This young man is brave. Pass this video around and show him some love. It is much harder than you may think, growing up in a world like this. Just being yourself can seem like a disease.

Let's let him know he is o.k. and things are going to get better.

I do love him. I hope he can hang in there and stay strong. There's a whole world outside of his school waiting to love and accept him.

This is truly one of the saddest things I've seen in my life. I hope he gets through the hurt and pain. Hopefully those around him are giving him the right type of support to keep him strong and to help him process all that is happening inside and outside of him.

His first attempt at suicinde was in the SECOND GRADE?!?!?!?!?

I hope his parents are getting him the help he needs.

It's much less depressing without the music on. Still sad though.

Oh, geez. That was heartbreaking. I hope he can get through his pain and get some help.

Seriously?! Responses to shit like this changes my opinion of people real quick.

Get off the internet and talk to someone. Anyone. And I mean ANYONE who is a real live breathing person. If you are going to claim that you have the ability to make a video and post in online, but still have ABSOLUTELY NO ONE to talk to, then contact support groups and organizations ONLINE. There's literally thousands of them. Stop looking for validation, support and "love" from a bunch of anonymous internet users that you will NEVER know. "I'm scared." Waaa! Who wasn't, or isn't? This shit is LIFE. Learn how to live it or get out of the way. Unapologetically, I have ZERO sympathy for this nonsense.

Also, does this child not have any guardians? Parents? Family? Teachers? Doesn't he have a police station in his town? A hospital? For fuck's sake. He puts this shit online and people feel sorry for him? I just don't get it. If he has the mental acuity to write all that, film it and post it online he should certainly be able to seek out some REAL help.

Lastly, "Oh Cerebus! How can you be such a heartless asshole? Maybe he's not comfortable talking to other people. Maybe he's scared to seek help so he posts this online to feel better about himself." Yeah, that's the problem, right there. The internet is destroying human beings already tenuous ability to openly and truthfully communicate with one another. Again, I think this video is bullshit. Wrong on so many levels.

Cerebus said:

Seriously?! Responses to shit like this changes my opinion of people real quick.

Get off the internet and talk to someone. Anyone. And I mean ANYONE who is a real live breathing person. If you are going to claim that you have the ability to make a video and post in online, but still have ABSOLUTELY NO ONE to talk to, then contact support groups and organizations ONLINE. There's literally thousands of them. Stop looking for validation, support and "love" from a bunch of anonymous internet users that you will NEVER know. "I'm scared." Waaa! Who wasn't, or isn't? This shit is LIFE. Learn how to live it or get out of the way. Unapologetically, I have ZERO sympathy for this nonsense.

Also, does this child not have any guardians? Parents? Family? Teachers? Doesn't he have a police station in his town? A hospital? For fuck's sake. He puts this shit online and people feel sorry for him? I just don't get it. If he has the mental acuity to write all that, film it and post it online he should certainly be able to seek out some REAL help.

Lastly, "Oh Cerebus! How can you be such a heartless asshole? Maybe he's not comfortable talking to other people. Maybe he's scared to seek help so he posts this online to feel better about himself." Yeah, that's the problem, right there. The internet is destroying human beings already tenuous ability to openly and truthfully communicate with one another. Again, I think this video is bullshit. Wrong on so many levels.

Oh, Cerebus, indeed.

Have you ever felt the way this boy feels? Most of us haven't, because this is not normal sadness.

I don't think you're a bad person for not feeling sympathy, or for honestly admitting that you "don't get it."

But I'm sure you understand that clinical depression in response to real trauma is unrelated to mental acuity?

And that there are areas of our country where it is in fact possible for a child to grow up with absolutely no identifiable compassionate adults whom they can feel emotionally safe speaking to? A child who cuts his body and attempts suicide isn't experiencing the normal range of life being rough. He has a psychological illness. I'm glad he reached out, in whatever way seemed possible to him.

I think you might be conflating your feelings on the Internet and the soullessness and disconnect of our digitized society, with your feelings on this boy and his choice to make the video. I could very well be wrong. And I'm not even sure I used "conflating" correctly.

PunkMistress said:

Cerebus said:

Seriously?! Responses to shit like this changes my opinion of people real quick.

Get off the internet and talk to someone. Anyone. And I mean ANYONE who is a real live breathing person. If you are going to claim that you have the ability to make a video and post in online, but still have ABSOLUTELY NO ONE to talk to, then contact support groups and organizations ONLINE. There's literally thousands of them. Stop looking for validation, support and "love" from a bunch of anonymous internet users that you will NEVER know. "I'm scared." Waaa! Who wasn't, or isn't? This shit is LIFE. Learn how to live it or get out of the way. Unapologetically, I have ZERO sympathy for this nonsense.

Also, does this child not have any guardians? Parents? Family? Teachers? Doesn't he have a police station in his town? A hospital? For fuck's sake. He puts this shit online and people feel sorry for him? I just don't get it. If he has the mental acuity to write all that, film it and post it online he should certainly be able to seek out some REAL help.

Lastly, "Oh Cerebus! How can you be such a heartless asshole? Maybe he's not comfortable talking to other people. Maybe he's scared to seek help so he posts this online to feel better about himself." Yeah, that's the problem, right there. The internet is destroying human beings already tenuous ability to openly and truthfully communicate with one another. Again, I think this video is bullshit. Wrong on so many levels.

Oh, Cerebus, indeed.

Have you ever felt the way this boy feels? Most of us haven't, because this is not normal sadness.

I don't think you're a bad person for not feeling sympathy, or for honestly admitting that you "don't get it."

But I'm sure you understand that clinical depression in response to real trauma is unrelated to mental acuity?

And that there are areas of our country where it is in fact possible for a child to grow up with absolutely no identifiable compassionate adults whom they can feel emotionally safe speaking to? A child who cuts his body and attempts suicide isn't experiencing the normal range of life being rough. He has a psychological illness. I'm glad he reached out, in whatever way seemed possible to him.

I think you might be conflating your feelings on the Internet and the soullessness and disconnect of our digitized society, with your feelings on this boy and his choice to make the video. I could very well be wrong. And I'm not even sure I used "conflating" correctly.

Short answer...

I feel compassion for him or anyone else who may have those feelings, or who has dealt with those issues (I dealt with many of them myself, some quite severe). But I believe with every ounce of my being that way he's going about solving the problem is bullshit. As I already explained, even if the kid lives with evil foster parents, has no contact with other adults and ZERO friends, he could still have sought real help in the time it took him to make and post this video. The fact that he has the ability to write those words leads me to believe that he has enough intelligence to know that. He simply wants an internet hug. Blech. Bullshit.

Edit: Thoughts bled together

[Edited 12/6/11 12:19pm]

Thank you for understanding me at least a little bit and responding with real thoughts instead of just calling me a bunch of names.

One more thing; "reaching out" to the internet does NOTHING to solve his problems in the real world. That's my point in a nutshell.

Cerebus said:

Seriously?! Responses to shit like this changes my opinion of people real quick.

Get off the internet and talk to someone. Anyone. And I mean ANYONE who is a real live breathing person. If you are going to claim that you have the ability to make a video and post in online, but still have ABSOLUTELY NO ONE to talk to, then contact support groups and organizations ONLINE. There's literally thousands of them. Stop looking for validation, support and "love" from a bunch of anonymous internet users that you will NEVER know. "I'm scared." Waaa! Who wasn't, or isn't? This shit is LIFE. Learn how to live it or get out of the way. Unapologetically, I have ZERO sympathy for this nonsense.

Also, does this child not have any guardians? Parents? Family? Teachers? Doesn't he have a police station in his town? A hospital? For fuck's sake. He puts this shit online and people feel sorry for him? I just don't get it. If he has the mental acuity to write all that, film it and post it online he should certainly be able to seek out some REAL help.

Lastly, "Oh Cerebus! How can you be such a heartless asshole? Maybe he's not comfortable talking to other people. Maybe he's scared to seek help so he posts this online to feel better about himself." Yeah, that's the problem, right there. The internet is destroying human beings already tenuous ability to openly and truthfully communicate with one another. Again, I think this video is bullshit. Wrong on so many levels.

You don't know the real story. I was thinking the same about him writing all these cards and filming hit, but still....maybe it is really a cry for help. He looks like a minor too me. What do you expect? He goes to a policestation to say he gets bullied???

It's too easy to say, seek help than....if he could, he probably would have. Maybe he really doesn't know where to go and what to do. Loneliness can do that to a person.

At the end, we don't know anything about him...don't judge.

robertlove said:

Cerebus said:

Seriously?! Responses to shit like this changes my opinion of people real quick.

Get off the internet and talk to someone. Anyone. And I mean ANYONE who is a real live breathing person. If you are going to claim that you have the ability to make a video and post in online, but still have ABSOLUTELY NO ONE to talk to, then contact support groups and organizations ONLINE. There's literally thousands of them. Stop looking for validation, support and "love" from a bunch of anonymous internet users that you will NEVER know. "I'm scared." Waaa! Who wasn't, or isn't? This shit is LIFE. Learn how to live it or get out of the way. Unapologetically, I have ZERO sympathy for this nonsense.

Also, does this child not have any guardians? Parents? Family? Teachers? Doesn't he have a police station in his town? A hospital? For fuck's sake. He puts this shit online and people feel sorry for him? I just don't get it. If he has the mental acuity to write all that, film it and post it online he should certainly be able to seek out some REAL help.

Lastly, "Oh Cerebus! How can you be such a heartless asshole? Maybe he's not comfortable talking to other people. Maybe he's scared to seek help so he posts this online to feel better about himself." Yeah, that's the problem, right there. The internet is destroying human beings already tenuous ability to openly and truthfully communicate with one another. Again, I think this video is bullshit. Wrong on so many levels.

You don't know the real story. I was thinking the same about him writing all these cards and filming hit, but still....maybe it is really a cry for help. He looks like a minor too me. What do you expect? He goes to a policestation to say he gets bullied???

It's too easy to say, seek help than....if he could, he probably would have. Maybe he really doesn't know where to go and what to do. Loneliness can do that to a person.

At the end, we don't know anything about him...don't judge.

First of all, putting something like that online is asking to be judged. Period. Understanding that would be a big help to the kid.

Second, we don't know anything about him? Really? So then everything he wrote in that video is "nothing"?

Also, yes! Go to the police. Go to a fire station. Go to a hospital. Go to a teacher, or a school counselor. Go to the parent of your one friend. Go to your own parents or family, which should be happening first and that's the ONLY part that really makes no sense. Where they hell are they and what are they doing about it. Regardless, ALL those other places/people could help the kid by directing him to a real life, online or telephone counselor or support group. They all exist in abundance. That would be the least they could do. If they actually gave a shit they could get the ball rolling in regards to looking into his home life.

And again, its CLEAR the kid knows he has problems and that he's not stupid. I'm not buying this "oh I'll make a video so people will say nice things about me" as being any kind of positive step towards getting help. Its ether. Its 100% intangible. It does absolutely NOTHING when it comes to FIXING all of the issues he wrote about. Internet comments don't stop bullying, depression, cutting, etc.

Cerebus said:

Thank you for understanding me at least a little bit and responding with real thoughts instead of just calling me a bunch of names.

I try to be reasonable.

Sometimes.

Cerebus said:

robertlove said:

You don't know the real story. I was thinking the same about him writing all these cards and filming hit, but still....maybe it is really a cry for help. He looks like a minor too me. What do you expect? He goes to a policestation to say he gets bullied???

It's too easy to say, seek help than....if he could, he probably would have. Maybe he really doesn't know where to go and what to do. Loneliness can do that to a person.

At the end, we don't know anything about him...don't judge.

First of all, putting something like that online is asking to be judged. Period. Understanding that would be a big help to the kid.

Second, we don't know anything about him? Really? So then everything he wrote in that video is "nothing"?

Also, yes! Go to the police. Go to a fire station. Go to a hospital. Go to a teacher, or a school counselor. Go to the parent of your one friend. Go to your own parents or family, which should be happening first and that's the ONLY part that really makes no sense. Where they hell are they and what are they doing about it. Regardless, ALL those other places/people could help the kid by directing him to a real life, online or telephone counselor or support group. They all exist in abundance. That would be the least they could do. If they actually gave a shit they could get the ball rolling in regards to looking into his home life.

And again, its CLEAR the kid knows he has problems and that he's not stupid. I'm not buying this "oh I'll make a video so people will say nice things about me" as being any kind of positive step towards getting help. Its ether. Its 100% intangible. It does absolutely NOTHING when it comes to FIXING all of the issues he wrote about. Internet comments don't stop bullying, depression, cutting, etc.

I'm not saying his video makes sense or will fix his problems, just saying it could be a cry for help. And yes, maybe he wants attention. But so what?? Isn't cutting yourself also a cry for help and attention?

And again, it's really not that easy to seek help for everybody. Maybe you would make the right steps, but apperenty he doesn't. We're not all the same. There are kids committing suicide over this. You really think that's what they want? No, but in their mind it's the only way out.

By the way, I think these internet videos make a great impact on people and yes, it will help stop bullying, in stead of keeping it in the dark.....

Cerebus said:

Seriously?! Responses to shit like this changes my opinion of people real quick.

Get off the internet and talk to someone. Anyone. And I mean ANYONE who is a real live breathing person. If you are going to claim that you have the ability to make a video and post in online, but still have ABSOLUTELY NO ONE to talk to, then contact support groups and organizations ONLINE. There's literally thousands of them. Stop looking for validation, support and "love" from a bunch of anonymous internet users that you will NEVER know. "I'm scared." Waaa! Who wasn't, or isn't? This shit is LIFE. Learn how to live it or get out of the way. Unapologetically, I have ZERO sympathy for this nonsense.

Also, does this child not have any guardians? Parents? Family? Teachers? Doesn't he have a police station in his town? A hospital? For fuck's sake. He puts this shit online and people feel sorry for him? I just don't get it. If he has the mental acuity to write all that, film it and post it online he should certainly be able to seek out some REAL help.

Lastly, "Oh Cerebus! How can you be such a heartless asshole? Maybe he's not comfortable talking to other people. Maybe he's scared to seek help so he posts this online to feel better about himself." Yeah, that's the problem, right there. The internet is destroying human beings already tenuous ability to openly and truthfully communicate with one another. Again, I think this video is bullshit. Wrong on so many levels.

I think you need to step away from the Internet

Cerebus said:

PunkMistress said:

Oh, Cerebus, indeed.

Have you ever felt the way this boy feels? Most of us haven't, because this is not normal sadness.

I don't think you're a bad person for not feeling sympathy, or for honestly admitting that you "don't get it."

But I'm sure you understand that clinical depression in response to real trauma is unrelated to mental acuity?

And that there are areas of our country where it is in fact possible for a child to grow up with absolutely no identifiable compassionate adults whom they can feel emotionally safe speaking to? A child who cuts his body and attempts suicide isn't experiencing the normal range of life being rough. He has a psychological illness. I'm glad he reached out, in whatever way seemed possible to him.

I think you might be conflating your feelings on the Internet and the soullessness and disconnect of our digitized society, with your feelings on this boy and his choice to make the video. I could very well be wrong. And I'm not even sure I used "conflating" correctly.

Short answer...

I feel compassion for him or anyone else who may have those feelings, or who has dealt with those issues (I dealt with many of them myself, some quite severe). But I believe with every ounce of my being that way he's going about solving the problem is bullshit. As I already explained, even if the kid lives with evil foster parents, has no contact with other adults and ZERO friends, he could still have sought real help in the time it took him to make and post this video. The fact that he has the ability to write those words leads me to believe that he has enough intelligence to know that. He simply wants an internet hug. Blech. Bullshit.

Edit: Thoughts bled together

[Edited 12/6/11 12:19pm]

Had he not posted, there would be one less conversation about this wicked curse on our society. Glad the video was made.

Cerebus said:

robertlove said:

You don't know the real story. I was thinking the same about him writing all these cards and filming hit, but still....maybe it is really a cry for help. He looks like a minor too me. What do you expect? He goes to a policestation to say he gets bullied???

It's too easy to say, seek help than....if he could, he probably would have. Maybe he really doesn't know where to go and what to do. Loneliness can do that to a person.

At the end, we don't know anything about him...don't judge.

First of all, putting something like that online is asking to be judged. Period. Understanding that would be a big help to the kid.

Second, we don't know anything about him? Really? So then everything he wrote in that video is "nothing"?

Also, yes! Go to the police. Go to a fire station. Go to a hospital. Go to a teacher, or a school counselor. Go to the parent of your one friend. Go to your own parents or family, which should be happening first and that's the ONLY part that really makes no sense. Where they hell are they and what are they doing about it. Regardless, ALL those other places/people could help the kid by directing him to a real life, online or telephone counselor or support group. They all exist in abundance. That would be the least they could do. If they actually gave a shit they could get the ball rolling in regards to looking into his home life.

And again, its CLEAR the kid knows he has problems and that he's not stupid. I'm not buying this "oh I'll make a video so people will say nice things about me" as being any kind of positive step towards getting help. Its ether. Its 100% intangible. It does absolutely NOTHING when it comes to FIXING all of the issues he wrote about. Internet comments don't stop bullying, depression, cutting, etc.

I've experienced real relief, comfort and perspective from words written to me on the Internet during seriously trying times. It helped me shift my mindstate into a more self-loving and goal-focused one.

The kid seems to be fine now. He posted a 2nd video which he deleted when people started accusing him of faking the whole thing on the first video:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

For many kids in this country, the internet is the only outlet where they can find acceptance. Until they are old enough to move away from their godforsaken hometowns, the internet may be the only place where they can see a glimmer of hope.

I am thankful I survived my childhood. I was taunted, bullied and teased mercilessly. It began in the first grade and did not let up til I left highschool. In many ways, life was a nightmare and I invited death daily. Had I not been afraid to die, I would have killed myself long ago.

I am so glad this issue is finally seeing the light and that it is becoming socially unacceptable to let this happen. "Kids will be kids". Fine. Doesn't mean we don't TEACH THEM. Kids being kids is often just mirroring the behavior they are exposed to as adults.