HotGritz said:

Sheree will put Nene in a headlock with them big ass muscles of hers. She might make Nene's teeth fall out again.

Ottensen said:

HotGritz said:

Who are these two new girls on Love & Hip Hop? I don't recognize them.

The one who clowned Emily and got chin-checked by Krissy is named Kimbella

I can't even remeber what the other one looked like...

WHAT HAPPENED TO GANGSTA ASS SOMAYA??

HotGritz said:

Ottensen said:

The one who clowned Emily and got chin-checked by Krissy is named Kimbella

I can't even remeber what the other one looked like...

WHAT HAPPENED TO GANGSTA ASS SOMAYA??

I don't know, but I saw her as part of the new season cast photo and she was looking like she been enjoying the New York beans and rice. Mami was looking plumper than last season.

LAWD H'ammercy, I just saw Basketball Wives today and the hot wratchet mess that is Jackie went into overdrive. Home girl got BUSTED with all her schemes and machinations, an had the nerve to call Doug to get him to Hawaii since she stabbed all her friends in the back and now they ain't studdin' her ass. And that whole rant she had at dinner with him . this heffa clearly is afflicted with either bi-polarity or Narcissistic Personality Disorder Now I know why she stays joined at the hip with her husband 24/7; if he was actually away from her ass long enough to see that there are mentally balanced women out there- he might realize that the woman he married is not normal by any stretch of the imagination and would run for his life

The crazy thing is that yesterday, I found the link for a pre-show hosted by Tami from BBW Miami, and featuring Laura and Jackie. It was devoted entirely to the Hawaii trip, and in retrospect I see now why Laura said "we ended up having a BALL! in the end" and then Jackie having no response! I have never seen a supposedly grown ass woman behave the way that she does

Ottensen said:

LAWD H'ammercy, I just saw Basketball Wives today and the hot wratchet mess that is Jackie went into overdrive. Home girl got BUSTED with all her schemes and machinations, an had the nerve to call Doug to get him to Hawaii since she stabbed all her friends in the back and now they ain't studdin' her ass. And that whole rant she had at dinner with him . this heffa clearly is afflicted with either bi-polarity or Narcissistic Personality Disorder Now I know why she stays joined at the hip with her husband 24/7; if he was actually away from her ass long enough to see that there are mentally balanced women out there- he might realize that the woman he married is not normal by any stretch of the imagination and would run for his life

The crazy thing is that yesterday, I found the link for a pre-show hosted by Tami from BBW Miami, and featuring Laura and Jackie. It was devoted entirely to the Hawaii trip, and in retrospect I see now why Laura said "we ended up having a BALL! in the end" and then Jackie having no response! I have never seen a supposedly grown ass woman behave the way that she does

Jackie is a bizzarre and apparently extremely insecure woman. She can't have an honest friendship without weaving webs of deceit and mistrust. Why should she want for all those women (her friends) to hate each other? It makes no sense whatsoever. You're supposed to build bridges not burn them. A house divided shall not stand.

Even if she were the type to thrive on drama, what she has done is just plain crazy and abnormal especially for a woman her age - which I believe to be 53 . And all the stuff she ran back and forth with wasn't even true or at least not entirely. I do believe either Laura or Imani called her at 2am talking mess but I think it wasn't anything malicious. Sometimes women get in little arguments that won't even go past day 2.

One thing though, and I really did laugh at this, Jackie said "aint none of them got no men and the men they do got aint good!" Oh and on the boat she said "God knows I don't mean no harm to no one and I really want to fuck somebody up right now!"

HotGritz said:

Ottensen said:

LAWD H'ammercy, I just saw Basketball Wives today and the hot wratchet mess that is Jackie went into overdrive. Home girl got BUSTED with all her schemes and machinations, an had the nerve to call Doug to get him to Hawaii since she stabbed all her friends in the back and now they ain't studdin' her ass. And that whole rant she had at dinner with him . this heffa clearly is afflicted with either bi-polarity or Narcissistic Personality Disorder Now I know why she stays joined at the hip with her husband 24/7; if he was actually away from her ass long enough to see that there are mentally balanced women out there- he might realize that the woman he married is not normal by any stretch of the imagination and would run for his life

The crazy thing is that yesterday, I found the link for a pre-show hosted by Tami from BBW Miami, and featuring Laura and Jackie. It was devoted entirely to the Hawaii trip, and in retrospect I see now why Laura said "we ended up having a BALL! in the end" and then Jackie having no response! I have never seen a supposedly grown ass woman behave the way that she does

Jackie is a bizzarre and apparently extremely insecure woman. She can't have an honest friendship without weaving webs of deceit and mistrust. Why should she want for all those women (her friends) to hate each other? It makes no sense whatsoever. You're supposed to build bridges not burn them. A house divided shall not stand.

Even if she were the type to thrive on drama, what she has done is just plain crazy and abnormal especially for a woman her age - which I believe to be 53 . And all the stuff she ran back and forth with wasn't even true or at least not entirely. I do believe either Laura or Imani called her at 2am talking mess but I think it wasn't anything malicious. Sometimes women get in little arguments that won't even go past day 2.

One thing though, and I really did laugh at this, Jackie said "aint none of them got no men and the men they do got aint good!" Oh and on the boat she said "God knows I don't mean no harm to no one and I really want to fuck somebody up right now!"

Si told y'all Jackie, looks bi-polar and needs meds, I'm tellin' ya! She can't be aware of what's coming out of her own mouth, she just can't.

Doug Christie got the patience of Job.

HotGritz said:

Doug Christie got the patience of Job.

HotGritz said:

Doug Christie got the patience of Job.

Him and Tamar's husband Vince from Braxton Family Values! They should be eligble for living Sainthood for putting up with these broads

Oh, on a more serious note: did y'all hear a couple weeks ago that Vince collapsed while filming for Season 2 of the show? Po thang fell out from a Pulmonary Embolism (blood clot in the lungs which can be fatal) . Tamar must have been beside herself

EXCLUSIVE UPDATE: Tamar Braxton's Husband Vincent Herbert Now Stable & Talking After Collapsing From Blood

Clot

Vincent Herbert, husband to Tamar Braxton and producer and label head for Lady GaGa, collapsed while in New York City last Friday. Following yesterday's reports saying he was in serious condition and on a respirator, we've confirmed, as of today, he's more stable.

Details inside...

While in NYC for music related meetings this past Friday, Vincent collapsed and was rushed to the hospital for treatment. He was initially in the Intensive Care Unit. Our production source for the "Braxton Family Values" show confirmed to TheYBF.com that while the situation was indeed serious at one point, Vince is more stable at this time, and even talking to friends and family who are currently with him at the hospital.

Our source confirms it was indeed a pulmonary embolism, a blood clot in the lungs that can easily be fatal. Tennis starSerena Williams also suffered from this extremely serious condition following her foot surgery several months ago.

It has not been reported yet the exact cause of the embolism.

We're told Tamar was extremely distraught by the whole situation, and hasn't left her husband's bedside in New York. And we've also learned the We TV reality cameras were (and are still) rolling, since all 19 episodes of the upcoming season of "Braxton Family Values" (which kicks) off next week have not yet been taped. So we will likely see this whole emergency play out on tv.

Tamar and Vince were slated to attend President Obama's $35,000 per plate fundraising dinner this past Monday at Chief Creative Officer of Pixar/Disney John Lasseter's L.A. home with Will Smith and other A-Listers. But since Vince is still hospitalized in NY, they skipped out.

Tomorrow's scheduled reality show press dinner in L.A. has been postponed.

Toni Braxton also dropped her brother-in-law Vince as her manager recently, and is now being managed by Baumgarten Management & Productions, Inc. with publicity headed by The Chamber Group.

Damn poor Vince! I hope he's ok. He needs to slow down because he seems to work too hard.

Ottensen said:

HotGritz said:

Doug Christie got the patience of Job.

Him and Tamar's husband Vince from Braxton Family Values! They should be eligble for living Sainthood for putting up with these broads

Oh, on a more serious note: did y'all hear a couple weeks ago that Vince collapsed while filming for Season 2 of the show? Po thang fell out from a Pulmonary Embolism (blood clot in the lungs which can be fatal) . Tamar must have been beside herself

EXCLUSIVE UPDATE: Tamar Braxton's Husband Vincent Herbert Now Stable & Talking After Collapsing From Blood

Clot

Vincent Herbert, husband to Tamar Braxton and producer and label head for Lady GaGa, collapsed while in New York City last Friday. Following yesterday's reports saying he was in serious condition and on a respirator, we've confirmed, as of today, he's more stable.

Details inside...

While in NYC for music related meetings this past Friday, Vincent collapsed and was rushed to the hospital for treatment. He was initially in the Intensive Care Unit. Our production source for the "Braxton Family Values" show confirmed to TheYBF.com that while the situation was indeed serious at one point, Vince is more stable at this time, and even talking to friends and family who are currently with him at the hospital.

Our source confirms it was indeed a pulmonary embolism, a blood clot in the lungs that can easily be fatal. Tennis starSerena Williams also suffered from this extremely serious condition following her foot surgery several months ago.

It has not been reported yet the exact cause of the embolism.

We're told Tamar was extremely distraught by the whole situation, and hasn't left her husband's bedside in New York. And we've also learned the We TV reality cameras were (and are still) rolling, since all 19 episodes of the upcoming season of "Braxton Family Values" (which kicks) off next week have not yet been taped. So we will likely see this whole emergency play out on tv.

Tamar and Vince were slated to attend President Obama's $35,000 per plate fundraising dinner this past Monday at Chief Creative Officer of Pixar/Disney John Lasseter's L.A. home with Will Smith and other A-Listers. But since Vince is still hospitalized in NY, they skipped out.

Tomorrow's scheduled reality show press dinner in L.A. has been postponed.

Toni Braxton also dropped her brother-in-law Vince as her manager recently, and is now being managed by Baumgarten Management & Productions, Inc. with publicity headed by The Chamber Group.

Yeah, my incle is security at the hospital he was at and he said all of them rolled up in there. I didn't know why until I heard about Tamar husband.

Who caught the Braxton's tonight?

Tell me Towanda's EX-husband Andre did not just say Towanda needs to stop catering to her sisters and start catering to some of his needs. Fool....GET A JOB!!! Y'all are not together anymore, you a grown ass man following your babies mama around and ain't helping with a damn thing. So, as far as I'm concerned, she don't have to cater to jack shit that has anything to do with you. Ole mush mouth ass.

^ 50+ year old nigga without a job and a home and got the nerve to want somebody to cater to him? Where they grow these old ass fools with entitlement complexes at? Towanda need to put his ass out. I mean he can't be THAT good a daddy that she would tolerate such bullshit. There's other daddy figures out there and what the hell he teaching his kids anyway? How to be broke asses living off other people?

Ottensen said:

HotGritz said:

Doug Christie got the patience of Job.

Him and Tamar's husband Vince from Braxton Family Values! They should be eligble for living Sainthood for putting up with these broads

Oh, on a more serious note: did y'all hear a couple weeks ago that Vince collapsed while filming for Season 2 of the show? Po thang fell out from a Pulmonary Embolism (blood clot in the lungs which can be fatal) . Tamar must have been beside herself

EXCLUSIVE UPDATE: Tamar Braxton's Husband Vincent Herbert Now Stable & Talking After Collapsing From Blood

Clot

Vincent Herbert, husband to Tamar Braxton and producer and label head for Lady GaGa, collapsed while in New York City last Friday. Following yesterday's reports saying he was in serious condition and on a respirator, we've confirmed, as of today, he's more stable.

Details inside...

While in NYC for music related meetings this past Friday, Vincent collapsed and was rushed to the hospital for treatment. He was initially in the Intensive Care Unit. Our production source for the "Braxton Family Values" show confirmed to TheYBF.com that while the situation was indeed serious at one point, Vince is more stable at this time, and even talking to friends and family who are currently with him at the hospital.

Our source confirms it was indeed a pulmonary embolism, a blood clot in the lungs that can easily be fatal. Tennis starSerena Williams also suffered from this extremely serious condition following her foot surgery several months ago.

It has not been reported yet the exact cause of the embolism.

We're told Tamar was extremely distraught by the whole situation, and hasn't left her husband's bedside in New York. And we've also learned the We TV reality cameras were (and are still) rolling, since all 19 episodes of the upcoming season of "Braxton Family Values" (which kicks) off next week have not yet been taped. So we will likely see this whole emergency play out on tv.

Tamar and Vince were slated to attend President Obama's $35,000 per plate fundraising dinner this past Monday at Chief Creative Officer of Pixar/Disney John Lasseter's L.A. home with Will Smith and other A-Listers. But since Vince is still hospitalized in NY, they skipped out.

Tomorrow's scheduled reality show press dinner in L.A. has been postponed.

Toni Braxton also dropped her brother-in-law Vince as her manager recently, and is now being managed by Baumgarten Management & Productions, Inc. with publicity headed by The Chamber Group.

That's a real long sweater......

Have y'all seen the new epi of RHOA yet? Lawd, just seen the first 10 minutes of it and I got to say, I love love love Leon, the man got balls up the ass...while Peter acts like one. Totally get what Leon is saying but Peter, urgh. Was what Cynthia's mom and sis did on her wedding day right? No. But as Leon said, Peter still has to learn to deal with them instead of having this bullheaded attitude like "fuck 'em". SMH. And Apollo, my respect meter for him went up to 100%. I'll finish my synopsis when I finish watching the rest of the epi.

Okay, hot mess all around.

So how is it that Sheree went from this sprawling mansion she shared with her ex, downsized to a smaller house, now she in a condo about to build her another house? Umm is Bravo footing the bill for this home? And she actually wants them to rush and build it too? SMH.

Phaedra had me rolling with the "Uncle Ben" and "Papa Smurf" comments about Peter.

Why is Cynthia NeNe's flunky? Why is Peter even asking if NeNe would be at Kim's baby shower when he knows that Kim and NeNe on the outs right now? Dumb question. I think he just says things sarcastically to be a deliberate asshole. But why does Cynthia and Peter act like the only time they can have fun is if NeNe is present? Umm they didn't have to attend the baby shower and resulting from what happened, it would had been better if they just would have taken their boring asses to NeNe house instead anyway.

As far as the confrontation goes at the table at the baby shower, maybe it wasn't the right time for Phaedra to bring up the interview Peter did, but since he always acting like he's "real" then I kind of didn't think she was all in the wrong. He could've taken that conversation into a different route, but instead he chose to escalate it which in turn resulted in Apollo speaking up. I really feel Apollo, the whole conversation was annoying and you could tell because his face was turning pink. But for Peter to bring up the whole arrest thing with Apollo when he didn't even know the details was a low blow. I was really wishing Apollo would had socked Peter in his snowman beard. Somebody obviously needs to put Uncle Ben in his place because its clear that Cynthia don't know how to grow a backbone. The whole time she's just sitting there looking clueless like she didn't know what to do. Umm how about tell your husband to shut up, simmer down, or walk away. And while she's up NeNe's ass right now, she should be careful because it won't be long before NeNe turns on her too.

[Edited 11/21/11 7:04am]

OMG it WAS a hot mess indeed.

"Chateux Sheree"??? REALLY??? Somebody tell me where this magic money tree is this bitch has grown cuz I don't know how the hell she's building a damn house from scratch with NO scratch.

So, lemme get this straight, Cynthia and her grandfather show up at the babyshower 4 to 5 hours late, with NO baby gift, escalate some petty shit and bounce. How rude is that?? That husband of hers was demonstrating some serious bitchassness. Papa Smurf betta fall back because Apollo got that prison strength from fighting dudes off his pretty ass and he could inflict some serious damage and it just ain't right to beat down the elderly. I know Cynthia tries to play the "classy" role, but she should have put her damn husband in check. Hell Kandi was doing what Cynthia's dingy ass should've been doin.

And all I got to say about Leon's fine ass is: Whoo lawd!!!! I hope he has more camera time

I think I have a crush on Uncle Ben **cough** I mean Peter. Nothing like a man who isn't afraid to speak his mind and call bullshit when he sees it. Everything Peter said was the absolute truth. Sheree IS NOT cute. Them ATL men in women's garb and high heels IS A HOT MESS, Cynthia's family need to mind their own business and Phaedra BUMPS HER GUMS too damn much.

Sheree got nerve makeing that comment about 'what straight man gives an interview on housewives' when her own baby daddy was talking about the show and about her. Besides, what the hell does Sheree know about straight men anyway?

I felt for Kroy though. He's trying to honor the upcoming arrival of his son and celebrate his newfound family and here come these hood ass kneegrows ruining everything. Of course, we can assume he expected trouble given that security popped up like LA SWAT!

I'm sorry but Uncle Ben/Papa Smurf needs to QUIT it. Sheree was right. What kinda man goes in on his wife's supposed girlfriends in a magazine interview. Talking about their looks and such???....Acting like a catty house wife himself.."Are you fucking kidding me"? A bitch ass man that's who. His attitude turns me completely off.

I have to for Apollo. He stood up for his wife and handled himself as well as he could considering the circumstances. Old man just knew his lights would have been punched out else where.

And I love Kim and Troy together now. He seems good for her. Her daughter's speech was touching. Who would a thought this boy toy would calm her down and give a stable home life. Good for her.

[Edited 11/21/11 11:50am]

lavender1983 said:

I'm sorry but Uncle Ben/Papa Smurf needs to QUIT it. Sheree was right. What kinda man goes in on his wife's supposed girlfriends in a magazine interview. Talking about their looks and such???....Acting like a catty house wife himself.."Are you fucking kidding me"? A bitch ass man that's who. His attitude turns me completely off.

I have to for Apollo. He stood up for his wife and handled himself as well as he could considering the circumstances. Old man just knew his lights would have been punched out else where.

And I love Kim and Troy together now. He seems good for her. Her daughter's speech was touching. Who would a thought this boy toy would calm her down and give a stable home life. Good for her.

[Edited 11/21/11 11:50am]

I vaguely remember that interview but I believe Peter was talking more about him and Cynthia and his restaurant mess and the interviewer then asked him about the rest of the cast and about being in ATL. In that sense, Peter was just speaking his mind and being honest. They have talked mess about him and Cynthia since their nuptials and before. I know its part of the show but sometimes unresolved issues go outside the bounds of the show and what is supposed to be entertainment. Phaedra sho nuff called him dirty even tho she got an ex-con for a husband and Sheree called him broke and Kandi well...we all saw how Kim took her to the cleaners.

As for Apollo...well I didn't appreciate him pushing Phaedra away and saying "get off me" and "sit down" or whatever it was. His wife started the mess by bringing up the article and saying "nobody likes me". Phaedra could have talked to Cynthia weeks earlier and simply asked "what's up with your man and what have I done to make him not stand me?". All these grown ass people and they can't sit down and have a simple conversation.

Apollo is dumb. His ass already been to prison and trying to work his way back in. Who starts a fight at a damn baby shower? Apollo got up first and started beating on his chest like a typical thug. I know he may feel he has something to prove but that wasn't the time nor the place.

I agree about Kim and Kroy. They look good together and I'm glad he's taken to her children so well. He's a country boy and that's just what Kim needs. Their son is adorable. Kroy's mini me.

HotGritz said:

lavender1983 said:

I'm sorry but Uncle Ben/Papa Smurf needs to QUIT it. Sheree was right. What kinda man goes in on his wife's supposed girlfriends in a magazine interview. Talking about their looks and such???....Acting like a catty house wife himself.."Are you fucking kidding me"? A bitch ass man that's who. His attitude turns me completely off.

I have to for Apollo. He stood up for his wife and handled himself as well as he could considering the circumstances. Old man just knew his lights would have been punched out else where.

And I love Kim and Troy together now. He seems good for her. Her daughter's speech was touching. Who would a thought this boy toy would calm her down and give a stable home life. Good for her.

[Edited 11/21/11 11:50am]

I vaguely remember that interview but I believe Peter was talking more about him and Cynthia and his restaurant mess and the interviewer then asked him about the rest of the cast and about being in ATL. In that sense, Peter was just speaking his mind and being honest. They have talked mess about him and Cynthia since their nuptials and before. I know its part of the show but sometimes unresolved issues go outside the bounds of the show and what is supposed to be entertainment. Phaedra sho nuff called him dirty even tho she got an ex-con for a husband and Sheree called him broke and Kandi well...we all saw how Kim took her to the cleaners.

As for Apollo...well I didn't appreciate him pushing Phaedra away and saying "get off me" and "sit down" or whatever it was. His wife started the mess by bringing up the article and saying "nobody likes me". Phaedra could have talked to Cynthia weeks earlier and simply asked "what's up with your man and what have I done to make him not stand me?". All these grown ass people and they can't sit down and have a simple conversation.

Apollo is dumb. His ass already been to prison and trying to work his way back in. Who starts a fight at a damn baby shower? Apollo got up first and started beating on his chest like a typical thug. I know he may feel he has something to prove but that wasn't the time nor the place.

I agree about Kim and Kroy. They look good together and I'm glad he's taken to her children so well. He's a country boy and that's just what Kim needs. Their son is adorable. Kroy's mini me.

Oh I know them ladies run their mouth for sure. Nobody's really right here. I guess I just hate when men act like catty women. To me that's what he did in the interview.

I know they have pushed his buttons repeatedly but he could have handled it differently. And yes Phaedra shouldn't have brought it up right there because she should have known what was about to pop off.

But I'm thinking she was like "Why act all fake now sitting around the table all cheesing and drinking when your ass clearly don't like me". I also think it was Papa smurf who started. Apollo was agaited yes but it was when Papa smurf said something like "I see you rubbing your hands together like you wanna fight" or something smart like that, that Apollo then got up.

At least he had the sense to walk away and not take it any further. Cynthia should have tried to calm her husband down and walk him outside or something. Papa smurf was looking to fight IMO. The same way you think Phaedra should have sat Cynthia down and had a convo about what was in the article, I think Papa smurf should have tried to work out his differences with the ladies in person, one by one and at least try to come to a common ground before spazzing in a magazine.

And even then, if they still cant stand each other that's fine. Everybody don't gotta be the best of friends. But at least be cordial in public and keep it moving.

And why the personal attack on people's looks??? Like really though? And Sheree confronts him right there with "It didn't bother me because I know I'm cute" and he's like "Really you think you are cute ?". Lawdhavmercy.

What am I thinking? Ain't gonna be no show if everyone was cordial and respectful to each other

It's just a ghetto mess all around

SHOCKADELICA1 said:

OMG it WAS a hot mess indeed.

"Chateux Sheree"??? REALLY??? Somebody tell me where this magic money tree is this bitch has grown cuz I don't know how the hell she's building a damn house from scratch with NO scratch.

So, lemme get this straight, Cynthia and her grandfather show up at the babyshower 4 to 5 hours late, with NO baby gift, escalate some petty shit and bounce. How rude is that?? That husband of hers was demonstrating some serious bitchassness. Papa Smurf betta fall back because Apollo got that prison strength from fighting dudes off his pretty ass and he could inflict some serious damage and it just ain't right to beat down the elderly. I know Cynthia tries to play the "classy" role, but she should have put her damn husband in check. Hell Kandi was doing what Cynthia's dingy ass should've been doin.

And all I got to say about Leon's fine ass is: Whoo lawd!!!! I hope he has more camera time

to all of that. Especially Leon....lawd I swear he looks better now than he did 20 years ago...and he was fine then too!!!!

lavender1983 said:

I'm sorry but Uncle Ben/Papa Smurf needs to QUIT it. Sheree was right. What kinda man goes in on his wife's supposed girlfriends in a magazine interview. Talking about their looks and such???....Acting like a catty house wife himself.."Are you fucking kidding me"? A bitch ass man that's who. His attitude turns me completely off.

I have to for Apollo. He stood up for his wife and handled himself as well as he could considering the circumstances. Old man just knew his lights would have been punched out else where.

And I love Kim and Troy together now. He seems good for her. Her daughter's speech was touching. Who would a thought this boy toy would calm her down and give a stable home life. Good for her.

[Edited 11/21/11 11:50am]

I'm going to check out her show about the days leading up to her wedding too.

HotGritz said:

lavender1983 said:

I'm sorry but Uncle Ben/Papa Smurf needs to QUIT it. Sheree was right. What kinda man goes in on his wife's supposed girlfriends in a magazine interview. Talking about their looks and such???....Acting like a catty house wife himself.."Are you fucking kidding me"? A bitch ass man that's who. His attitude turns me completely off.

I have to for Apollo. He stood up for his wife and handled himself as well as he could considering the circumstances. Old man just knew his lights would have been punched out else where.

And I love Kim and Troy together now. He seems good for her. Her daughter's speech was touching. Who would a thought this boy toy would calm her down and give a stable home life. Good for her.

[Edited 11/21/11 11:50am]

I vaguely remember that interview but I believe Peter was talking more about him and Cynthia and his restaurant mess and the interviewer then asked him about the rest of the cast and about being in ATL. In that sense, Peter was just speaking his mind and being honest. They have talked mess about him and Cynthia since their nuptials and before. I know its part of the show but sometimes unresolved issues go outside the bounds of the show and what is supposed to be entertainment. Phaedra sho nuff called him dirty even tho she got an ex-con for a husband and Sheree called him broke and Kandi well...we all saw how Kim took her to the cleaners.

As for Apollo...well I didn't appreciate him pushing Phaedra away and saying "get off me" and "sit down" or whatever it was. His wife started the mess by bringing up the article and saying "nobody likes me". Phaedra could have talked to Cynthia weeks earlier and simply asked "what's up with your man and what have I done to make him not stand me?". All these grown ass people and they can't sit down and have a simple conversation.

Apollo is dumb. His ass already been to prison and trying to work his way back in. Who starts a fight at a damn baby shower? Apollo got up first and started beating on his chest like a typical thug. I know he may feel he has something to prove but that wasn't the time nor the place.

I agree about Kim and Kroy. They look good together and I'm glad he's taken to her children so well. He's a country boy and that's just what Kim needs. Their son is adorable. Kroy's mini me.

Gritz lawd this is a first. I completely 100% disagree with your view on this. Papa Smurf's ass clearly holds grudges and doesn't know when to act right. He and his wife showed up 10 hours late to a baby shower, with no gift and then he sits down and went in starting shit because their favorite Moose wasn't there to entertain them. Now I do recognize it was Phaedra who brought it up, maybe it wasn't the right time, but as I said before, who wants to sit up there and act civil towards someone who has been talking shit about you and acting like an asshole? Apollo is far from stupid. He did what he was supposed to do which was take up for his wife and let Uncle Ben know his place. I don't understand how folks show up late, with no gift, start shit and then walk out like they are the victims. They were better off just not showing up at all. To me, Peter is a bitch. Plain and simple.

lavender1983 said:

HotGritz said:

I vaguely remember that interview but I believe Peter was talking more about him and Cynthia and his restaurant mess and the interviewer then asked him about the rest of the cast and about being in ATL. In that sense, Peter was just speaking his mind and being honest. They have talked mess about him and Cynthia since their nuptials and before. I know its part of the show but sometimes unresolved issues go outside the bounds of the show and what is supposed to be entertainment. Phaedra sho nuff called him dirty even tho she got an ex-con for a husband and Sheree called him broke and Kandi well...we all saw how Kim took her to the cleaners.

As for Apollo...well I didn't appreciate him pushing Phaedra away and saying "get off me" and "sit down" or whatever it was. His wife started the mess by bringing up the article and saying "nobody likes me". Phaedra could have talked to Cynthia weeks earlier and simply asked "what's up with your man and what have I done to make him not stand me?". All these grown ass people and they can't sit down and have a simple conversation.

Apollo is dumb. His ass already been to prison and trying to work his way back in. Who starts a fight at a damn baby shower? Apollo got up first and started beating on his chest like a typical thug. I know he may feel he has something to prove but that wasn't the time nor the place.

I agree about Kim and Kroy. They look good together and I'm glad he's taken to her children so well. He's a country boy and that's just what Kim needs. Their son is adorable. Kroy's mini me.

Oh I know them ladies run their mouth for sure. Nobody's really right here. I guess I just hate when men act like catty women. To me that's what he did in the interview.

I know they have pushed his buttons repeatedly but he could have handled it differently. And yes Phaedra shouldn't have brought it up right there because she should have known what was about to pop off.

But I'm thinking she was like "Why act all fake now sitting around the table all cheesing and drinking when your ass clearly don't like me". I also think it was Papa smurf who started. Apollo was agaited yes but it was when Papa smurf said something like "I see you rubbing your hands together like you wanna fight" or something smart like that, that Apollo then got up.

At least he had the sense to walk away and not take it any further. Cynthia should have tried to calm her husband down and walk him outside or something. Papa smurf was looking to fight IMO. The same way you think Phaedra should have sat Cynthia down and had a convo about what was in the article, I think Papa smurf should have tried to work out his differences with the ladies in person, one by one and at least try to come to a common ground before spazzing in a magazine.

And even then, if they still cant stand each other that's fine. Everybody don't gotta be the best of friends. But at least be cordial in public and keep it moving.

And why the personal attack on people's looks??? Like really though? And Sheree confronts him right there with "It didn't bother me because I know I'm cute" and he's like "Really you think you are cute ?". Lawdhavmercy.

What am I thinking? Ain't gonna be no show if everyone was cordial and respectful to each other

It's just a ghetto mess all around

Exactly. While Peter was trying to prove his old ass manhood, Cynthia was sitting there looking like a clueless duck. I'm just so damn surprised at how naive and clueless she really is.

Now I know Sheree isn't the smartest person in the world, but her response to his insult was a good one. That shit wouldn't had bothered me either cause I know i'm not ugly but for you to hold me in such high importance to want to tell a magazine interviewer that I am ugly shows how much I'm on your mind. I would actually take it as a compliment. Thanks for thinking about me Uncle Ben.

missfee said:

lavender1983 said:

Oh I know them ladies run their mouth for sure. Nobody's really right here. I guess I just hate when men act like catty women. To me that's what he did in the interview.

I know they have pushed his buttons repeatedly but he could have handled it differently. And yes Phaedra shouldn't have brought it up right there because she should have known what was about to pop off.

But I'm thinking she was like "Why act all fake now sitting around the table all cheesing and drinking when your ass clearly don't like me". I also think it was Papa smurf who started. Apollo was agaited yes but it was when Papa smurf said something like "I see you rubbing your hands together like you wanna fight" or something smart like that, that Apollo then got up.

At least he had the sense to walk away and not take it any further. Cynthia should have tried to calm her husband down and walk him outside or something. Papa smurf was looking to fight IMO. The same way you think Phaedra should have sat Cynthia down and had a convo about what was in the article, I think Papa smurf should have tried to work out his differences with the ladies in person, one by one and at least try to come to a common ground before spazzing in a magazine.

And even then, if they still cant stand each other that's fine. Everybody don't gotta be the best of friends. But at least be cordial in public and keep it moving.

And why the personal attack on people's looks??? Like really though? And Sheree confronts him right there with "It didn't bother me because I know I'm cute" and he's like "Really you think you are cute ?". Lawdhavmercy.

What am I thinking? Ain't gonna be no show if everyone was cordial and respectful to each other

It's just a ghetto mess all around

Exactly. While Peter was trying to prove his old ass manhood, Cynthia was sitting there looking like a clueless duck. I'm just so damn surprised at how naive and clueless she really is.

Now I know Sheree isn't the smartest person in the world, but her response to his insult was a good one. That shit wouldn't had bothered me either cause I know i'm not ugly but for you to hold me in such high importance to want to tell a magazine interviewer that I am ugly shows how much I'm on your mind. I would actually take it as a compliment. Thanks for thinking about me Uncle Ben.

Ok both of you made some great points. Cynthia was out of pocket by not trying to control Peter who was instigating now that you remind me of his comments to Sheree. Even though she was offended by him saying she wasn't cute she handled it well by not letting him see her sweat.

The thing is, Peter only says what the rest of us are thinking. We all have said before how Sheree is full of herself and we all questioned the deal with Phaedra and Apollo. Even though Uncle Ben er uh...Papa Smurf (good one Phae Phae) overstepped his bounds with the commentary about his wife's cast mates he was only telling the truth.

Now it was bad of him and Cynthia to show up late and with no gift but she said she was out of town on a modeling gig or something right? If she didn't call ahead of time then that was trifling but if she called then nobody can be mad at her for being late cuz it was already known. You're right missfee about Peter missing his fav moose to entertain him. OMG! that's cold but damn if it aint true and funny.

I think maybe, just maybe, Peter is gunning for his own reality show. I mean he has been the most vocal of any househusband save for Alex's husband on RHONYC.

HotGritz said:

missfee said:

Exactly. While Peter was trying to prove his old ass manhood, Cynthia was sitting there looking like a clueless duck. I'm just so damn surprised at how naive and clueless she really is.

Now I know Sheree isn't the smartest person in the world, but her response to his insult was a good one. That shit wouldn't had bothered me either cause I know i'm not ugly but for you to hold me in such high importance to want to tell a magazine interviewer that I am ugly shows how much I'm on your mind. I would actually take it as a compliment. Thanks for thinking about me Uncle Ben.

Ok both of you made some great points. Cynthia was out of pocket by not trying to control Peter who was instigating now that you remind me of his comments to Sheree. Even though she was offended by him saying she wasn't cute she handled it well by not letting him see her sweat.

The thing is, Peter only says what the rest of us are thinking. We all have said before how Sheree is full of herself and we all questioned the deal with Phaedra and Apollo. Even though Uncle Ben er uh...Papa Smurf (good one Phae Phae) overstepped his bounds with the commentary about his wife's cast mates he was only telling the truth.

Now it was bad of him and Cynthia to show up late and with no gift but she said she was out of town on a modeling gig or something right? If she didn't call ahead of time then that was trifling but if she called then nobody can be mad at her for being late cuz it was already known. You're right missfee about Peter missing his fav moose to entertain him. OMG! that's cold but damn if it aint true and funny.

I think maybe, just maybe, Peter is gunning for his own reality show. I mean he has been the most vocal of any househusband save for Alex's husband on RHONYC.

Okay I gotcha Gritz. You are right, Peter does say what everybody else is thinking but the drawback to that is that he comes off looking more like an asshole rather than a person just giving an opinion. And we all know what happens when "keeping it real goes wrong". It's more his attitude and delivery than what he says to me. Especially when he talks about his in-laws. Like yes, Cyn's mom and sister were wrong for what they did, but for him to just be like, "yo I don't give a fuck about what they say or think"....hmm that doesn't seem too respectful. I mean they made a mistake, they was wrong, I'm sure they have apologized and given their side, but he's taking it with an attitude as if he don't ever have to talk to them again...but like Leon was telling him, when you marry someone, you marry their whole family, no matter if you like it or not. So the best thing to do is to just make amends with them instead of just writing them off and saying you don't give a fuck about them. It's okay to agree to disagree...Papa Smurf.

missfee said:

HotGritz said:

Ok both of you made some great points. Cynthia was out of pocket by not trying to control Peter who was instigating now that you remind me of his comments to Sheree. Even though she was offended by him saying she wasn't cute she handled it well by not letting him see her sweat.

The thing is, Peter only says what the rest of us are thinking. We all have said before how Sheree is full of herself and we all questioned the deal with Phaedra and Apollo. Even though Uncle Ben er uh...Papa Smurf (good one Phae Phae) overstepped his bounds with the commentary about his wife's cast mates he was only telling the truth.

Now it was bad of him and Cynthia to show up late and with no gift but she said she was out of town on a modeling gig or something right? If she didn't call ahead of time then that was trifling but if she called then nobody can be mad at her for being late cuz it was already known. You're right missfee about Peter missing his fav moose to entertain him. OMG! that's cold but damn if it aint true and funny.

I think maybe, just maybe, Peter is gunning for his own reality show. I mean he has been the most vocal of any househusband save for Alex's husband on RHONYC.

Okay I gotcha Gritz. You are right, Peter does say what everybody else is thinking but the drawback to that is that he comes off looking more like an asshole rather than a person just giving an opinion. And we all know what happens when "keeping it real goes wrong". It's more his attitude and delivery than what he says to me. Especially when he talks about his in-laws. Like yes, Cyn's mom and sister were wrong for what they did, but for him to just be like, "yo I don't give a fuck about what they say or think"....hmm that doesn't seem too respectful. I mean they made a mistake, they was wrong, I'm sure they have apologized and given their side, but he's taking it with an attitude as if he don't ever have to talk to them again...but like Leon was telling him, when you marry someone, you marry their whole family, no matter if you like it or not. So the best thing to do is to just make amends with them instead of just writing them off and saying you don't give a fuck about them. It's okay to agree to disagree...Papa Smurf.

RIGHT! Its all about his delivery. He comes off so abrasive sometimes. I feel what he says but he doesn't say it in a non-confrontational way. He really needs to heed Leon's words cuz obviously part of the reason why Cynthia is a run away bride is because of the influence of her family.

I don't think Cyn and Pete will last. Matter of fact, I don't think Phae and Apollo will last either. I think Kim and Kroy will outlast everyone.

HotGritz said:

missfee said:

Okay I gotcha Gritz. You are right, Peter does say what everybody else is thinking but the drawback to that is that he comes off looking more like an asshole rather than a person just giving an opinion. And we all know what happens when "keeping it real goes wrong". It's more his attitude and delivery than what he says to me. Especially when he talks about his in-laws. Like yes, Cyn's mom and sister were wrong for what they did, but for him to just be like, "yo I don't give a fuck about what they say or think"....hmm that doesn't seem too respectful. I mean they made a mistake, they was wrong, I'm sure they have apologized and given their side, but he's taking it with an attitude as if he don't ever have to talk to them again...but like Leon was telling him, when you marry someone, you marry their whole family, no matter if you like it or not. So the best thing to do is to just make amends with them instead of just writing them off and saying you don't give a fuck about them. It's okay to agree to disagree...Papa Smurf.

RIGHT! Its all about his delivery. He comes off so abrasive sometimes. I feel what he says but he doesn't say it in a non-confrontational way. He really needs to heed Leon's words cuz obviously part of the reason why Cynthia is a run away bride is because of the influence of her family.

I don't think Cyn and Pete will last. Matter of fact, I don't think Phae and Apollo will last either. I think Kim and Kroy will outlast everyone.

Well I definitely don't see Cyn and Uncle Ben lasting. I secretly keep wishing that Leon will swoop in, go David Ruffin on Peter and end up back with Cyn.

I can see Phaedra and Apollo together though. I think he genuinely loves her even though his work ethic is in question...and there's no doubt she loves her some Apollo. I do see a risk in that she may grow tired of his quirky work or so-called businesses he's involved in and not understanding them, but time will tell.

Kim and Kroy, I see them together forever. I like the way Kim is being with him. She's right, he definitely grounds her and he appears to not take any shit either.

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missfee said:

HotGritz said:

RIGHT! Its all about his delivery. He comes off so abrasive sometimes. I feel what he says but he doesn't say it in a non-confrontational way. He really needs to heed Leon's words cuz obviously part of the reason why Cynthia is a run away bride is because of the influence of her family.

I don't think Cyn and Pete will last. Matter of fact, I don't think Phae and Apollo will last either. I think Kim and Kroy will outlast everyone.

Well I definitely don't see Cyn and Uncle Ben lasting. I secretly keep wishing that Leon will swoop in, go David Ruffin on Peter and end up back with Cyn.

I can see Phaedra and Apollo together though. I think he genuinely loves her even though his work ethic is in question...and there's no doubt she loves her some Apollo. I do see a risk in that she may grow tired of his quirky work or so-called businesses he's involved in and not understanding them, but time will tell.

Kim and Kroy, I see them together forever. I like the way Kim is being with him. She's right, he definitely grounds her and he appears to not take any shit either.

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AW SHIT!!! Wouldn't that be something? You know their little girl would be all to happy with that. Her face lights up when she sees her daddy. Its too cute.

Plus....

Leon just look better than Peter. I aint sayin' Peter is ugly. I'm just sayin' he aint cute.