomade

PurpleJedi said:

Pomade said:

I know, I know. It's hard to believe this mute villain wasn't quite as interesting

as ol' Darth Whatshisname in the late 1970s. rolleyes Critics.

lol

...maybe if he was painted BLACK and could crush a windpipe by thought alone...

mr.green

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For mocking Vader. hmph!

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Reply #16 posted 03/14/12 3:55am

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Pomade said:

PurpleJedi said:

lol

...maybe if he was painted BLACK and could crush a windpipe by thought alone...

mr.green

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For mocking Vader. hmph!

lol

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Reply #17 posted 03/14/12 4:05pm

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PurpleJedi said:

runphilrun said:

WALL-E did pretty good.. $521,311,860 worldwide.

Wall-E was technically "Pixar".

razz

In my opinion, if the Disney logo is on the poster then it's Disney.

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