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Cerebus

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Steven Tyler to Supreme Court: Watch the language

http://news.yahoo.com/steven-tyler-supreme-court-watch-language-121712636.html

LOS ANGELES (AP) — If the U.S. Supreme Court is willing to listen, rocker Steven Tyler has something "old school" to say about nudity and profanity on broadcast TV.

"There's a certain charm and passion and magic in not showing full-frontal nudity" or using constant profanity, Tyler said, as the high court prepared to take up a First Amendment case on the regulation of the airwaves.

"It's really hot when you only show a little," he said.

Granted, the Aerosmith singer tossed off a bleeped strong expletive or two on Fox's live " American Idol" after joining it as a judge last season.

"I have (cursed on air) a couple times, because it is 2012," Tyler said. But an occasional swear word is different than a stream of them, which he suggested could happen without rules and wouldn't be something he welcomes.

"If you start surfing channel to channel and you're on NBC and it's (expletive) and channel 4 and it's (expletive) and channel 7 and it's (expletive), it wouldn't be fun to surf," he said.

Besides, he said, where's the creativity? A pun about an "American Idol" contestant's revealingly short outfit may be fun — "Here's to looking up your old address," offered Tyler — but the use of blunt language "turns it into something crass."

"Why would I say that? I would say it to show off, I think," he added.

There are pejorative terms, such as those involving race and gender, that never should be heard on TV, said Tyler. He returns to "Idol" with fellow judges Jennifer Lopez and Randy Jackson for the singing contest's 11th season, starting Jan. 18.

The Supreme Court case set to be heard Tuesday could reshape the regulation of broadcasting.

In 2010, the federal appeals court in New York threw out the Federal Communications Commission's rules affecting the hours children are likely viewers. That includes a ban on the use of even a single curse word on live TV as well as fines against broadcasters who showed a woman's nude buttocks on a 2003 episode of ABC's "NYPD Blue."

The Obama administration has objected that the appeals court stripped the FCC of its ability to police the airwaves, and the commission is appealing the ruling.

The FCC's policy against fleeting expletives was set after a January 2003 NBC broadcast of the Golden Globes awards show, in which U2 lead singer Bono uttered the phrase "f------ brilliant."

The FCC found its ban was also violated by a December 2002 broadcast of the Billboard Music Awards in which Cher used the phrase "F--- 'em" and a December 2003 Billboard awards show in which reality show star Nicole Richie said, "Have you ever tried to get cow s--- out of a Prada purse? It's not so f------ simple."

The commission's stepped-up broadcast indecency enforcement in recent years, including record fines for violations, was spurred in part by public outrage over Janet Jackson's breast-baring performance during the 2004 Super Bowl halftime show.

TV networks — including Tyler's home base, Fox — argue that the FCC's policy is vague, irregularly applied and outdated, affecting only broadcast television while leaving unregulated the same content if it's delivered on cable TV or over the Internet.

Tyler predicted Monday the Supreme Court will allow "certain words, and that's that."

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Reply #1 posted 01/11/12 2:51am

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Shut the fuck up Steven Tyler! mad It must really suck to get old and become hypocritical about everything you've done for the last 60 years. Steven Tyler giving a pro-censorship speech. Who saw that comin'? shrug

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Reply #2 posted 01/11/12 1:54pm

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Reply #3 posted 01/11/12 2:10pm

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Next thing will b Ozzy Osborne or Alice Cooper urging us all to go back to church!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin

Or Courtney Love telling us that we all have to dress modestly!!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin

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Reply #4 posted 01/11/12 2:22pm

breese

I agree with him.

When you set limits, then toeing the line a little bit is sexier. These days, limits are quickly disappearing and as a result hardly anything is titillating anymore. People don't get that, because they're dumb.

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Reply #5 posted 01/11/12 4:15pm

Ace

I think we're all missing the pertinent question here: Why the fuck are they asking Steven Tyler about this? lol

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Reply #6 posted 01/11/12 4:17pm

MachT

Cerebus said:

Shut the fuck up Steven Tyler! mad It must really suck to get old and become hypocritical about everything you've done for the last 60 years. Steven Tyler giving a pro-censorship speech. Who saw that comin'? shrug

lol

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Reply #7 posted 01/11/12 4:18pm

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Ace said:

I think we're all missing the pertinent question here: Why the fuck are they asking Steven Tyler about this? lol

lol

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Reply #8 posted 01/11/12 4:20pm

Graycap23

I don't need or want any one filtering anything 4 me.

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Reply #9 posted 01/11/12 4:23pm

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PurpleSpirit319 said:

Next thing will b Ozzy Osborne or Alice Cooper urging us all to go back to church!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin

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Reply #10 posted 01/11/12 4:24pm

Ace

Graycap23 said:

I don't need or want any one filtering anything 4 me.

yeahthat

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Reply #11 posted 01/11/12 4:28pm

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Ace said:

Graycap23 said:

I don't need or want any one filtering anything 4 me.

yeahthat

I do agree with Steven.. I don't wanna turn on the tv and hear a bunch of foul language

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Reply #12 posted 01/11/12 5:22pm

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Graycap23 said:

I don't need or want any one filtering anything 4 me.

agree. i can determine what is too effing crude for my tastes smile

[Edited 1/11/12 9:22am]

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Reply #13 posted 01/11/12 7:42pm

JoeTyler

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Next thing will be Ozzy Osbourne telling us to go back to church!!!

he has already done that, several times...

but yeah, Steven is getting old and boring

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Reply #14 posted 01/11/12 8:28pm

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I agree with him. I'm just fine with not having porn on NBC while I flip channels with my mom.

And I don't see it as hypocrisy, I can't think of any curse words or nudity in any of Aerosmith's singles/videos

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Reply #15 posted 01/11/12 8:34pm

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NDRU said:

I agree with him. I'm just fine with not having porn on NBC while I flip channels with my mom.

And I don't see it as hypocrisy, I can't think of any curse words or nudity in any of Aerosmith's singles/videos

He's lived his life openly doing whatever the hell he wants in the loudest way possible, making sure that, if they CHOOSE TO, other people can know as much about it as they like. In fact, he's made his fortune doing so. For him to stand up and say that other people shouldn't be able to make up their own mind about what they CHOOSE TO watch or listen to is complete and totaly hypocrisy.

Its all about freedom of choice, and we're losing that right far faster than most people realize. We need less regulation, not more.

Also, I'm fine with the status quo - making no changes in either direction is fine. I just find it laughable that Steven Tyler would be preaching pro-censorship regulation. Which is exactly what he's doing.

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Reply #16 posted 01/11/12 8:52pm

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Cerebus said:

NDRU said:

I agree with him. I'm just fine with not having porn on NBC while I flip channels with my mom.

And I don't see it as hypocrisy, I can't think of any curse words or nudity in any of Aerosmith's singles/videos

He's lived his life openly doing whatever the hell he wants in the loudest way possible, making sure that, if they CHOOSE TO, other people can know as much about it as they like. In fact, he's made his fortune doing so. For him to stand up and say that other people shouldn't be able to make up their own mind about what they CHOOSE TO watch or listen to is complete and totaly hypocrisy.

Its all about freedom of choice, and we're losing that right far faster than most people realize. We need less regulation, not more.

Also, I'm fine with the status quo - making no changes in either direction is fine. I just find it laughable that Steven Tyler would be preaching pro-censorship regulation. Which is exactly what he's doing.

He's not saying artists shouldn't have the freedom to do whatever they want, he's just suggesting that the public airwaves be held to standards.

If Aerosmith said "fuck" on Johnny Carson, NBC would have bleeped it. I don't see any hypocrisy.

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Reply #17 posted 01/11/12 9:11pm

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NDRU said:

Cerebus said:

He's lived his life openly doing whatever the hell he wants in the loudest way possible, making sure that, if they CHOOSE TO, other people can know as much about it as they like. In fact, he's made his fortune doing so. For him to stand up and say that other people shouldn't be able to make up their own mind about what they CHOOSE TO watch or listen to is complete and totaly hypocrisy.

Its all about freedom of choice, and we're losing that right far faster than most people realize. We need less regulation, not more.

Also, I'm fine with the status quo - making no changes in either direction is fine. I just find it laughable that Steven Tyler would be preaching pro-censorship regulation. Which is exactly what he's doing.

He's not saying artists shouldn't have the freedom to do whatever they want, he's just suggesting that the public airwaves be held to standards.

If Aerosmith said "fuck" on Johnny Carson, NBC would have bleeped it. I don't see any hypocrisy.

I understand his argument - I find it laughable (and hypocritical) that he's the one making it. That's all. Dude lived a life overflowing with excess (much of it illegal) on every front, but he doesn't want to hear a "bad word" on tv, AND thinks the government should regulate it. lol It just doesn't work for me.

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Reply #18 posted 01/11/12 9:26pm

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Reply #19 posted 01/11/12 9:29pm

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Cerebus said:

NDRU said:

He's not saying artists shouldn't have the freedom to do whatever they want, he's just suggesting that the public airwaves be held to standards.

If Aerosmith said "fuck" on Johnny Carson, NBC would have bleeped it. I don't see any hypocrisy.

I understand his argument - I find it laughable (and hypocritical) that he's the one making it. That's all. Dude lived a life overflowing with excess (much of it illegal) on every front, but he doesn't want to hear a "bad word" on tv, AND thinks the government should regulate it. lol It just doesn't work for me.

I suppose, but I don't think it's as bad as, say, Prince who is actually telling other artists what words they should not say and how sexually they should not act. That's true hypocrisy.

I don't know that Steven Tyler didn't always support clean airwaves while he acted wild in real life. He might have. Even Pat Boone had sex, just not on TV.

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Reply #20 posted 01/11/12 10:07pm

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shrug I don't know how it's a choice when the public airwaves have to be saturated with it. I guess I believe in lines that shouldn't be crossed. You wanna see it there are plenty of outlets for it in today's world, why does it have to be damned near spread out in the middle of street in order for it to be considered freedom, I don't get that part.

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Reply #21 posted 01/11/12 10:16pm

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morningsong said:

shrug I don't know how it's a choice when the public airwaves have to be saturated with it. I guess I believe in lines that shouldn't be crossed. You wanna see it there are plenty of outlets for it in today's world, why does it have to be damned near spread out in the middle of street in order for it to be considered freedom, I don't get that part.

Excellent point

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