2elijah said:

chocolate1 said:

Back in the day, I was the only Black in a Literacy class. The professor went on about how parents "in tha hood" don't read to their children... THEN she said, "Right, Lynn?"

We were sitting in a circle, so I looked around at my classmates and said, "How would I know? I grew up in suburbia with 2.2 kids and a dog."

EVERYONE was uncomfortable.

Afterward, I asked the prof why she assumed I was from the hood... No answer.

I've heard dumbass comments like that from several teachers/professors over the years attending public school and college. It's ignorance, and what the teacher said to that student in 'smoothcriminal's' class was out of line as well. It wasn't necessary. Best thing to do is make a written complaint to their supervisors and make sure it is a written one. My fellow students and I reported our college professor for making 'many' comments like that directed at African-American students. It's pathetic that as educators that they feel they have to stoop that low to insult students they're supposed to be 'educating'.

I also see it just as bad when a teacher listens to a student make those type of remarks and doesn't say anything. I remember in my senior year of high school, I had flunked American History in the 11th grade so I had to repeat the class again during my senior year. Everyone in that class was 11th graders so none of them knew anything about me. Most of my classes had about four or five blacks in them but this particular class had none.

Anyway, it was during the election where Ronald Reagan was running for his second term against Walter Mondale. The teacher asked the class what they felt the qualifications should be for someone to run for president. One guy said he must be heterosexual. No one said anything. Then, the same guy said he cannot be married to a black person. The teacher did ask him why but she didn't question his response when he said because if he's married to a black person, he will think like "they" do and be for "them". That statement is not only saying that a black person should not even be able to be president, but it's also saying that a president must be for whites and for whites only. And the heterosexual qualification is just as ridiculous.

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chocolate1 said:

PANDURITO said:

I think there is a reason why you ask yourself that question.

Please elaborate...

She wasn't overreacting.

It was a drama class

You are not overreacting at all. That was innapropriate and I don't think it should be tolerated. You should def have a talk with her. That is just pathetic, not just the teacher but the other students.

johnart said:

Genesia said:

That sounds like one lame acting class. I've taken acting classes since I was 9 - and I've never heard of a "strike a pose and say a line" exercise.

I love u bitch.

alphastreet said:

It's early in the semester right? You can still change the class it if she doesn't apologize, cause chances are, she'll continue acting like that while being oblivious to it, and you don't need that.

What?! And miss all the posing?!

this won't be popular, but yes i think you might be overreacting just a bit. i doubt the teacher intended any slur, and is likely just ignorant or incompetent at certain aspects of life. if you decide to take it as a slur remember that is your choice. but then again, i really do not know how the thing was intended since i was not there.

Thank you

PANDURITO said:

chocolate1 said:

Please elaborate...

She wasn't overreacting.

It was a drama class

smoothcriminal12 said:

PANDURITO said:

She wasn't overreacting.

It was a drama class

She was. It was out of line.

Sorry, by she I meant you. Don't know why I thought you were a girl.

Damn English lacking grammatical gender

And when you ask a group of people A or B, you must accept some may answer B

vainandy said:

2elijah said:

I've heard dumbass comments like that from several teachers/professors over the years attending public school and college. It's ignorance, and what the teacher said to that student in 'smoothcriminal's' class was out of line as well. It wasn't necessary. Best thing to do is make a written complaint to their supervisors and make sure it is a written one. My fellow students and I reported our college professor for making 'many' comments like that directed at African-American students. It's pathetic that as educators that they feel they have to stoop that low to insult students they're supposed to be 'educating'.

I also see it just as bad when a teacher listens to a student make those type of remarks and doesn't say anything. I remember in my senior year of high school, I had flunked American History in the 11th grade so I had to repeat the class again during my senior year. Everyone in that class was 11th graders so none of them knew anything about me. Most of my classes had about four or five blacks in them but this particular class had none.

Anyway, it was during the election where Ronald Reagan was running for his second term against Walter Mondale. The teacher asked the class what they felt the qualifications should be for someone to run for president. One guy said he must be heterosexual. No one said anything. Then, the same guy said he cannot be married to a black person. The teacher did ask him why but she didn't question his response when he said because if he's married to a black person, he will think like "they" do and be for "them". That statement is not only saying that a black person should not even be able to be president, but it's also saying that a president must be for whites and for whites only. And the heterosexual qualification is just as ridiculous.

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Hey Andy! I agree. Also, in that last part of your statement, reminds me of when I was in 4th grade and my teacher told the class that 'Negroes cannot be President of this country." Her exact words. So I raised my hand and asked her "Why"" She walked over to me, looked me right in the face and said "Because Negroes were slaves". Of course I didn't believe that they could never be President, based on what she said, but it is amazing some of the 'questionable' comments over the years I've heard from teachers. So glad I didn't fall for that nonsense. (Sidenote: I was waiting for you to come over in this thread to say "Hi".

http://prince.org/msg/105/375446

2elijah said:

vainandy said:

I also see it just as bad when a teacher listens to a student make those type of remarks and doesn't say anything. I remember in my senior year of high school, I had flunked American History in the 11th grade so I had to repeat the class again during my senior year. Everyone in that class was 11th graders so none of them knew anything about me. Most of my classes had about four or five blacks in them but this particular class had none.

Anyway, it was during the election where Ronald Reagan was running for his second term against Walter Mondale. The teacher asked the class what they felt the qualifications should be for someone to run for president. One guy said he must be heterosexual. No one said anything. Then, the same guy said he cannot be married to a black person. The teacher did ask him why but she didn't question his response when he said because if he's married to a black person, he will think like "they" do and be for "them". That statement is not only saying that a black person should not even be able to be president, but it's also saying that a president must be for whites and for whites only. And the heterosexual qualification is just as ridiculous.

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Hey Andy! I agree. Also, in that last part of your statement, reminds me of when I was in 4th grade and my teacher told the class that 'Negroes cannot be President of this country." Her exact words. So I raised my hand and asked her "Why"" She walked over to me, looked me right in the face and said "Because Negroes were slaves". Of course I didn't believe that they could never be President, based on what she said, but it is amazing some of the 'questionable' comments over the years I've heard from teachers. So glad I didn't fall for that nonsense. (Sidenote: I was waiting for you to come over in this thread to say "Hi".

http://prince.org/msg/105/375446

I was over there already. I posted a picture of Jayne Kennedy. Definitely one of the most beautiful women of any race that I've seen.

people say stupid shit, it doesnt have relevance, its you who wants it to mean something, ya your overreacting drama head.

jon1967 said:

drama head.

Too much? I don't even like drama, but....that's another thread.

So I talked to her.

In a nutshell, she said she was so sorry that the girls called it the black movie and that she would shut it down next time.

She said that she loved The Help and that it was about emporing woman and woman's rights. She hinted that she made the connection of "oh hell no" to that movie becuase they said things like, "You be important," and "You be special."

Oh well. What can I say. I don't think she's racist. Definitely not. She just doesn't know.

smoothcriminal12 said:

So I talked to her.

In a nutshell, she said she was so sorry that the girls called it the black movie and that she would shut it down next time.

She said that she loved The Help and that it was about emporing woman and woman's rights. She hinted that she made the connection of "oh hell no" to that movie becuase they said things like, "You be important," and "You be special."

Oh well. What can I say. I don't think she's racist. Definitely not. She just doesn't know.

I'm surprised she didn't tell you she once dated a black guy or has a black best friend or some BS like that I'm proud of you for speaking up, and even if she doesn't change overnight, she can consider it a learning experience....

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alphastreet said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

So I talked to her.

In a nutshell, she said she was so sorry that the girls called it the black movie and that she would shut it down next time.

She said that she loved The Help and that it was about emporing woman and woman's rights. She hinted that she made the connection of "oh hell no" to that movie becuase they said things like, "You be important," and "You be special."

Oh well. What can I say. I don't think she's racist. Definitely not. She just doesn't know.

I'm surprised she didn't tell you she once dated a black guy or has a black best friend or some BS like that I'm proud of you for speaking up, and even if she doesn't change overnight, she can consider it a learning experience....

[Edited 2/7/12 14:52pm]

Hopefully we'll get somewhere but oh well. We'll see.

XxAxX said:

this won't be popular, but yes i think you might be overreacting just a bit. i doubt the teacher intended any slur, and is likely just ignorant or incompetent at certain aspects of life. if you decide to take it as a slur remember that is your choice. but then again, i really do not know how the thing was intended since i was not there.

It's not about intention, it's about ignorance and insensitivity. It was inappropriate, period. It should be addressed.

smoothcriminal12 said:

alphastreet said:

I'm surprised she didn't tell you she once dated a black guy or has a black best friend or some BS like that I'm proud of you for speaking up, and even if she doesn't change overnight, she can consider it a learning experience....

[Edited 2/7/12 14:52pm]

Hopefully we'll get somewhere but oh well. We'll see.

Glad it worked out for you.

missfee said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Hopefully we'll get somewhere but oh well. We'll see.

Glad it worked out for you.

Thanks.

smoothcriminal12 said:

missfee said:

Glad it worked out for you.

Thanks.

if whut your teach said to you is good with you

it's all good, but do read my first post again...

PurpleRighteous1 said:

XxAxX said:

this won't be popular, but yes i think you might be overreacting just a bit. i doubt the teacher intended any slur, and is likely just ignorant or incompetent at certain aspects of life. if you decide to take it as a slur remember that is your choice. but then again, i really do not know how the thing was intended since i was not there.

It's not about intention, it's about ignorance and insensitivity. It was inappropriate, period. It should be addressed.

it sounds like it was addressed, and handled well. if every single person in the world decided to take offense at what was not intended to be offensive, this would be a sorry place indeed!

KingBAD said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Thanks.

if whut your teach said to you is good with you

it's all good, but do read my first post again...

It wasn't "great" with me.

But I will keep in mind what you siad...don't wanna be seen as hypersensitive.

smoothcriminal12 said:

KingBAD said:

if whut your teach said to you is good with you

it's all good, but do read my first post again...

It wasn't "great" with me.

But I will keep in mind what you siad...don't wanna be seen as hypersensitive.

God forbid...

XxAxX said:

PurpleRighteous1 said:

It's not about intention, it's about ignorance and insensitivity. It was inappropriate, period. It should be addressed.

it sounds like it was addressed, and handled well. if every single person in the world decided to take offense at what was not intended to be offensive, this would be a sorry place indeed!

I agree.

However, I think that when you felt uncomfortable you should vent how it made you feel. Irrespective of other's opinion about the validity of your feelings. There's no need to be dramatic about it.

Just say you want to say something about the incident and ask her if she was aware that she offended you? Than tell her why it upset you.

In that way, there is no need for drama, and you can talk about it. Everybody can learn and be happy. If you don't, you will stay frustrated over it. Just get it out of the way, so you can proceed openminded with the Drama classes

chocolate1 said:

Back in the day, I was the only Black in a Literacy class. The professor went on about how parents "in tha hood" don't read to their children... THEN she said, "Right, Lynn?"

We were sitting in a circle, so I looked around at my classmates and said, "How would I know? I grew up in suburbia with 2.2 kids and a dog."

EVERYONE was uncomfortable.

Afterward, I asked the prof why she assumed I was from the hood... No answer.

That's my girl!

Genesia said:

alphastreet said:

It's early in the semester right? You can still change the class it if she doesn't apologize, cause chances are, she'll continue acting like that while being oblivious to it, and you don't need that.

What?! And miss all the posing?!

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