Ottensen said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Just had to comment on some of this. Saw bits and pieces of last night's show.

As far as Lisa and Adrienne go, as far as I can tell Adrienne is still mad Lisa didn't have her daughter's engagement party or whatever at the Palms (Adrienne's hotel). I'm with Lisa on this, Adrienne needs to get over it. Lisa has no obligation to help her promote the Palms. And she defininitely didn't need to come to her hat in hand in and explain why. Especially since Lisa already had an offer and plans from a long time family friend to use his establishment for the party.

Kyle (& her sister Kim even though she wasn't there): seemed to go out of their way to start stuff and keep it going with each other and the other women. For no reason. Childish. The fact that Kyle refused to take responsibility for her part in hiding Brandi's crutches was just typical. And no Kim does not get a pass for being an alchoholic. Kyle had already spilled that tea LAST season finale.

And I agree Brandi slashing Eddie's tires after finding out he was cheating. Was a --Yeah? And? moment. Had nothing to with being classy or not. It was a matter of being pissed.

Yes to all of this.

I really used to like Kyle because of her spunkiness and take no sh** attitude in a world of plastic Beverly Hills Barbies. But this season she has shown herself to be catty and bully who poses as a kitten. Last yaer i think Camille was just as assanine, biit she took her humblimng with her head down and got a freakin' clue. Kyle and Kim have a very twisted relationship that is clearly co-dependent to the MAX and they seriously need therapy so they can break these toxic cycles that have obviously beong going on since they were kids. I guess Kathy (Hilton) was the one to say Forget all this BS, and remove herself from the picture.

Adrienne also worked my nerves too with her pettiness and ridiculous expectations. Lisa's daughter Pandora has already stated on Twitter that she planned her own bachelorette party, and thinks the bickering over it is silly. I agree. It's her day, she should be able to have her owned damed party where she wants without her mama's friends getting their knickers twisted in a bunch. Talk about about an over-inflated sense of self-importance on Adrienne's part.

Brandi has a gutterbucket mouth that I cannot stand. But I do appreciate that she won't let these witches run over her. I like spunky girls! Just could do without the explicit talk of body parts in every conversation. She has a tendency to do this in interviews as well outside of Bravo and it's just not my cup of tea. When I want to listen to a Millie Jackson record I'll put one on for myself- not interested in hearing that while you're doing press for your tv show. Oh, and them trying to villify her over slashing the motorcycle tires on learnng of Eddie's affair, appreciated how that all became a "Hmph, that's all ya got? " moment

Ottensen said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Just had to comment on some of this. Saw bits and pieces of last night's show.

As far as Lisa and Adrienne go, as far as I can tell Adrienne is still mad Lisa didn't have her daughter's engagement party or whatever at the Palms (Adrienne's hotel). I'm with Lisa on this, Adrienne needs to get over it. Lisa has no obligation to help her promote the Palms. And she defininitely didn't need to come to her hat in hand in and explain why. Especially since Lisa already had an offer and plans from a long time family friend to use his establishment for the party.

Kyle (& her sister Kim even though she wasn't there): seemed to go out of their way to start stuff and keep it going with each other and the other women. For no reason. Childish. The fact that Kyle refused to take responsibility for her part in hiding Brandi's crutches was just typical. And no Kim does not get a pass for being an alchoholic. Kyle had already spilled that tea LAST season finale.

And I agree Brandi slashing Eddie's tires after finding out he was cheating. Was a --Yeah? And? moment. Had nothing to with being classy or not. It was a matter of being pissed.

Yes to all of this.

I really used to like Kyle because of her spunkiness and take no sh** attitude in a world of plastic Beverly Hills Barbies. But this season she has shown herself to be catty and bully who poses as a kitten. Last yaer i think Camille was just as assanine, biit she took her humblimng with her head down and got a freakin' clue. Kyle and Kim have a very twisted relationship that is clearly co-dependent to the MAX and they seriously need therapy so they can break these toxic cycles that have obviously beong going on since they were kids. I guess Kathy (Hilton) was the one to say Forget all this BS, and remove herself from the picture.

Adrienne also worked my nerves too with her pettiness and ridiculous expectations. Lisa's daughter Pandora has already stated on Twitter that she planned her own bachelorette party, and thinks the bickering over it is silly. I agree. It's her day, she should be able to have her owned damed party where she wants without her mama's friends getting their knickers twisted in a bunch. Talk about about an over-inflated sense of self-importance on Adrienne's part.

Brandi has a gutterbucket mouth that I cannot stand. But I do appreciate that she won't let these witches run over her. I like spunky girls! Just could do without the explicit talk of body parts in every conversation. She has a tendency to do this in interviews as well outside of Bravo and it's just not my cup of tea. When I want to listen to a Millie Jackson record I'll put one on for myself- not interested in hearing that while you're doing press for your tv show. Oh, and them trying to villify her over slashing the motorcycle tires on learnng of Eddie's affair, appreciated how that all became a "Hmph, that's all ya got? " moment

Who is Kathy Hilton? I know Kyle and Kim are related to them (the Hilton's) in some way but was she (Kathy) a part of the BH wives circle at some point?

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Ottensen said:

Yes to all of this.

I really used to like Kyle because of her spunkiness and take no sh** attitude in a world of plastic Beverly Hills Barbies. But this season she has shown herself to be catty and bully who poses as a kitten. Last yaer i think Camille was just as assanine, biit she took her humblimng with her head down and got a freakin' clue. Kyle and Kim have a very twisted relationship that is clearly co-dependent to the MAX and they seriously need therapy so they can break these toxic cycles that have obviously beong going on since they were kids. I guess Kathy (Hilton) was the one to say Forget all this BS, and remove herself from the picture.

Adrienne also worked my nerves too with her pettiness and ridiculous expectations. Lisa's daughter Pandora has already stated on Twitter that she planned her own bachelorette party, and thinks the bickering over it is silly. I agree. It's her day, she should be able to have her owned damed party where she wants without her mama's friends getting their knickers twisted in a bunch. Talk about about an over-inflated sense of self-importance on Adrienne's part.

Brandi has a gutterbucket mouth that I cannot stand. But I do appreciate that she won't let these witches run over her. I like spunky girls! Just could do without the explicit talk of body parts in every conversation. She has a tendency to do this in interviews as well outside of Bravo and it's just not my cup of tea. When I want to listen to a Millie Jackson record I'll put one on for myself- not interested in hearing that while you're doing press for your tv show. Oh, and them trying to villify her over slashing the motorcycle tires on learnng of Eddie's affair, appreciated how that all became a "Hmph, that's all ya got? " moment

Who is Kathy Hilton? I know Kyle and Kim are related to them (the Hilton's) in some way but was she (Kathy) a part of the BH wives circle at some point?

No Kathy Hilton was never a part of the show. Kathy is Kyle and Kim's sister.

I like Kyle, despite (or maybe because) she's a control freak about the people in her life and she definitely is a mean girl. I think she feels crappy about outing Kim's drinking problem in public so she's over compensating by pretending there's not problem. Camille is very smart, she plays her role well.