JustErin said:

Tremolina said:

Yeah and skip work for the day

I'll blame it on my "female problem".

Right and I on my "male problem". I'm sure my boss will understand if I show him your picture

Tremolina said:

JustErin said:

I'll blame it on my "female problem".

Right and I on my "male problem". I'm sure my boss will understand if I show him your picture

My monthly was never a problem ( a 3 day blip) unitl I reached middle age, then it was another story. I had just a lil' bit of an experience of what some girls/women told me they go through from day one. So, I don't assume to know what anyone is going through physically or why for some women their monthly are so difficult. I don't make judgements about people illness or chronic conditions; I would think you'd have to walk in their shoes a bit. (IMHO)

Just reading the post here, I would think would give you a lil' insight of the challenges that women face when it comes to children, whether they're a single parent or not. To be fair, in the U.S. it's still not socially acceptable for men to take time off for family concerns. Of course some men make a conscious/passive aggressive choice NOT to take time off because, its hard work. If you''ve been lucky enough to get through life without any short term or long term health concerns, I'd say keep uh liven'. Nobody gets out of this mess alive.

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I wonder how many "Anti Parent" Posters here have rung in Sick cuz they had a Hangover?

I have never worked with any Women who used her Problems for a Day off.

TD3 said:

Just reading the post here, I would think would give you a lil' insight of the challenges that women face when it comes to children, whether they're a single parent or not. To be fair, in the U.S. it's still not socially acceptable for men to take time off for family concerns. Of course some men make a conscious/passive aggressive choice make time because, its hard work.

And there lies the problem. We can't have it all and think we can get away with it.

My position on this matter is that:

If a woman wants to work, especially full time AND take care of her kids, she takes on a LOT of responsibility. For many women that's basically too much already, but it certainly gets too much when you do NOT expect your husband/partner to do the same thing. When it's always you who needs to stay home to take care of a sick child and always you who needs to go to daycare or school for whatever. You wanna be "equal"? Then be so.

If not, fine too, then you chose family responsibilities over your job responsibilities. But then you also need to deal with the consequences of that choice and not expect everybody to just move along with whatever you personal issues then are.

TD3 said:

To be fair, in the U.S it's still not socially acceptable for men to take time off for family concerns.

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Its the same here in the UK, We are still in the 1950's when it comes to Parenting.

Revolution said:

kitbradley said:

Well, I don't have "female problems" because I'm a guy. But, when I call in sick, I've just always said, "I'm not feeling well. I won't be in today". It's never been a problem for me. I choose not to reveal any illnesses because I find when I've done so in the past and I come back to the office the next day, people are asking specific questions, which means my boss has announced to everyone why I called in.

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Some bosses have no clue...I work with one who always announces conditions the minute she is off the phone. I purposely don't tell her shit, because I know she can't wait to share. Doesn't that violate HIPPA laws? Maybe we can get her fired!

You know, I was thinking the same thing. It most certainly does violate HIPPA. And the boss has no right to ask you unless you have to take off an extended period of time and then a simple note from your attending physician should be enough. Them trying to get every little detail is none of their damn business unless you want them to know.

Tremolina said:

TD3 said:

Just reading the post here, I would think would give you a lil' insight of the challenges that women face when it comes to children, whether they're a single parent or not. To be fair, in the U.S. it's still not socially acceptable for men to take time off for family concerns. Of course some men make a conscious/passive aggressive choice make time because, its hard work.

And there lies the problem. We can't have it all and think we can get away with it.

My position on this matter is that:

If a woman wants to work, especially full time AND take care of her kids, she takes on a LOT of responsibility. For many women that's basically too much already, but it certainly gets too much when you do NOT expect your husband/partner to do the same thing. When it's always you who needs to stay home to take care of a sick child and always you who needs to go to daycare or school for whatever. You wanna be "equal"? Then be so.

If not, fine too, then you chose family responsibilities over your job responsibilities. But then you also need to deal with the consequences of that choice and not expect everybody to just move along with whatever you personal issues then are.

So, what about men who want to have kids? I don't think it's just about the woman who wants kids and a job. I think it's a joint decision and planning.

In my teen years, I had really bad cramps. I'm talking debilitating cramps that would keep me in bed all day and feeling weak, being anemic back then certainly didn't help. There was a day when I called in sick to my part-time job and like a fool I answered honestly when my boss inquired as to why I wasn't coming in. When I told him I'm on my period and feeling very sick, he said "Can't you just take some Midol?"

From that day forward I've never disclosed female problems to anyone I work with. Bottom line, neither women nor men respect that some females have difficulty during that time of the month.

Now who I really have empathy for are those people, mostly females, who have that fibromyalsia (sp). There is still debate on whether its a legitimate disease/illness and I think employers are apt to view a person who suffers from it as "using the condition as an excuse".

HotGritz said:

neither women nor men respect that some females have difficulty during that time of the month.

Yay, we all love a sweeping generalisation its what makes the World tick

itsnotallover said:

HotGritz said:

neither women nor men respect that some females have difficulty during that time of the month.

Yay, we all love a sweeping generalisation its what makes the World tick

You know its true. Quit playing. Perhaps I should have said FULLY RESPECT!

HotGritz said:

itsnotallover said:

Yay, we all love a sweeping generalisation its what makes the World tick

You know its true. Quit playing. Perhaps I should have said FULLY RESPECT!

Perhaps you should requote it to "Fully understand" - I totally respect the fact that Women have to endure something I could not imagine enduring myself, I also respect that some Women suffer more than others during that time. What I don't do is fully understand, I am a Man and therefore, much the same as Childbirth, will never fully understand as I have never had, nor will ever have the experience

itsnotallover said:

HotGritz said:

You know its true. Quit playing. Perhaps I should have said FULLY RESPECT!

Perhaps you should requote it to "Fully understand" - I totally respect the fact that Women have to endure something I could not imagine enduring myself, I also respect that some Women suffer more than others during that time. What I don't do is fully understand, I am a Man and therefore, much the same as Childbirth, will never fully understand as I have never had, nor will ever have the experience

That goes without saying. If you don't understand something to begin with then you can't respect it.

dJJ said:

Tremolina said:

And there lies the problem. We can't have it all and think we can get away with it.

My position on this matter is that:

If a woman wants to work, especially full time AND take care of her kids, she takes on a LOT of responsibility. For many women that's basically too much already, but it certainly gets too much when you do NOT expect your husband/partner to do the same thing. When it's always you who needs to stay home to take care of a sick child and always you who needs to go to daycare or school for whatever. You wanna be "equal"? Then be so.

If not, fine too, then you chose family responsibilities over your job responsibilities. But then you also need to deal with the consequences of that choice and not expect everybody to just move along with whatever you personal issues then are.

So, what about men who want to have kids? I don't think it's just about the woman who wants kids and a job. I think it's a joint decision and planning.

That's what I am saying djj. If you gonna do it together, then do it together. if you gonna be equals, then be equals.

TD3 said:

My monthly was never a problem ( a 3 day blip) unitl I reached middle age, then it was another story. I had just a lil' bit of an experience of what some girls/women told me they go through from day one. So, I don't assume to know what anyone is going through physically or why for some women their monthly are so difficult. I don't make judgements about people illness or chronic conditions; I would think you'd have to walk in their shoes a bit. (IMHO)

Just reading the post here, I would think would give you a lil' insight of the challenges that women face when it comes to children, whether they're a single parent or not. To be fair, in the U.S. it's still not socially acceptable for men to take time off for family concerns. Of course some men make a conscious/passive aggressive choice NOT to take time off because, its hard work. If you''ve been lucky enough to get through life without any short term or long term health concerns, I'd say keep uh liven'. Nobody gets out of this mess alive.

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I should point out that I suspect some women of lying because they don't have the problem every 28 days and the timing is often out i.e 6 weeks since the last time they had a problem.

itsnotallover said:

TD3 said:

To be fair, in the U.S it's still not socially acceptable for men to take time off for family concerns.

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Its the same here in the UK, We are still in the 1950's when it comes to Parenting.

But someone still has to take time off work. I say: If you can't afford to have kids and have someone to be there at all times, don't have kids.

HotGritz said:

In my teen years, I had really bad cramps. I'm talking debilitating cramps that would keep me in bed all day and feeling weak, being anemic back then certainly didn't help. There was a day when I called in sick to my part-time job and like a fool I answered honestly when my boss inquired as to why I wasn't coming in. When I told him I'm on my period and feeling very sick, he said "Can't you just take some Midol?"

Again, I understand some women have real problems. I just suspect others use it on male bosses so they won't question any further.

And your boss back then was a complete twat.

MrBartolozzi said:

TD3 said:

My monthly was never a problem ( a 3 day blip) unitl I reached middle age, then it was another story. I had just a lil' bit of an experience of what some girls/women told me they go through from day one. So, I don't assume to know what anyone is going through physically or why for some women their monthly are so difficult. I don't make judgements about people illness or chronic conditions; I would think you'd have to walk in their shoes a bit. (IMHO)

Just reading the post here, I would think would give you a lil' insight of the challenges that women face when it comes to children, whether they're a single parent or not. To be fair, in the U.S. it's still not socially acceptable for men to take time off for family concerns. Of course some men make a conscious/passive aggressive choice NOT to take time off because, its hard work. If you''ve been lucky enough to get through life without any short term or long term health concerns, I'd say keep uh liven'. Nobody gets out of this mess alive.

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I should point out that I suspect some women of lying because they don't have the problem every 28 days and the timing is often out i.e 6 weeks since the last time they had a problem.

You do realize that it isn't unusual for women to have cycles as short as 21 days...or as long as 40 days...right? And that if a woman is in perimenopause, her cycle may even shorter or longer than that - or have no pattern, whatsoever?

28 days is the average, not an ironclad rule.

Genesia said:

MrBartolozzi said:

I should point out that I suspect some women of lying because they don't have the problem every 28 days and the timing is often out i.e 6 weeks since the last time they had a problem.

You do realize that it isn't unusual for women to have cycles as short as 21 days...or as long as 40 days...right? And that if a woman is in perimenopause, her cycle may even shorter or longer than that - or have no pattern, whatsoever?

28 days is the average, not an ironclad rule.

Ya, you ladies should work on that.

Genesia said:

MrBartolozzi said:

I should point out that I suspect some women of lying because they don't have the problem every 28 days and the timing is often out i.e 6 weeks since the last time they had a problem.

You do realize that it isn't unusual for women to have cycles as short as 21 days...or as long as 40 days...right? And that if a woman is in perimenopause, her cycle may even shorter or longer than that - or have no pattern, whatsoever?

28 days is the average, not an ironclad rule.

I realised it wasn't it wasn't always 28 days exactly, but must admit to not realising there could be such a difference or that there isn't some king of pattern. This being the case I should keep my big gay male mouth shut.

However, judging by some of the posts, I was right.

kewlschool said:

Genesia said:

You do realize that it isn't unusual for women to have cycles as short as 21 days...or as long as 40 days...right? And that if a woman is in perimenopause, her cycle may even shorter or longer than that - or have no pattern, whatsoever?

28 days is the average, not an ironclad rule.

Ya, you ladies should work on that.

Yeah...we're all gonna synchronize and come to your house!

Genesia said:

kewlschool said:

Ya, you ladies should work on that.

Yeah...we're all gonna synchronize and come to your house!

MrBartolozzi said:

Genesia said:

You do realize that it isn't unusual for women to have cycles as short as 21 days...or as long as 40 days...right? And that if a woman is in perimenopause, her cycle may even shorter or longer than that - or have no pattern, whatsoever?

28 days is the average, not an ironclad rule.

I realised it wasn't it wasn't always 28 days exactly, but must admit to not realising there could be such a difference or that there isn't some king of pattern. This being the case I should keep my big gay male mouth shut.

However, judging by some of the posts, I was right.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying some women don't play it to the hilt. It does happen. And it makes me want to kick the trifling asses of the women who do it - because it makes us all look bad.

There are women who have a rough time, though. Sometimes it's serious - endometriosis or fibroids, for example. Even stuff that sounds minor, like insomnia (or, in my case, insomnia-related migraine), can wreak havoc with your work life.

Genesia said:

MrBartolozzi said:

I realised it wasn't it wasn't always 28 days exactly, but must admit to not realising there could be such a difference or that there isn't some king of pattern. This being the case I should keep my big gay male mouth shut.

However, judging by some of the posts, I was right.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying some women don't play it to the hilt. It does happen. And it makes me want to kick the trifling asses of the women who do it - because it makes us all look bad.

There are women who have a rough time, though. Sometimes it's serious - endometriosis or fibroids, for example. Even stuff that sounds minor, like insomnia (or, in my case, insomnia-related migraine), can wreak havoc with your work life.

I suffer with migraines and have heard people say 'Oh, he's just got a headache'. So I do relate.

MrBartolozzi said:

Genesia said:

Hey, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying some women don't play it to the hilt. It does happen. And it makes me want to kick the trifling asses of the women who do it - because it makes us all look bad.

There are women who have a rough time, though. Sometimes it's serious - endometriosis or fibroids, for example. Even stuff that sounds minor, like insomnia (or, in my case, insomnia-related migraine), can wreak havoc with your work life.

I suffer with migraines and have heard people say 'Oh, he's just got a headache'. So I do relate.

I usually tough it out and go to work, anyway. (I've had a migraine all day today - including brain fog so bad I'm barely functioning, and tingles in my left hand.) About the only time I bail is if I have an aura before I leave the house in the morning. There's no way I'm even thinking of doing an 80-mile roundtrip commute if I can't see.

I was on vacation the first three days of this week, though - so didn't feel like I could take another day. Mainly because it would have looked suspicious.

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Genesia said:

MrBartolozzi said:

I suffer with migraines and have heard people say 'Oh, he's just got a headache'. So I do relate.

I usually tough it out and go to work, anyway. (I've had a migraine all day today - including brain fog so bad I'm barely functioning, and tingles in my left hand.) About the only time I bail is if I have an aura before I leave the house in the morning. There's no way I'm even thinking of doing an 80-mile roundtrip commute if I can't see.

I was on vacation the first three days of this week, though - so didn't feel like I could take another day. Mainly because it would have looked suspicious.

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You must be one tough cookie! When I get a migraine I get soooo ungodly nauseous, and puke for at least 12 hours So there is no way I can function out of my bed... But for the last 4 years or so I havent gotten but more than 1 a year since I drink lots of water and work out! Dont know if working out helps but the two went hand in hand so imma stick with it! For sure the water part has worked wonders, for me anyway...

tinaz said:

Genesia said:

I usually tough it out and go to work, anyway. (I've had a migraine all day today - including brain fog so bad I'm barely functioning, and tingles in my left hand.) About the only time I bail is if I have an aura before I leave the house in the morning. There's no way I'm even thinking of doing an 80-mile roundtrip commute if I can't see.

I was on vacation the first three days of this week, though - so didn't feel like I could take another day. Mainly because it would have looked suspicious.

You must be one tough cookie! When I get a migraine I get soooo ungodly nauseous, and puke for at least 12 hours So there is no way I can function out of my bed... But for the last 4 years or so I havent gotten but more than 1 a year since I drink lots of water and work out! Dont know if working out helps but the two went hand in hand so imma stick with it! For sure the water part has worked wonders, for me anyway...

Oddly enough, I rarely experience nausea with a migraine. I am not looking forward to going out in the sunshine when I leave work, though. The only thing that saved me on the way in this morning was the fact that it was totally cloudy. Thank goodness, I have tinted windows and very dark glasses.

At this point, I'm listening to soft music, taking Advil and Tylenol together, and leaving my eyes as "unfocused" as I can. I have less than two hours to go in this day.

Genesia said:

tinaz said:

You must be one tough cookie! When I get a migraine I get soooo ungodly nauseous, and puke for at least 12 hours So there is no way I can function out of my bed... But for the last 4 years or so I havent gotten but more than 1 a year since I drink lots of water and work out! Dont know if working out helps but the two went hand in hand so imma stick with it! For sure the water part has worked wonders, for me anyway...

Oddly enough, I rarely experience nausea with a migraine. I am not looking forward to going out in the sunshine when I leave work, though. The only thing that saved me on the way in this morning was the fact that it was totally cloudy. Thank goodness, I have tinted windows and very dark glasses.

At this point, I'm listening to soft music, taking Advil and Tylenol together, and leaving my eyes as "unfocused" as I can. I have less than two hours to go in this day.

Its almost over, then you can get your comfy jammies on and make some hot tea, and relax..

tinaz said:

Genesia said:

Oddly enough, I rarely experience nausea with a migraine. I am not looking forward to going out in the sunshine when I leave work, though. The only thing that saved me on the way in this morning was the fact that it was totally cloudy. Thank goodness, I have tinted windows and very dark glasses.

At this point, I'm listening to soft music, taking Advil and Tylenol together, and leaving my eyes as "unfocused" as I can. I have less than two hours to go in this day.

Its almost over, then you can get your comfy jammies on and make some hot tea, and relax..

Thanks - that's exactly what I intend to do, too.

One year, I gave my wife a book for our anniversary. It was titled "101 Positions".

She gave me a book, too. It was titled "102 Excuses".