HotGritz said:

missfee said:

Well I definitely don't see Cyn and Uncle Ben lasting. I secretly keep wishing that Leon will swoop in, go David Ruffin on Peter and end up back with Cyn.

I can see Phaedra and Apollo together though. I think he genuinely loves her even though his work ethic is in question...and there's no doubt she loves her some Apollo. I do see a risk in that she may grow tired of his quirky work or so-called businesses he's involved in and not understanding them, but time will tell.

Kim and Kroy, I see them together forever. I like the way Kim is being with him. She's right, he definitely grounds her and he appears to not take any shit either.

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AW SHIT!!! Wouldn't that be something? You know their little girl would be all to happy with that. Her face lights up when she sees her daddy. Its too cute.

Plus....

Leon just look better than Peter. I aint sayin' Peter is ugly. I'm just sayin' he aint cute.

I know right, Leon is the poster daddy. I do love to see him interact with his daughter, its so adorable. So we know once Cyn and ole' Pete start having issues (if they aren't already) she going to be telling daddy what's up. But for real, as much as Leon loves his daughter and Cyn, I don't think he would go back to Cyn. Something he said on that episode before the season started, the one about the housewives before they were famous, he was like, he's laid back but Cyn is a worry box, worries too much...so I guess they was like oil and vinegar??? Such a shame, because I think they would otherwise be perfect together. Personally I think Leon forces Cyn to search for a backbone, whereas Peter, he just dominates, which leaves Cyn looking clueless and unsure.

Peter isn't ass ugly, but his attitude makes him ass ugly.

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Okay so read Cyn's blog this morning and I'm a bit She said that she came with no gift to Kim's baby shower because that's the gift that Kim gave to her at her wedding....nothing. I'm like huh? So you still made an appearance at the girl's baby shower with no gift to prove a point? What we playing tit for tat now? Maybe she felt like she was taking the high road, but I think thats really dumb. She also goes into how Kim came to her wedding with her own wine and talked about how she didn't think Cyn and Pete would last a year. Okay, so obviously you bringing this up, you still steaming about it. And if I feel this greatly about what someone said about me like this, then I wouldn't support anything they do, therefore I wouldn't had gone to the baby shower at all. Obviously Kim showed she didn't support her, so I wouldn't had supported Kim...but don't half ass it.

missfee said:

Okay so read Cyn's blog this morning and I'm a bit She said that she came with no gift to Kim's baby shower because that's the gift that Kim gave to her at her wedding....nothing. I'm like huh? So you still made an appearance at the girl's baby shower with no gift to prove a point? What we playing tit for tat now? Maybe she felt like she was taking the high road, but I think thats really dumb. She also goes into how Kim came to her wedding with her own wine and talked about how she didn't think Cyn and Pete would last a year. Okay, so obviously you bringing this up, you still steaming about it. And if I feel this greatly about what someone said about me like this, then I wouldn't support anything they do, therefore I wouldn't had gone to the baby shower at all. Obviously Kim showed she didn't support her, so I wouldn't had supported Kim...but don't half ass it.

to allat.

I didn't read her blog but I caught her on an entertainment show "New York Live" and she basically said exactly the same thing. I'm like "Wow". If you feel like Kim showed you no love and support in your events why dont you be the bigger person and show her how it's done by coming to her event on time and bringing a dazzling gift. Kinda like Lisa did to Sheree with the whole fashion show thing remember? Sheree came late and dressed in sweats or something because she said she had to go to her son's play . But when it was time for Sheree's show, Lisa came on time and dressed to the nines.

Sometimes it's classier to just kill 'em with kindness so to speak. Or like you said just don't be fake and show up when you don't really want to support her.

lavender1983 said:

missfee said:

Okay so read Cyn's blog this morning and I'm a bit She said that she came with no gift to Kim's baby shower because that's the gift that Kim gave to her at her wedding....nothing. I'm like huh? So you still made an appearance at the girl's baby shower with no gift to prove a point? What we playing tit for tat now? Maybe she felt like she was taking the high road, but I think thats really dumb. She also goes into how Kim came to her wedding with her own wine and talked about how she didn't think Cyn and Pete would last a year. Okay, so obviously you bringing this up, you still steaming about it. And if I feel this greatly about what someone said about me like this, then I wouldn't support anything they do, therefore I wouldn't had gone to the baby shower at all. Obviously Kim showed she didn't support her, so I wouldn't had supported Kim...but don't half ass it.

to allat.

I didn't read her blog but I caught her on an entertainment show "New York Live" and she basically said exactly the same thing. I'm like "Wow". If you feel like Kim showed you no love and support in your events why dont you be the bigger person and show her how it's done by coming to her event on time and bringing a dazzling gift. Kinda like Lisa did to Sheree with the whole fashion show thing remember? Sheree came late and dressed in sweats or something because she said she had to go to her son's play . But when it was time for Sheree's show, Lisa came on time and dressed to the nines.

Sometimes it's classier to just kill 'em with kindness so to speak. Or like you said just don't be fake and show up when you don't really want to support her.

Exactly, that would had been another option as well. I'm a firm believer in treating people the way YOU want to be treated. So if she showed up at your wedding (nearly a year ago ) with no gift and you know for a fact she was talking junk about you, why don't you roll up and show that you not fazed and even though she did what she did to you, you not going to go low like that. But Cyn did, so oh well. My thing is, you showed up upteen hours late, with no gift, your grandpa started a ruckus and then y'all roll out like y'all were victims. I guess she feels that she was rectifiying the situation by doing that, but really, she just stepped lower than Kim did towards her.

And Cyn talking out of two sides of her mouth too. Funny how she go on the BRAVO site and post her blog, making points about the other ladies, but she wouldn't dare say that mess to any of their faces. Yeah Phaedra brought up the whole magazine interview thing, but she did it to Peter's face. Cyn wrote in her blog that if Phae had a problem with anything Peter said, she could have called them up and addressed it. Really? Then why didn't Cyn call up Kim and address how she felt she was treated by her when she got married? See what I mean. You can't try to call people out on what they "could have" done when you don't even do it yourself.

missfee said:

lavender1983 said:

to allat.

I didn't read her blog but I caught her on an entertainment show "New York Live" and she basically said exactly the same thing. I'm like "Wow". If you feel like Kim showed you no love and support in your events why dont you be the bigger person and show her how it's done by coming to her event on time and bringing a dazzling gift. Kinda like Lisa did to Sheree with the whole fashion show thing remember? Sheree came late and dressed in sweats or something because she said she had to go to her son's play . But when it was time for Sheree's show, Lisa came on time and dressed to the nines.

Sometimes it's classier to just kill 'em with kindness so to speak. Or like you said just don't be fake and show up when you don't really want to support her.

Exactly, that would had been another option as well. I'm a firm believer in treating people the way YOU want to be treated. So if she showed up at your wedding (nearly a year ago ) with no gift and you know for a fact she was talking junk about you, why don't you roll up and show that you not fazed and even though she did what she did to you, you not going to go low like that. But Cyn did, so oh well. My thing is, you showed up upteen hours late, with no gift, your grandpa started a ruckus and then y'all roll out like y'all were victims. I guess she feels that she was rectifiying the situation by doing that, but really, she just stepped lower than Kim did towards her.

And Cyn talking out of two sides of her mouth too. Funny how she go on the BRAVO site and post her blog, making points about the other ladies, but she wouldn't dare say that mess to any of their faces. Yeah Phaedra brought up the whole magazine interview thing, but she did it to Peter's face. Cyn wrote in her blog that if Phae had a problem with anything Peter said, she could have called them up and addressed it. Really? Then why didn't Cyn call up Kim and address how she felt she was treated by her when she got married? See what I mean. You can't try to call people out on what they "could have" done when you don't even do it yourself.

#Truth. That's what I would do if I happened to be in Cynthia in postion. But that's just me. She's an adult and she's gonna act however she see's fit.

...and precisely. It would be so much easier if people sat together like adults and had conversations about what was bothering them...but then that eliminates drama so....that won't happen Plus she doesn't have the balls.

I have enjoyed reading all this RHoA commentary like you all would not believe!

But lordh'ammercy...I just saw the reunion for Basketball Wives LA...and Jackie Christy

Okay, this is an excert of what she's been saying to the press about the reunion

Jackie says the show is real and so are the situations that occur every Monday, but what is as fake as Gloria Govan’s “tough-guy” act is what happened in Hawaii!

“As for what the girls are doing in Hawaii, that wasn’t real. They really weren’t being upfront or honest about what they were doing and saying. I think the girls know what they’ve done and that all the dishonestly will come back and bite them and I explained over and over again it doesn’t matter what you do and say on TV, you have to address it.”

As for the other ladies being jealous that she and Malaysia being the only married women on the show:

“I would hate to use the word jealous,but I don’t know what else it could be. I think I’m strong willed and determined, I have a path in life and you know maybe that’s what it is. Maybe they’re all still figuring it out. And they’re like who are you to tell me…

Starting out they sung my praises, once it started going and things started coming out, colors started being shown. I can be your best friend or your worst enemy, and I said that. “Don’t cross me!” I don’t know if its jealousy, I hope not.”

Jackie anticipates the reunion, which has already been taped. According to her:
“There will be some explosive information shared at the reunion, VERY BIG. It’s going to be very interesting. I think a lot of people will be shocked. I think a lot of people who swayed one way will probably take a second look at the way they feel or are thinking. I think it’s going to say a whole lot about who we are as people. ”

There is a lot of “he say, she say” going on, but who is actually lying in the “Imani, Laura” situation?
“I really don’t want to knock the other cast members. People are always trying to make each other people look bad and that’s not what I’m here to do. I will just say I am being honest, I was very honest on the show. I don’t have any motives or any reason to make these girls go against each other. My truth is what was said, was said to me! Like I told Laura ‘you said all these things about me that Im overweight but second of all you said my hair was ugly’ and I though we were friends. What I told those girls in Hawaii Is what I said In Their face. They know their truths and on the reunion it is going to be really really surprising”

Why were you all so mean to Draya?

“When I met Draya I adored her, I took her out for Ice Cream. I told her right off the bat that you seem to be combative. I took her under my wing off the bat, I didn’t judge her. When I found out about her and whatever happened with her son it was from one of the other cast members at the pamper party. I tried to tell the girls we’re all here lets all talk about it. I’ve always liked Draya.”

She didn’t look combative to us, what were we all missing?

“I said to them ‘you guys are sitting her being liars, ya’ll are being mean and cruel. We’re here to have fun I was like let’s go.’”

Gloria recently broke up with Matt Barnes, what is your insight on their relationship?

“I think, even on the show it shows that we are good friends. We went out and Matt shared a lot of stuff, Gloria was even touched as well. I’ve known him for about seven years. They are really respectful of one another. I was really shocked with that whole thing. I honestly don’t believe this break-up is permanent. What I think may be wrong is that sometimes you lose that communication and there isn’t that much intimacy where you sit down and really open up to your mate. I would love to advise them on that. Gloria seems like she has everything under control.”

They tried to vote you off on the last episode, were they successful?

“They were like you have to leave the island. I said ‘How can you vote the island off the island. I am the island. You guys dont have any pull. I am the island you guys are playing in my territory.’

There’s a couple of followers in the group, they’re scared to stand up and say ‘I don’t want to do this this isn’t right.’ It’s one of those type of mentalities of the group. It don’t matter if it’s 20 of them I’m going to take you down because you’re wrong.”

On Malaysia:

“I tell Malaysia ‘you’re the last person I want to have beef with. You’ve called me a million of times, you told me you don’t trust any of them’ so for you to sit there now like you are apart of this group all happy–you were the first one to get in a fight with all of them. You need to sit down and fall back!

Lastly:

“I fell like all of them are cooky.’”

this woman is straight Bi-PO-LAAAAR

When you see how crazy she is on this reunion...you can use the link below..

[Edited 11/22/11 8:41am]

Ok I still think Jackie nutty like a payday candy bar but she brought up a good point in that on THE ISLAND () the other women did not confess to any of the comments they were accused of saying. Basically you have Jackie up here whispering to the other women about what's been said about them. She's playing the "she said, she said" game but when she confronts the other women, particularly Draya, and asks flat out "Did you say it or not?" the question is totally avoided. That leaves me to believe they were all talking shit but Jackie just embellished everything. I have a hard time believing this grown ass woman would make up lies.

And um....what's this about Gloria fucking Laura's man Gilbert? Now what now? That's nasty shady trifoolisheness in bacoonery butter sauce!

Kris Humphries Suing Estranged Wife Kim Kardashian For $10 Million?!?!

Posted on November 22nd, 2011 -

By Bossip Staff The bol Kris is like bump that, y’all muhfuggas about to break me off with some paper for this bullshizzz: Kim Kardashian is about to be dealt another blow. Insiders reveal exclusively to Life & Style–on newsstands now–that Kim’s estranged husband Kris Humphries has met with a legal team and is preparing to sue for $10 million. “Kris has a legal team investigating his options,” the insider tells the new issue of Life & Style. “He’s claiming his role on Kourtney & Kim Take New York is bigger than he was told, and that’s why he wants more money. But Kris is also suing because he’s really worried about how badly he’s going to be portrayed on the series.” Life & Style has learned that Kris is particularly concerned about explosive footage of him bullying Kim’s best friend Jonathan Cheban — scenes that stand to tarnish Kris’ wholesome Midwestern image. “Midway through the season, Kris starts bullying Kim’s best friend, Jonathan Cheban, about his sexuality,” shares a Kim pal. “Jonathan isn’t gay, but Kris accuses him of being gay and criticizes him for it in a really homophobic way. Jonathan is really upset.” As is Kim. “Kris used the word ‘gay’ as an insult, to try and hurt Jonathan,” an E! insider tells Life & Style. “He’s the lowest of the low bullying someone like this.” Kris, his family and his friends maintain that much of Kris’ appearance on Kourtney & Kim was scripted — including scenes in which he ponders Jonathan’s sexuality — and that he’s not homophobic. “Little did Kris know that he was being set up,” his father, William Humphries, tells Life & Style exclusively. “Kris got used –100 percent used.” Source More On Bossip!

[Edited 11/22/11 13:04pm]

HotGritz said:

Ok I still think Jackie nutty like a payday candy bar but she brought up a good point in that on THE ISLAND () the other women did not confess to any of the comments they were accused of saying. Basically you have Jackie up here whispering to the other women about what's been said about them. She's playing the "she said, she said" game but when she confronts the other women, particularly Draya, and asks flat out "Did you say it or not?" the question is totally avoided. That leaves me to believe they were all talking shit but Jackie just embellished everything. I have a hard time believing this grown ass woman would make up lies.

And um....what's this about Gloria fucking Laura's man Gilbert? Now what now? That's nasty shady trifoolisheness in bacoonery butter sauce!

But where has she asked any one of them an actual coherent question about a statement they each said about each other? Everything I saw this season had Jackie stirring the pot and running behind everybody's back to start craziness, like some weird "Divide them so they'll fall" tactic to keep herself Queen Bee and center of attention with everybody cozying up to her bosom. Did you see the Hawaii episodes? She was sweatin' bullets like a mofo cause her divide & conquer game was busted I don't have a problem believing she would make up lies considering how we witness her in every episode saying something about someone, then back peddling if not flat out denying what she said, then all her wacky, bi-polar ass "I love you- you're my sister" at 12:30 which turns into "I'mma fuck somebody up- you betta stand down bitch" at 12.32. All she does is talk in circles and swing back and forth on the cuckoo for cocoa-puffs pendulum non-stop...and with all that grandiose rambling on her own superiority to the other women sounds delusional... and makes her look like she has Narcissistic Personality Disorder on top of everything else.

ChitChatter: Peter Thomas Of RHOA Talkin’ Yang And Throwing All Kinds Of Shade At The Other Ladies On The Show Posted on November 23rd, 2011 - By Bossip Staff

Peter Thomas is running his mouth again about those RHOA broads in a new interview with UPTOWN magazine…

On clashing with Apollo: What people see is what it is. I don’t really know Apollo. Apollo felt like he was defending his wife [regarding] the UPTOWN article that I did . . . the article wasn’t about them. The article was about how I felt about what my wife said and what people were saying about, you know, UPTOWN Restaurant and Lounge and that she gave me money to do it and I wanted to set the record straight by saying yes she made a contribution but I didn’t take her wallet to do it.

The real problem with Sheree: She talks about everybody f****ed up all the time, especially my wife. She said my wife is spineless. She said my wife has no backbone. She said my wife follows around NeNe like some little puppy. She says a lot of really f****ed up things and my wife is too much of a classy chick to even go in on that so, when they ask me what I think, because me and my wife is one, I’m gone say how I feel. She thinks she’s cute but I don’t think she’s cute. If she thinks she’s cute, then that’s on her. It’s like when I watched [the show Sunday] night and she said ‘well, I know I’m cute’ and my answer was ‘really.’ It didn’t change how I feel. But all of that was at the top of the year. I just saw Sheree recently after the Soul Train Awards. She came through to bar One and maybe she forgave me or I forgave her. We don’t know. Let’s see what happens next.

About NeNe and her mouth: When I say NeNe is loud, it’s because NeNe got a big ass mouth but I love her. I love her to death. I love her. She’s cool as hell. She’s the realest as far as I’m concerned.

About Kim and her mouth: When I say Kim is crazy as hell, it’s because her mouth is so reckless. All kinds of s**t come out of her mouth. I don’t think they have ever shot Kim without beeping, without beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep, because she talks crazy. That’s how she talks. Read more at Uptownmagazine.com

[Edited 11/23/11 6:31am]

banks said:

ChitChatter: Peter Thomas Of RHOA Talkin’ Yang And Throwing All Kinds Of Shade At The Other Ladies On The Show Posted on November 23rd, 2011 - By Bossip Staff

Peter Thomas is running his mouth again about those RHOA broads in a new interview with UPTOWN magazine…

On clashing with Apollo: What people see is what it is. I don’t really know Apollo. Apollo felt like he was defending his wife [regarding] the UPTOWN article that I did . . . the article wasn’t about them. The article was about how I felt about what my wife said and what people were saying about, you know, UPTOWN Restaurant and Lounge and that she gave me money to do it and I wanted to set the record straight by saying yes she made a contribution but I didn’t take her wallet to do it.

The real problem with Sheree: She talks about everybody f****ed up all the time, especially my wife. She said my wife is spineless. She said my wife has no backbone. She said my wife follows around NeNe like some little puppy. She says a lot of really f****ed up things and my wife is too much of a classy chick to even go in on that so, when they ask me what I think, because me and my wife is one, I’m gone say how I feel. She thinks she’s cute but I don’t think she’s cute. If she thinks she’s cute, then that’s on her. It’s like when I watched [the show Sunday] night and she said ‘well, I know I’m cute’ and my answer was ‘really.’ It didn’t change how I feel. But all of that was at the top of the year. I just saw Sheree recently after the Soul Train Awards. She came through to bar One and maybe she forgave me or I forgave her. We don’t know. Let’s see what happens next.

About NeNe and her mouth: When I say NeNe is loud, it’s because NeNe got a big ass mouth but I love her. I love her to death. I love her. She’s cool as hell. She’s the realest as far as I’m concerned.

About Kim and her mouth: When I say Kim is crazy as hell, it’s because her mouth is so reckless. All kinds of s**t come out of her mouth. I don’t think they have ever shot Kim without beeping, without beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep, because she talks crazy. That’s how she talks. Read more at Uptownmagazine.com

[Edited 11/23/11 6:31am]

Ok Sheree said some "fucked up things about your wife", and you were defending her in your own special way, I get it. But I still don't see what Sheree's looks have to do with it and why he keeps stressing the fact that he thinks she isn't cute. Is this supposed to bother her? And if he did think she was the most beautiful woman walking the face of the earth apart from his wife, would it change what she said about Cynthia?

lavender1983 said:

banks said:

ChitChatter: Peter Thomas Of RHOA Talkin’ Yang And Throwing All Kinds Of Shade At The Other Ladies On The Show Posted on November 23rd, 2011 - By Bossip Staff

Peter Thomas is running his mouth again about those RHOA broads in a new interview with UPTOWN magazine…

On clashing with Apollo: What people see is what it is. I don’t really know Apollo. Apollo felt like he was defending his wife [regarding] the UPTOWN article that I did . . . the article wasn’t about them. The article was about how I felt about what my wife said and what people were saying about, you know, UPTOWN Restaurant and Lounge and that she gave me money to do it and I wanted to set the record straight by saying yes she made a contribution but I didn’t take her wallet to do it.

The real problem with Sheree: She talks about everybody f****ed up all the time, especially my wife. She said my wife is spineless. She said my wife has no backbone. She said my wife follows around NeNe like some little puppy. She says a lot of really f****ed up things and my wife is too much of a classy chick to even go in on that so, when they ask me what I think, because me and my wife is one, I’m gone say how I feel. She thinks she’s cute but I don’t think she’s cute. If she thinks she’s cute, then that’s on her. It’s like when I watched [the show Sunday] night and she said ‘well, I know I’m cute’ and my answer was ‘really.’ It didn’t change how I feel. But all of that was at the top of the year. I just saw Sheree recently after the Soul Train Awards. She came through to bar One and maybe she forgave me or I forgave her. We don’t know. Let’s see what happens next.

About NeNe and her mouth: When I say NeNe is loud, it’s because NeNe got a big ass mouth but I love her. I love her to death. I love her. She’s cool as hell. She’s the realest as far as I’m concerned.

About Kim and her mouth: When I say Kim is crazy as hell, it’s because her mouth is so reckless. All kinds of s**t come out of her mouth. I don’t think they have ever shot Kim without beeping, without beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep, because she talks crazy. That’s how she talks. Read more at Uptownmagazine.com

[Edited 11/23/11 6:31am]

Ok Sheree said some "fucked up things about your wife", and you were defending her in your own special way, I get it. But I still don't see what Sheree's looks have to do with it and why he keeps stressing the fact that he thinks she isn't cute. Is this supposed to bother her? And if he did think she was the most beautiful woman walking the face of the earth apart from his wife, would it change what she said about Cynthia?

Exaclty but first of all, why is Peter still talking about this old shit for? I mean the uptown magazine article happened when, over 6 months ago I'm guessing? So why is he still yapping? Nobody gives a fuck.

And another thing, I notice that both Cynthia and Peter both have said one similar thing, that the other ladies talk about them and everybody else. Umm ALL people talk about things. What they can only talk about other things and not them? If that's the case then maybe THEY BOTH NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP and concentrate on their poser marriage. I guess they would both think that "NeNe is real" since her broke ass posing too. Posers hang close with other posers to keep the fascade up.

missfee said:

lavender1983 said:

Ok Sheree said some "fucked up things about your wife", and you were defending her in your own special way, I get it. But I still don't see what Sheree's looks have to do with it and why he keeps stressing the fact that he thinks she isn't cute. Is this supposed to bother her? And if he did think she was the most beautiful woman walking the face of the earth apart from his wife, would it change what she said about Cynthia?

Exaclty but first of all, why is Peter still talking about this old shit for? I mean the uptown magazine article happened when, over 6 months ago I'm guessing? So why is he still yapping? Nobody gives a fuck.

And another thing, I notice that both Cynthia and Peter both have said one similar thing, that the other ladies talk about them and everybody else. Umm ALL people talk about things. What they can only talk about other things and not them? If that's the case then maybe THEY BOTH NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP and concentrate on their poser marriage. I guess they would both think that "NeNe is real" since her broke ass posing too. Posers hang close with other posers to keep the fascade up.

I'm so over them.

Ottensen said:

I have enjoyed reading all this RHoA commentary like you all would not believe!

But lordh'ammercy...I just saw the reunion for Basketball Wives LA...and Jackie Christy

Okay, this is an excert of what she's been saying to the press about the reunion

Jackie Christie: You Can’t Vote Me Off The Island; “I Am The Island”

Written by Shamika Sanders on November 14, 2011 6:11 pm

If you watch “Basketball Wives LA” you know and understand that reality star Jackie Christie can be a bit aggressive. She has been labeled a devil, liar and lastly- straight crazy!

It could be the way VH1 producers cut and edit certain episodes or it could simply be that she is exactly what people call her.

I spoke with Jackie and though she appears to be conniving and so self-centered that she has to get married every year to husband Doug Christie, she is just the same as the rest of the Basketball Wives– a character trapped in “reality TV land.” It is there, where not-basketball wives criticize groupies and pit each other again one another until one lucky lady becomes an outcast on which the rest of the tribe will prey for amusement.

Jackie says the show is real and so are the situations that occur every Monday, but what is as fake as Gloria Govan’s “tough-guy” act is what happened in Hawaii!

We’ve seen it with Draya, then Laura and now Jackie (so excuse me if I sound biased!).

“As for what the girls are doing in Hawaii, that wasn’t real. They really weren’t being upfront or honest about what they were doing and saying. I think the girls know what they’ve done and that all the dishonestly will come back and bite them and I explained over and over again it doesn’t matter what you do and say on TV, you have to address it.”

As for the other ladies being jealous that she and Malaysia being the only married women on the show:

“I would hate to use the word jealous,but I don’t know what else it could be. I think I’m strong willed and determined, I have a path in life and you know maybe that’s what it is. Maybe they’re all still figuring it out. And they’re like who are you to tell me…

Starting out they sung my praises, once it started going and things started coming out, colors started being shown. I can be your best friend or your worst enemy, and I said that. “Don’t cross me!” I don’t know if its jealousy, I hope not.”

Jackie anticipates the reunion, which has already been taped. According to her:
“There will be some explosive information shared at the reunion, VERY BIG. It’s going to be very interesting. I think a lot of people will be shocked. I think a lot of people who swayed one way will probably take a second look at the way they feel or are thinking. I think it’s going to say a whole lot about who we are as people. ”

There is a lot of “he say, she say” going on, but who is actually lying in the “Imani, Laura” situation?
“I really don’t want to knock the other cast members. People are always trying to make each other people look bad and that’s not what I’m here to do. I will just say I am being honest, I was very honest on the show. I don’t have any motives or any reason to make these girls go against each other. My truth is what was said, was said to me! Like I told Laura ‘you said all these things about me that Im overweight but second of all you said my hair was ugly’ and I though we were friends. What I told those girls in Hawaii Is what I said In Their face. They know their truths and on the reunion it is going to be really really surprising”

Why were you all so mean to Draya?

“When I met Draya I adored her, I took her out for Ice Cream. I told her right off the bat that you seem to be combative. I took her under my wing off the bat, I didn’t judge her. When I found out about her and whatever happened with her son it was from one of the other cast members at the pamper party. I tried to tell the girls we’re all here lets all talk about it. I’ve always liked Draya.”

She didn’t look combative to us, what were we all missing?

“I said to them ‘you guys are sitting her being liars, ya’ll are being mean and cruel. We’re here to have fun I was like let’s go.’”

Gloria recently broke up with Matt Barnes, what is your insight on their relationship?

“I think, even on the show it shows that we are good friends. We went out and Matt shared a lot of stuff, Gloria was even touched as well. I’ve known him for about seven years. They are really respectful of one another. I was really shocked with that whole thing. I honestly don’t believe this break-up is permanent. What I think may be wrong is that sometimes you lose that communication and there isn’t that much intimacy where you sit down and really open up to your mate. I would love to advise them on that. Gloria seems like she has everything under control.”

They tried to vote you off on the last episode, were they successful?

“They were like you have to leave the island. I said ‘How can you vote the island off the island. I am the island. You guys dont have any pull. I am the island you guys are playing in my territory.’

There’s a couple of followers in the group, they’re scared to stand up and say ‘I don’t want to do this this isn’t right.’ It’s one of those type of mentalities of the group. It don’t matter if it’s 20 of them I’m going to take you down because you’re wrong.”

On Malaysia:

“I tell Malaysia ‘you’re the last person I want to have beef with. You’ve called me a million of times, you told me you don’t trust any of them’ so for you to sit there now like you are apart of this group all happy–you were the first one to get in a fight with all of them. You need to sit down and fall back!

Lastly:

“I fell like all of them are cooky.’”

this woman is straight Bi-PO-LAAAAR

When you see how crazy she is on this reunion...you can use the link below..

http://www.sockshare.com/file/D5BED3FE630B2EEE#

[Edited 11/22/11 8:41am]

LMAO at this photoshopped pic trying to make the self proclaimed island

look cute.

I only watched a little of Atlanta Housewives because of Kandi. She's not perfect

either but she seems to be more genuine than others. I just can't stand to even

hear big bird(NeNe)talk. It would be nice if they put Jackie and NeNe in a cage

together and let those two pirannas tear each other from limb to limb.

God bless Doug Christie. I know his ass got to have a drink everyday before he

go home to that shit.

[Edited 11/23/11 14:59pm]

lavender1983 said:

missfee said:

Exaclty but first of all, why is Peter still talking about this old shit for? I mean the uptown magazine article happened when, over 6 months ago I'm guessing? So why is he still yapping? Nobody gives a fuck.

And another thing, I notice that both Cynthia and Peter both have said one similar thing, that the other ladies talk about them and everybody else. Umm ALL people talk about things. What they can only talk about other things and not them? If that's the case then maybe THEY BOTH NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP and concentrate on their poser marriage. I guess they would both think that "NeNe is real" since her broke ass posing too. Posers hang close with other posers to keep the fascade up.

I'm so over them.

Did you see Cynthia on Wendy today? Gotta love Wendy! She proclaimed that she couldn't stand Peter and that she didn't have a problem with Cyn's and NeNe's friendship, but she was like, that Peter got a problem. When Wendy told Cyn that she feels like she comes off like she doesn't have a backbone Cynthia went straight into the same ole spill "Well the other ladies have said horrible things about us and the reason why I was late to the shower was because I had a job to do, unlike some of the other ladies, and I had just flew in so Kim's shower wasn't the biggest priority to me. And besides that, Kim didn't even bring me a gift to my wedding". Wendy spoke exactly what I was thinking...which was "So if you was still bothered by Kim not bringing you a gift for your wedding then shouldn't had water been under bridge by then? Why would still go to the shower and still not bring gift?" I was like Cynthia's response? "Well I was still mad". Petty shit.

phunkdaddy said:

I just can't stand to even

hear big bird(NeNe)talk. It would be nice if they put Jackie and NeNe in a cage

together and let those two pirannas tear each other from limb to limb.

God bless Doug Christie. I know his ass got to have a drink everyday before he

go home to that shit.

[Edited 11/23/11 14:59pm]

Just the thought of that....

......and you ain't neva lied

missfee said:

lavender1983 said:

I'm so over them.

Did you see Cynthia on Wendy today? Gotta love Wendy! She proclaimed that she couldn't stand Peter and that she didn't have a problem with Cyn's and NeNe's friendship, but she was like, that Peter got a problem. When Wendy told Cyn that she feels like she comes off like she doesn't have a backbone Cynthia went straight into the same ole spill "Well the other ladies have said horrible things about us and the reason why I was late to the shower was because I had a job to do, unlike some of the other ladies, and I had just flew in so Kim's shower wasn't the biggest priority to me. And besides that, Kim didn't even bring me a gift to my wedding". Wendy spoke exactly what I was thinking...which was "So if you was still bothered by Kim not bringing you a gift for your wedding then shouldn't had water been under bridge by then? Why would still go to the shower and still not bring gift?" I was like Cynthia's response? "Well I was still mad". Petty shit.

Girl I caught the reruns Say what you want about Wendy but the bitch tells it like it is

She straight up called her stupid many times on the show. Even compared her to a deer. Pretty but dumber than a box of rocks. So I was looking forward to this sit-down.

She just need stop talking because she just sounds dumber and even more childish when she attempts to explain herself. Come on Cynthia

...and I straight up when she said that. Petty indeed.

Ottensen said:

I have enjoyed reading all this RHoA commentary like you all would not believe!

But lordh'ammercy...I just saw the reunion for Basketball Wives LA...and Jackie Christy

Okay, this is an excert of what she's been saying to the press about the reunion

Jackie Christie: You Can’t Vote Me Off The Island; “I Am The Island”

Written by Shamika Sanders on November 14, 2011 6:11 pm

If you watch “Basketball Wives LA” you know and understand that reality star Jackie Christie can be a bit aggressive. She has been labeled a devil, liar and lastly- straight crazy!

It could be the way VH1 producers cut and edit certain episodes or it could simply be that she is exactly what people call her.

I spoke with Jackie and though she appears to be conniving and so self-centered that she has to get married every year to husband Doug Christie, she is just the same as the rest of the Basketball Wives– a character trapped in “reality TV land.” It is there, where not-basketball wives criticize groupies and pit each other again one another until one lucky lady becomes an outcast on which the rest of the tribe will prey for amusement.

Jackie says the show is real and so are the situations that occur every Monday, but what is as fake as Gloria Govan’s “tough-guy” act is what happened in Hawaii!

We’ve seen it with Draya, then Laura and now Jackie (so excuse me if I sound biased!).

“As for what the girls are doing in Hawaii, that wasn’t real. They really weren’t being upfront or honest about what they were doing and saying. I think the girls know what they’ve done and that all the dishonestly will come back and bite them and I explained over and over again it doesn’t matter what you do and say on TV, you have to address it.”

As for the other ladies being jealous that she and Malaysia being the only married women on the show:

“I would hate to use the word jealous,but I don’t know what else it could be. I think I’m strong willed and determined, I have a path in life and you know maybe that’s what it is. Maybe they’re all still figuring it out. And they’re like who are you to tell me…

Starting out they sung my praises, once it started going and things started coming out, colors started being shown. I can be your best friend or your worst enemy, and I said that. “Don’t cross me!” I don’t know if its jealousy, I hope not.”

Jackie anticipates the reunion, which has already been taped. According to her:
“There will be some explosive information shared at the reunion, VERY BIG. It’s going to be very interesting. I think a lot of people will be shocked. I think a lot of people who swayed one way will probably take a second look at the way they feel or are thinking. I think it’s going to say a whole lot about who we are as people. ”

There is a lot of “he say, she say” going on, but who is actually lying in the “Imani, Laura” situation?
“I really don’t want to knock the other cast members. People are always trying to make each other people look bad and that’s not what I’m here to do. I will just say I am being honest, I was very honest on the show. I don’t have any motives or any reason to make these girls go against each other. My truth is what was said, was said to me! Like I told Laura ‘you said all these things about me that Im overweight but second of all you said my hair was ugly’ and I though we were friends. What I told those girls in Hawaii Is what I said In Their face. They know their truths and on the reunion it is going to be really really surprising”

Why were you all so mean to Draya?

“When I met Draya I adored her, I took her out for Ice Cream. I told her right off the bat that you seem to be combative. I took her under my wing off the bat, I didn’t judge her. When I found out about her and whatever happened with her son it was from one of the other cast members at the pamper party. I tried to tell the girls we’re all here lets all talk about it. I’ve always liked Draya.”

She didn’t look combative to us, what were we all missing?

“I said to them ‘you guys are sitting her being liars, ya’ll are being mean and cruel. We’re here to have fun I was like let’s go.’”

Gloria recently broke up with Matt Barnes, what is your insight on their relationship?

“I think, even on the show it shows that we are good friends. We went out and Matt shared a lot of stuff, Gloria was even touched as well. I’ve known him for about seven years. They are really respectful of one another. I was really shocked with that whole thing. I honestly don’t believe this break-up is permanent. What I think may be wrong is that sometimes you lose that communication and there isn’t that much intimacy where you sit down and really open up to your mate. I would love to advise them on that. Gloria seems like she has everything under control.”

They tried to vote you off on the last episode, were they successful?

“They were like you have to leave the island. I said ‘How can you vote the island off the island. I am the island. You guys dont have any pull. I am the island you guys are playing in my territory.’

There’s a couple of followers in the group, they’re scared to stand up and say ‘I don’t want to do this this isn’t right.’ It’s one of those type of mentalities of the group. It don’t matter if it’s 20 of them I’m going to take you down because you’re wrong.”

On Malaysia:

“I tell Malaysia ‘you’re the last person I want to have beef with. You’ve called me a million of times, you told me you don’t trust any of them’ so for you to sit there now like you are apart of this group all happy–you were the first one to get in a fight with all of them. You need to sit down and fall back!

Lastly:

“I fell like all of them are cooky.’”

this woman is straight Bi-PO-LAAAAR

When you see how crazy she is on this reunion...you can use the link below..

http://www.sockshare.com/file/D5BED3FE630B2EEE#

[Edited 11/22/11 8:41am]

COT DAMN! That's one hell of a photoshop job right there!

So here we go with another epi of RHOA:

I think it was nice of Phaedra to go over to Kim's with a gift and an apology on behalf of how her husband acted at the baby shower. Like Kim said, she could appreciate that, especially since she hadn't even heard from Cynthia. I don't know what's up with Cynthia these days because she's coming to be very tacky, but more on her later. I'm really liking Phaedra this season. With the exception of the funeral thing, she seems to be a lot of fun.

NeNe is really smelling herself too much. Did dick from Gregg make her that damn stuck up for real? She has really done a dramatic change since season 1 because I don't remember her being THIS annoying, or stuck up. Every episode this season so far NeNe has been name dropping fashion designers, constantly talking about money, and constantly referring to either before, during or after she was on the "Apprentice" show. This broad seems to keep conveniently leaving out the fact that she QUIT the fucking "Apprentice" show. Yes bitch, you quit. That means you didn't have what it took to see it through. This means that you couldn't handle it. So if the damn show was making you as much money as you claim, then why did your punk ass QUIT???!!! Can somebody knock that shit upside that moose's big head? And did I sense jealously on NeNe's part when Kandi was talking about Kim and Kroy? Yeah I think I did.

As far as Kandi's birthday party goes, I think its nice that her, Phaedra and Sheree get along (for right now at least). Let's talk about the stripper "RiDICKulous". Now for me, I wouldn't had been offended by the stripper. I don't see why NeNe, Cynthia and Peter were all looking like they were too good to have a little fun. Maybe Peter, him being a guy and all, but still, like Kandi said, NeNe and Cyn were acting like "old fogies". But as usual, when NeNe says "let's go" her flunkies, Cyn and Peter must follow and surely they did. They could have at least said bye to Kandi though and let them know they were leaving. That was really rude. It wasn't Kandi's idea to have the stripper. And I was so surprised by mama Joyce's reaction as well. If she can sit around and talk about dildo's and other sexual activites with her daughter and her friends, then why was this stripper so damn offensive to her? I really didn't get that one. Anywho, my thing is this, that party was an ADULT party for a woman who was turning 35. This wasn't a 5 year old, little kids party. Now I will say that maybe an announcement of some kind should had been made before the stripper was brought out...something like "this next event is for mature ladies only". So that at least the men who didn't want to be apart of that could have gone to another area or something. But as for mama Joyce, yeah she needed to go, I just hated that she basically ruined it for Kandi on her birthday because then Kandi was all worried about her instead of having fun. I swear, sometimes, older folks can be really contradictive.

Now as for Sheree and that house. Is she kidding me? I mean yes Phaedra is right, those building contractors can be some sneaky asses, but the question remains, how is Sheree paying for this mess?

And how in the hell did Lawrence outdo Derek? As outraegous as Lawrence looked, I have to give it to him, he put time and effort into his appearance. Derek? Hmm, he looked like it took all of 2 minutes to throw together that trifling outfit he had on. How in the world do your fat ass wear a tank top with high heels to a party? Like the heels were going to excuse and make us forget that trifling tank top? Tacky.

Last but not least, Cynthia and sister and Peter. Gosh, I'm really not feeling Peter at all. Is it me or is he acting so damn girly? How in the world does a man say "you ruined my day. Our day was supposed to had been perfect but you ruined it". Huh? You still got married fool. Why aren't you concentrating on the parts where your future wife made a grand entrance, you two said your vows and you all were pronounced husband and wife? Why are you focusing on what her sister and her mother did when they didn't even go through with it? Don't get me wrong, yes Peter and Cynthia had every right to be angry with them, but its time to be over it and make things right. Her sister has at the very least, explained her role and side of it, but she's made it clear, she's not going to apologize for it. So why can't they just drop it already? Now as far as Cyn's sister getting up in her biz about giving Peter money for his, yet another, Bar/club venture...umm I think she need to stay out of that. But why do I get this irking feeling that maybe Cyn borrowed money from her to give to Peter when that whole Uptown thing happened and that's why she be bringing it up? And yes, Cyn does get extremely defensive if you say anything about her and Peter's relationship/marriage. That's very telling. Who is she trying to convince? Others or herself that she did the right thing by marrying him?

Well according to next week's epi, looks like Cyn will be possibly taking more of her money to help Peter, once again. And again, I know as a wife, its her duty to help her husband, but it just looks like she married a broke ass Papa Smurf. Just sayin'.

[Edited 11/28/11 4:58am]

missfee said:

So here we go with another epi of RHOA:

I think it was nice of Phaedra to go over to Kim's with a gift and an apology on behalf of how her husband acted at the baby shower. Like Kim said, she could appreciate that, especially since she hadn't even heard from Cynthia. I don't know what's up with Cynthia these days because she's coming to be very tacky, but more on her later. I'm really liking Phaedra this season. With the exception of the funeral thing, she seems to be a lot of fun.

NeNe is really smelling herself too much. Did dick from Gregg make her that damn stuck up for real? She has really done a dramatic change since season 1 because I don't remember her being THIS annoying, or stuck up. Every episode this season so far NeNe has been name dropping fashion designers, constantly talking about money, and constantly referring to either before, during or after she was on the "Apprentice" show. This broad seems to keep conveniently leaving out the fact that she QUIT the fucking "Apprentice" show. Yes bitch, you quit. That means you didn't have what it took to see it through. This means that you couldn't handle it. So if the damn show was making you as much money as you claim, then why did your punk ass QUIT???!!! Can somebody knock that shit upside that moose's big head? And did I sense jealously on NeNe's part when Kandi was talking about Kim and Kroy? Yeah I think I did.

As far as Kandi's birthday party goes, I think its nice that her, Phaedra and Sheree get along (for right now at least). Let's talk about the stripper "RiDICKulous". Now for me, I wouldn't had been offended by the stripper. I don't see why NeNe, Cynthia and Peter were all looking like they were too good to have a little fun. Maybe Peter, him being a guy and all, but still, like Kandi said, NeNe and Cyn were acting like "old fogies". But as usual, when NeNe says "let's go" her flunkies, Cyn and Peter must follow and surely they did. They could have at least said bye to Kandi though and let them know they were leaving. That was really rude. It wasn't Kandi's idea to have the stripper. And I was so surprised by mama Joyce's reaction as well. If she can sit around and talk about dildo's and other sexual activites with her daughter and her friends, then why was this stripper so damn offensive to her? I really didn't get that one. Anywho, my thing is this, that party was an ADULT party for a woman who was turning 35. This wasn't a 5 year old, little kids party. Now I will say that maybe an announcement of some kind should had been made before the stripper was brought out...something like "this next event is for mature ladies only". So that at least the men who didn't want to be apart of that could have gone to another area or something. But as for mama Joyce, yeah she needed to go, I just hated that she basically ruined it for Kandi on her birthday because then Kandi was all worried about her instead of having fun. I swear, sometimes, older folks can be really contradictive.

Now as for Sheree and that house. Is she kidding me? I mean yes Phaedra is right, those building contractors can be some sneaky asses, but the question remains, how is Sheree paying for this mess?

And how in the hell did Lawrence outdo Derek? As outraegous as Lawrence looked, I have to give it to him, he put time and effort into his appearance. Derek? Hmm, he looked like it took all of 2 minutes to throw together that trifling outfit he had on. How in the world do your fat ass wear a tank top with high heels to a party? Like the heels were going to excuse and make us forget that trifling tank top? Tacky.

Last but not least, Cynthia and sister and Peter. Gosh, I'm really not feeling Peter at all. Is it me or is he acting so damn girly? How in the world does a man say "you ruined my day. Our day was supposed to had been perfect but you ruined it". Huh? You still got married fool. Why aren't you concentrating on the parts where your future wife made a grand entrance, you two said your vows and you all were pronounced husband and wife? Why are you focusing on what her sister and her mother did when they didn't even go through with it? Don't get me wrong, yes Peter and Cynthia had every right to be angry with them, but its time to be over it and make things right. Her sister has at the very least, explained her role and side of it, but she's made it clear, she's not going to apologize for it. So why can't they just drop it already? Now as far as Cyn's sister getting up in her biz about giving Peter money for his, yet another, Bar/club venture...umm I think she need to stay out of that. But why do I get this irking feeling that maybe Cyn borrowed money from her to give to Peter when that whole Uptown thing happened and that's why she be bringing it up? And yes, Cyn does get extremely defensive if you say anything about her and Peter's relationship/marriage. That's very telling. Who is she trying to convince? Others or herself that she did the right thing by marrying him?

Well according to next week's epi, looks like Cyn will be possibly taking more of her money to help Peter, once again. And again, I know as a wife, its her duty to help her husband, but it just looks like she married a broke ass Papa Smurf. Just sayin'.

[Edited 11/28/11 4:58am]

I normally just read the recaps from you guys. but just wanted to comment on a few things:

As far as Miss Joyce and being offended at the stripper. I think she was offended because it was a mixed party, not just girls getting together. I think she was uncomfortable that there were husbands, and boyfriends there for the "show".

As to the Cynthia and Peter thing. I think the guy is bad news. When Leon was at their house last episode and they were talking about the new bar, he specifically asked if Cyn was fronting money for the new bar by asking if they were partners in the new venture. Leon looked like: 'please tell me you are not fronting for this dude on another business when he just had one that failed, that you also fronted him money for.' Cyn quickly said no. Now Peter needs $40K to start Bar One. I'm sorry but isn't Cyn trying to start a modeling agency or whatever, and now she's giving Peter $$ for his venture? Please. Husband or not, he is now digging into her wallet once again when he knows she's trying to get her business off the ground.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

missfee said:

So here we go with another epi of RHOA:

I think it was nice of Phaedra to go over to Kim's with a gift and an apology on behalf of how her husband acted at the baby shower. Like Kim said, she could appreciate that, especially since she hadn't even heard from Cynthia. I don't know what's up with Cynthia these days because she's coming to be very tacky, but more on her later. I'm really liking Phaedra this season. With the exception of the funeral thing, she seems to be a lot of fun.

NeNe is really smelling herself too much. Did dick from Gregg make her that damn stuck up for real? She has really done a dramatic change since season 1 because I don't remember her being THIS annoying, or stuck up. Every episode this season so far NeNe has been name dropping fashion designers, constantly talking about money, and constantly referring to either before, during or after she was on the "Apprentice" show. This broad seems to keep conveniently leaving out the fact that she QUIT the fucking "Apprentice" show. Yes bitch, you quit. That means you didn't have what it took to see it through. This means that you couldn't handle it. So if the damn show was making you as much money as you claim, then why did your punk ass QUIT???!!! Can somebody knock that shit upside that moose's big head? And did I sense jealously on NeNe's part when Kandi was talking about Kim and Kroy? Yeah I think I did.

As far as Kandi's birthday party goes, I think its nice that her, Phaedra and Sheree get along (for right now at least). Let's talk about the stripper "RiDICKulous". Now for me, I wouldn't had been offended by the stripper. I don't see why NeNe, Cynthia and Peter were all looking like they were too good to have a little fun. Maybe Peter, him being a guy and all, but still, like Kandi said, NeNe and Cyn were acting like "old fogies". But as usual, when NeNe says "let's go" her flunkies, Cyn and Peter must follow and surely they did. They could have at least said bye to Kandi though and let them know they were leaving. That was really rude. It wasn't Kandi's idea to have the stripper. And I was so surprised by mama Joyce's reaction as well. If she can sit around and talk about dildo's and other sexual activites with her daughter and her friends, then why was this stripper so damn offensive to her? I really didn't get that one. Anywho, my thing is this, that party was an ADULT party for a woman who was turning 35. This wasn't a 5 year old, little kids party. Now I will say that maybe an announcement of some kind should had been made before the stripper was brought out...something like "this next event is for mature ladies only". So that at least the men who didn't want to be apart of that could have gone to another area or something. But as for mama Joyce, yeah she needed to go, I just hated that she basically ruined it for Kandi on her birthday because then Kandi was all worried about her instead of having fun. I swear, sometimes, older folks can be really contradictive.

Now as for Sheree and that house. Is she kidding me? I mean yes Phaedra is right, those building contractors can be some sneaky asses, but the question remains, how is Sheree paying for this mess?

And how in the hell did Lawrence outdo Derek? As outraegous as Lawrence looked, I have to give it to him, he put time and effort into his appearance. Derek? Hmm, he looked like it took all of 2 minutes to throw together that trifling outfit he had on. How in the world do your fat ass wear a tank top with high heels to a party? Like the heels were going to excuse and make us forget that trifling tank top? Tacky.

Last but not least, Cynthia and sister and Peter. Gosh, I'm really not feeling Peter at all. Is it me or is he acting so damn girly? How in the world does a man say "you ruined my day. Our day was supposed to had been perfect but you ruined it". Huh? You still got married fool. Why aren't you concentrating on the parts where your future wife made a grand entrance, you two said your vows and you all were pronounced husband and wife? Why are you focusing on what her sister and her mother did when they didn't even go through with it? Don't get me wrong, yes Peter and Cynthia had every right to be angry with them, but its time to be over it and make things right. Her sister has at the very least, explained her role and side of it, but she's made it clear, she's not going to apologize for it. So why can't they just drop it already? Now as far as Cyn's sister getting up in her biz about giving Peter money for his, yet another, Bar/club venture...umm I think she need to stay out of that. But why do I get this irking feeling that maybe Cyn borrowed money from her to give to Peter when that whole Uptown thing happened and that's why she be bringing it up? And yes, Cyn does get extremely defensive if you say anything about her and Peter's relationship/marriage. That's very telling. Who is she trying to convince? Others or herself that she did the right thing by marrying him?

Well according to next week's epi, looks like Cyn will be possibly taking more of her money to help Peter, once again. And again, I know as a wife, its her duty to help her husband, but it just looks like she married a broke ass Papa Smurf. Just sayin'.

[Edited 11/28/11 4:58am]

I normally just read the recaps from you guys. but just wanted to comment on a few things:

As far as Miss Joyce and being offended at the stripper. I think she was offended because it was a mixed party, not just girls getting together. I think she was uncomfortable that there were husbands, and boyfriends there for the "show".

As to the Cynthia and Peter thing. I think the guy is bad news. When Leon was at their house last episode and they were talking about the new bar, he specifically asked if Cyn was fronting money for the new bar by asking if they were partners in the new venture. Leon looked like: 'please tell me you are not fronting for this dude on another business when he just had one that failed, that you also fronted him money for.' Cyn quickly said no. Now Peter needs $40K to start Bar One. I'm sorry but isn't Cyn trying to start a modeling agency or whatever, and now she's giving Peter $$ for his venture? Please. Husband or not, he is now digging into her wallet once again when he knows she's trying to get her business off the ground.

I'm in agreeance with you. She shouldn't have to keep bailing him out of his failed business ventures when he doesn't have enough money (or RELIABLE investors) to help get his business off the ground when she's trying to do the same for her own business. It's a lack of consideration on his part but she should also have the balls and the backbone to tell him no. But I know she's going to fall back on that and use the "well I'm his wife and I'm obligated to help him out. That's what couples do." And I get that, but he should have learned from when this happened the first time and therefore, in this case, there's nothing wrong with her telling him no, she's not going to lend him the money this time.

missfee said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I normally just read the recaps from you guys. but just wanted to comment on a few things:

As far as Miss Joyce and being offended at the stripper. I think she was offended because it was a mixed party, not just girls getting together. I think she was uncomfortable that there were husbands, and boyfriends there for the "show".

As to the Cynthia and Peter thing. I think the guy is bad news. When Leon was at their house last episode and they were talking about the new bar, he specifically asked if Cyn was fronting money for the new bar by asking if they were partners in the new venture. Leon looked like: 'please tell me you are not fronting for this dude on another business when he just had one that failed, that you also fronted him money for.' Cyn quickly said no. Now Peter needs $40K to start Bar One. I'm sorry but isn't Cyn trying to start a modeling agency or whatever, and now she's giving Peter $$ for his venture? Please. Husband or not, he is now digging into her wallet once again when he knows she's trying to get her business off the ground.

I'm in agreeance with you. She shouldn't have to keep bailing him out of his failed business ventures when he doesn't have enough money (or RELIABLE investors) to help get his business off the ground when she's trying to do the same for her own business. It's a lack of consideration on his part but she should also have the balls and the backbone to tell him no. But I know she's going to fall back on that and use the "well I'm his wife and I'm obligated to help him out. That's what couples do." And I get that, but he should have learned from when this happened the first time and therefore, in this case, there's nothing wrong with her telling him no, she's not going to lend him the money this time.

Bottom line, Peter comes off as a selfish, mofo.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

missfee said:

I'm in agreeance with you. She shouldn't have to keep bailing him out of his failed business ventures when he doesn't have enough money (or RELIABLE investors) to help get his business off the ground when she's trying to do the same for her own business. It's a lack of consideration on his part but she should also have the balls and the backbone to tell him no. But I know she's going to fall back on that and use the "well I'm his wife and I'm obligated to help him out. That's what couples do." And I get that, but he should have learned from when this happened the first time and therefore, in this case, there's nothing wrong with her telling him no, she's not going to lend him the money this time.

Bottom line, Peter comes off as a selfish, mofo.

Did you notice how unfinished the bar/club was when Cyn walked in with her sister? Did I hear it correctly when Cyn's sister asked Peter when it was going to be finished, opening up or whatever and he said a week or two? Ummm....I think it would be more than a week or two.

missfee said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Bottom line, Peter comes off as a selfish, mofo.

Did you notice how unfinished the bar/club was when Cyn walked in with her sister? Did I hear it correctly when Cyn's sister asked Peter when it was going to be finished, opening up or whatever and he said a week or two? Ummm....I think it would be more than a week or two.

I missed that part I was switching back and forth from the Steelers game. BUT, I did see the later part when Cyn was trying to put together those chairs with Mal and her husband. And yes the place didn't look anywhere near to being presentable for opening in two weeks.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

missfee said:

I'm in agreeance with you. She shouldn't have to keep bailing him out of his failed business ventures when he doesn't have enough money (or RELIABLE investors) to help get his business off the ground when she's trying to do the same for her own business. It's a lack of consideration on his part but she should also have the balls and the backbone to tell him no. But I know she's going to fall back on that and use the "well I'm his wife and I'm obligated to help him out. That's what couples do." And I get that, but he should have learned from when this happened the first time and therefore, in this case, there's nothing wrong with her telling him no, she's not going to lend him the money this time.

Bottom line, Peter comes off as a selfish, mofo.

And don't forget controlling.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

missfee said:

So here we go with another epi of RHOA:

I think it was nice of Phaedra to go over to Kim's with a gift and an apology on behalf of how her husband acted at the baby shower. Like Kim said, she could appreciate that, especially since she hadn't even heard from Cynthia. I don't know what's up with Cynthia these days because she's coming to be very tacky, but more on her later. I'm really liking Phaedra this season. With the exception of the funeral thing, she seems to be a lot of fun.

NeNe is really smelling herself too much. Did dick from Gregg make her that damn stuck up for real? She has really done a dramatic change since season 1 because I don't remember her being THIS annoying, or stuck up. Every episode this season so far NeNe has been name dropping fashion designers, constantly talking about money, and constantly referring to either before, during or after she was on the "Apprentice" show. This broad seems to keep conveniently leaving out the fact that she QUIT the fucking "Apprentice" show. Yes bitch, you quit. That means you didn't have what it took to see it through. This means that you couldn't handle it. So if the damn show was making you as much money as you claim, then why did your punk ass QUIT???!!! Can somebody knock that shit upside that moose's big head? And did I sense jealously on NeNe's part when Kandi was talking about Kim and Kroy? Yeah I think I did.

As far as Kandi's birthday party goes, I think its nice that her, Phaedra and Sheree get along (for right now at least). Let's talk about the stripper "RiDICKulous". Now for me, I wouldn't had been offended by the stripper. I don't see why NeNe, Cynthia and Peter were all looking like they were too good to have a little fun. Maybe Peter, him being a guy and all, but still, like Kandi said, NeNe and Cyn were acting like "old fogies". But as usual, when NeNe says "let's go" her flunkies, Cyn and Peter must follow and surely they did. They could have at least said bye to Kandi though and let them know they were leaving. That was really rude. It wasn't Kandi's idea to have the stripper. And I was so surprised by mama Joyce's reaction as well. If she can sit around and talk about dildo's and other sexual activites with her daughter and her friends, then why was this stripper so damn offensive to her? I really didn't get that one. Anywho, my thing is this, that party was an ADULT party for a woman who was turning 35. This wasn't a 5 year old, little kids party. Now I will say that maybe an announcement of some kind should had been made before the stripper was brought out...something like "this next event is for mature ladies only". So that at least the men who didn't want to be apart of that could have gone to another area or something. But as for mama Joyce, yeah she needed to go, I just hated that she basically ruined it for Kandi on her birthday because then Kandi was all worried about her instead of having fun. I swear, sometimes, older folks can be really contradictive.

Now as for Sheree and that house. Is she kidding me? I mean yes Phaedra is right, those building contractors can be some sneaky asses, but the question remains, how is Sheree paying for this mess?

And how in the hell did Lawrence outdo Derek? As outraegous as Lawrence looked, I have to give it to him, he put time and effort into his appearance. Derek? Hmm, he looked like it took all of 2 minutes to throw together that trifling outfit he had on. How in the world do your fat ass wear a tank top with high heels to a party? Like the heels were going to excuse and make us forget that trifling tank top? Tacky.

Last but not least, Cynthia and sister and Peter. Gosh, I'm really not feeling Peter at all. Is it me or is he acting so damn girly? How in the world does a man say "you ruined my day. Our day was supposed to had been perfect but you ruined it". Huh? You still got married fool. Why aren't you concentrating on the parts where your future wife made a grand entrance, you two said your vows and you all were pronounced husband and wife? Why are you focusing on what her sister and her mother did when they didn't even go through with it? Don't get me wrong, yes Peter and Cynthia had every right to be angry with them, but its time to be over it and make things right. Her sister has at the very least, explained her role and side of it, but she's made it clear, she's not going to apologize for it. So why can't they just drop it already? Now as far as Cyn's sister getting up in her biz about giving Peter money for his, yet another, Bar/club venture...umm I think she need to stay out of that. But why do I get this irking feeling that maybe Cyn borrowed money from her to give to Peter when that whole Uptown thing happened and that's why she be bringing it up? And yes, Cyn does get extremely defensive if you say anything about her and Peter's relationship/marriage. That's very telling. Who is she trying to convince? Others or herself that she did the right thing by marrying him?

Well according to next week's epi, looks like Cyn will be possibly taking more of her money to help Peter, once again. And again, I know as a wife, its her duty to help her husband, but it just looks like she married a broke ass Papa Smurf. Just sayin'.

[Edited 11/28/11 4:58am]

I normally just read the recaps from you guys. but just wanted to comment on a few things:

As far as Miss Joyce and being offended at the stripper. I think she was offended because it was a mixed party, not just girls getting together. I think she was uncomfortable that there were husbands, and boyfriends there for the "show".

As to the Cynthia and Peter thing. I think the guy is bad news. When Leon was at their house last episode and they were talking about the new bar, he specifically asked if Cyn was fronting money for the new bar by asking if they were partners in the new venture. Leon looked like: 'please tell me you are not fronting for this dude on another business when he just had one that failed, that you also fronted him money for.' Cyn quickly said no. Now Peter needs $40K to start Bar One. I'm sorry but isn't Cyn trying to start a modeling agency or whatever, and now she's giving Peter $$ for his venture? Please. Husband or not, he is now digging into her wallet once again when he knows she's trying to get her business off the ground.

I think the main thing that got Ms. Joyce upset was that the dude pleasured himself at this party. I can't think of anybody's mama where seeing something like that would go down would ever be cool. I know that strippers are popular party entertainment, and for a few extra dollas you can get them to show some exkra skin...but sucking your own d***??? Really??? I know Kandi has a girlfriend relationship with her mama but that was a bit much...and even though she wasn't responsible for hiring Ridikulous, given his reputation she shoulda stepped in before he got to deep into his show to make sure he wasn't going to step out of bounds...and Phaedra (as much as I#m loving her this season ) was wrong for giving Kandi that as a gift in front of mixed company & Kandi's mama when she knows dang well her own mama (the Pastor) would prolly smack her silly if she pulled some mess like that in front of her.

missfee said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I normally just read the recaps from you guys. but just wanted to comment on a few things:

As far as Miss Joyce and being offended at the stripper. I think she was offended because it was a mixed party, not just girls getting together. I think she was uncomfortable that there were husbands, and boyfriends there for the "show".

As to the Cynthia and Peter thing. I think the guy is bad news. When Leon was at their house last episode and they were talking about the new bar, he specifically asked if Cyn was fronting money for the new bar by asking if they were partners in the new venture. Leon looked like: 'please tell me you are not fronting for this dude on another business when he just had one that failed, that you also fronted him money for.' Cyn quickly said no. Now Peter needs $40K to start Bar One. I'm sorry but isn't Cyn trying to start a modeling agency or whatever, and now she's giving Peter $$ for his venture? Please. Husband or not, he is now digging into her wallet once again when he knows she's trying to get her business off the ground.

I'm in agreeance with you. She shouldn't have to keep bailing him out of his failed business ventures when he doesn't have enough money (or RELIABLE investors) to help get his business off the ground when she's trying to do the same for her own business. It's a lack of consideration on his part but she should also have the balls and the backbone to tell him no. But I know she's going to fall back on that and use the "well I'm his wife and I'm obligated to help him out. That's what couples do." And I get that, but he should have learned from when this happened the first time and therefore, in this case, there's nothing wrong with her telling him no, she's not going to lend him the money this time.

I agree with this. While i know nothing about the bar/food service industry, I say she should have told her husband to to postpone the opening. I really can't see what the rush was; he needs to take the proper time to cultivate an adequate resource pool for cash and leave his wife alone to focus on her own business...and while she's at it she needs to snap up a real booker that has agency experience and is looking to move into their own niche...actually, I don't think even Cynthia knows if her business mission is clearly defined: I can't tell if she's opening up a modeling school, or an agency, or what... what i do know is that if it's an agency, she better start looking for someone with experience to run her desk and make her client contacts, because at the moment she is all over the place- and admitted that she has no clue what she's doing when she's not in front of that camera...having Miss Jay on the show to teach students how to walk was a great camera moment, but homegirl needs a solid business plan with somebody who knows how to reach out to clients as well as keep the books straight in her office. Since her sister is her assistant she'll know a lot of office coordinator/production type stuff...but in order to make this work as an agency she needs a proper booker.

Ottensen said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I normally just read the recaps from you guys. but just wanted to comment on a few things:

As far as Miss Joyce and being offended at the stripper. I think she was offended because it was a mixed party, not just girls getting together. I think she was uncomfortable that there were husbands, and boyfriends there for the "show".

As to the Cynthia and Peter thing. I think the guy is bad news. When Leon was at their house last episode and they were talking about the new bar, he specifically asked if Cyn was fronting money for the new bar by asking if they were partners in the new venture. Leon looked like: 'please tell me you are not fronting for this dude on another business when he just had one that failed, that you also fronted him money for.' Cyn quickly said no. Now Peter needs $40K to start Bar One. I'm sorry but isn't Cyn trying to start a modeling agency or whatever, and now she's giving Peter $$ for his venture? Please. Husband or not, he is now digging into her wallet once again when he knows she's trying to get her business off the ground.

I think the main thing that got Ms. Joyce upset was that the dude pleasured himself at this party. I can't think of anybody's mama where seeing something like that would go down would ever be cool. I know that strippers are popular party entertainment, and for a few extra dollas you can get them to show some exkra skin...but sucking your own d***??? Really??? I know Kandi has a girlfriend relationship with her mama but that was a bit much...and even though she wasn't responsible for hiring Ridikulous, given his reputation she shoulda stepped in before he got to deep into his show to make sure he wasn't going to step out of bounds...and Phaedra (as much as I#m loving her this season ) was wrong for giving Kandi that as a gift in front of mixed company & Kandi's mama when she knows dang well her own mama (the Pastor) would prolly smack her silly if she pulled some mess like that in front of her.

Yeah you have a point there. He did take the whole stripper experience to "higher heights" but how was Kandi supposed to know that he was going to do that? I honestly don't think she thought he would go that far...only Phaedra knew that. But I do think that a disclaimer should had been announced prior to his grand entrance to give people the chance to decide if they wanted to see that or not.

Ottensen said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I normally just read the recaps from you guys. but just wanted to comment on a few things:

As far as Miss Joyce and being offended at the stripper. I think she was offended because it was a mixed party, not just girls getting together. I think she was uncomfortable that there were husbands, and boyfriends there for the "show".

As to the Cynthia and Peter thing. I think the guy is bad news. When Leon was at their house last episode and they were talking about the new bar, he specifically asked if Cyn was fronting money for the new bar by asking if they were partners in the new venture. Leon looked like: 'please tell me you are not fronting for this dude on another business when he just had one that failed, that you also fronted him money for.' Cyn quickly said no. Now Peter needs $40K to start Bar One. I'm sorry but isn't Cyn trying to start a modeling agency or whatever, and now she's giving Peter $$ for his venture? Please. Husband or not, he is now digging into her wallet once again when he knows she's trying to get her business off the ground.

I think the main thing that got Ms. Joyce upset was that the dude pleasured himself at this party. I can't think of anybody's mama where seeing something like that would go down would ever be cool. I know that strippers are popular party entertainment, and for a few extra dollas you can get them to show some exkra skin...but sucking your own d***??? Really??? I know Kandi has a girlfriend relationship with her mama but that was a bit much...and even though she wasn't responsible for hiring Ridikulous, given his reputation she shoulda stepped in before he got to deep into his show to make sure he wasn't going to step out of bounds...and Phaedra (as much as I#m loving her this season ) was wrong for giving Kandi that as a gift in front of mixed company & Kandi's mama when she knows dang well her own mama (the Pastor) would prolly smack her silly if she pulled some mess like that in front of her.

Ah ha. Ok, I was swtiching back and forth between the football game. Missed this bit. Ok. I can see Mom being disturbed or offended. I think the better way to go with this celebration would have been to have the cake and champagne and then let everyone know there will be a "show" of an explicit sexual nature and give folks time who didn't want to participate to roll out. Mamma included.

*cracks knuckles* It's been a minute. I keep walking past this thread and getting distracted with Non-Prince Music section. Recaps and commentary mixed in. Somebody gave me Vodka this morning.

Well shoot, I'm an old Fogey, Kandi. That stripper/entertainer made me want to throw up. As perverted, filthy, and sticky as my mind gets on a daily basis, something about ol' jingle jangle pants made me frown up HARD. When her mother got upset, I understood it. If she's so open-minded about things, it can't be too wrong of a reaction to be disgusted. I was gonna keep quiet about this and let it pass, but MTO... GOD that site just had to post him self-serving on the bar after a jump link.

I gave major side eye to Phaedra for that gift. It's great that Kandi liked it, but it also rubbed a lot of guests (not just NeNe and company) the wrong way. I know it was a suprise, but isn't is possible to get a male entertainer who doesn't er...go there like he did? But since he is an entertainer, where is the line drawn? Half naked? Full nude? Well, if she doesn't do funeral business, she sure can pick 'em for an entertainment business. Suddenly that pickle thing makes so much sense. Okay Phaedra. You'll be making sex toys right behind Kandi. Nothing wrong with that. I guess my mind just closed a bit 'cause that stripper felt extra to me. Extra, extra.

Sheree, Kim, and Phaedra suddenly all liking each other was predictable. Everyone hates NeNe and I can understand why. However, every other conversation is about her. NeNe is NeNe, which includes a lot of crazy. What I hated was that in this mix, Kandi was talking about how 'not in the middle' she was, but came back from the vacation running her mouth. Which is typical, yes, but at some point can we give it a rest? I don't think she's any differrent...just more mature and quiet about it.

Do I have to talk about the "chateau" Sheree suddenly has the cheese to build from the ground up? How far does a Bravo check stretch anyway? How good is that chitlin circuit play money? Maybe she invested in some things. Anyway, the thing with her and NeNe is so silly. They've both got huge funky egos. Yes, I said soemthing negative about NeNe. I still like parts about her, but I know full well she's got haters AND hater-like attitude problems of her own.

Phaedra and her bird necklace are growing on me. I love that she's tripping between bad eyeshadow blending and a perfectly blended shade. No comment on the funerals popping, but I'm actually glad she's nestled in to family life and thinking ahead with extra hustles. I can't be mad at an educated woman despite her....ways....

Kim is pregnant with big ol' hooters. I tried to give her side eye but the horny Lesbian in my head keeps motorboating them brestases and trying to kiss her poofy lips. She did right choosing Kroy. It's genuine so props for that, 'cause real love is hard to come by. I did make a snarky comment or two in the beginning of their thing on MTO, but watching them together, I can give her somewhat of a pass (I kinda don't like her for obvious reasons...lol) for getting into fam mode with her daughters, new son, and husband. I would wish her only the best.

That baby shower mess was OWFUL, though. Peter was wrong, Apollo was wrong, and like y'all said, Phaedra picked the wrong time to bring that interview up. Peter speaks his mind all the time, though. Haven't we all learned that yet? If he knows you well or not, he has an opinion of some kind. Both those men were in kid mode but Apollo drove me nuts trying to be a defensive little thug. Peter might be "Papa Smurf", but I tell you what, he looks like if you cross him on the wrong day, he'll reach into your side and yank out your liver. Don't test older people. I learned that the hard way when my grandma strong-armed me a year ago at 84! Anyway, the apology was nice, but all the lovey dovey between those two just....ehhh...sonmething about it.

I just wanna see some wigs, panties, and heels flying in a fight. Don't mind me.

I'm just glad everyone is back. If anything, this show teaches me how NOT to act as a young woman looking at women 10 and 20 years my senior. It's totally a soap opera and that's why I love it so much with so much to say. Lady loves characters. This season...oy, barely started and I sense a loooot of you-know-what is gonna happen.