2freaky4church1 said:

I don't have an i-pod.

As a Christian I prayed for his soul.

No Ipod!

you really are too freaky for church!

And that was a very nice thing to do

2freaky4church1 said:

Was he God? He made lots of money for people, this is the only reason we care about him. Others die in the shadows.

The Pentagon pretty much funded computers during the cold war. He was helped by loads of government research. I bet the reporters who cry at his alter will not mention that.

Sure, death that young is tragic, but it had to be said.

Was he GOD?! What a dramatic question! LOL!

Bollocks. There are quite a few people around that have made alot of money, and people don't care nearly so much for them. See the Wall Street Protest thread for more on that.

EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD IS DERIVATIVE.

But some people have more of a hand in innovation than others...

I wish the Org had a 'like' function like Facebook, easy & quick...

Couldn't have said this better/as concisely.

2freaky4church1 said:

Was he God? He made lots of money for people, this is the only reason we care about him. Others die in the shadows.

The Pentagon pretty much funded computers during the cold war. He was helped by loads of government research. I bet the reporters who cry at his alter will not mention that.

Sure, death that young is tragic, but it had to be said.

R.I.P. Mr Jobs

Spinlight said:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/statement-by-apples-board-of-directors-2011-10-05

CUPERTINO, Calif., Oct 05, 2011 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- We are deeply saddened to announce that Steve Jobs passed away today.
Steve's brilliance, passion and energy were the source of countless innovations that enrich and improve all of our lives. The world is immeasurably better because of Steve.
His greatest love was for his wife, Laurene, and his family. Our hearts go out to them and to all who were touched by his extraordinary gifts.

i remember the first mac in 84, the world won't b the same it will move forward but his vision was noncomparable, Apple will not b the same its a shame but he kept that company thriving and edgey now it may become fully corporate and watered down, remember when they fird him then brought him back. RIP

Saw this cartoon... and thought it was cute..

( if u click on the pic.. it will get larger)

[Edited 10/6/11 10:55am]

Democracynow reported it as just another story, but Morning Joe did almost the whole show on his death. No mention of Fred Shuttlesworth dying or Wall Street protests, which are huge.

Steve Jobs Biography Moved Forward

Ocotber 6, 2011

Steve Jobs's authorized biography is to be released earlier than planned, it has been announced.

Due to overwhelming demand since the Apple co-founder's death on Wednesday, the official story of his life has been pushed forward from November 21 to October 24 by publisher Simon & Schuster.

Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson has risen from 437 to 1 in Amazon's bestseller list in pre-orders alone. It also topped the list of iTunes' bestsellers.

The biography is described as "a riveting story of the roller-coaster life and searingly intense personality of a creative entrepreneur, whose passion for perfection and ferocious drive revolutionised six industries - personal computers, animated movies, music, phones, tablet computing and digital publishing".

It is based upon 40 interviews with Jobs over the space of two years, as well as many other family members, friends, colleagues and fans.

Simon & Schuster said that Jobs asked for no control over the book's content, and that he wanted it to be released before he read it himself.

SquirrelMeat said:

RIP Mr Jobs, a huge part of PC development, but lets not overplay his role. His genius was as a salesman.

This comment has been bugging me all day, I finally figured out how to express why. Simplying Steve Jobs' contributions to being a salesmam is like someone saying Prince is just a guitar player.

Steve didn't just sell products, he stripped away the complexity without taking away the power.

Did the mouse exist before Macintosh? Of course, it also existed before Xerox Parc. The first computer mouse was created by Douglas Engelbart in 1968 - it looked like this

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Alan Kay and his team at Xerox took that idea, and other ideas that came before him (including windows, menus, object oriented programming, bitmapped computer displays) and developed a mouse that looked like this (among other improvements to what came before him)

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Steve Jobs took their ideas, improved upon them furhter (and compensated Xerox for access to what hey had developed), and came up with a mouse that looks like this

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from two hands, to 3 buttons to one button. That one button mouse isn't Xerox Parc, it isn't Andy Hertzfield, it isn't Burrel Smith, it isn't Bill Atkinson.

Why just 1 button? To strip away the complexity. If there's only 1 button, you can't press the wrong one. That's pure Steve Jobs. He challenged his team to make the UI work with just one button, and they did a wonderful job at it. On more than one occassion he decided it wasn't good enough, scrapped everything they had done and start over. "Good enough" was never good enough for steve. They had to sweat every detail until they got it right. From every pixel on the screen to every curve in the case.

When the first iMac was released, he put in on a pedistal to rotate it and show the entire thing off. He said "our butts look better than our faces". Even back to the very first Apple 2, he made Steve Wozniak go back and invent a new power supply so they could build a computer that didn't need a fan. Nobody else thought like that.

Steve brought us great technology that also had great style. Like all innovators in human history, he built on what came before him and made something better.

[Edited 10/6/11 17:55pm]

Infamous review of original Mac

San Francisco Examiner, John C. Dvorak, 19 February 1984
The nature of the personal computer is simply not fully understood by companies like Apple (or anyone else for that matter). Apple makes the arrogant assumption of thinking that it knows what you want and need. It, unfortunately, leaves the “why” out of the equation - as in “why would I want this?” The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a ‘mouse’. There is no evidence that people want to use these things.

It's a little late for folks on the east coast and midwest unless they want to to catch the late repeat, but in honor of Steve Jobs, TNT is re-airing their 1999 made-for-TV movie Pirates of Silicon Valley. The movie chronicles the rise of Apple Computer and Microsoft as they battle for supremacy in the early days of the computer revolution. It starred Noah Wyle of ER fame as Steve Jobs, Anthony Michael Hall as Bill Gates, and Joey Slotnick as Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak. The movie earned 5 Emmy nominations including one for Wyle for Best Actor in a Movie or Miniseries. The movie is re-airing at 8:00 pm EST and repeating at 10:00 pm EST on TNT.

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/nPNmp.jpg[/img:$uid]

Time magazine is releasing a special Steve Jobs commemorative issue on Oct 7, dedicating a full 21 pages to Apple's former CEO. The cover features a picture of a youthful-looking Jobs, taken by Norman Seeff back in 1984.

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V10LETBLUES said:

Infamous review of original Mac

San Francisco Examiner, John C. Dvorak, 19 February 1984
The nature of the personal computer is simply not fully understood by companies like Apple (or anyone else for that matter). Apple makes the arrogant assumption of thinking that it knows what you want and need. It, unfortunately, leaves the “why” out of the equation - as in “why would I want this?” The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a ‘mouse’. There is no evidence that people want to use these things.

I bet this guy feels like an ass now..

His most impressive feat was getting people to pay 600+ for a cell phone. A CELL PHONE!!!!!!! To pull that off was sheer genius.

SoLiDiFy said:

His most impressive feat was getting people to pay 600+ for a cell phone. A CELL PHONE!!!!!!! To pull that off was sheer genius.

... thats not his fault, pretty sure thats the Cell Phone companies fault.

You can buy droid phones for the same amount of money.

Droid X was in the 600 range.

V10LETBLUES said:

Infamous review of original Mac

San Francisco Examiner, John C. Dvorak, 19 February 1984
The nature of the personal computer is simply not fully understood by companies like Apple (or anyone else for that matter). Apple makes the arrogant assumption of thinking that it knows what you want and need. It, unfortunately, leaves the “why” out of the equation - as in “why would I want this?” The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a ‘mouse’. There is no evidence that people want to use these things.

Honestly, I HATE using a mouse! But there is not yet a better alternative.

That original Macintosh is still a really nice looking little computer

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/xMSWK.jpg[/img:$uid]

October 7, 2011

From Billboard:

That a man who never played an instrument or so much as sang a note professionally could be considered one of the greatest rock stars of this generation speaks to the impact Steve Jobs had on the music industry, and the legacy on it he leaves behind.

Following the news of Jobs' death Wednesday at age of 56, we went back to the drawing board to give the Apple innovator the appreciation he earned in the new issue of Billboard Magazine (out Friday). In our cover story, we also examine Jobs' legacy and examine his role in the mainstreaming of three products/services that changed the way we consume music (iPod, iTunes, iPhone).

Also In this special issue:

• A Q&A with U2 manager Paul McGuinness about Jobs and his legacy.
• What now for Apple? An in-depth look ahead.
• Tracking the rise of iTunes and the advent of digital music retailing.
• Those ads. Where would Feist and the Ting Tings be without them? A look at the biggest sales impact on songs featured in Apple's ever-savvy marketing.
• The guy could talk. We round up some of Jobs' most quotable moments.

alandail said:

SquirrelMeat said:

RIP Mr Jobs, a huge part of PC development, but lets not overplay his role. His genius was as a salesman.

This comment has been bugging me all day, I finally figured out how to express why. Simplying Steve Jobs' contributions to being a salesmam is like someone saying Prince is just a guitar player.

Steve didn't just sell products, he stripped away the complexity without taking away the power.

Steve brought us great technology that also had great style. Like all innovators in human history, he built on what came before him and made something better.

Steve did a wonderful job pushing others. It helped change the industry for the better. But his skill was as a motivator and salesman, not the innovator he is made out to be.

He employed or purchased innovation. He then stylized it and hyped it.

Apple are the kings of hype. They sell a lifestyle more than innovation. Anyone tech savi knows the specs are actually very poor. My Imac doesn't ooze innovation. It oozes style. My Windows 7 PC is far more powerful and advanced.

As for simple? Lets say I want to edit a home movie of my kids made on my HD Camera.

On my netbook, plug the camera in the USB, edit it native in free software. Burn or copy USB.

On my ipad. Wait for it to encode on to my imac. Open up third party software like handbrake, re-encode the video to fit pad/pod, put it in Iphoto, sync with itunes, wait for itunes to sync with the pad, then begin to edit in the once I have re-purchased imovie for ipad. Then decide what hoops I would have to jump through to export it to get it the grandparents.

Is that the innovation of simplicity?

728huey said:

It's a little late for folks on the east coast and midwest unless they want to to catch the late repeat, but in honor of Steve Jobs, TNT is re-airing their 1999 made-for-TV movie Pirates of Silicon Valley. The movie chronicles the rise of Apple Computer and Microsoft as they battle for supremacy in the early days of the computer revolution. It starred Noah Wyle of ER fame as Steve Jobs, Anthony Michael Hall as Bill Gates, and Joey Slotnick as Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak. The movie earned 5 Emmy nominations including one for Wyle for Best Actor in a Movie or Miniseries. The movie is re-airing at 8:00 pm EST and repeating at 10:00 pm EST on TNT.

Wow, I never knew about this. Thanks for posting.

One of the things I've recently learned about Steve Jobs that has helped remove the rose colored glasses I wore when thinking of him is that he had a daughter by a girlfriend, prior to marrying Laura, that he initially refused to acknowledge. He literally denied paternity and claimed sterility. The reason why I found this startling, odd and sad all at the same time is because his own bio dad initially denied him. He remained estranged from his bio dad throughout his adult life. Its funny how we repeat the mistakes our parents make without really trying. He found his bio sister and rebuilt a relationship with the daughter he initally denied which is great. It shows us that there is time to rebuild bridges we've destroyed. He even rebuilt the bridge with Apple, the same company that fired him but later rehired him to their benefit. This man has led a pretty damned interesting and productive life. Remarkable.

When I first learned of his passing I shed a tear. The only other public figure to have that affect on me was Michael Jackson. I think of MJ's glove and Steve's black t-neck and jeans.

HotGritz said:

728huey said:

It's a little late for folks on the east coast and midwest unless they want to to catch the late repeat, but in honor of Steve Jobs, TNT is re-airing their 1999 made-for-TV movie Pirates of Silicon Valley. The movie chronicles the rise of Apple Computer and Microsoft as they battle for supremacy in the early days of the computer revolution. It starred Noah Wyle of ER fame as Steve Jobs, Anthony Michael Hall as Bill Gates, and Joey Slotnick as Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak. The movie earned 5 Emmy nominations including one for Wyle for Best Actor in a Movie or Miniseries. The movie is re-airing at 8:00 pm EST and repeating at 10:00 pm EST on TNT.

Wow, I never knew about this. Thanks for posting.

Its not bad. A bit cheezy. They make Bill out a a thief and Steve as oddball.

Mac heads often get suprised at the opening when they realise that Microsoft actually stepped in and saved Apple from going under in the late 90's.

SquirrelMeat said:

HotGritz said:

Wow, I never knew about this. Thanks for posting.

Its not bad. A bit cheezy. They make Bill out a a thief and Steve as oddball.

Mac heads often get suprised at the opening when they realise that Microsoft actually stepped in and saved Apple from going under in the late 90's.

I mentioned this on Twitter when so many were voicing their disapproval of Bill Gates trending on the same day Steve died. I swear I had no idea so many people disliked Bill. Bill and Steve were actually friends. Bill wouldnt' have given that $150 mill up to just any ole body.

George Lucas on Steve Jobs

October 7, 2011

by Pat Sellers

While Steve Jobs' greatest legacy is Apple, many people forget that the bulk of his wealth comes from Walt Disney, where he was the largest shareholder and an incomparable influence on how to delight and entertain kids.

"He did things because they were fun and cool," moviemaker George Lucas told me this morning, summing up Jobs' magic formula. Jobs' journey into the entertainment business began with Lucas, who sold him a tiny computer-graphics business, for $10 million, in 1986. This was during Jobs' time away from Apple. He named the company Pixar Animation Studios and went on to reformulate kids' movies with Toy Story and a string of other hits. Jobs sold Pixar to Disney for $7.4 billion in 2006.

Lucas, who himself transformed the film business with Star Wars and other blockbusters, says that Jobs leaves us with a key career lesson: "For any entrepreneur or corporate executive, if they don't love the product and love the job--if they're not passionate--it doesn't work longterm.

"Steve was way, way out there," adds Lucas, who contends that he is a lot like Jobs and is proud of it. "I make movies that nobody thinks are going to work. Steve made products that nobody thinks would work."

Last year, after Apple launched the iPad--to a chorus of skeptics, as you may recall--Lucas says that he and Jobs joked with each other about how their creations tended to be too odd, too new, and too mold-breaking to be instantly acceptable. "It took about a week and a half for people to realize that the iPad was the greatest thing to ever hit the earth."

http://postcards.blogs.fo...teve-jobs/

HotGritz said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Its not bad. A bit cheezy. They make Bill out a a thief and Steve as oddball.

Mac heads often get suprised at the opening when they realise that Microsoft actually stepped in and saved Apple from going under in the late 90's.

I mentioned this on Twitter when so many were voicing their disapproval of Bill Gates trending on the same day Steve died. I swear I had no idea so many people disliked Bill. Bill and Steve were actually friends. Bill wouldnt' have given that $150 mill up to just any ole body.

Yeah, it will be interesting to see the reaction when Bill dies. Both Bill and Steve helped transform an industry, but Bill brought about a planetary shift. Couple with his charity work and he is a cut above.

But he doesn't have the cool factor and his legacy will probably be played down.

Often I think Steve is John Lennon to Bill's Paul McCartney.

People love John Lennon, and view him as a visionary, but Paul McCartney was actually the better musician and songwriter, as well as the driving force behind the last four great albums.