Finess said:

hey brotha

i have seen Tyson up close and personal.

when he was last in the UK for his fight with Julius Francis. He moved around the ring, controlling the whole damn thang. street fighting lasts minutes, its frantic, violent and usually there is no control. Tyson doesn't hit n run, he'll come at u again and again. That's not a street fighting thats a professional.

Tyson can box, he can move, when he needs to he can even duck a punch. the boy is exremely fast, and when those punches connect, then they say hell hath no fury.

His biggest failure has been that he hasn't really show cased his skills.

He has to do the work, i don't think age is an issue, he just needs to stop relying on his name and fight good fighters to build up his skills in the ring.
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stepinrazor said:

my good friend step...you have GOT to be kidding ..

MrBliss said:

for real bro,

we talked and he was witty, articulate and very very knowledgable.

especially about boxing, the man had style, grace and charm.

and i was left a very impressed boy...



don't belive that media hype
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stepinrazor said:

you mean...the way they try to make him out to be an animal? ... like when they hold a gun to his head and say "threaten to eat Lennox's kids man...that'll fuck 'em" ...

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to brag a bit i have met and talked with:

Muhammad Ali

Joe Frazier

Sugar Ray Leonard

Marvelous Marvin Hagler

Frank Bruno

Colin Sweet C Mcmillan

Christopher Eubank

Nigel Benn

Michael Watson

Prince Naseem Hamed (who i beat up a couple of times, but i am a lot bigger than he)

Mike Tyson

Lennox Lewis

and some more mf's that i can't remember right now.
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MrBliss said:

u know that was a joke right

he and Lennox are and always were good friends

thats just pre fight hype talk

selling tickets, but i agree a bit too over the top
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IceNine said:

I'm a fan of boxing as well and from what I've read and seen of the Chris Byrd/ Holyfield fight, Evander does headbutt when things aren't going his way. Byrd even said this. It's in this month's Boxing Digest I believe.

I do like Tyson although I have to admit that he's not like he was during '85-88 where I think he was unstoppable. The "old" Mike would set up his punches with the jab, GO TO THE BODY, bob and weave through the opponent's offense and then counter, cut off the ring, you know, all around ring generalship. I HATE to say it but Mike today doesn't do these things or if he does, doesn't do them often enough.

Hell, I fight in continuous fighting in Chinese Martial Arts
tournaments and base my fight game plan on the old Mike's
style. Slip, bang to the body, set up for the head shot, Bang, then slip back out and reset. Simple and effective. Efficent. The old Mike was beautiful to watch in the ring.
Remember Trevor Berbick?
BTW, interesting you mentiioned Chris Byrd. He's a southpaw, has Mike fought any southpaws in his career? I never really thought about it.

NovaAngel said:

I cannot remember Tyson ever fighting a Southpaw... what's even worse is that Byrd is not only a Southpaw, he is SLICK. He is like a big Pernell Whitaker. Tyson does not want any part of him.

IceNine said:

Oh man, I don't think anyone in the HW division wants Byrd. It's hard as hell to fight a southpaw. They just embarass you in the ring. My instructor is southpaw so I'm used to it and I have to readjust to orthodox fighters. But still they move so slick like you said. Are all southpaws this way? Bastards.

Since we're on the boxing tip, anybody near NYC? There's a famous gym in Brooklyn but I forget the name. Gleason's? I'm thinking it's called something else. I wanna check it out. A lot of champs trained there.

stepinrazor said:

DID YOU KNOW...



... that an orger once worked for Mike Tyson's record label?

Finess said:

Absolutely. But at one time very early in his career he was doing a little more boxing and had the potential to take it further, but never did and eventually became the brawler he is. I agree with that article that someone posted about a bunch of people in Tyson's camp who can only see dollar signs and never cared about him. This has been apparent to me for YEARS.

Lewis is too big and too strong for Tyson.Lewis can pick Tyson off at will with his jab, as he did before.Tyson is incapable of changing his style now, and his lack of side to side movement will be exposed yet again, remember Lewis is a tactician, and studies his opponents better than anyone out there.

as a Brit, Lennox makes me proud, one or two more defences and then it's out i hope, he doesn't have anything to prove, he's fought and beaten everyone put in front of him, and never ducked anyone.He's been a great Champ!

LENNOX LEWIS!

The fight was a joke and another blight on heavy weight boxing.

That sucker got hit hard but he just laid there and gave up very quickly, even making the effort to remove his mouthgard whilst laying back.

What a joke. I'm glad my brother has got an illegal cable connection and i didnt have to pay to see it.

mistermaxxx said:

Your punctuation messes me up, sometimes, buddy. Are you saying Tyson is straight black, or are you saying he's straight AND he's black?