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Thread started 02/01/12 6:11am

KingBAD

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take from this whut you will

this is not a political or religious thread

it is more a human developement thread, if there is a contervercy, it can only be 'bout my spellin.

Letter from freed slave to former master draws attention

By Eric Pfeiffer | The Sideshow22 hrs ago

ca. 1860's, USA. Freed slaves in Southern town shortly after the Civil War. © Bettmann/CORBIS

A newly discovered letter from a freed former slave to his onetime master is creating a buzz.Letters of Note explains that in August of 1865, a Colonel P.H. Anderson of Big Spring, Tennessee wrote to his former slave Jourdan Anderson, requesting that Jourdan return to work on his farm.

In the time since escaping from slavery, Anderson had become emancipated, moved to Ohio where he found paid work and was now supporting his family. The letter turned up in the August 22 edition of the New York Daily Tribune. Some excerpts:

Sir: I got your letter, and was glad to find that you had not forgotten Jourdon, and that you wanted me to come back and live with you again, promising to do better for me than anybody else can. I have often felt uneasy about you. I thought the Yankees would have hung you long before this, for harboring Rebs they found at your house. I suppose they never heard about your going to Colonel Martin's to kill the Union soldier that was left by his company in their stable. Although you shot at me twice before I left you, I did not want to hear of your being hurt, and am glad you are still living. It would do me good to go back to the dear old home again, and see Miss Mary and Miss Martha and Allen, Esther, Green, and Lee. Give my love to them all, and tell them I hope we will meet in the better world, if not in this. I would have gone back to see you all when I was working in the Nashville Hospital, but one of the neighbors told me that Henry intended to shoot me if he ever got a chance.

On the "good chance" offered by the former slave owner:

I want to know particularly what the good chance is you propose to give me. I am doing tolerably well here. I get twenty-five dollars a month, with victuals and clothing; have a comfortable home for Mandy,—the folks call her Mrs. Anderson,—and the children—Milly, Jane, and Grundy—go to school and are learning well. The teacher says Grundy has a head for a preacher. They go to Sunday school, and Mandy and me attend church regularly. We are kindly treated. Sometimes we overhear others saying, "Them colored people were slaves" down in Tennessee. The children feel hurt when they hear such remarks; but I tell them it was no disgrace in Tennessee to belong to Colonel Anderson. Many darkeys would have been proud, as I used to be, to call you master. Now if you will write and say what wages you will give me, I will be better able to decide whether it would be to my advantage to move back again.

And then Jourdan explains that anything his former master could offer, he's already earned on his own. Other than some back wages:

As to my freedom, which you say I can have, there is nothing to be gained on that score, as I got my free papers in 1864 from the Provost-Marshal-General of the Department of Nashville. Mandy says she would be afraid to go back without some proof that you were disposed to treat us justly and kindly; and we have concluded to test your sincerity by asking you to send us our wages for the time we served you. This will make us forget and forgive old scores, and rely on your justice and friendship in the future. I served you faithfully for thirty-two years, and Mandy twenty years. At twenty-five dollars a month for me, and two dollars a week for Mandy, our earnings would amount to eleven thousand six hundred and eighty dollars. Add to this the interest for the time our wages have been kept back, and deduct what you paid for our clothing, and three doctor's visits to me, and pulling a tooth for Mandy, and the balance will show what we are in justice entitled to. Please send the money by Adams's Express, in care of V. Winters, Esq., Dayton, Ohio. If you fail to pay us for faithful labors in the past, we can have little faith in your promises in the future. We trust the good Maker has opened your eyes to the wrongs which you and your fathers have done to me and my fathers, in making us toil for you for generations without recompense. Here I draw my wages every Saturday night; but in Tennessee there was never any pay-day for the negroes any more than for the horses and cows. Surely there will be a day of reckoning for those who defraud the laborer of his hire.

And after a few more jabs about how his children are now happy and receiving an education, Jourdan concludes his letter with:

Say howdy to George Carter, and thank him for taking the pistol from you when you were shooting at me.

i am KING BAD!!!
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Reply #1 posted 02/01/12 6:25am

CarrieMpls

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What a letter!

Seriously. Written with love and grace and yet firm and to the point.

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Reply #2 posted 02/01/12 8:50am

Shyra

I wonder if ole massa ever wrote back or did he have a stroke after reading the letter? nana evillol

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Reply #3 posted 02/01/12 11:54am

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Shyra said:

I wonder if ole massa ever wrote back or did he have a stroke after reading the letter? nana evillol

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He probably would have, but having to fork over eleven thousand dollars to get him back probably went over like a wet fart in Catholic Church.

By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #4 posted 02/01/12 12:23pm

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PurpleJedi said:

Shyra said:

I wonder if ole massa ever wrote back or did he have a stroke after reading the letter? nana evillol

lol

He probably would have, but having to fork over eleven thousand dollars to get him back probably went over like a wet fart in Catholic Church.

faint

lol

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Reply #5 posted 02/01/12 12:52pm

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lol

In all seriousness...this was a very interesting "insight" into the minds of people from that era.

Here you have a former slave master who tried to KILL the man leaving him turning around and writing a letter for the man to come back to work for him.

The other dude's like; "Yeah, I miss you too even if you took a shot at me, send me eleven grand and I'll think about it."

What would be the equivalent in today's society?

A former Enron executive sending a letter to a former employee who lost everything, asking him to come work for him and the other dude saying; "I'll consider the offer after you send me half a million bucks"?

shrug

By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #6 posted 02/01/12 4:27pm

KingBAD

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PurpleJedi said:

lol

In all seriousness...this was a very interesting "insight" into the minds of people from that era.

Here you have a former slave master who tried to KILL the man leaving him turning around and writing a letter for the man to come back to work for him.

The other dude's like; "Yeah, I miss you too even if you took a shot at me, send me eleven grand and I'll think about it."

What would be the equivalent in today's society?

A former Enron executive sending a letter to a former employee who lost everything, asking him to come work for him and the other dude saying; "I'll consider the offer after you send me half a million bucks"?

shrug

reperations.

if you read, he said he was paid as much as catle (nuthin)

he said he would appreciate his back pay with INTEREST,

when plantaions were in forfeit it and all livestock (includin slaves)

and all other valubles were taken over by the banks

( chase, bank america etc.) so in modern society the equivilent is

payin the families of those who were slave. reperations

i am KING BAD!!!
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evilking
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Reply #7 posted 02/07/12 11:22am

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KingBAD said:

PurpleJedi said:

lol

In all seriousness...this was a very interesting "insight" into the minds of people from that era.

Here you have a former slave master who tried to KILL the man leaving him turning around and writing a letter for the man to come back to work for him.

The other dude's like; "Yeah, I miss you too even if you took a shot at me, send me eleven grand and I'll think about it."

What would be the equivalent in today's society?

A former Enron executive sending a letter to a former employee who lost everything, asking him to come work for him and the other dude saying; "I'll consider the offer after you send me half a million bucks"?

shrug

reperations.

if you read, he said he was paid as much as catle (nuthin)

he said he would appreciate his back pay with INTEREST,

when plantaions were in forfeit it and all livestock (includin slaves)

and all other valubles were taken over by the banks

( chase, bank america etc.) so in modern society the equivilent is

payin the families of those who were slave. reperations

Lawd, this country would be bankrupt in less than an hour. There isn't enought money in the world to pay all families of former slaves. That would probably include every African-American person in the United States!

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