PurpleJedi said:

XxAxX said:

best AND worst

never seen it

it's a movie so bad it's good. the premise is killer clowns from outer space. they capture the village people, wrap them in cotton candy cocoons and store them aboard their spacecraft, which is disguised to look like a big top. do they get away with their nefarious activities? will a plucky earthling save the day?? it's a MUST see

Best...that means they really scared ME...

Least scary and stupid to me...

PurpleJedi said:

What do you consider to be some of the BEST and the WORST (as in lame) villains in science fiction?

...and some of the lame ones...

...a letdown almost as epic as the movie itself.

I almost asked you to turn in your saber, P-Jedi.

REALLY? T/P was absolutely right. Ep I was a letdown because George was rusty, IMHO. But Darth Maul is -- and REMAINS -- one of the baddest dudes in all of sci-fi. He made the movie with arguably the best saber showdown this side of Ep V. The last minute and a half is hysterically edited.

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namepeace said:

PurpleJedi said:

What do you consider to be some of the BEST and the WORST (as in lame) villains in science fiction?

...and some of the lame ones...

...a letdown almost as epic as the movie itself.

I almost asked you to turn in your saber, P-Jedi.

REALLY? T/P was absolutely right. Ep I was a letdown because George was rusty, IMHO. But Darth Maul is -- and REMAINS -- one of the baddest dudes in all of sci-fi. He made the movie with arguably the best saber showdown this side of Ep V. The last minute and a half is hysterically edited.

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Scare me, you do not.

I did mention that I based my appraisal exclusively on the movie.

I remember watching him get cut in half and falling down the "emperor-like" well and thinking; "That's IT?"

Plus, talk about a lack of character development, by the time Darth Vader cut down Obiwan in the original film, we already hated him. He was a badass. We were never given a chance to see the darkside of Darth Maul. He looked scary and had a killer saber. Where were the decapitated kittens?

XxAxX said:

PurpleJedi said:

XxAxX said: never seen it

it's a movie so bad it's good. the premise is killer clowns from outer space. they capture the village people, wrap them in cotton candy cocoons and store them aboard their spacecraft, which is disguised to look like a big top. do they get away with their nefarious activities? will a plucky earthling save the day?? it's a MUST see

Now I have to go rent this.

PurpleJedi said:

namepeace said:

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Scare me, you do not.

I did mention that I based my appraisal exclusively on the movie.

I remember watching him get cut in half and falling down the "emperor-like" well and thinking; "That's IT?"

Plus, talk about a lack of character development, by the time Darth Vader cut down Obiwan in the original film, we already hated him. He was a badass. We were never given a chance to see the darkside of Darth Maul. He looked scary and had a killer saber. Where were the decapitated kittens?

He did take out Qui-Gon, a master Jedi, and only gor beat by Obi-Wan because he got caught slipping. The boy was bad from the beginning but got taken out to elevate Obi-Wan quickly, and from a practical standpoint, Maul was too young for Vader to plausibly replace.

BUT . . . he's coming back. Maybe not for long but he's coming back . . . in the Clone Wars series, each of which (serial version and full-length version) are better than I and II combined. He'll presumably train Savage Oppress, who's a Shaq-sized version of Maul.

namepeace said:

PurpleJedi said:

Scare me, you do not.

I did mention that I based my appraisal exclusively on the movie.

I remember watching him get cut in half and falling down the "emperor-like" well and thinking; "That's IT?"

Plus, talk about a lack of character development, by the time Darth Vader cut down Obiwan in the original film, we already hated him. He was a badass. We were never given a chance to see the darkside of Darth Maul. He looked scary and had a killer saber. Where were the decapitated kittens?

He did take out Qui-Gon, a master Jedi, and only gor beat by Obi-Wan because he got caught slipping. The boy was bad from the beginning but got taken out to elevate Obi-Wan quickly, and from a practical standpoint, Maul was too young for Vader to plausibly replace.

BUT . . . he's coming back. Maybe not for long but he's coming back . . . in the Clone Wars series, each of which (serial version and full-length version) are better than I and II combined. He'll presumably train Savage Oppress, who's a Shaq-sized version of Maul.

I really should get into the Clone Wars.

Oh, what's more villainous than The Blob?

morningsong said:

Oh, what's more villainous than The Blob?

I don't remember much of this movie...they ship it to Antartica at the end, right?

I remember bits & pieces of the original black-&-white movie...it was scary!

PurpleJedi said:

morningsong said:

Oh, what's more villainous than The Blob?

I don't remember much of this movie...they ship it to Antartica at the end, right?

I remember bits & pieces of the original black-&-white movie...it was scary!

All gut and no brain. Scary.

Darth Maul was way too contrived and unrealized to be badass. There was simply no magic.

Darth Vadar was not only a costume, he was a character.

I just watched The Terminator again, and what a perfect use of an actor that was! And I heard Arnold was to be cast as the hero, and it was him who suggested that he would be best as the Terminator. So he gets credit for that.

Actually the T2 guy was pretty good too--and not attempting to be a copy of Arnold in the slightest. A combination blob/computer. Very good.

NDRU said:

Actually the T2 guy was pretty good too--and not attempting to be a copy of Arnold in the slightest. A combination blob/computer. Very good.

Ooh, I forgot about that guy! He looked like the kind of cop who'd rescue your cat out of a tree, and next thing you know, he's impaling you on a spike that two seconds ago was his arm!

Weyoun and the Female Changeling from DS9.

retina said:

Best!

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I'm partial to dangerous female androids.

I can't decide if this guy is on the Best list or the Worst list.

I think I skipped right over the sci-fi part.

noimageatall said:

I think I skipped right over the sci-fi part.

I wasn't gonna say nuthin'

It's my own damned thread and I missed the Holy Grail of sucky sci-fi villains..

PurpleJedi said:

It's my own damned thread and I missed the Holy Grail of sucky sci-fi villains..

They were the first ones that popped into my head lol

How terrible was that film?

I didn't watch it all .

BEST

WORST

the aliens of Independence Day, I mean, they thought they were so badass, unstoppable and smart, but in the end they were defeated by a Windows95 virus lol

oh, and if we're including videogames, here are the BEST (don't know any lame sci-fi videogame villian of relevance...)

muirdo said:

PurpleJedi said:

It's my own damned thread and I missed the Holy Grail of sucky sci-fi villains..

They were the first ones that popped into my head lol

How terrible was that film?

I didn't watch it all .

I didn't watch it all either.

Actually, I found many of the themes interesting, and I loved the way that they showed how humans "heard" the aliens and how the aliens "heard" humans. Definite kudos for that (don't know if that's ever been done before or since).

JoeTyler said:

BEST

WORST

the aliens of Independence Day, I mean, they thought they were so badass, unstoppable and smart, but in the end they were defeated by a Windows95 virus lol

oh, and if we're including videogames, here are the BEST (don't know any lame sci-fi videogame villian of relevance...)

OH YEAH...the original Terminator was badass. From the moment he "landed" and punched his fist right through that dude to steal his clothes up 'til the end when his severed/crushed carapace is stil clawing its way to Sarah Connor...it's awesome.

I'm not a gamer so I'm not familiar with those characters.

PurpleJedi said:

OH YEAH...the original Terminator was badass. From the moment he "landed" and punched his fist right through that dude to steal his clothes up 'til the end when his severed/crushed carapace is stil clawing its way to Sarah Connor...it's awesome.

I'm not a gamer so I'm not familiar with those characters.

the first Terminator scared the hell outta me; I could almost FEEL the steel piercing my flesh, or just crushing my neck with cold efficience...

"I'm not a gamer so I'm not familiar with those characters".

never too late to embrace the ultimate world of videogames, cinema is dead, videogames are not...

JoeTyler said:

PurpleJedi said:

OH YEAH...the original Terminator was badass. From the moment he "landed" and punched his fist right through that dude to steal his clothes up 'til the end when his severed/crushed carapace is stil clawing its way to Sarah Connor...it's awesome.

I'm not a gamer so I'm not familiar with those characters.

the first Terminator scared the hell outta me; I could almost FEEL the steel piercing my flesh, or just crushing my neck with cold efficience...

"I'm not a gamer so I'm not familiar with those characters".

never too late to embrace the ultimate world of videogames, cinema is dead, videogames are not...

PurpleJedi said:

JoeTyler said:

the first Terminator scared the hell outta me; I could almost FEEL the steel piercing my flesh, or just crushing my neck with cold efficience...

"I'm not a gamer so I'm not familiar with those characters".

never too late to embrace the ultimate world of videogames, cinema is dead, videogames are not...

are you boxed because the terminator scares you, or cuz you're not a gamer?

PurpleJedi said:

noimageatall said:

I think I skipped right over the sci-fi part.

I wasn't gonna say nuthin'

Thanks...

JoeTyler said:

PurpleJedi said:

are you boxed because the terminator scares you, or cuz you're not a gamer?

BOTH actually.

noimageatall said:

PurpleJedi said:

I wasn't gonna say nuthin'

Thanks...

So judging by your avie...you must have sci-fi faves & dislikes, no? (besides Alien)

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The "Dark Star" or "Evil" from The Fifth Element, maybe the most underrated sci-fi flick of the last 20 years, was pretty menacing. I'd have to put "it" up there. None of the other villains on this list would stand a chance against it.