RebySky Reby Sky

As if today couldn't get any worse. Wow. Just ... heartbroken.

8 hours ago

RebySky Reby Sky

I REALLY need to stop asking myself if it can get any worse. Somehow, it always does.

2 hours ago

She also tweeted the following pic (looks like she went to Hardy's holding facility):

Stone Cold vs. CM Punk at Wrestlemania 28? It's apparently very much a possibility, according to Austin cuz he's open to it! I also agree with Austin's comment that Punk turned face WAAAAYYY too soon.

Steve Austin Says He Has One More Match Left

Hmmmm...

http://www.wwe.com/shows/...h-triple-h

Shawn Michaels, Sean Waltman discuss the war between Triple H and Kevin Nash

By: Ryan Murphy November 17, 2011

Tags: WWE Raw SuperShow: November 14, 2011, Shawn Michaels, Triple H

01:08

Seven months before Kevin Nash savagely attacked Triple H with a sledgehammer on WWE Raw SuperShow, the two men were standing with their longtime friends Shawn Michaels and Sean Waltman on the stage of Atlanta’s Philips Arena, celebrating HBK’s induction into the WWE Hall of Fame. It was a defining moment for the four Superstars who, along with Scott Hall, formed “The Kliq” — the most exclusive and, perhaps, most influential group in all of sports-entertainment.

In an industry where lasting friendships are rare, their alliance had withstood doomed promotions, debilitating injuries and personal demons. After two decades, The Kliq was still united.

But all that’s changed.

“They pushed it too far,” Shawn Michaels told WWE.com when asked about the war between The Game and Kevin Nash. “And it’s one of those things that, before it’s going to get better, I’m afraid it’s probably going to have to get worse.”

To understand the animosity between Kevin Nash and Triple H, you first have to appreciate the

dynamics of The Kliq. Formed by Michaels and Nash in the early ’90s, the “Two Dudes with Attitudes” developed a tight bond both in and out of the ring. Soon, they became a trio with the addition of Razor Ramon (Scott Hall), Shawn’s old friend from his days in the AWA. Hall, in turn, introduced a young rookie named The 1-2-3 Kid (Sean Waltman) to the group.

“We didn’t ride with other people, we didn’t hang out with other people, we didn’t talk that much to other people,” HBK said. “We all just developed a real serious friendship.”

As four of WWE’s biggest and most talented Superstars, The Kliq quickly began to wield considerable influence with Mr. McMahon — a fact that did not endear them to the younger competitors who were looking to make a name for themselves in WWE. But there was also conflict within their group over who was the true leader of the team, something that stemmed from Nash’s ever-present need to be the center of attention.

“I think Shawn thought he was pretty much the head honcho of The Kliq, except that Kev was the biggest,” Sean Waltman remembered. “Any time we’d be driving down the road, arguing about something, we’d go ‘Who made you the boss?’ Kev would always say, ‘God, because I’m the biggest.’”

03:59

The power struggle was further complicated when a fifth member joined The Kliq in 1995. As the story goes, Triple H, upon arriving in WWE from WCW, walked right up to Shawn Michaels and told him he wanted to be a part of his crew. It was a bold move that immediately impressed HBK.

“He wasn’t going to get over with the locker room by picking us to hang out with, but he did it anyway,” Michaels said. “I thought that was cool and Kev wasn’t sure, but, because he trusted my judgment, he let him in.”

Nash may have been skeptical of The Game at first, but the two soon connected through a shared passion for sports-entertainment and a drive to attain more than just championships. While the other Kliq members goofed off, Nash and Triple H discussed the inner workings of the sports-entertainment industry, attempting to figure out how to dominate not just in the ring, but in the corporate office.

“Those two were probably the closest we could get in our little group to being the responsible ones,” Michaels said. “It was only a matter of time before it was going to come down to see who was really the one that held it all together.”

It would be years before that finally happened. Following Hall and Nash’s exodus to WCW in 1996, The Kliq split into two factions — WCW’s New World Order and WWE’s D-Generation X. Both Nash and Triple H ascended to the top of their rival organizations while remaining close friends, but Big Kev faced failure when WCW crumbled around him in 2001. He moved in and out of the sports-entertainment realm after that, including a brief stop in WWE in 2002, but Nash seemed to flounder for much of the decade.

That was until the 2011 Royal Rumble. On that January night, Nash made his long-awaited return to WWE under his original Diesel persona and received a thunderous ovation. The big man was sure it was a sign that he belonged back on top of the largest sports-entertainment company in the world, but his phone calls to WWE’s COO went unanswered.

As it turns out, Kevin Nash is not the type of man who likes to be ignored.

“Kev was always willing to go and do things that I wasn’t willing to do to get ahead,” Waltman said. “Let’s face it, to get where Kevin has gotten in the industry, you have to be ruthless.”

09:24

For Nash, that meant hitting his friend of 15 years with a sledgehammer so hard that it crushed the vertebrae in his neck. The assault put The King of Kings in the hospital, but both Michaels and Waltman can attest to the same fact — Triple H always hits back.

“We all have a hell of a mean streak, every last one of us. And those guys, their mean streaks are as big as they are,” said the competitor formerly known as X-Pac. “If Nash is willing to go to those measures, I know Hunter would be too.”

It’s a fight both Waltman and Michaels know will happen, but neither want to see. According to HBK, had the entire Kliq been together like they were on that perfect night in March of 2011, this would have never happened. But they weren’t. Now, they may never be together again.

“There were plenty of times where one of us was about to get into it with the other one and, as buddies, we always made sure it didn’t happen,” Michaels said. “Early on, somebody could have diffused this, but it’s gone too far now. It’s going to be ugly.”

Timmy84 said:

angel345 said:

What, wrestling?

Yeah lol

Who watched Survivor Series tonight?

bboy87 said:

Who watched Survivor Series tonight?

I did. Thought it was a really fun show.

Nothing was too bad. Everything was entertaining. Not the best PPV of the year, but a solid 2nd.

I thought the Rock looked pretty good in the ring. Which, really was what the Main Event was about for the most park.

It wasn't really about storylines, or putting people over, or who comes out looking the best.

It was about The Rock shaking off the ring rust before Wrestlemania. I thought he looked good. Obviously, Hollywood doesn't have a Wellness Policy if you know what I mean.

MSG crowd is always special. The crowd chants made this show a lot better, IMO.

Especially during the Mark Henry vs Big Show match. The turned something really boring into something really funny and entertaining. Kudos to the crowd for that.

Just nothing really to complain about. Even the Diva's match. Eve is a fuckin' SOLIDER for taking that Top Rope Glam Slam!

Paris9748430 said:

bboy87 said:

Who watched Survivor Series tonight?

I did. Thought it was a really fun show.

Nothing was too bad. Everything was entertaining. Not the best PPV of the year, but a solid 2nd.

I thought the Rock looked pretty good in the ring. Which, really was what the Main Event was about for the most park.

It wasn't really about storylines, or putting people over, or who comes out looking the best.

It was about The Rock shaking off the ring rust before Wrestlemania. I thought he looked good. Obviously, Hollywood doesn't have a Wellness Policy if you know what I mean.

MSG crowd is always special. The crowd chants made this show a lot better, IMO.

Especially during the Mark Henry vs Big Show match. The turned something really boring into something really funny and entertaining. Kudos to the crowd for that.

Just nothing really to complain about. Even the Diva's match. Eve is a fuckin' SOLIDER for taking that Top Rope Glam Slam!

Someone on another forum said "I wonder if Rock and Mason Ryan are sharing the same needle"

I think he looked leaner and outwrestled Cena, who held it down for the most part

Why did Morrison get the US title shot when Ziggler's been having a program with Ryder?

bboy87 said:

Paris9748430 said:

I did. Thought it was a really fun show.

Nothing was too bad. Everything was entertaining. Not the best PPV of the year, but a solid 2nd.

I thought the Rock looked pretty good in the ring. Which, really was what the Main Event was about for the most park.

It wasn't really about storylines, or putting people over, or who comes out looking the best.

It was about The Rock shaking off the ring rust before Wrestlemania. I thought he looked good. Obviously, Hollywood doesn't have a Wellness Policy if you know what I mean.

MSG crowd is always special. The crowd chants made this show a lot better, IMO.

Especially during the Mark Henry vs Big Show match. The turned something really boring into something really funny and entertaining. Kudos to the crowd for that.

Just nothing really to complain about. Even the Diva's match. Eve is a fuckin' SOLIDER for taking that Top Rope Glam Slam!

Someone on another forum said "I wonder if Rock and Mason Ryan are sharing the same needle"

I think he looked leaner and outwrestled Cena, who held it down for the most part

Why did Morrison get the US title shot when Ziggler's been having a program with Ryder?

Yeah, I read that too.

I think Cena's role in the match was to play Ricky Morton and get the hot tag in to the Rock. That's why I say that match really wasn't about Miz, Truth, or Cena.

It was all about The Rock. It was almost like a public workout.

As for Morrison getting a Title Shot instead of Ryder, I have no idea. The crowd was not having it, though.

They pretty much chanted Ryder's name from the beginning of the show until he came out. They completely shit on the match, too.

I definitely think Ryder deserves his time. Part of me thinks the WWE is punishing him for getting over on his own.

The WWE has no problem using him to make money and sell merch. You should really see some of the ugly shit they're selling with Zack Ryder's name and likeness on it.

But, when it comes down to actually pushing him as a wrestler, they won't do it.

Like when the WWE were in Long Island for Raw, Ryder didn't even make an appearance and they were chanting his name all night long.

All they did, was put him on Superstars. Which, he still got a huge pop from the crowd as you can see...

The kid worked hard, let him have his moment.

Paris9748430 said:

bboy87 said:

Who watched Survivor Series tonight?

I did. Thought it was a really fun show.

Nothing was too bad. Everything was entertaining. Not the best PPV of the year, but a solid 2nd.

I thought the Rock looked pretty good in the ring. Which, really was what the Main Event was about for the most park.

It wasn't really about storylines, or putting people over, or who comes out looking the best.

It was about The Rock shaking off the ring rust before Wrestlemania. I thought he looked good. Obviously, Hollywood doesn't have a Wellness Policy if you know what I mean.

MSG crowd is always special. The crowd chants made this show a lot better, IMO.

Especially during the Mark Henry vs Big Show match. The turned something really boring into something really funny and entertaining. Kudos to the crowd for that.

Just nothing really to complain about. Even the Diva's match. Eve is a fuckin' SOLIDER for taking that Top Rope Glam Slam!

When I was living in NYC, I used to go to the garden, and see them wrestle. The Rock looks better in person. Remember Trish Stratus? What happened to her? She did autograph signing at the garden, back in maybe 2002, and I've got one.

angel345 said:

Paris9748430 said:

I did. Thought it was a really fun show.

Nothing was too bad. Everything was entertaining. Not the best PPV of the year, but a solid 2nd.

I thought the Rock looked pretty good in the ring. Which, really was what the Main Event was about for the most park.

It wasn't really about storylines, or putting people over, or who comes out looking the best.

It was about The Rock shaking off the ring rust before Wrestlemania. I thought he looked good. Obviously, Hollywood doesn't have a Wellness Policy if you know what I mean.

MSG crowd is always special. The crowd chants made this show a lot better, IMO.

Especially during the Mark Henry vs Big Show match. The turned something really boring into something really funny and entertaining. Kudos to the crowd for that.

Just nothing really to complain about. Even the Diva's match. Eve is a fuckin' SOLIDER for taking that Top Rope Glam Slam!

When I was living in NYC, I used to go to the garden, and see them wrestle. The Rock looks better in person. Remember Trish Stratus? What happened to her? She did autograph signing at the garden, back in maybe 2002, and I've got one.

Trish retired back in '06 I believe.

Paris9748430 said:

angel345 said:

When I was living in NYC, I used to go to the garden, and see them wrestle. The Rock looks better in person. Remember Trish Stratus? What happened to her? She did autograph signing at the garden, back in maybe 2002, and I've got one.

Trish retired back in '06 I believe.

Ok, thanks.

angel345 said:

Paris9748430 said:

Trish retired back in '06 I believe.

Ok, thanks.

She made a couple of appearances since then though. She wrestled at Wrestlemania 26 in that "match" Snooki participated in

The Rock's promo after Survivor Series.

All right already!! It's time for what everyone's been waiting for. MY opinion of Survivor Series, considering my opinion's the only one that matters here...at least that's what Beth, Nattie, Eve, Miss Tessmacher, and Rosa Mendes told me last night! Suck it, L4OA!!

Anyway, I haven't read about anything just yet, but did Ryder wrestle a dark match? Just seemed like kind of a waste to have him in gear just for that very short appearance with Ziggler (who's VERY quickly becoming one of my favorites in the WWE). The crowd REALLY made this PPV for me. They were so hot for Ryder damn near all night, and I loved how they chanted for Cody Rhodes (dude's been hittin' them weights pretty hard lately), and got very strong Randy Savage chants going! NY definitely knows Savage was the muthafuckin' man!!!!!!

I was sorta surprised Punk beat ADR for the belt. Now I wanna see what he has in store for things since he said he was gonna make the belt interesting again. Let's hope it starts with a new damn belt! That spinner shit is BEYOND tired and old and cheesy! It's basically Cena's belt, and with that design, it just says whoever has it is only temporarily holding it until he feels like he wants it back.

And speakin' of SuperCena, what was up with him no-selling the Rock Bottom?? He rolled out the ring, winced for a little bit, and then got up and walked off. I almost thought that since Punk won the belt that Truth/Miz was gonna win (you know, to have the crowd be happy about something), mainly because of Rock's refusal to help Cena. I wish they had showed a little more friction between the two during the match, but I guess what they did was all right. I will say that Rock's backstage promo went a little too long for my tastes. Or maybe I should say his song went a little too damn long. I almost expected the NY crowd to turn on him and say, "Shut the fuck up, Rocky!" Did anyone hear someone say "That's so gay!" when Miz and Truth did their little high-five move! LMAO! Perfect timing.

Oh, and who else thinks Vince bought shares in Twitter a few weeks ago?? He promotes it almost as much as he does his own damn product! Enough with the trending shit, dammit!!!!! Overall, though, I'll give the event a 6 or a 7. If it wasn't for the great, interactive, and enthusiastic, I-love-heels crowd, it would've dropped a point or two, easy.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

All right already!! It's time for what everyone's been waiting for. MY opinion of Survivor Series, considering my opinion's the only one that matters here...at least that's what Beth, Nattie, Eve, Miss Tessmacher, and Rosa Mendes told me last night! Suck it, L4OA!!

Anyway, I haven't read about anything just yet, but did Ryder wrestle a dark match? Just seemed like kind of a waste to have him in gear just for that very short appearance with Ziggler (who's VERY quickly becoming one of my favorites in the WWE). The crowd REALLY made this PPV for me. They were so hot for Ryder damn near all night, and I loved how they chanted for Cody Rhodes (dude's been hittin' them weights pretty hard lately), and got very strong Randy Savage chants going! NY definitely knows Savage was the muthafuckin' man!!!!!!

I was sorta surprised Punk beat ADR for the belt. Now I wanna see what he has in store for things since he said he was gonna make the belt interesting again. Let's hope it starts with a new damn belt! That spinner shit is BEYOND tired and old and cheesy! It's basically Cena's belt, and with that design, it just says whoever has it is only temporarily holding it until he feels like he wants it back.

And speakin' of SuperCena, what was up with him no-selling the Rock Bottom?? He rolled out the ring, winced for a little bit, and then got up and walked off. I almost thought that since Punk won the belt that Truth/Miz was gonna win (you know, to have the crowd be happy about something), mainly because of Rock's refusal to help Cena. I wish they had showed a little more friction between the two during the match, but I guess what they did was all right. I will say that Rock's backstage promo went a little too long for my tastes. Or maybe I should say his song went a little too damn long. I almost expected the NY crowd to turn on him and say, "Shut the fuck up, Rocky!" Did anyone hear someone say "That's so gay!" when Miz and Truth did their little high-five move! LMAO! Perfect timing.

Oh, and who else thinks Vince bought shares in Twitter a few weeks ago?? He promotes it almost as much as he does his own damn product! Enough with the trending shit, dammit!!!!! Overall, though, I'll give the event a 6 or a 7. If it wasn't for the great, interactive, and enthusiastic, I-love-heels crowd, it would've dropped a point or two, easy.

and can we please get John Laurinatius off the damn show?

I just felt the need to say that

Diva-like attitude from the Rock? Nah, I think they're trying to sow the seeds of another possible feud....I hope.

CM Punk Takes A Few Shots At The Rock

Who else has taken a shot at The Rock? Was it Randy Orton? I know whoever it was needs to shut the fuck up because he's bringing some excitement back to their stale ass product. Not to mention he's helping to put money in THEIR pockets by appearing and helping to increase PPV buyrates.

The Rock Addresses His Critics - Details Inside

A-freakin'-men!!

http://www.chicagotribune...508.column

CM Punk wins WWE Championship, Cutler and broken thumb visit Public House, Jenny McCarthy bartends at Cuvee

CM Punk poses in the awards room at the 2011 Nickelodeon Kid's Choice Awards at the Sydney Entertainment Centre on October 7, 2011 in Sydney, Australia. (Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

Luis Gomez About Last Night

10:26 a.m. CST, November 21, 2011

The day after Lockport native CM Punk won the WWE Championship at the Allstate Arena in mid-July, there were photos on TMZ of Punk celebrating with the title on the streets of Chicago. Not long after that, Punk was appearing on “Jimmy Kimmel Live” and getting interviewed by ESPN’s Bill Simmons.

Unfortunately, there won’t be anywhere close to the same reaction after Punk’s WWE Championship win on Sunday at Madison Square Garden. The buzz surrounding Punk is still strong these days, but nowhere close to where it was -- or where it could’ve been.

Punk had the wrestling world eating out of his tape-covered hands when he appeared to go off script June 27 during an episode of “Monday Night Raw." He revealed that his contract in real life was expiring and vowed to leave the company and take the WWE Championship with him. And like many of us have wanted to do when quitting a job, he told off his boss (Vince McMahon) and a few co-workers (John Cena, Triple H) in the process.

It was exactly the sort of honesty fans wanted to hear during a time when WWE ratings were down and storylines were, at times, stale. It was the kind of story that, as Punk himself pointed out, put WWE back in the mainstream for something other than a wrestler's death. As a result, the interview requests for Punk started pouring in, from GQ to Kimmel to ESPN's Jim Rome. Of course, I also sent an email to Punk, who I've emailed with here and there, but never heard back.

After Punk won the title at the Allstate Arena and ran through the crowd into the parking lot, where a car was waiting for him, know-it-all internet fans were stumped for the first time since I could remember. Few knew what would happen next with Punk or the title.

They got their answer when Punk returned with a new contract less than two weeks later -- barely enough time for WWE fans to feel his absence. Even contestants on "The Bachelorette" who quit the show due to work or family reasons know they need to miss at least 4-5 episodes to make their return mean something. It's just common sense.

WWE's writers only made matters worse by overshadowing Punk's return with storylines revolving around McMahon and his real life son-in-law, Triple H. Punk's spotlight? Gone. Punk's momentum? Gone. Punk's WWE Championship? That too was gone after he lost in mid-August to Alberto Del Rio (He's like The Situation and Scott Disick combined, right down to the gelled hair).

Sure, Punk now has the belt back after Sunday's win, and he did a few interviews last week in New York, including an appearance on "The Opie & Anthony Show" and Sports Illustrated's "Hot Clicks" podcast, but it could be too late. WWE's best storyline in years has already been botched, and many of the casual fans who came back because of Punk have gone back to watching football on Monday's.

As for me, WWE did what no ex-girlfriend could ever get me to do: They got me to stop watching wrestling. I haven't seen "Raw" in nearly two months. That's the longest I've gone without watching since high school. Will I come back? At some point. Maybe even tonight because of Punk's win. But unless things change drastically, I'm going to watch WWE programming from now on the same way I watch every Cubs season: Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

-- John Morrison's original WWE contract has expired. According to a source, he has agreed to an mini-contact extension through the end of the month. This is only a short-term deal for now. More as we get it.

Source: The Wrestling Observer

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Who else has taken a shot at The Rock? Was it Randy Orton? I know whoever it was needs to shut the fuck up because he's bringing some excitement back to their stale ass product. Not to mention he's helping to put money in THEIR pockets by appearing and helping to increase PPV buyrates.

The Rock Addresses His Critics - Details Inside

The Great One responds, "Of course, a few guys have been very vocal about their unhappiness with me coming back. It doesn't bother me at all. It just proves that they lack perspective.

"Returning to WWE is an incredible opportunity for me. But much bigger than me, it's an incredible opportunity for the business and, at the end of the day, all we want to do is elevate WWE to new heights never seen before and make the fans happy. For example, when Hulk Hogan returned to WWE, I loved it, because I knew it was going to be incredible for the business. We made history together and made millions and millions of fans happy.

"Always remember that the ones who were vocal and disapproving about me coming back—and we all know who the two are—are the ones who are most insecure and jealous. Maybe one day they'll smarten up and understand the greater perspective."

Are the two he's referring to Orton and CM Punk? I don't have a problem with him coming back

as long as he lose all the corny as catch phrases and his presidential speeches. I certainly hope

their aren't a bunch of grown ass men following him on twitter. I agree with Punk how could

Rock call someone out when he was actually the sell out. Wasn't Rock's last stint with the WWE

had him as a heel and he spit in Hogan's face. I thought it was funny before that, the match they

had Rock beat Hogan but Hogan won the popularity contest.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Diva-like attitude from the Rock? Nah, I think they're trying to sow the seeds of another possible feud....I hope.

CM Punk Takes A Few Shots At The Rock

CM Punk did an interview with The New York Daily News today and took a few shots at The Rock.

"You know, the thing about that is, he's not around. He's not around. It doesn't help morale when the guy goes right from his limo to the dressing room to the dressing room to the ring. He's very bourgeois Hollywood," Punk said.

When asked whether he thought The Rock had really "returned" to WWE, Punk said: "He came back, he did WWE Raw after that. He said he was never gonna leave. And the next time we saw him is a month later. Yeah, it does bother me. A little hello would have been nice. He could have run by with his own entourage."

Punk then went on to compare his feelings between The Rock and John Cena, saying "I have my beef with John Cena, and I have my things that I don't like Cena, but you know what? I try to tell him everyday. For The Rock to criticize, come on."

When asked if he thought The Rock was a "Diva", he said: "I can't say that. At least the WWE Divas say hi to me in the halls."

Oh shit.That's just as funny as Cena's Tooth Fairy jab.

Damn how did Cena turn Miz and R.Truth against each other?

Am I the only one who is relieved that Cody finally decided to wear kneepads? That laugh he did tonight was lame though

That CM Punk-Ziggler match was really good. Two guys who really work and keep the whole thing interesting

Miz is Diet Jericho

bboy87 said:

Am I the only one who is relieved that Cody finally decided to wear kneepads? That laugh he did tonight was lame though

That CM Punk-Ziggler match was really good. Two guys who really work and keep the whole thing interesting

Miz is Diet Jericho

I'm not watching regular or ppv wrestling again until JERICHO and/or Austin returns. Rock tempted me a bit, glad Punk got the belt. But I've been avoiding both forms of WWF (regular/ppv) until I feel like the company finally gets a GRIP.

[Edited 11/21/11 20:57pm]

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Am I the only one who is relieved that Cody finally decided to wear kneepads? That laugh he did tonight was lame though

That CM Punk-Ziggler match was really good. Two guys who really work and keep the whole thing interesting

Miz is Diet Jericho

I'm not watching regular or ppv wrestling again until JERICHO and/or Austin returns. Rock tempted me a bit, glad Punk got the belt. But I've been avoiding both forms of WWF (regular/ppv) until I feel like the company finally gets a GRIP.

[Edited 11/21/11 20:57pm]

Jericho's not coming back. It looks like talks between him and WWE fell through

Austin says he has one more match in him

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm not watching regular or ppv wrestling again until JERICHO and/or Austin returns. Rock tempted me a bit, glad Punk got the belt. But I've been avoiding both forms of WWF (regular/ppv) until I feel like the company finally gets a GRIP.

[Edited 11/21/11 20:57pm]

Jericho's not coming back. It looks like talks between him and WWE fell through

Austin says he has one more match in him

Yeah I know Jericho won't come back. Wonder if Austin's comeback will come sooner than later.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Who else has taken a shot at The Rock? Was it Randy Orton? I know whoever it was needs to shut the fuck up because he's bringing some excitement back to their stale ass product. Not to mention he's helping to put money in THEIR pockets by appearing and helping to increase PPV buyrates.

The Rock Addresses His Critics - Details Inside

The Great One responds, "Of course, a few guys have been very vocal about their unhappiness with me coming back. It doesn't bother me at all. It just proves that they lack perspective.

"Returning to WWE is an incredible opportunity for me. But much bigger than me, it's an incredible opportunity for the business and, at the end of the day, all we want to do is elevate WWE to new heights never seen before and make the fans happy. For example, when Hulk Hogan returned to WWE, I loved it, because I knew it was going to be incredible for the business. We made history together and made millions and millions of fans happy.

"Always remember that the ones who were vocal and disapproving about me coming back—and we all know who the two are—are the ones who are most insecure and jealous. Maybe one day they'll smarten up and understand the greater perspective."

First off...this interview with WWE mag is kayfabe, for storyline purposes. He's actually referring to Miz and Killings.

Second...Hulk Hogan returning to WWE was not "incredible for business". It was unexpectedly incredible for one night in Canada. Watch the match again...it SUCKED. The crowd response made it awesome. Other than that one night, everything with the nWo return was garbage and fell apart real quick like, seeing as Vince actually thought he could cash in on the nostalgia. He was wrong and Hogan was gone in two shakes of Rikishi's ass. "made millions and millions of fans happy"? Come on, Rocky.

To me, the Rock returning is nothing more than a sign that Vince is desperate. Think about it...without Rock vs. Cena, what kind of a card can WWE put together to draw 60,000-80,000 into a stadium? What are they going to do at the following Wrestlemania?

They are in trouble.

StonedImmaculate said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Who else has taken a shot at The Rock? Was it Randy Orton? I know whoever it was needs to shut the fuck up because he's bringing some excitement back to their stale ass product. Not to mention he's helping to put money in THEIR pockets by appearing and helping to increase PPV buyrates.

First off...this interview with WWE mag is kayfabe, for storyline purposes. He's actually referring to Miz and Killings.

Second...Hulk Hogan returning to WWE was not "incredible for business". It was unexpectedly incredible for one night in Canada. Watch the match again...it SUCKED. The crowd response made it awesome. Other than that one night, everything with the nWo return was garbage and fell apart real quick like, seeing as Vince actually thought he could cash in on the nostalgia. He was wrong and Hogan was gone in two shakes of Rikishi's ass. "made millions and millions of fans happy"? Come on, Rocky.

To me, the Rock returning is nothing more than a sign that Vince is desperate. Think about it...without Rock vs. Cena, what kind of a card can WWE put together to draw 60,000-80,000 into a stadium? What are they going to do at the following Wrestlemania?

They are in trouble.

Exactly. That's partially why I haven't been watching this. Who cares about Rock or Cena?

StonedImmaculate said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Who else has taken a shot at The Rock? Was it Randy Orton? I know whoever it was needs to shut the fuck up because he's bringing some excitement back to their stale ass product. Not to mention he's helping to put money in THEIR pockets by appearing and helping to increase PPV buyrates.

First off...this interview with WWE mag is kayfabe, for storyline purposes. He's actually referring to Miz and Killings.

Second...Hulk Hogan returning to WWE was not "incredible for business". It was unexpectedly incredible for one night in Canada. Watch the match again...it SUCKED. The crowd response made it awesome. Other than that one night, everything with the nWo return was garbage and fell apart real quick like, seeing as Vince actually thought he could cash in on the nostalgia. He was wrong and Hogan was gone in two shakes of Rikishi's ass. "made millions and millions of fans happy"? Come on, Rocky.

To me, the Rock returning is nothing more than a sign that Vince is desperate. Think about it...without Rock vs. Cena, what kind of a card can WWE put together to draw 60,000-80,000 into a stadium? What are they going to do at the following Wrestlemania?

They are in trouble.

Remember when they did the angle was Hogan was wrestling with the mask on and tag teamed with that one legged wrestler?

PAINFUL

I can't really watch most of the 2000-2004 stuff since it's still so fresh in my mind. I've been re-watching alot of the 1992-1999 stuff lately. I've been watching Wrestlemania 11-14 today