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The Full-length Avengers Trailer

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Reply #1 posted 02/06/12 10:02am

retina

All superhero movies are a bit silly and it only gets sillier the more superheroes they pack into the action. That's why I never got into the X-Men movies.

Also, the more superheroes they have, the more powerful they are, which takes away from the excitment and sense of peril. As for the Avengers movie specifically, I'm really confused by their decision to make Loki the villain - since it only took a single one of the Avengers to easily defeat him before.

Still, I'll probably end up watching it. rolleyes

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Reply #2 posted 02/06/12 12:17pm

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retina said:

All superhero movies are a bit silly and it only gets sillier the more superheroes they pack into the action. That's why I never got into the X-Men movies.

Also, the more superheroes they have, the more powerful they are, which takes away from the excitment and sense of peril. As for the Avengers movie specifically, I'm really confused by their decision to make Loki the villain - since it only took a single one of the Avengers to easily defeat him before.

Still, I'll probably end up watching it. rolleyes

I agree...WTF?

By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #3 posted 02/06/12 12:29pm

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I'm just here for Thor..

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Reply #4 posted 02/06/12 12:35pm

retina

PurpleJedi said:

retina said:

All superhero movies are a bit silly and it only gets sillier the more superheroes they pack into the action. That's why I never got into the X-Men movies.

Also, the more superheroes they have, the more powerful they are, which takes away from the excitment and sense of peril. As for the Avengers movie specifically, I'm really confused by their decision to make Loki the villain - since it only took a single one of the Avengers to easily defeat him before.

Still, I'll probably end up watching it. rolleyes

I agree...WTF?

At least we'll get to see Scarlett Johansson in a cat suit.

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Reply #5 posted 02/06/12 12:39pm

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retina said:

PurpleJedi said:

I agree...WTF?

At least we'll get to see Scarlett Johansson in a cat suit.

THAT, my friend, is why nothing else matters.

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Reply #6 posted 02/06/12 12:45pm

Identity

PurpleJedi said:

retina said:

All superhero movies are a bit silly and it only gets sillier the more superheroes they pack into the action. That's why I never got into the X-Men movies.

Also, the more superheroes they have, the more powerful they are, which takes away from the excitment and sense of peril. As for the Avengers movie specifically, I'm really confused by their decision to make Loki the villain - since it only took a single one of the Avengers to easily defeat him before.

Still, I'll probably end up watching it. rolleyes

I agree...WTF?

Kang the Conqueror, the Skrulls, Ultron, Count Nefaria, the Squadron Sinister, Grim Reaper and Thanos are some of the greatest villains to challenge the Avengers-- and they went with punk ass Loki? Lame.

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Reply #7 posted 02/06/12 12:51pm

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Identity said:

PurpleJedi said:

I agree...WTF?

Kang the Conqueror, the Skrulls, Ultron, Count Nefaria, the Squadron Sinister, Grim Reaper and Thanos are some of the greatest villains to challenge the Avengers-- and they went with punk ass Loki? Lame.

Seriously.

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Reply #8 posted 02/06/12 1:01pm

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Loki was the villain in Avengers #1 back in 1963 so the movie is rightly going back to its roots by having him as the team's main nemesis. As the god of mischief, he can turn the team members on each other and is a formidable foe. I am glad that multiple villains weren't used to mess this movie up.

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Reply #9 posted 02/06/12 1:03pm

KingBAD

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YES!!!

now,

let's see whut DC wil

do to counter this attack

"the justice league" against "the legion of doom" perhaps???

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE...
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Reply #10 posted 02/06/12 5:15pm

Milty

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KingBAD said:

YES!!!

now,

let's see whut DC wil

do to counter this attack

"the justice league" against "the legion of doom" perhaps???

Funny you should mention that.

Source: http://www.comicbookmovie...s/?a=54181

Will Warner Brothers / DC ever awaken from their Eternal Slumber?

With so many movies on the agenda for Marvel and so little for DC, obviously there are a lot of questionable factors which come into play on which movies come first and which movies fall into development hell for a while.
SuperArgo - 2/6/2012
Warner Bros. hopes to cure a case of superhero Envy.
After years of lagging rival Marvel Entertainment in adapting comic-book properties for the big screen and other media, the Burbank studio unveiled a major restructuring of its DC Comics unit that will bring its operations under tighter control.

The move is an effort by Warner Bros. and corporate parent Time Warner Inc. to implement a new strategy for DC Comics, which will face stiffer competition from a steroid-charged Marvel as a result of Walt Disney Co.'s deal last week to acquire it for $4 billion.

For the four decades that Warner has owned DC, the publisher of such classic comics as "Superman," "Batman" and "Wonder Woman," the New York publisher has operated largely independently of the studio.
As superhero movies have become one of the most profitable genres in Hollywood, tensions between DC and Warner have contributed to the studio's inability to match the success of Marvel, which has scored on the big screen with such A-list characters as Spider-Man and lesser-known ones such as Iron Man and X-Men.

"It almost appears as if Warner Bros. were just buying DC now and deciding what to do with it," Numerous DC properties, including "Wonder Woman," "Justice League" and "The Flash," have languished in development at Warner Bros. for years, with little coordination among the studio's producers and executives and the comic-book publisher.



In one notable example, the CW Network, which Warner Bros. co-owns, last year announced plans to produce a show based on Batman's sidekick, Robin. Several months later it was killed after Motion Picture Group President Jeff Robinov and "Dark Knight" director Christopher Nolan, who hadn't been consulted, expressed their disapproval, according to people familiar with the situation.

Warner has had a mixed history with the DC properties it has adapted for other media.Its biggest success, 2008's "The Dark Knight," generated more than $1 billion in worldwide ticket sales and was a top DVD seller.
However, the studio's "Watchmen" movie released was a box-office disappointment, 2006's costly "Superman Returns" wasn't successful enough to merit another sequel, and films that were a flop "Catwoman," "Jonah Hex," "The Losers"and "The Green Lantern."



Seemingly in response to the Marvel/Disney buyout, Warner Brothers have announced a surprise restructuring, creating its own in-house IP-development company, DC Entertainment. Which means WB might be jump starting its stalled-out superhero movies — hopefully including Wonder Woman.

This clever marketing move hot on the heels of the Marvel announcement was no doubt pushed out early to keep up with the Disney hype machine. But Warner Brothers President, Jeff Robinov has always had a plan for DC.
DC seems to be having trouble emulating Marvel's strategy of putting out multiple super-films per year. But that may soon be changing.

It's a fact: Despite having a huge library of legendary comic book superheroes to draw from, DC Comics has not capitalized on their catalogue the way Marvel has. But that could be about to change. Yes, it's been said before, but this time DC and Warner Bros. mean business.

The Flash. Wonder Woman seems to have stalled. We're hoping to soon hear more on the status of the troubled Justice League waiting in the wings. Furthermore, Shazam! is supposedly coming our way. Teen Titans has been announced, but has gone mostly silent since last year. Remember Plastic Man? Aquaman is highly-anticipated, but it doesn't seem to be in active development. And let's not forget about Supergirl.

There is no question Marvel studios is on top of their game in recent years. Their franchises continue to impress audiences in transferring from comic book form to the big screen. Sure, there are the occasional misses with both critics and audiences but for the most part, they're on a roll with their perspective franchises. In the past, Marvel would sell the movie rights to their superheroes and graphic novels and there would be a hodgepodge of various big screen versions hitting the screen from different studios at any given time.



That said, they have a lot of new movies to oversee. Here's a list of upcoming Marvel based movies:

Doctor Strange
Luke Cage
Wolverine 2
Punisher 3
Iron Man 3
Sub-Mariner
Nick Fury
Iron Fist
Ant Man
Black Panther
Thor 2
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Fantastic Four (reboot)
Daredevil (reboot)
X-Men First Class 2
The Avengers 2
Captain America 2

No more of that from Marvel. The studio has began a policy of taking over their movie rights and character storylines and staying in charge of their properties. If you include the equation that Marvel Studios is now maintaining more of that controlling grip on any future film adaptations of their films, it can only be more positive for Marvel and its leadership….That is all.


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Reply #11 posted 02/06/12 5:48pm

KingBAD

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DC crapped out with the green lantern

but they may make that up when they

gett to the black one, john somethinoranother,

the right wonder woman, and pick a

superman they can stand fo a minit.

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE...
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Reply #12 posted 02/06/12 8:41pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

I'm sorry but..... X-MEN WHO?????
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #13 posted 02/06/12 9:35pm

Milty

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I do admit that in my opnion, the Marvel films are kinda cheesy and don't really allow for character development. They don't make use of the back stories that the DC characters have like Batman and Superman. They don't have great supporting characters like Commissioner Gordon or Jimmy Olsen.

I did really enjoy Thor and X-Men: First Class but the rest to me was "meh". I am looking forward to the Avengers too.

Unfortunately, I don't really know why they aren't ramping up more of their characters and giving them films. But if they do something like Wonder Woman, it has to be sooo right. maybe that's why they are waiting. I mean, for someone to play WW, she has to REALLY be the part. No half measures or someone that we will all forget. Just like Christian Bale was the best Bruce Wayne, so to has whoever gets picked to play WW.

Henry Cavill looks set to be a great Superman.

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Reply #14 posted 02/06/12 9:58pm

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I will be in the theater on that first day with my snacks and drool bucket.

"Funkyslsistah… you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude"!
"It's just my imagination, once again running away with me."
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Reply #15 posted 02/06/12 10:34pm

Mephiles

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This movie will be epic. Been looking forward to it since Iron Man

Have u had ur + today?
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Reply #16 posted 02/07/12 7:10am

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Reply #17 posted 02/07/12 7:31am

uPtoWnNY

sextonseven said:

Loki was the villain in Avengers #1 back in 1963 so the movie is rightly going back to its roots by having him as the team's main nemesis. As the god of mischief, he can turn the team members on each other and is a formidable foe. I am glad that multiple villains weren't used to mess this movie up.

Exactly. Loki was the reason the heroes came together.

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Reply #18 posted 02/07/12 8:21am

Efan

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peedub said:

boycott marvel.

http://srbissette.com/?p=12761#comments

I know I should, but at the same time...I really want to see this movie.

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Reply #19 posted 02/07/12 8:27am

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Efan said:

peedub said:

boycott marvel.

http://srbissette.com/?p=12761#comments

I know I should, but at the same time...I really want to see this movie.

oh, i fully intend to see it....shortly after the release of the dvd, i'll get it off a torrent. marvel is getting exactly zero of my dollars for the pleasure of it, though.

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Reply #20 posted 02/07/12 8:35am

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peedub said:

Efan said:

I know I should, but at the same time...I really want to see this movie.

oh, i fully intend to see it....shortly after the release of the dvd, i'll get it off a torrent. marvel is getting exactly zero of my dollars for the pleasure of it, though.

It's amazing to me that even DC, as messed up as it is and as horrible as they were to Siegel & Schuster, isn't worthy of this same boycott. It's shameful of Marvel.

It's pretty easy for me to boycott most Marvel books at this point. Actually, I can't call what I'm doing a "boycott"--there's nothing honorable behind it, just the sad realization that most of their current stuff really sucks. However, I do love Brubaker's work. He's incredible, and I still support his stuff.

It's much harder for me to take the boycott stance on the movies, though (Ghost Rider--sure. I'll skip that.). But when a Marvel movie gets it right (the first Iron Man, for example), I get a total thrill watching them in the theater.

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Reply #21 posted 02/07/12 8:40am

Tokyo89

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Milty said:

KingBAD said:

YES!!!

now,

let's see whut DC wil

do to counter this attack

"the justice league" against "the legion of doom" perhaps???

Fuomic-book publisher.




That said, they have a lot of new movies to oversee. Here's a list of upcoming Marvel based movies:

Doctor Strange
Luke Cage
Wolverine 2
Punisher 3
Iron Man 3
Sub-Mariner
Nick Fury
Iron Fist
Ant Man
Black Panther
Thor 2
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Fantastic Four (reboot)
Daredevil (reboot)
X-Men First Class 2
The Avengers 2
Captain America 2

No more of that from Marvel. The studio has began a policy of taking over their movie rights and character storylines and staying in charge of their properties. If you include the equation that Marvel Studios is now maintaining more of that controlling grip on any future film adaptations of their films, it can only be more positive for Marvel and its leadership….That is all.

[Edited 2/6/12 17:16pm]

Can't wait biggrin

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Reply #22 posted 02/07/12 8:58am

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Efan said:

It's amazing to me that even DC, as messed up as it is and as horrible as they were to Siegel & Schuster, isn't worthy of this same boycott. It's shameful of Marvel.

It's pretty easy for me to boycott most Marvel books at this point. Actually, I can't call what I'm doing a "boycott"--there's nothing honorable behind it, just the sad realization that most of their current stuff really sucks. However, I do love Brubaker's work. He's incredible, and I still support his stuff.

It's much harder for me to take the boycott stance on the movies, though (Ghost Rider--sure. I'll skip that.). But when a Marvel movie gets it right (the first Iron Man, for example), I get a total thrill watching them in the theater.

siegel and shuster are a bit of a different dynamic, but yeah, time-warner is definitely worthy of the same disdain. i don't buy from them, either...more because what they produce is utter crap than anything else.

that said, i have no problem buying dc or marvel product off of ebay from private owners or downloading their movies...as long as their corporate entities don't get any of my money. if and when siegel & shuster's and jack kirby's heirs start to get their cut, i'll gladly spend my money with them. it does get difficult at times, having to deny my son the toys that he wants; but i've explained it to him, and he understands (it's so cute hearing him explain it to people).

now, if only interest in the current mark waid/marcos martin run on daredevil would die down a bit, i'd be able to afford some good superhero comics....

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Reply #23 posted 02/07/12 7:15pm

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I get the feeling this movie is gonna suck. Too many superheros.

This one's for the rich, not all of 'em, just the greedy
The ones that don't know how to give
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Reply #24 posted 02/07/12 10:35pm

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SoLiDiFy said:

I get the feeling this movie is gonna suck. Too many superheros.

if it was DC i might agree

but THIS IS MARVEL MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIN!!!!

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
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Reply #25 posted 02/08/12 8:13am

Milty

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SoLiDiFy said:

I get the feeling this movie is gonna suck. Too many superheros.

i think there will be some levels of suckiness cuz of the CGI. I bet any money that CGI is going to make some parts of it look lame. And that Cap suit - totally dorky.

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Reply #26 posted 02/08/12 11:44am

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Milty said:

SoLiDiFy said:

I get the feeling this movie is gonna suck. Too many superheros.

i think there will be some levels of suckiness cuz of the CGI. I bet any money that CGI is going to make some parts of it look lame. And that Cap suit - totally dorky.

Yeah, Cap looks awful. And agreed--I detest CGI. It has never looked good. I wish they would have left the Hulk out of it completely. Or hired a big actor to play him.

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Reply #27 posted 02/08/12 12:10pm

Identity

The Avengers Boycott, Petition eek

Feb 8, 2012

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Reply #28 posted 02/08/12 4:49pm

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i can't wait 4 this movie! i remember at the end of captain america people roaring with the teaser at the end

the problem with DC and their movies is that they use the same villians over and over again. how many lex luthor films, catwoman, joker, etc etc etc etc

at least marvel uses multiple villians tho spidey 3 sucked cause they didn't use venom properly

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #29 posted 02/09/12 6:07am

uPtoWnNY

Efan said:

Milty said:

i think there will be some levels of suckiness cuz of the CGI. I bet any money that CGI is going to make some parts of it look lame. And that Cap suit - totally dorky.

Yeah, Cap looks awful. And agreed--I detest CGI. It has never looked good. I wish they would have left the Hulk out of it completely. Or hired a big actor to play him.

How can you hire a big actor to play a 7+ foot, 1000 lb. monster who can leap miles at a time? The Hulk has to be CGI. Plus he was an original Avenger, so you can't leave him out.

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