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Reply #60 posted 02/20/03 1:23pm

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ChocolateInvasion said:

minneapolisgenius said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

I've only lived in Holland, but I want to give you some reasons why you want and don't want to live there:

Want:
- It's clean. I've seen a lot of countries during holidays and it always makes me aware of how clean it is here.
- everything you want is here. Holland is a rich country, so luxury is a big here, because we can afford it.
- Nature is beautiful. There are no big woods or something like that, but I find that Holland has a great country-side.
- There are a few things certain: It will rain, you will end up in traffic jam.
- We have candy called 'drop'.
- Soft-drugs are legal.

Don't want:
- There are a few things certain: It will rain, you will end up in traffic jam.
- In summer, people will speak to you in german if you're in a 10 km radius of the beach.
- Especially in cities, dutch people aren't the most friendly persons.
- Most people drive an Opel Astra or Ford Focus


I agree with you on most of your points except one: I do not think that Holland is clean at all! In fact, I've never seen so much trash and poop anywhere! But everything else you mentioned is true.
lol Oh wait! Drop?! ill


I really do think it's a clean little country. There isn't too much trash on the streets. I hardly ever see dog-poop.
And not just the visible cleanness, also the less visible ones like not being allowed to smoke in a lot of public places. I really like that.


omfg You hardly ever see trash and poop!? But wait, do you drive everywhere? Because I walk, bike, and take public transport (I don't drive) so I notice things because I'm going at a much slower pace. In fact, I was just taking a walk today, and I just wanted to get one of those pointy-stick things that pick up trash, and just go to work. Maybe I will someday. I always notice things like that, and I notice it getting worse. But that could also be because it's still winter and people aren't outside as much, and don't want to be cleaning up their neighborhoods in the cold.
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Reply #61 posted 02/20/03 1:26pm

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Whenever I get done with my education, I'm blowing this country. There are better places out there, and I must see them, and experience them. Alex is partial to the estados unidos, but says he'd leave. Insert shovel jokes here. evil
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Reply #62 posted 02/20/03 1:46pm

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Moonbeam said:


However, I seriously considered applying for a Fulbright Scholarship in Chile after graduation. I don't have any qualms about moving out of the country. Australia sounds awfully nice...

wink

Hey Moonbeam is coming to Australia. Me, bkw and MrBliss can take you out on the town and show you our favorite spots. We'll promise Diva that we won't hurt you though. innocent evillol
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Reply #63 posted 02/20/03 1:51pm

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althom said:

Moonbeam said:


However, I seriously considered applying for a Fulbright Scholarship in Chile after graduation. I don't have any qualms about moving out of the country. Australia sounds awfully nice...

wink

Hey Moonbeam is coming to Australia. Me, bkw and MrBliss can take you out on the town and show you our favorite spots. We'll promise Diva that we won't hurt you though. innocent evillol


Don't do it, Moonbeam!!! althom is a lush, and is not to be trusted!!!

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Reply #64 posted 02/20/03 1:56pm

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I live in Australia.

I once lived in the US for 8 months and I have visited there 8 times.

America has some great things about it, and Canada is nice, too (Canadians are quite similar to Aussies) but I like it better here, overall.

Does that answer your question?
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Reply #65 posted 02/20/03 1:57pm

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LaVisHh said:

althom said:

Moonbeam said:


However, I seriously considered applying for a Fulbright Scholarship in Chile after graduation. I don't have any qualms about moving out of the country. Australia sounds awfully nice...

wink

Hey Moonbeam is coming to Australia. Me, bkw and MrBliss can take you out on the town and show you our favorite spots. We'll promise Diva that we won't hurt you though. innocent evillol


Don't do it, Moonbeam!!! althom is a lush, and is not to be trusted!!!

razz

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Reply #66 posted 02/20/03 2:00pm

LaVisHh

mrdespues said:

I live in Australia.

I once lived in the US for 8 months and I have visited there 8 times.

America has some great things about it, and Canada is nice, too (Canadians are quite similar to Aussies) but I like it better here, overall.

Does that answer your question?


Sorta. biggrin
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Reply #67 posted 02/20/03 3:01pm

mrdespues

LaVisHh said:

mrdespues said:

I live in Australia.

I once lived in the US for 8 months and I have visited there 8 times.

America has some great things about it, and Canada is nice, too (Canadians are quite similar to Aussies) but I like it better here, overall.

Does that answer your question?


Sorta. biggrin


Well Australia came first in an official poll of "happiest nations" a little while ago. We are generally a friendly, honest people. It's clean here, too...everything you could want is here. Good weather, beaches, living conditions. And it's not anything like "Mad Max" except out in the desert, which is hundreds to thousands of kilometres away from where most people live. It's the second most multicultural nation per capita after the US, and we have quite an egalitarian attitude here...there aren't really any racial ghettos or crime problems that pop up in other nations...crime is minimal in comparison. It is one of the world's "safe havens", quite removed from the troubles of the world in many ways. My girlfriend, an American, loves it here and she'd like to move here, the only problem is her family lives so far away.

I like to go on about about my country, don't I? wink
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Reply #68 posted 02/20/03 3:09pm

LaVisHh

mrdespues said:

LaVisHh said:

mrdespues said:

I live in Australia.

I once lived in the US for 8 months and I have visited there 8 times.

America has some great things about it, and Canada is nice, too (Canadians are quite similar to Aussies) but I like it better here, overall.

Does that answer your question?


Sorta. biggrin


Well Australia came first in an official poll of "happiest nations" a little while ago. We are generally a friendly, honest people. It's clean here, too...everything you could want is here. Good weather, beaches, living conditions. And it's not anything like "Mad Max" except out in the desert, which is hundreds to thousands of kilometres away from where most people live. It's the second most multicultural nation per capita after the US, and we have quite an egalitarian attitude here...there aren't really any racial ghettos or crime problems that pop up in other nations...crime is minimal in comparison. It is one of the world's "safe havens", quite removed from the troubles of the world in many ways. My girlfriend, an American, loves it here and she'd like to move here, the only problem is her family lives so far away.

I like to go on about about my country, don't I? wink


No...this information is very good. My sister visited New South Wales a looong time ago, and she loved Australia.

I like long explanations, as they explain the most. lol
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Reply #69 posted 02/20/03 3:18pm

mrdespues

LaVisHh said:

mrdespues said:

LaVisHh said:

mrdespues said:

I live in Australia.

I once lived in the US for 8 months and I have visited there 8 times.

America has some great things about it, and Canada is nice, too (Canadians are quite similar to Aussies) but I like it better here, overall.

Does that answer your question?


Sorta. biggrin


Well Australia came first in an official poll of "happiest nations" a little while ago. We are generally a friendly, honest people. It's clean here, too...everything you could want is here. Good weather, beaches, living conditions. And it's not anything like "Mad Max" except out in the desert, which is hundreds to thousands of kilometres away from where most people live. It's the second most multicultural nation per capita after the US, and we have quite an egalitarian attitude here...there aren't really any racial ghettos or crime problems that pop up in other nations...crime is minimal in comparison. It is one of the world's "safe havens", quite removed from the troubles of the world in many ways. My girlfriend, an American, loves it here and she'd like to move here, the only problem is her family lives so far away.

I like to go on about about my country, don't I? wink


No...this information is very good. My sister visited New South Wales a looong time ago, and she loved Australia.

I like long explanations, as they explain the most. lol


cool. smile
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Reply #70 posted 02/20/03 3:56pm

DORA

AUSTRALIA

i know a few people from the states that have moved out there and loved it. Much more laid back and politically progressive. It is BEAUTIFUL and dont forget the accent

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Reply #71 posted 02/20/03 4:01pm

mrdespues

yeah, australia is great! it's easy to forget how lucky we are, sometimes.

beer

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[This message was edited Thu Feb 20 16:02:28 PST 2003 by mrdespues]
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Reply #72 posted 02/20/03 4:03pm

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mrdespues said:

yeah, australia is great! it's easy to forget how lucky we are, sometimes.

beer

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[This message was edited Thu Feb 20 16:02:28 PST 2003 by mrdespues]


My ear really itches...

Anyway, I was going to study abroad in Australia over the summer, until I found out the YFU program to Australia licked monkey nuts...17 days for $5k? I think not. rolleyes
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Reply #73 posted 02/20/03 4:04pm

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Yeah Australia beer
LaVisHh, come to Australia.
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Reply #74 posted 02/20/03 4:05pm

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BattierBeMyDaddy said:


My ear really itches...

Anyway, I was going to study abroad in Australia over the summer, until I found out the YFU program to Australia licked monkey nuts...17 days for $5k? I think not. rolleyes

You could have stayed at bkw's house and mine, over the summer.
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Reply #75 posted 02/20/03 4:08pm

mrdespues

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

mrdespues said:

yeah, australia is great! it's easy to forget how lucky we are, sometimes.

beer

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[This message was edited Thu Feb 20 16:02:28 PST 2003 by mrdespues]


My ear really itches...

Anyway, I was going to study abroad in Australia over the summer, until I found out the YFU program to Australia licked monkey nuts...17 days for $5k? I think not. rolleyes


my girlie is beginning her study abroad program here in sydney in a few weeks (she arrives here next weekend)...yes it is VERY expensive, but it's worth it for us so we can study in the same country for a year and be together, etc...
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Reply #76 posted 02/20/03 4:11pm

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mrdespues said:

my girlie is beginning her study abroad program here in sydney in a few weeks (she arrives here next weekend)...yes it is VERY expensive, but it's worth it for us so we can study in the same country for a year and be together, etc...


smile Isn't that sweet! I've opted instead to wait until next year, and try to get into a semester program in Ecuador. smile
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Reply #77 posted 02/20/03 4:13pm

mrdespues

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mrdespues said:

my girlie is beginning her study abroad program here in sydney in a few weeks (she arrives here next weekend)...yes it is VERY expensive, but it's worth it for us so we can study in the same country for a year and be together, etc...


smile Isn't that sweet! I've opted instead to wait until next year, and try to get into a semester program in Ecuador. smile


It is VERY sweet. smile Why Ecuador? Or am I gullible as all fuck?

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Reply #78 posted 02/20/03 4:17pm

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mrdespues said:

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

mrdespues said:

my girlie is beginning her study abroad program here in sydney in a few weeks (she arrives here next weekend)...yes it is VERY expensive, but it's worth it for us so we can study in the same country for a year and be together, etc...


smile Isn't that sweet! I've opted instead to wait until next year, and try to get into a semester program in Ecuador. smile


It is VERY sweet. smile Why Ecuador? Or am I gullible as all fuck?

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[This message was edited Thu Feb 20 16:13:55 PST 2003 by mrdespues]


1. I speak Spanish..well, at the low apprentice level. smile
2. The things I can do while I'm there include an 8 day journey at the Galapagos Islands.
3. I could take a 3 day journey into the rainforest.
4. I'd be staying in Quito...
5. The cultural aspects are beneficial...The places I could go...
6. It's cheap for the amount of things I could do.
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Reply #79 posted 02/20/03 4:20pm

mrdespues

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

mrdespues said:

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

mrdespues said:

my girlie is beginning her study abroad program here in sydney in a few weeks (she arrives here next weekend)...yes it is VERY expensive, but it's worth it for us so we can study in the same country for a year and be together, etc...


smile Isn't that sweet! I've opted instead to wait until next year, and try to get into a semester program in Ecuador. smile


It is VERY sweet. smile Why Ecuador? Or am I gullible as all fuck?

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[This message was edited Thu Feb 20 16:13:55 PST 2003 by mrdespues]


1. I speak Spanish..well, at the low apprentice level. smile
2. The things I can do while I'm there include an 8 day journey at the Galapagos Islands.
3. I could take a 3 day journey into the rainforest.
4. I'd be staying in Quito...
5. The cultural aspects are beneficial...The places I could go...
6. It's cheap for the amount of things I could do.


cool! sounds excellent! i am all for travel and new cultural experiences, especially for americans...heheh wink
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Reply #80 posted 02/20/03 4:24pm

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mrdespues said:

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

mrdespues said:

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

mrdespues said:

my girlie is beginning her study abroad program here in sydney in a few weeks (she arrives here next weekend)...yes it is VERY expensive, but it's worth it for us so we can study in the same country for a year and be together, etc...


smile Isn't that sweet! I've opted instead to wait until next year, and try to get into a semester program in Ecuador. smile


It is VERY sweet. smile Why Ecuador? Or am I gullible as all fuck?

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[This message was edited Thu Feb 20 16:13:55 PST 2003 by mrdespues]


1. I speak Spanish..well, at the low apprentice level. smile
2. The things I can do while I'm there include an 8 day journey at the Galapagos Islands.
3. I could take a 3 day journey into the rainforest.
4. I'd be staying in Quito...
5. The cultural aspects are beneficial...The places I could go...
6. It's cheap for the amount of things I could do.


cool! sounds excellent! i am all for travel and new cultural experiences, especially for americans...heheh wink


Heh heh. So am I, Aussie. So am I.
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Reply #81 posted 02/20/03 5:46pm

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BattierBeMyDaddy said:

mrdespues said:

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

mrdespues said:

BattierBeMyDaddy said:

mrdespues said:

my girlie is beginning her study abroad program here in sydney in a few weeks (she arrives here next weekend)...yes it is VERY expensive, but it's worth it for us so we can study in the same country for a year and be together, etc...


smile Isn't that sweet! I've opted instead to wait until next year, and try to get into a semester program in Ecuador. smile


It is VERY sweet. smile Why Ecuador? Or am I gullible as all fuck?

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[This message was edited Thu Feb 20 16:13:55 PST 2003 by mrdespues]


1. I speak Spanish..well, at the low apprentice level. smile
2. The things I can do while I'm there include an 8 day journey at the Galapagos Islands.
3. I could take a 3 day journey into the rainforest.
4. I'd be staying in Quito...
5. The cultural aspects are beneficial...The places I could go...
6. It's cheap for the amount of things I could do.


cool! sounds excellent! i am all for travel and new cultural experiences, especially for americans...heheh wink


Heh heh. So am I, Aussie. So am I.



Have been waiting for you to come around.
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Reply #82 posted 02/20/03 9:24pm

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althom said:

Moonbeam said:


However, I seriously considered applying for a Fulbright Scholarship in Chile after graduation. I don't have any qualms about moving out of the country. Australia sounds awfully nice...

wink

Hey Moonbeam is coming to Australia. Me, bkw and MrBliss can take you out on the town and show you our favorite spots. We'll promise Diva that we won't hurt you though. innocent evillol

he heh

we promise! biggrin
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Reply #83 posted 02/20/03 9:26pm

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althom said:

BattierBeMyDaddy said:


My ear really itches...

Anyway, I was going to study abroad in Australia over the summer, until I found out the YFU program to Australia licked monkey nuts...17 days for $5k? I think not. rolleyes

You could have stayed at bkw's house and mine, over the summer.

nod

althom, how do we break this to our better halves? wink
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Reply #84 posted 02/20/03 9:36pm

SuperC

If my children were older i would give it serious thought.
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Reply #85 posted 02/20/03 10:03pm

july

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'Moving Away From The United States'

I thought about moving to the UK or Australia during the late 90's and upon visiting both of those countrys. I realized there was no place like the USA. The vibe even the way they display street signs and paint the roads. I really enjoyed all whom I met in the UK and Australia and are very nice people, but when you're in another country they know where you are from and not just by the sound of your voice, but by your actions. If you are a US citizen you represent the USA no matter what country you are visiting, or move to. It comes with you. flag wink
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Reply #86 posted 02/20/03 11:56pm

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Yeah Lav, come to CANADA. You can come visit me. I will show you around...What do you say, eh?
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Reply #87 posted 02/21/03 12:48am

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If my children were older i would give it serious thought.


I hear you SuperC. But the U.S. educational system is seriously flawed. Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to live and at live.
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Reply #88 posted 02/21/03 2:17am

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ian said:

BTW I'm from Ireland, and I'm currently living in Scotland. I'd recommend both places, they're great places to live in. Of course, I'd imagine it's a bit awkward for Americans to get work visas for some countries, I'm not sure what's involved there. Anyway I recommend Europe smile


I have heard great things about Europe...guess I might have to marry some European, eh?

lol

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Reply #89 posted 02/21/03 3:55am

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bkw said:

althom said:

Moonbeam said:


However, I seriously considered applying for a Fulbright Scholarship in Chile after graduation. I don't have any qualms about moving out of the country. Australia sounds awfully nice...

wink

Hey Moonbeam is coming to Australia. Me, bkw and MrBliss can take you out on the town and show you our favorite spots. We'll promise Diva that we won't hurt you though. innocent evillol

he heh

we promise! biggrin


Oh boy...

Sounds like trouble lol
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