retina said:

The model doesn't look like a fair 3D representation to me. They've stripped off lots of ornaments and faces and done a "machine" interpretation of anything that looks even remotely machine-like on the tombstone. You could just as well interpret the tombstone as a wooden altar with a cross in the background, or even plant life.

^THIS^

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Graycap23 said:

KingBAD said:

it did loose a lot in the translation, didn't it?

Lost......or GAINED?

lost...

the sculpture doesn't show the

detail that was shown in the tombstone.

Rococo said:

I dont know how to feel about this. To me this show belittles past cultures. I mean why is it that when groups who don't fall under certrain cultures get labeled as having been connected with Aliens. I mean why is it that these groups cannot be given the credit for making the objects they have made? why in accordance to these shows do "heavenly aliens" have to be given credit for things such as pyramids, etc?

now this can be just a "freaky" iphone mis-hap

OR it can be a sign of the times, but that pyramid

that lite and this thread says that there may be

a communication of sorts goin on

KingBAD said:

Rococo said:

I dont know how to feel about this. To me this show belittles past cultures. I mean why is it that when groups who don't fall under certrain cultures get labeled as having been connected with Aliens. I mean why is it that these groups cannot be given the credit for making the objects they have made? why in accordance to these shows do "heavenly aliens" have to be given credit for things such as pyramids, etc?

now this can be just a "freaky" iphone mis-hap

OR it can be a sign of the times, but that pyramid

that lite and this thread says that there may be

a communication of sorts goin on

If something "awakens" from underneath that pyramid.....

PurpleJedi said:

KingBAD said:

now this can be just a "freaky" iphone mis-hap

OR it can be a sign of the times, but that pyramid

that lite and this thread says that there may be

a communication of sorts goin on

If something "awakens" from underneath that pyramid.....

Did you (or anyone else) understand that? If so can you translate please

I am interested in the "Ancient visitor" theories as there are some very curious questions poised by this, supported by facts such as similarities with Gods through different cultures etc. Could it indeed be true that Aliens visited the Earth and where believed to be Gods? Well, in all honesty, it is just as feasible a story / explanation as a God who created the Universe. There are also striking similarities in Statues and carvings etc that could be construed as evidence.

However, my Interest fades a little when some "professor" starts telling me that things from Mythology such as teh Minotaur could have been real and was a result of Alien Crossbreeding / Genetic experimenting

itsnotallover said:

PurpleJedi said:

If something "awakens" from underneath that pyramid.....

Did you (or anyone else) understand that? If so can you translate please

I am interested in the "Ancient visitor" theories as there are some very curious questions poised by this, supported by facts such as similarities with Gods through different cultures etc. Could it indeed be true that Aliens visited the Earth and where believed to be Gods? Well, in all honesty, it is just as feasible a story / explanation as a God who created the Universe. There are also striking similarities in Statues and carvings etc that could be construed as evidence.

However, my Interest fades a little when some "professor" starts telling me that things from Mythology such as teh Minotaur could have been real and was a result of Alien Crossbreeding / Genetic experimenting

as far as i can tell they're sayin there are two camps

1. says this is the avatar of whut has been written so many years ago.

(or THE MYANS HAD IT RIGHT ninner ninner)

2. says its' some freaky happenin with the iphone, but either way

one has to wonder about the timin of it all AND who's keepin an eye on the

pyramids of gaza. OR were they two different camps

itsnotallover said:

PurpleJedi said:

If something "awakens" from underneath that pyramid.....

Did you (or anyone else) understand that? If so can you translate please

Come on...you didn't see "War of the Worlds" with Tom Cruise???

Bolts of "lightning" hit the earth, which in actuality are transporting aliens to their ships burind long-ago underground.

People see what they want to see. The origonal relief has nothing that suggests advanced machinery whatsoever. I guess when people really want to believe something so much they snatch at anything and present it as proof. It's anomoly hunting to support a whack theory. When pointed out that the imagery in the relief is actually standard Mayan iconography like a bird, a god and a cross,, people dismiss it but are happy to accept that it's a fully working spaceship, why because that's more fun.

Bottom line is that a lot of what is on the history channel is to education what the spice girls were to music or what Mcdonalds is to haute cuisine.

I feel sorry for real historians who work so hard to advance human understanding when the masses are more interested in this pre packaged psuedoscientific bunk. I admit it can be fun to watch but don't think of it as education. It's just all a bit silly.

lust said:

People see what they want to see. The origonal relief has nothing that suggests advanced machinery whatsoever. I guess when people really want to believe something so much they snatch at anything and present it as proof. It's anomoly hunting to support a whack theory. When pointed out that the imagery in the relief is actually standard Mayan iconography like a bird, a god and a cross,, people dismiss it but are happy to accept that it's a fully working spaceship, why because that's more fun.

Bottom line is that a lot of what is on the history channel is to education what the spice girls were to music or what Mcdonalds is to haute cuisine.

I feel sorry for real historians who work so hard to advance human understanding when the masses are more interested in this pre packaged psuedoscientific bunk. I admit it can be fun to watch but don't think of it as education. It's just all a bit silly.

so whut are your thoughts on dark matter?

whut are your thoughts on atoms?

if an atom looks like a solar system is that

because the atom fashioned the solar system

or is an atom a solar system it's self?

please give me answers, i want to know.

KingBAD said:

lust said:

People see what they want to see. The origonal relief has nothing that suggests advanced machinery whatsoever. I guess when people really want to believe something so much they snatch at anything and present it as proof. It's anomoly hunting to support a whack theory. When pointed out that the imagery in the relief is actually standard Mayan iconography like a bird, a god and a cross,, people dismiss it but are happy to accept that it's a fully working spaceship, why because that's more fun.

Bottom line is that a lot of what is on the history channel is to education what the spice girls were to music or what Mcdonalds is to haute cuisine.

I feel sorry for real historians who work so hard to advance human understanding when the masses are more interested in this pre packaged psuedoscientific bunk. I admit it can be fun to watch but don't think of it as education. It's just all a bit silly.

so whut are your thoughts on dark matter?

whut are your thoughts on atoms?

if an atom looks like a solar system is that

because the atom fashioned the solar system

or is an atom a solar system it's self?

please give me answers, i want to know.

What has any of that got to do with what I said?

OK. Dark matter. It's known as "dark" matter beacuse what it is as not yet known. Not only am I not equipped with more knowledge than astro physisists but am not even that knowledgable on physics so I'm sorry to say, I haven't figured out dark matter.

Um, atoms, really fucking small but yet fit loads of shit inside.

Is an atom a solar system? Does it have our star "sol" in the middle of each one? If not then no. It isn't

Well that was irrelevant and a complete waste of time.

lust said:

People see what they want to see. The origonal relief has nothing that suggests advanced machinery whatsoever. I guess when people really want to believe something so much they snatch at anything and present it as proof. It's anomoly hunting to support a whack theory. When pointed out that the imagery in the relief is actually standard Mayan iconography like a bird, a god and a cross,, people dismiss it but are happy to accept that it's a fully working spaceship, why because that's more fun.

Bottom line is that a lot of what is on the history channel is to education what the spice girls were to music or what Mcdonalds is to haute cuisine.

I feel sorry for real historians who work so hard to advance human understanding when the masses are more interested in this pre packaged psuedoscientific bunk. I admit it can be fun to watch but don't think of it as education. It's just all a bit silly.

Totally.

lust said:

KingBAD said:

so whut are your thoughts on dark matter?

whut are your thoughts on atoms?

if an atom looks like a solar system is that

because the atom fashioned the solar system

or is an atom a solar system it's self?

please give me answers, i want to know.

What has any of that got to do with what I said?

OK. Dark matter. It's known as "dark" matter beacuse what it is as not yet known. Not only am I not equipped with more knowledge than astro physisists but am not even that knowledgable on physics so I'm sorry to say, I haven't figured out dark matter.

Um, atoms, really fucking small but yet fit loads of shit inside.

Is an atom a solar system? Does it have our star "sol" in the middle of each one? If not then no. It isn't

Well that was irrelevant and a complete waste of time.

but you did calm down a bit

although scientists admit they do not know if there is such a thing as intelligent alien life, and although they do not know the purpose of the pyramids in south america and egypt, and although these scientists and scholars are not entirely conversant with the history of this planet and the physical laws which surround the ordinary exchange of matter and energy, if you need to know something do not listen to the doubters. keep an open mind and come to me. for, i have the answers

XxAxX said:

although scientists admit they do not know if there is such a thing as intelligent alien life, and although they do not know the purpose of the pyramids in south america and egypt, and although these scientists and scholars are not entirely conversant with the history of this planet and the physical laws which surround the ordinary exchange of matter and energy, if you need to know something do not listen to the doubters. keep an open mind and come to me. for, i have the answers

XxAxX said:

although scientists admit they do not know if there is such a thing as intelligent alien life, and although they do not know the purpose of the pyramids in south america and egypt, and although these scientists and scholars are not entirely conversant with the history of this planet and the physical laws which surround the ordinary exchange of matter and energy, if you need to know something do not listen to the doubters. keep an open mind and come to me. for, i have the answers

YES SHE DOES!!!

XxAxX said:

although scientists admit they do not know if there is such a thing as intelligent alien life, and although they do not know the purpose of the pyramids in south america and egypt, and although these scientists and scholars are not entirely conversant with the history of this planet and the physical laws which surround the ordinary exchange of matter and energy, if you need to know something do not listen to the doubters. keep an open mind and come to me. for, i have the answers

Cool. Ok, what are the pyramids for?

lust said:

XxAxX said:

although scientists admit they do not know if there is such a thing as intelligent alien life, and although they do not know the purpose of the pyramids in south america and egypt, and although these scientists and scholars are not entirely conversant with the history of this planet and the physical laws which surround the ordinary exchange of matter and energy, if you need to know something do not listen to the doubters. keep an open mind and come to me. for, i have the answers

Cool. Ok, what are the pyramids for?

directionals

KingBAD said:

lust said:

Cool. Ok, what are the pyramids for?

directionals

I always though they were tombs. That will teach me to respect the years of research done by mere leading egyptologists. I should just ask the experts. Anyway, pick the most exciting and other wordly hypothesis and go with that. That seems to be the modus operandi around here.

lust said:

XxAxX said:

although scientists admit they do not know if there is such a thing as intelligent alien life, and although they do not know the purpose of the pyramids in south america and egypt, and although these scientists and scholars are not entirely conversant with the history of this planet and the physical laws which surround the ordinary exchange of matter and energy, if you need to know something do not listen to the doubters. keep an open mind and come to me. for, i have the answers

Cool. Ok, what are the pyramids for?

nah. it's up to YOU to educate yourself on this stuff, and, preferably before you attempt to speak on it

lust said:

KingBAD said:

directionals

I always though they were tombs. That will teach me to respect the years of research done by mere leading egyptologists. I should just ask the experts. Anyway, pick the most exciting and other wordly hypothesis and go with that. That seems to be the modus operandi around here.

even the experts are not certain why the great pyramid was built according to the design below. perhaps you can explain it? (please be sure to actually read the content below, prior to responding and explaining the ascending and descending passages. thank you)

Diagram of the interior structures of the Great Pyramid. The inner line indicates the pyramid's present profile, the outer line indicates the original profile.

The original entrance to the Great Pyramid is 17 metres (56 ft) vertically above ground level and 7.29 metres (23.9 ft) east of the center line of the pyramid. From this original entrance there is a Descending Passage .96 metres (3.1 ft) high and 1.04 metres (3.4 ft) wide which goes down at an angle of 26° 31'23" through the masonry of the pyramid and then into the bedrock beneath it. After 105.23 metres (345.2 ft) the passage becomes level and continues for an additional 8.84 metres (29.0 ft) to the lower Chamber, which appears not to have been finished. There is a continuation of the horizontal passage in the south wall of the lower chamber; there is also a pit dug in the floor of the chamber. Some Egyptologists suggest this Lower Chamber was intended to be the original burial chamber, but Pharaoh Khufu later changed his mind and wanted it to be higher up in the pyramid.^[26]

At 28.2 metres (93 ft) from the entrance is a square hole in the roof of the Descending Passage. Originally concealed with a slab of stone, this is the beginning of the Ascending Passage. The Ascending Passage is 39.3 metres (129 ft) long, as wide and high as the Descending Passage and slopes up at almost precisely the same angle. The lower end of the Ascending Passage is closed by three huge blocks of granite, each about 1.5 metres (4.9 ft) long. At the start of the Grand Gallery on the right-hand side there is a hole cut in the wall (and now blocked by chicken wire). This is the start of a vertical shaft which follows an irregular path through the masonry of the pyramid to join the Descending Passage. Also at the start of the Grand Gallery there is a Horizontal Passage leading to the "Queen's Chamber". The passage is 1.1m (3'8") high for most of its length, but near the chamber there is a step in the floor, after which the passage is 1.73 metres (5.7 ft) high.

and, giving south america equal play time:

here is the pyramid at chichen itza. definitely NOT a tomb, and known to be a giant calendar:

and hre is a ziggurat (pyramid) that was built in mesopotamian times. it is known to be part of a temple complex but no one really knows for certain why it was built. perhaps, just maybe, under the cirucmstances, given that the experts themselves have no definitive answers, it might be best to keep an open mind as to the intended purpose of these things, right?

...and let's not forget the remains of ancient pyramids in the USA...

The Cahokia pyramid;

There is NOTHING about these things in American history books.

Check out for yourselves PYRAMIDS AROUND THE WORLD

lust said:

KingBAD said:

directionals

I always though they were tombs. That will teach me to respect the years of research done by mere leading egyptologists. I should just ask the experts. Anyway, pick the most exciting and other wordly hypothesis and go with that. That seems to be the modus operandi around here.

okay. now that we’ve demonstrated that you are not an expert on pyramid design, history, and intended purpose, (see, posts above), i’d like to ask you this: why do you behave this way on the ORG? my questions arises from the interactions that you and I have had lately, exchanges in which you attempt to disqualify my opinions, and the opinions of others, on topics about which even the experts have no final answers. take for example your posts here. even though you do not really know about the pyramids, you show up on this thread and make digs at other people’s creative ideas. so i’m curious. why do you do this?

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lust said:

KingBAD said:

directionals

I always though they were tombs. That will teach me to respect the years of research done by mere leading egyptologists. I should just ask the experts. Anyway, pick the most exciting and other wordly hypothesis and go with that. That seems to be the modus operandi around here.

PurpleJedi said:

...and let's not forget the remains of ancient pyramids in the USA...

The Cahokia pyramid;

There is NOTHING about these things in American history books.

Check out for yourselves PYRAMIDS AROUND THE WORLD

Why did I not know about this!! Thanks for sharing.

PurpleJedi said:

...and let's not forget the remains of ancient pyramids in the USA...

The Cahokia pyramid;

There is NOTHING about these things in American history books.

Check out for yourselves PYRAMIDS AROUND THE WORLD

i didn't even know there are pyramids here in the USA

http://discovermagazine.c...d-builders

a thousand years ago, no one could have missed Cahokia—a complex, sophisticated society with an urban center, satellite villages, and as many as 50,000 people in all. Thatched-roof houses lined the central plazas. Merchants swapped copper, mica, and seashells from as far away as the Great Lakes and the Gulf of Mexico. Thousands of cooking fires burned night and day. And between A.D. 1000 and 1300, Cahokians built more than 120 earthen mounds as landmarks, tombs, and ceremonial platforms. The largest of these monuments, now called Monks Mound, still dominates the site. It is a flat-topped pyramid of dirt that covers more than 14 acres and once supported a 5,000-square-foot temple. Monks Mound is bigger than any of the three great pyramids at Giza outside Cairo. “This is the third or fourth biggest pyramid in the world, in terms of volume,” says archaeologist Tim Pauketat of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. It towers 100 feet over a 40-acre plaza that was surrounded by lesser mounds and a two-mile-long stockade. The monument was the crowning achievement of a mound-building culture that began thousands of years earlier and was never duplicated on this continent.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

PurpleJedi said:

...and let's not forget the remains of ancient pyramids in the USA...

The Cahokia pyramid;

There is NOTHING about these things in American history books.

Check out for yourselves PYRAMIDS AROUND THE WORLD

Why did I not know about this!! Thanks for sharing.

Because acknowledging that there were sophisticated pre-Columbian civilizations in North America would debunk the myth of "savages" roaming around in tee-pees half-naked, just begging for white men to make them "civilized".

PurpleJedi said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Why did I not know about this!! Thanks for sharing.

Because acknowledging that there were sophisticated pre-Columbian civilizations in North America would debunk the myth of "savages" roaming around in tee-pees half-naked, just begging for white men to make them "civilized".

It doesn't need debunking. Anyone who can chew gum and breathe at the same time KNOWS the lies that have been told and that are reinforced every single day. The lies are being exposed.