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Reply #30 posted 03/09/12 4:47pm

Genesia

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Serious said:

Deadcake said:

I saw on that said give it to your mom

nod I posted that one on facebook recently

Apart from the fact that it's a joke IMO it's more making fun of men who are too stupid to take care of their own laundry and not offensive against women at all shrug

That's exactly how I took it, too.

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Reply #31 posted 03/09/12 10:35pm

KingBAD

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it ain't like it says "let your bitch do it" lol

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Reply #32 posted 03/11/12 3:06am

ThisOne

my g string has a choking hazard warning on it giggle

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Reply #33 posted 03/11/12 3:28am

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ThisOne said:

my g string has a choking hazard warning on it giggle

falloff

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Reply #34 posted 03/11/12 6:43am

Deadcake

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ThisOne said:

my g string has a choking hazard warning on it giggle

Now you tell me!

(see, I wear a green thong because it complements my fire crotch mushy )

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Reply #35 posted 03/12/12 8:42am

ThisOne

Deadcake said:

ThisOne said:

my g string has a choking hazard warning on it giggle

Now you tell me!

(see, I wear a green thong because it complements my fire crotch mushy )

eating your greens is healthy isnt it nod

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Reply #36 posted 03/13/12 1:44am

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PurpleJedi said:

XxAxX said:

http://news.blogs.cnn.com...hpt=hp_bn1

"There was no attempt at wit, and unlike the Topman t-shirts, which offended so many with their brazen slogans to be worn across young men’s chests – this was a hidden message – or rather an order, intended to encourage women to reassume their once their ‘proper place’ (in the home) and young men to maintain the expectations of their grandfathers."

falloff

That's PRICELESS!!!!

...oooh...a subtle call for the subjugation of women via hidden messages inside pant labels...

disbelief

the last thing that women today need (you know, the ones who work full time for 80 cents on the dollar that men make and then get to do all of the housework at home alone) is to have a next generation of little boys thinking this shit's okay. really not cool.

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Reply #37 posted 03/13/12 2:57am

kimrachell

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my g string has a choking hazard warning on it giggle

faint

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Reply #38 posted 03/13/12 5:01pm

XxAxX

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SUCH an outcry. why don't they all just suck it up? smile

http://www.huffingtonpost...39074.html

Huggies is sorry. Very very very sorry.

So sorry, that it rushed representatives down to Austin this weekend to apologize, repeatedly, to 200-plus Dad bloggers gathered at their first ever convention, called Dad 2.0.

The company thought it had a winner of an ad campaign -- a series of spots all filmed during five days spent in a house with real dads and their babies. "To prove that Huggies diapers and wipes can handle anything," the female voice-over explains, "we put them to the toughest test imaginable -- Dads."

The marketers at Kimberly-Clark, which owns Huggies, figured it was a combination that couldn't miss. It showed fathers parenting! It included adorable babies! It was light-hearted and fun, what with those poor hapless dads responsible for their own children for five whole days!

After all, marketers knew, men behaving like actual parents is the "new" thing in advertising (I use the quotation marks because we have seen waves of this before, so perhaps we should say it's the latest rediscovery of a new thing.) Clorox shows cool Dads making a wildly fun mess with the kids and then, quite matter of factly, doing the laundry. Apple shows a brand new Dad shattered that the hundreds of photos of his baby's life are lost when he loses his iPhone, only to remember that they are in the cloud. Jetta chronicles a boy growing into a man, replacing backpack with baby carrier, and evolving from asking "Is it fast?" to "Is it safe?" Microsoft's ad has Dad grocery shopping while his giggling kids are back home remotely adding items like candy and chocolate cake to his list.

Embracing this trend -- Dads doing Mom stuff! -- Huggies figured they would charm women (who purchase 75 percent of all diapers) and possibly convert a few men (who buy five percent; the other 20 percent are joint purchases.) What they didn't take into account, however, was another trend -- the one where the growing number of men who consider themselves involved, equal parents (according to the US Census, one in three are their child's primary caregiver) are more than a little sensitive about being portrayed a the butt of an advertiser's joke.

Which is how more than a few men interpreted the Huggies series of ads, particularly the one in which the fathers are so involved watching TV sports that they appear to ignore their babies' overflowing diapers. The addition of an invitation to Moms on the brand's Facebook page, suggesting that they "Nominate a Dad ... Hand him some diapers & wipes and watch the fun ... Tell us how it went on Facebook!" certainly amplified the impression that Dads were being mocked.

The reaction was swift. Taking a page from the mothers who rose up against a Motrin ad a few years ago that some saw as insulting to "baby-wearing parents", fathers (and a few mothers) filled the Huggies Facebook Wall with complaints. "Thanks for contributing to the perception that fathers are incompetent parents who let babies lay around in their own waste until they can be rescued, was one typical comment. Another: "The narrow view of gender roles...hurts dads AND moms. We should all be free to fill our family roles in the way that makes sense based on our skills and interests, not on some antiquated, stereotypical gender binary."

Soon, there was a petition. Created by Chris Routly, a father from Breiningsville, PA, it was titled "We're Dads, Huggies. Not Dummies." And it said:

Why is a dad on diaper duty an appropriate or meaningful test of the product in any way a mom using them is not? Why reduce dads to being little more than test dummy parents, putting diapers and wipes through a "worst-case scenario" crash course of misuse and abuse? Is that what HUGGIES thinks dads do? We leave our children in overflowing diapers because sports is more important to us? Really?

These HUGGIES ads literally use the line "Dads push diapers and wipes to the limit." No, HUGGIES, dads don't do that. Poor manufacturing does that. A large bottle before naptime does that. Feeding your kid too much fiber does that. Babies do that. But dads don't use diapers and wipes any differently than moms.

And there were more than a few suggestions of what Huggies could do with their series of ads. Jim HIgley wrote on the blog of The Good Men Project:

Swap out a couple of those chairs with moms. So you've got a room full of moms and dads (collectively, we call them "Parents.") ... Get over the gender thing, will ya, Huggies? Because, as best as I can tell from all the comments you're ignoring on Facebook, most of us parents have been over the gender thing for years.

Huggies did not take all that advice. What it did was pull one of the series -- the one with the men watching sports. (I can't show it to you because the company may not be perfect at reading its intended customer, but it is dynamite at scrubbing all links from the internet.) It replaced that one with this, a spot about babies napping happily on their dads' chests, though, for the moment at least, it carries the same "dads...put diapers to the test" message.

That tagline will change soon, promises Aric Melzl, the brand director for Huggies, who rushed from Wisconsin to appear at the conference, where the snowballing Dad-blog movement was gathered in one place.

Huggies loves and respects fathers, he assured me during a day spent mending fences and smoothing feathers with any blogger who would listen. This ad campaign was meant to be a "celebration" of Dads who ably care for kids, he said, but "clearly our intent wasn't coming through." Himself the father of three children, ages 9, 8 and 5, he knows first hand that "dads are doing that more and more, and we thought this was a great way to shine a light on that," he said. "But that doesn't seem to have been the takeaway for many dads."

And what was the takeaway for the company?

"That the social media space is a great way to get immediate feedback," he said.

Why all this effort, I asked him. After all, by the company's measure, men really don't buy all that many diapers. Is it because they are an untapped potential market? Because they are newly vocal and empowered? Because the reality of this new media age is that you have to respond to every fire with conviction?

Not really, Melzl said. Huggies is reponding to unhappy men, because those men have the ear of women. "All of this," the initial campaign, the full-on response, is targeted at moms," he said. "I don't want there to be any question about who we we're going after."

I suspect all those rankled fathers will be unhappy to hear that.

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Reply #39 posted 03/13/12 6:31pm

KingBAD

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

men just can't get a break eek

i am KING BAD!!!
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Reply #40 posted 03/13/12 6:40pm

Dave1992

Oh my god, are there really people arguing about whether this is sexist and how this is sexist and how this is "bad"? falloff

Humour, people. Use your fucking brain. It's more making fun of the stereotypical man than of any woman. I find it funny. I can laugh about steretypes, because it's obvious they don't really exist in the real world. All of you should too!

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Reply #41 posted 03/13/12 6:48pm

AsherFierce

If they get mad about it, buy them a pair or shoes. They'll get over it. wink

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Reply #42 posted 03/13/12 7:20pm

Dave1992

AsherFierce said:

If they get mad about it, buy them a pair or shoes. They'll get over it. wink

lol clapping

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Reply #43 posted 03/14/12 11:50am

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Dave1992 said:

Oh my god, are there really people arguing about whether this is sexist and how this is sexist and how this is "bad"? falloff

Humour, people. Use your fucking brain. It's more making fun of the stereotypical man than of any woman. I find it funny. I can laugh about steretypes, because it's obvious they don't really exist in the real world. All of you should too!

disbelief

eek disbelief

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Reply #44 posted 03/14/12 1:26pm

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XxAxX said:

Dave1992 said:

Oh my god, are there really people arguing about whether this is sexist and how this is sexist and how this is "bad"? falloff

Humour, people. Use your fucking brain. It's more making fun of the stereotypical man than of any woman. I find it funny. I can laugh about steretypes, because it's obvious they don't really exist in the real world. All of you should too!

disbelief

eek disbelief

I work in autoparts in coastal Maine. I talk to hundreds of these stereotypes a day. They aren't the least bit ironic about it, this is how they really think.

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Reply #45 posted 03/14/12 1:49pm

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Dave1992 said:

Oh my god, are there really people arguing about whether this is sexist and how this is sexist and how this is "bad"? falloff

Humour, people. Use your fucking brain. It's more making fun of the stereotypical man than of any woman. I find it funny. I can laugh about steretypes, because it's obvious they don't really exist in the real world. All of you should too!

disbelief

Of course, they do. How do you think they got to be a stereotypes, in the first place?

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Reply #46 posted 03/14/12 6:08pm

Dave1992

Genesia said:

Dave1992 said:

Oh my god, are there really people arguing about whether this is sexist and how this is sexist and how this is "bad"? falloff

Humour, people. Use your fucking brain. It's more making fun of the stereotypical man than of any woman. I find it funny. I can laugh about steretypes, because it's obvious they don't really exist in the real world. All of you should too!

disbelief

Of course, they do. How do you think they got to be a stereotypes, in the first place?

I believe that their existence develops mostly out of people searching for simple and plausible ways to define their own being, in search for identity. Stereotypes don't really have to reflect reality; I think the two reflect each other, while people often push themselves (and others) in certain directions to fit into and to create new stereotypes.

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