whistle said:

i wish i had more gay friends. i couldn't care less what anyone thinks about it.

I can be your friend

MacDaddy said:

whistle said:

i wish i had more gay friends. i couldn't care less what anyone thinks about it.

I can be your friend

brilliant. i'd love to go to Holland. i wanna be European again.

whistle said:

MacDaddy said:

I can be your friend

brilliant. i'd love to go to Holland. i wanna be European again.

I believe Viv and Lisa are planning a trip to Amsterdam early next year as well. Maybe you should join them. Anyway, you're more than welcome to come over anytime.

kitbradley said:

JoeTyler said:

why? because there are way too many stupid and homophobic straight males out there, twisting the reality and creating clichés...

I know. There are lots of straight men who think every gay man wants them. No matter how nasty, ugly and disgusting the straight man is.

Yawn...you wish.

ThreadBare said:

HotGritz said:

As for the guys, I don't know any gay guys who have straight guy friends. Maybe that is their choice or the choice of the straight guy. Perhaps its questioned because we wonder what they would have in common. If you're talking a fem acting gay guy then I don't imagine he would have many straight male friends. As for a masculine gay guy then I would think he would have both gay and straight male friends and no one would question it.

Yep, i think if the friendship involves a fem acting gay guy then the str8 guy is about to get the side eye....as he well should! Men are hos, hadn't you heard?

Give men more credit, please. I'm straight and have gay male friends. One of my best friends, who died a while back, was bi. In his most flamboyant days, yes, it got a little uncomfortable. But we could joke about it because we were friends. Maybe I was cool with it because I'd had a straight, flamboyant, Prince-imitating friend in high school. I was used to not caring much about people's opinions. I knew i wasn't gay or bi, so i never sweated it. If you're blessed enough to befriend good, respectful people in life, cherish them. They're scarce, regardless of their orientation. If you can't be a real friend to someone because they're gay and they respect your boundaries and (straight) relationships, it really is your loss.

PunkMistress said:

HotGritz said:

Uh you're being mega ignorant for hurling insults at me. If you don't like the comment nor understand it then keep it moving

And yeah I said it! I happen to like a bit of sarcasm with my truth. If you're a straight guy hanging around a gay guy that acts like a chick and that guy is not your relative then yes you will be looked at funny and you probably should be looked at funny. Double standards may suck but they exist and maybe under certain circumtances they should exist. There is a saying..."you are the company that you keep" and "birds of a feather flock together" so if you are a straight guy then you need to consider who you hang out with (that is if you don't want to be suspected of not being a straight guy).

If you're a married man and you hang out with known whoremongers then guess what people will think of you. If you don't use drugs but all your friends do then guess what people will think of you. Why should sexuality be treated any different especially when someone makes it so apparent? Now if you don't care about your reputation then none of this matters but human nature dictates most people care what others think. If they didn't, well we wouldn't have threads like this now would we?

Now surely that makes sense even to you.

You're equating gay people with drug addicts and whoremongers; and assuming that straight men should spend their time worrying about whether people think they're gay.

Your last sentence is quite wrong; the things you say don't make sense [even] to me.

And you'll know when I'm hurling insults. Inquiring whether you're being ignorant right now doesn't qualify.

I was wondering why whoremongers and drug addicts were brought up in a thread about gay men as well.

Terrib3Towel said:

bboy87 said:

If they're cool people, it shouldn't really matter

You're right, it shouldn't matter, but sadly it does. My roommate is very cool with me being gay, but his fraternity denied a guy a bid to join just because he was gay. It's a shame really, straight guys feel threatned by gay guys. They've been brainwashed by society to think that gays are sex-crazed people who can't control themselves. All that "I don't want a guy checking me out" shit really pissed me fuck off.

FUCKING DIPSHITS!!!

You have just described 99% of the straight men that I know!

vainandy said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Good point...in terms of men, straight men tend not to have or feel comfortable around gay male friends.....

[Edited 12/5/11 9:48am]

They're comforable around them. What they're not comfortable with, is what these other asshole men will think of them for being around the gay friend. Most men aren't strong minded enough to not give a damn.

As I stated earlier, it's been my experience that straight men who I've been around are more concerned with what straight females may think, not what other straight guys are going to think. It seems that the younger generation of straight men seem a tad more comfortable around gay men. Its the females that have a problem with seeing straight men being friends with gay men.

Terrib3Towel said:

bboy87 said:

If they're cool people, it shouldn't really matter

You're right, it shouldn't matter, but sadly it does. My roommate is very cool with me being gay, but his fraternity denied a guy a bid to join just because he was gay. It's a shame really, straight guys feel threatned by gay guys. They've been brainwashed by society to think that gays are sex-crazed people who can't control themselves. All that "I don't want a guy checking me out" shit really pissed me fuck off.

FUCKING DIPSHITS!!!

I think there is some truth to that....I've heard so many stories (not distant stories but friends/tour leaders etc) of gay guys just being so over promiscuous its frightening...

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Terrib3Towel said:

You're right, it shouldn't matter, but sadly it does. My roommate is very cool with me being gay, but his fraternity denied a guy a bid to join just because he was gay. It's a shame really, straight guys feel threatned by gay guys. They've been brainwashed by society to think that gays are sex-crazed people who can't control themselves. All that "I don't want a guy checking me out" shit really pissed me fuck off.

FUCKING DIPSHITS!!!

I think there is some truth to that....I've heard so many stories (not distant stories but friends/tour leaders etc) of gay guys just being so over promiscuous its frightening...

Many gay men are promiscuous with each other. Many gay men are faithful to one partner. Still others casually date, and a few are even celibate.

But have any of those stories involved gay men running around raping every straight man they lay eyes on? I think that's the irrational fear Terrib3Towel is talking about.

sextonseven said:

PunkMistress said:

You're equating gay people with drug addicts and whoremongers; and assuming that straight men should spend their time worrying about whether people think they're gay.

Your last sentence is quite wrong; the things you say don't make sense [even] to me.

And you'll know when I'm hurling insults. Inquiring whether you're being ignorant right now doesn't qualify.

I was wondering why whoremongers and drug addicts were brought up in a thread about gay men as well.

That's because she knows me.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Terrib3Towel said:

You're right, it shouldn't matter, but sadly it does. My roommate is very cool with me being gay, but his fraternity denied a guy a bid to join just because he was gay. It's a shame really, straight guys feel threatned by gay guys. They've been brainwashed by society to think that gays are sex-crazed people who can't control themselves. All that "I don't want a guy checking me out" shit really pissed me fuck off.

FUCKING DIPSHITS!!!

I think there is some truth to that....I've heard so many stories (not distant stories but friends/tour leaders etc) of gay guys just being so over promiscuous its frightening...

Hey, not all of us are fun.

vainandy said:

HotGritz said:

Not always the case. I had one lesbian friend for a couple years (met at the gym) and got my sexuality questioned. Funny thing is that she didn't even look butch, just a girly girl but whatever people felt some kind of way and we're not friends anymore. I think it bothered her more because she often got asked if she was "sure" she was gay.

As for the guys, I don't know any gay guys who have straight guy friends. Maybe that is their choice or the choice of the straight guy. Perhaps its questioned because we wonder what they would have in common. If you're talking a fem acting gay guy then I don't imagine he would have many straight male friends. As for a masculine gay guy then I would think he would have both gay and straight male friends and no one would question it.

Yep, i think if the friendship involves a fem acting gay guy then the str8 guy is about to get the side eye....as he well should! Men are hos, hadn't you heard?

I'm feminine and striaght guys and I have music in common. I have very butch taste in music. I've always liked the funkiest, hardest music out there and have always hated some sissified weak ass adult contemporary bullshit, showtunes, and "emotional" songs with such "meaningful" lyrics. Most straight men have always been into the hard stuff like the funk, or hard rock, or heavy metal until the adult contemporary, neo stool, and shit hop era came along and now straight men as well as women listen to shit as dull as a damn Judy Garland parade....and they have the nerve to call themselves "straight" these days. Hell, my gay ass is straighter than them and my white ass is blacker.

Plus, lots of straight men are dirty minded and foul mouthed and so am I. I have a few straight male friends and we talk some nasty shit together. We just talk about a different gender that's all. For instance, they'll talk about getting ready to eat some pussy and it smelled like some damn sardines and they said "Hell naw" and I may talk about a mothefucker who pulled his dick out and it smelled liked sardines and I told the motherfucker to wash the damn pussy off his damn dick before he comes to see me next time because I don't want his wife's leftovers. Then, of course, I'll tell them the reason that bitch smelled like sardines is because she didn't wash up after sex just like that man didn't wash up.

But you see what I mean, just like I like talk shit and laugh and have fun with you right here in this very post, that's how I do with them also. Everybody likes to have fun and be around fun people. People have a lot more in common than you would think. The whole male world doesn't revolve around sports....although there are a lot of gay men out there that love sports also. But of course, we're just like everyone else. Not all of us have great taste.

Andy you have always come off more masculine than fem to me. I wouldn't classify you as fem acting based on your posts alone and that was my point. I'm not saying that a straight guy will get questioned SIMPLY for having a gay male friend...its the type of role that gay male friend may play; fem or butch and that's why i have other examples of how one would have their character or sexuality questioned based on the friends they have. I can see you having straight guy friends for the reasons you mentioned and as you say, you come off more straight than they do. Now I haven't seen you so if you smell like Mariah Carey's Lollipop Bling perfume and are wearing women's blouses and high heels like those dudes on ATL Housewives then yeah....your straight friends (so-called) will get the side eye especially when we see how many dudes end up being in the closet anyway. I can tell you with all honesty, I have never met a straight guy (and I've met a damn lot) who would be comfortable having conversations about what two dudes do even if the underlying point is similar to what they go through with their straight relations. Its neither wrong nor right, it just is.

And @ some dudes ass smelling like sardines. Where do you find these men??

vainandy said:

HotGritz said:

Uh you're being mega ignorant for hurling insults at me. If you don't like the comment nor understand it then keep it moving

And yeah I said it! I happen to like a bit of sarcasm with my truth. If you're a straight guy hanging around a gay guy that acts like a chick and that guy is not your relative then yes you will be looked at funny and you probably should be looked at funny. Double standards may suck but they exist and maybe under certain circumtances they should exist. There is a saying..."you are the company that you keep" and "birds of a feather flock together" so if you are a straight guy then you need to consider who you hang out with (that is if you don't want to be suspected of not being a straight guy).

If you're a married man and you hang out with known whoremongers then guess what people will think of you. If you don't use drugs but all your friends do then guess what people will think of you. Why should sexuality be treated any different especially when someone makes it so apparent? Now if you don't care about your reputation then none of this matters but human nature dictates most people care what others think. If they didn't, well we wouldn't have threads like this now would we?

Now surely that makes sense even to you.

That's the case if a so-called straight man is hanging out with nothing but gay men just like if a married straight man is hanging out with a whole lot of women. There's a good chance he's cheating or fucking around. But if he's hanging out with only one, or maybe even two, it's very possible that they are simply friends.

I 75% agree. Speaking from experience, all I had to do was hang around one married guy and then his wife and mutual friends of ours swore up and down we were fucking because they thought a married guy shouldn't have a single woman as a friend and vice versa. Lesson learned. I still talk to him on the phone though

vainandy said:

SUPRMAN said:

My friends know I'm gay and that doesn't limit hugging, occassional kisses (cheeks, forehead, crown of head) in front of other straight friends.

Their wives and girlfriends don't feel threatened. Spending the night doesn't bring suggestions regarding sexual activity.

Since we aren't looking to sleep with each other, our sexuality isn't a problem in our friendship.

There are some guys though . . . .

I have one former coworker who wants to be a friend, but doesn't seem comfortable having a gay friend. We talk in code. He doesn't want to hear it. When he comes over (yes, he's spent the night), he won't go into my bedroom. It's stupid to me, but at his own pace.

Hmmmmmmm........isn't confortable having a gay friend but wants to have one and even goes so far as to spend the night even though he's "uncomfortable" having a gay friend. Won't go into the bedroom but will still spend the night so he's a little less "uncomfortable". I see you working it you whore you and you've got him slowly but surely climbing into your web. You better work.

And here goes Andy reading my mind.

Supr...sorry bruh you lost me at hugging and occasional kisses and spending the night and y'all from Oaktown too?

I got 5 dollars and a quarter that say if you and your buddies go camping for a week and bring alchohol but no women - one of them so called str8s is fucking. I aint saying they're fucking you....but two dudes is gettin' it in after everyone else go to sleep.

ThreadBare said:

HotGritz said:

As for the guys, I don't know any gay guys who have straight guy friends. Maybe that is their choice or the choice of the straight guy. Perhaps its questioned because we wonder what they would have in common. If you're talking a fem acting gay guy then I don't imagine he would have many straight male friends. As for a masculine gay guy then I would think he would have both gay and straight male friends and no one would question it.

Yep, i think if the friendship involves a fem acting gay guy then the str8 guy is about to get the side eye....as he well should! Men are hos, hadn't you heard?

Give men more credit, please. I'm straight and have gay male friends. One of my best friends, who died a while back, was bi. In his most flamboyant days, yes, it got a little uncomfortable. But we could joke about it because we were friends. Maybe I was cool with it because I'd had a straight, flamboyant, Prince-imitating friend in high school. I was used to not caring much about people's opinions. I knew i wasn't gay or bi, so i never sweated it.

If you're blessed enough to befriend good, respectful people in life, cherish them. They're scarce, regardless of their orientation. If you can't be a real friend to someone because they're gay and they respect your boundaries and (straight) relationships, it really is your loss.

To your first paragraph: Anomalie I won't ask why it got uncomfortable in his most flamboyant days but kudos to you for admitting there was an uncomfortable moment rather than stating everything was 100% peachy all of the time. No friendships, sexuality aside, are like that.

To your second paragraph: Well stated but we know in the real world, true friendships are built and cultivated over time. People can be real friends but its something that not only takes work but is rooted in common ground. I wouldn't fault somebody for not wanting to be friends with someone that say....didn't share their values or beliefs.

vainandy said:

HotGritz said:

Not always the case. I had one lesbian friend for a couple years (met at the gym) and got my sexuality questioned. Funny thing is that she didn't even look butch, just a girly girl but whatever people felt some kind of way and we're not friends anymore. I think it bothered her more because she often got asked if she was "sure" she was gay.

As for the guys, I don't know any gay guys who have straight guy friends. Maybe that is their choice or the choice of the straight guy. Perhaps its questioned because we wonder what they would have in common. If you're talking a fem acting gay guy then I don't imagine he would have many straight male friends. As for a masculine gay guy then I would think he would have both gay and straight male friends and no one would question it.

Yep, i think if the friendship involves a fem acting gay guy then the str8 guy is about to get the side eye....as he well should! Men are hos, hadn't you heard?

I'm feminine and striaght guys and I have music in common. I have very butch taste in music. I've always liked the funkiest, hardest music out there and have always hated some sissified weak ass adult contemporary bullshit, showtunes, and "emotional" songs with such "meaningful" lyrics. Most straight men have always been into the hard stuff like the funk, or hard rock, or heavy metal until the adult contemporary, neo stool, and shit hop era came along and now straight men as well as women listen to shit as dull as a damn Judy Garland parade....and they have the nerve to call themselves "straight" these days. Hell, my gay ass is straighter than them and my white ass is blacker.

Plus, lots of straight men are dirty minded and foul mouthed and so am I. I have a few straight male friends and we talk some nasty shit together. We just talk about a different gender that's all. For instance, they'll talk about getting ready to eat some pussy and it smelled like some damn sardines and they said "Hell naw" and I may talk about a mothefucker who pulled his dick out and it smelled liked sardines and I told the motherfucker to wash the damn pussy off his damn dick before he comes to see me next time because I don't want his wife's leftovers. Then, of course, I'll tell them the reason that bitch smelled like sardines is because she didn't wash up after sex just like that man didn't wash up.

But you see what I mean, just like I like talk shit and laugh and have fun with you right here in this very post, that's how I do with them also. Everybody likes to have fun and be around fun people. People have a lot more in common than you would think. The whole male world doesn't revolve around sports....although there are a lot of gay men out there that love sports also. But of course, we're just like everyone else. Not all of us have great taste.

This just goes to prove that sterotypes are not always very dependable.

HotGritz said:

ThreadBare said:

HotGritz said:

Give men more credit, please. I'm straight and have gay male friends. One of my best friends, who died a while back, was bi. In his most flamboyant days, yes, it got a little uncomfortable. But we could joke about it because we were friends. Maybe I was cool with it because I'd had a straight, flamboyant, Prince-imitating friend in high school. I was used to not caring much about people's opinions. I knew i wasn't gay or bi, so i never sweated it.

If you're blessed enough to befriend good, respectful people in life, cherish them. They're scarce, regardless of their orientation. If you can't be a real friend to someone because they're gay and they respect your boundaries and (straight) relationships, it really is your loss.

To your first paragraph: Anomalie I won't ask why it got uncomfortable in his most flamboyant days but kudos to you for admitting there was an uncomfortable moment rather than stating everything was 100% peachy all of the time. No friendships, sexuality aside, are like that.

To your second paragraph: Well stated but we know in the real world, true friendships are built and cultivated over time. People can be real friends but its something that not only takes work but is rooted in common ground. I wouldn't fault somebody for not wanting to be friends with someone that say....didn't share their values or beliefs.

I wouldn't either -- except he and I shared the same values and beliefs. He just identified as bisexual.

kitbradley said:

Why is it okay for a straight woman to have as many lesbian friends as she wants and her sexuality never comes into question, but if a straight man has just one purely platonic gay male friend, people question or comment on his sexuality? I've noticed this a lot over the years and am curious as to why there is such a double standard where having gay friends is concerned.

Men and women get the same amount of flack for having gay friends where I'm from. When I'm teased about having gay friends I simply ask whomever's asking if they're jealous.

HotGritz said:

vainandy said:

Hmmmmmmm........isn't confortable having a gay friend but wants to have one and even goes so far as to spend the night even though he's "uncomfortable" having a gay friend. Won't go into the bedroom but will still spend the night so he's a little less "uncomfortable". I see you working it you whore you and you've got him slowly but surely climbing into your web. You better work.

And here goes Andy reading my mind.

Supr...sorry bruh you lost me at hugging and occasional kisses and spending the night and y'all from Oaktown too?

I got 5 dollars and a quarter that say if you and your buddies go camping for a week and bring alchohol but no women - one of them so called str8s is fucking. I aint saying they're fucking you....but two dudes is gettin' it in after everyone else go to sleep.

Umm, we do get together for weekends annually, all men and no women. No one's had sex yet.

Different group of friends w/ the hugging and kissing. We've know each other for almost 20 years.

Spending the night?! I'd rather have them spend the night than try driving drunk.

I'm not interested in every man walking. My friends know this.

HotGritz said:

PunkMistress said:

A straight guy should be looked at funny if he is friends with a "feminine acting" gay male?

Am I misunderstanding you, or are you being mega ignorant right now?

Uh you're being mega ignorant for hurling insults at me. If you don't like the comment nor understand it then keep it moving

And yeah I said it! I happen to like a bit of sarcasm with my truth. If you're a straight guy hanging around a gay guy that acts like a chick and that guy is not your relative then yes you will be looked at funny and you probably should be looked at funny. Double standards may suck but they exist and maybe under certain circumtances they should exist. There is a saying..."you are the company that you keep" and "birds of a feather flock together" so if you are a straight guy then you need to consider who you hang out with (that is if you don't want to be suspected of not being a straight guy).

If you're a married man and you hang out with known whoremongers then guess what people will think of you. If you don't use drugs but all your friends do then guess what people will think of you. Why should sexuality be treated any different especially when someone makes it so apparent? Now if you don't care about your reputation then none of this matters but human nature dictates most people care what others think. If they didn't, well we wouldn't have threads like this now would we?

Now surely that makes sense even to you.

Wtf.

SUPRMAN said:

HotGritz said:

And here goes Andy reading my mind.

Supr...sorry bruh you lost me at hugging and occasional kisses and spending the night and y'all from Oaktown too?

I got 5 dollars and a quarter that say if you and your buddies go camping for a week and bring alchohol but no women - one of them so called str8s is fucking. I aint saying they're fucking you....but two dudes is gettin' it in after everyone else go to sleep.

Umm, we do get together for weekends annually, all men and no women. No one's had sex yet.

Different group of friends w/ the hugging and kissing. We've know each other for almost 20 years.

Spending the night?! I'd rather have them spend the night than try driving drunk.

I'm not interested in every man walking. My friends know this.

I've got a straight friend that I've known since the sixth grade in 1978. I never came out of the closet to myself or to anyone else until 1990 so I think someone knowing you all those years beforehand makes a big difference in their acceptance of you.

He's never spent the night but if he wanted to, he'd be safe.

__________________

Uh....wait a minute....I had to go back and re-read one of your posts when you said....

He spent the night when we had gone out as a group of coworkers. I lived within walking distance. When his ex wouldn't take him home or whatever, instead of riding his bike home, he slept at my place.

I knew I wasn't going crazy up in here. Walking distance???? You old whore you sitting up there trying to play little miss innocent talking about preventing him from driving home drunk. I still see you workin' it.

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[Edited 12/7/11 22:36pm]

JustErin said:

HotGritz said:

Uh you're being mega ignorant for hurling insults at me. If you don't like the comment nor understand it then keep it moving

And yeah I said it! I happen to like a bit of sarcasm with my truth. If you're a straight guy hanging around a gay guy that acts like a chick and that guy is not your relative then yes you will be looked at funny and you probably should be looked at funny. Double standards may suck but they exist and maybe under certain circumtances they should exist. There is a saying..."you are the company that you keep" and "birds of a feather flock together" so if you are a straight guy then you need to consider who you hang out with (that is if you don't want to be suspected of not being a straight guy).

If you're a married man and you hang out with known whoremongers then guess what people will think of you. If you don't use drugs but all your friends do then guess what people will think of you. Why should sexuality be treated any different especially when someone makes it so apparent? Now if you don't care about your reputation then none of this matters but human nature dictates most people care what others think. If they didn't, well we wouldn't have threads like this now would we?

Now surely that makes sense even to you.

Wtf.

Sorry I have to make this announcement:

ALL YOU STRAIGHT ORGERS THAT ENJOY HANGING OUT WITH ME (and I do enjoy hanging out with y'all SO too!).

...YOU MIGHT BE GAY

johnart said:

JustErin said:

Wtf.

Sorry I have to make this announcement:

ALL YOU STRAIGHT ORGERS THAT ENJOY HANGING OUT WITH ME (and I do enjoy hanging out with y'all SO too!).

...YOU MIGHT BE GAY

Bitch, all that liquor you keep up in your place, ain't NO man safe around you!

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Terrib3Towel said:

You're right, it shouldn't matter, but sadly it does. My roommate is very cool with me being gay, but his fraternity denied a guy a bid to join just because he was gay. It's a shame really, straight guys feel threatned by gay guys. They've been brainwashed by society to think that gays are sex-crazed people who can't control themselves. All that "I don't want a guy checking me out" shit really pissed me fuck off.

FUCKING DIPSHITS!!!

I think there is some truth to that....I've heard so many stories (not distant stories but friends/tour leaders etc) of gay guys just being so over promiscuous its frightening...

I dont' think there is much difference between gay and straight men when it comes to this sort of thing. I've always felt it was more of a gender diference.

In any case...Frightening to whom? It's their business I'd imagine.

vainandy said:

johnart said:

Sorry I have to make this announcement:

ALL YOU STRAIGHT ORGERS THAT ENJOY HANGING OUT WITH ME (and I do enjoy hanging out with y'all SO too!).

...YOU MIGHT BE GAY

Bitch, all that liquor you keep up in your place, ain't NO man safe around you!

Yeah, I've had them all.ALL I tellz ya!

And PunkMistress took pictures in most cases too.

But hey, if they didn't want me startin them rumors I guess they shouldn't be hangin round a nelly-ass lile myself.

johnart said:

vainandy said:

Bitch, all that liquor you keep up in your place, ain't NO man safe around you!

Yeah, I've had them all.ALL I tellz ya!

And PunkMistress took pictures in most cases too.

But hey, if they didn't want me startin them rumors I guess they shouldn't be hangin round a nelly-ass lile myself.

I forgot about that. Ain't no titties safe around your ass either. You old whore.

vainandy said:

johnart said:

Yeah, I've had them all.ALL I tellz ya!

And PunkMistress took pictures in most cases too.

But hey, if they didn't want me startin them rumors I guess they shouldn't be hangin round a nelly-ass lile myself.

I forgot about that. Ain't no titties safe around your ass either. You old whore.

That's my super-power hon.

kitbradley said:

Why is it okay for a straight woman to have as many lesbian friends as she wants and her sexuality never comes into question, but if a straight man has just one purely platonic gay male friend, people question or comment on his sexuality? I've noticed this a lot over the years and am curious as to why there is such a double standard where having gay friends is concerned.

Yes, the double standard does exist. The reason is because there is a higher level of homophobia and/or anti-gay resentment among most straight male circles (especially in the black communities in the USA).

And at the same time, some of those same homophobic male are a bunch of what I like to called "sexual hypocritics". They are the kind of straight men that dislike/hate on gay men, but yet have no problem with lesbian and bisexual women around them and their wives/girlfriends.

johnart said:

Because 90% of people are stupid-fuck asswipes.

THAT^ too!