OnlyNDaUsa said:

Dewrede said:

^

ok

particularly that last sentence made me go

the girl made a stupid choice and got PWND. it is her own fault.

And if the cop just shot her in the head, it would be her own fault?

[img:$uid]http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzvczxwZcO1qbzqexo1_500.gif[/img:$uid] @ some folks' excuse of dude using that taser...

he is not fit enough to b a cop he took the easy way out because he couldnt run

he should b behind a desk not out chasing crims that he would never b able to catch

and what ever it was that she did does not justify the outcome - instead of a couple of months in prison she got life and so did her family

Some people in this thread need to just stay in P&R.

buist said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

the girl made a stupid choice and got PWND. it is her own fault.

And if the cop just shot her in the head, it would be her own fault?

no that would be over the line. Now I would have let her run... she was not going to get far. And I can agree that the cop was dumb to use the tazer when she was on a hard surface... but in the end: girl should not have run away.

this is right here in our neck of the woods.

the girl slipped the handcuffs to the front and ran into a very busy highway.

don't get arrested and run and you won't fall on your head when Johnny Law tazes you. end of story.

i am re-thinking it a little. that as she was standing on concrete and HE knew she would fall hard and not be able to break her fall... maybe he should not have used it.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

buist said:

And if the cop just shot her in the head, it would be her own fault?

no that would be over the line. Now I would have let her run... she was not going to get far. And I can agree that the cop was dumb to use the tazer when she was on a hard surface... but in the end: girl should not have run away.

That doesn't make any sense.

Okay, I got a question: this is not an attack on fat or anything, but can someone please tell me, for those that "respect" and "salute" the law that be or whatever, why couldn't the police department get a much leaner guy who could've saved the trouble and get the girl before using a taser?

Everyone's going on about how it was his job or how the girl shouldn't have been tasered - which I agreed that it shouldn't have happened, but I wanna know was it negligence on THEIR (the PD) part for not getting someone skilled to chase her and stop her from running towards the street?

This was definitely preventable...

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buist said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

no that would be over the line. Now I would have let her run... she was not going to get far. And I can agree that the cop was dumb to use the tazer when she was on a hard surface... but in the end: girl should not have run away.

That doesn't make any sense.

it was a little awkwardly worded but it is clear.

that Hitting her on her head would be over the line.

as a cop i would have let her run. She would not have been able to get away.

and the girl was running across a hard surface concrete or asphalt (as opposed to grass) and her hands were cuffed so when she falls she would not be able to break her fall. So he should not have used the tazzer on her.

^ If you let her run, she stood a chance of getting her ass run over...

Timmy84 said:

^ If you let her run, she stood a chance of getting her ass run over...

yeah, it is not an easy choice to make.

Timmy84 said:

Okay, I got a question: this is not an attack on fat or anything, but can someone please tell me, for those that "respect" and "salute" the law that be or whatever, why couldn't the police department get a much leaner guy who could've saved the trouble and get the girl before using a taser?

Everyone's going on about how it was his job or how the girl shouldn't have been tasered - which I agreed that it shouldn't have happened, but I wanna know was it negligence on THEIR (the PD) part for not getting someone skilled to chase her and stop her from running towards the street?

This was definitely preventable...

[Edited 2/25/12 16:24pm]

No.

Did he have a 'duty' to chase her and apprehend her? No. (He'd apprehended her, as she was in handcuffs.)

SpaceInBetween said:

SUPRMAN said:

Try being Black in America . . . . It only it were as simple as abide by the law and they won't f with you.

I am black and I live in America..so what the F are you talking about? put away the race card. Try living in DC with these people and you're perception will change on crime real quick...

I'm Black and from Oakland. I've been to D.C. multiple occassions. Not much difference.

My personal experience, not a race card, is that I don't have to be doing anything wrong to be pulled over and questioned by police for being in my neighborhood. Put on the ground, at gunpoint, on the block I lived on. Apparently there had been a bank robbery a couple of miles away. ???

You know what? I had no idea a taser could do that much damage to someone. I always thought that yeah, it's a temporary shock and probably hurts like hell at the time, but that it's basically harmless and does no permanent damage. Which, in retrospect, seems like a really stupid assumption to have made.

I actually wanted a taser but now I'm like, "I'll pass".

Dren5 said:

You know what? I had no idea a taser could do that much damage to someone. I always thought that yeah, it's a temporary shock and probably hurts like hell at the time, but that it's basically harmless and does no permanent damage. Which, in retrospect, seems like a really stupid assumption to have made.

I actually wanted a taser but now I'm like, "I'll pass".

i think the brain damage was due to her hitting her head on the ground

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Dren5 said:

You know what? I had no idea a taser could do that much damage to someone. I always thought that yeah, it's a temporary shock and probably hurts like hell at the time, but that it's basically harmless and does no permanent damage. Which, in retrospect, seems like a really stupid assumption to have made.

I actually wanted a taser but now I'm like, "I'll pass".

i think the brain damage was due to her hitting her head on the ground

They are extremely painful.

They immobilize you leaving you completely defenseless against something as simple and common as falling to the ground.

In general, tasers are abusive and have -always- been controversial. They need to be removed.

I heard tasers are indeed dangerous if met on impact. Some people claim they don't get hurt by tasers but some who do wouldn't feel due to their drug addictions (I've seen truTV) but anyone else who gets tasered will probably tell you it's no picnic. Hell girl could've been braindead from the taser itself. It's not always because they dropped to the ground face first.

Timmy84 said:

I heard tasers are indeed dangerous if met on impact. Some people claim they don't get hurt by tasers but some who do wouldn't feel due to their drug addictions (I've seen truTV) but anyone else who gets tasered will probably tell you it's no picnic. Hell girl could've been braindead from the taser itself. It's not always because they dropped to the ground face first.

It's like people forgot the "Don't Taste Me Bro" dude or any number of other videos where cops taser someone and they scream out in excrutiating pain. That's not a joke. SHIT HURTS.

Not to mention, I believe it was last year where the story came up about the drunk homeless guy who was trying to break into a car. Cops tasered him. He died from the tasering.

Spinlight said:

Timmy84 said:

I heard tasers are indeed dangerous if met on impact. Some people claim they don't get hurt by tasers but some who do wouldn't feel due to their drug addictions (I've seen truTV) but anyone else who gets tasered will probably tell you it's no picnic. Hell girl could've been braindead from the taser itself. It's not always because they dropped to the ground face first.

It's like people forgot the "Don't Taste Me Bro" dude or any number of other videos where cops taser someone and they scream out in excrutiating pain. That's not a joke. SHIT HURTS.

Not to mention, I believe it was last year where the story came up about the drunk homeless guy who was trying to break into a car. Cops tasered him. He died from the tasering.

I think I heard of that story too... I'm just shaking my head because some folks think tasers are nothing smh

Timmy84 said:

Spinlight said:

It's like people forgot the "Don't Taste Me Bro" dude or any number of other videos where cops taser someone and they scream out in excrutiating pain. That's not a joke. SHIT HURTS.

Not to mention, I believe it was last year where the story came up about the drunk homeless guy who was trying to break into a car. Cops tasered him. He died from the tasering.

I think I heard of that story too... I'm just shaking my head because some folks think tasers are nothing smh

A taser is an alternative to using a gun however.

What would one have a police officer do?

SUPRMAN said:

Timmy84 said:

I think I heard of that story too... I'm just shaking my head because some folks think tasers are nothing smh

A taser is an alternative to using a gun however.

What would one have a police officer do?

Oh, I dunno. About an hour on the treadmill every day might be a nice start.

Spinlight said:

SUPRMAN said:

A taser is an alternative to using a gun however.

What would one have a police officer do?

Oh, I dunno. About an hour on the treadmill every day might be a nice start.

Spinlight said:

SUPRMAN said:

A taser is an alternative to using a gun however.

What would one have a police officer do?

Oh, I dunno. About an hour on the treadmill every day might be a nice start.

I agree.

Go back to the days when cops, firefighters, etc. were hired based on their physical attributes and their ability to enforce the law and carry a body on their shoulders. Get rid of the Political Correctness that makes them have to accept any candidate.

PurpleJedi said:

Spinlight said:

Oh, I dunno. About an hour on the treadmill every day might be a nice start.

I agree.

Go back to the days when cops, firefighters, etc. were hired based on their physical attributes and their ability to enforce the law and carry a body on their shoulders. Get rid of the Political Correctness that makes them have to accept any candidate.

Then they wonder why cops get mocked for always going to fast food stores...

For the ppl that are brushing off the tasering like it's nothing...do some research on how tasers affect the body...especially the heart and the nervous system.

PurpleJedi said:

Spinlight said:

Oh, I dunno. About an hour on the treadmill every day might be a nice start.

I agree.

Go back to the days when cops, firefighters, etc. were hired based on their physical attributes and their ability to enforce the law and carry a body on their shoulders. Get rid of the Political Correctness that makes them have to accept any candidate.

right!

I have seen federal police officers with braces and pronounced limp (you know the kind of brace polio victims have).

one that is about 5'6" and weighs about 350 pounds, and one with a deformed hand (from birth).

and I am thinking, "how are they going to protect my public safety? They can barely walk.

prodigalfan said:

PurpleJedi said:

I agree.

Go back to the days when cops, firefighters, etc. were hired based on their physical attributes and their ability to enforce the law and carry a body on their shoulders. Get rid of the Political Correctness that makes them have to accept any candidate.

right!

I have seen federal police officers with braces and pronounced limp (you know the kind of brace polio victims have).

one that is about 5'6" and weighs about 350 pounds, and one with a deformed hand (from birth).

and I am thinking, "how are they going to protect my public safety? They can barely walk.

Some people are JUST not cut out for the job.