Fauxie said:

As a white guy in Thailand, and with a wife who's Thai, I've experienced my share of racism and even harrassment, being told I've stoled Thai mens's womans but then conversely having to endure constant references to my nappy dugout.

what is a nappy dugout?

XxAxX said:

Fauxie said:

As a white guy in Thailand, and with a wife who's Thai, I've experienced my share of racism and even harrassment, being told I've stoled Thai mens's womans but then conversely having to endure constant references to my nappy dugout.

what is a nappy dugout?

Tittypants said:

I am referring to Prejudice of:

Skin Color

Sexual Preference

Religious Beliefs

Gender [or lack thereof]

Mac vs. PC Users

Coke vs. Pepsi

Name Brand vs. Off Brand [Foods, dry goods, shoes, electronics, heath products, etc.]

Political Stances

Vegans vs. Carnivores

Pro PETA vs. Anti-PETA

Pro anal vs. Anti Anal

Sewn in Weaves vs. Lace Fronts

Pro War vs. Anti War

Cable vs. Satellite

Day Lovers vs. Night Lovers

Titty vs. Ass [which do you prefer] wars

$ vs. Big Dick wars

Old People vs. Young People

....I'm pretty sure there are other things we put against each other, but this is all I could think of at the moment. How has this affected, or ruined your world????

[Edited 9/29/11 9:55am]

Having worked in offices for many years, I've seen all sorts of prejudices that aren't included in the above list.

I've seen tall people treated with more respect and short people treated with less respect, simply because of their height. There have been many studies done that came to the conclusion tall workers earn considerably more than the vertically challenged, it doesn't surprise me.

I've also heard of heavier job applicants who weren't hired because of the perception they wouldn't work as hard and don't have self discipline. I've seen obese managers frequently disrespected by their staff, simply because of their weight.

I myself had a situation many years ago when I didn't get a job and later I found out it was because the hiring manager was physically attracted to the other applicant, a beautiful young woman. Let's face it, if you're an attractive woman you have advantages in all aspects of life such as getting out of speeding tickets or receiving autographs and souvenirs from athletes or getting free VIP seats and backstage passes to concerts.

Prejudice is everywhere, it goes far beyond religion or race or nationality or sexual preference. However I do think sometimes people use it as an excuse to avoid accountability, which is unfortunate.

kewlschool said:

MarySharon said:

When one is considered as a threat you steer clear of it right then and there. You don't "pretend", you don't play the game of friendship during 8 years and you don't make fun of the person behind her back. Maybe I would have been the one to run away first If I had known but I wasn't in the best condition to distinguish what was real friendship and what wasn't.

This thread explains it partly

http://prince.org/msg/100/367543

linking edit

[Edited 9/30/11 7:41am]

MarySharon I totally understand your experience having been there myself. But each person has different levels of trust you can give them. Just remember that people must earn your trust.

I am still consistently faced with the self absorbed malicious people who generally don't care for other people unless there is some self interest in it (like sex/money/power). Most people you meet in this world are not authentic by any means. They pretend to be-but they are not.

I have an aunt for example that always has something negative to say about my mom. All these negative comments are just there to mask her jealousy of my mother. I believe if you have to talk behind peoples backs-you are most likely one of those inauthentic people.

Thanks. I'm still learning not to give my trust away to anybody.

PurpleJedi said:

paintedlady said:

I have a man that tells me he how much he likes the texture of my hair... the shade of my skin... the shade of my eyes....

he also tells me that if I didn't have what I have... he WOULD NOT be with me.

So to me prejudices affect me even if I try to not let them... because even the very man I am attracted to is with me only because I do not look like him. I would love to have the beautiful dark skin he does, eyes like his that look as dark as coal, and nap to my hair like his tightly curled naps that I find so soft and nice to run my fingers through....

or.... maybe I wouldn't like him so much if he didn't look the way he did too.

But when it comes to attraction it's not so much PREJUDICE as it is PREFERENCE.

True... I consider my preference towards black men just that...

but when any person sees any specific trait as "gross" or "ugly"....

it makes me think a person was taught to hate something. Its one thing to not prefer it... but to hate it all together, well that simply bothers me.... deeply.

Tittypants said:

ScarletScandal said:

Dating is hard as a gay black man. Either people only want me so I can be their flavor of the night, of to fulfill some fantasy based on stereoptypes. I love Asian men, but they jump over me to get to my room mate, just because he's White. I don't understand the whole Asian worship of White people, but when you look at their movies, the White man is always the villain. Someone once told me that an Asian person doesn't feel like they've arrived in America unless they have a White person on their arm. It's kind of hard for me to show people that I'm more than just my skin color. I've noticed that when I talk and interact with people and they get to see who I am as a person, then I gain some kind of leverage in the dating world. I'm not trying to blame my ethnicity or skin color for anything, because I'm proud of who and what I am. It's just a bother that I have to deal with other people's ignorance.

Some Asians seem to have this perception of black people for some reason. I don't get it myself....I've even seen some pretty racist recent movies scenes of Japanese people making fun of black people & Obama....

My roomie has been asking them why they have such a warped view of Black people, and they give pretty stupid reasons. One guy told him that we "talk too fast"

Another one said some other ignorant shit I'm not wasting any neurons to remember. I'm not really shocked though. They all think that other Asians are "ugly". I wonder why they have such a mentality about them selves and other ethnicities.

ScarletScandal said:

Tittypants said:

Some Asians seem to have this perception of black people for some reason. I don't get it myself....I've even seen some pretty racist recent movies scenes of Japanese people making fun of black people & Obama....

My roomie has been asking them why they have such a warped view of Black people, and they give pretty stupid reasons. One guy told him that we "talk too fast"

Another one said some other ignorant shit I'm not wasting any neurons to remember. I'm not really shocked though. They all think that other Asians are "ugly". I wonder why they have such a mentality about them selves and other ethnicities.

That shit sucks! I wonder who really put those negative things in Asian people's minds about black people though....

Tittypants said:

ScarletScandal said:

My roomie has been asking them why they have such a warped view of Black people, and they give pretty stupid reasons. One guy told him that we "talk too fast"

Another one said some other ignorant shit I'm not wasting any neurons to remember. I'm not really shocked though. They all think that other Asians are "ugly". I wonder why they have such a mentality about them selves and other ethnicities.

That shit sucks! I wonder who really put those negative things in Asian people's minds about black people though....

I LOVE me some Filipinos though. They give me all the play, which is fine with me because they're my favorite flavor or Asian

ScarletScandal said:

Tittypants said:

That shit sucks! I wonder who really put those negative things in Asian people's minds about black people though....

I LOVE me some Filipinos though. They give me all the play, which is fine with me because they're my favorite flavor or Asian

I think all types of Asian women are very attractive. It damn near blows my mind to see a busty one too

Tittypants said:

ScarletScandal said:

I LOVE me some Filipinos though. They give me all the play, which is fine with me because they're my favorite flavor or Asian

I think all types of Asian women are very attractive. It damn near blows my mind to see a busty one too

Yeah. They're gorgeous as well

Tittypants said:

ScarletScandal said:

I LOVE me some Filipinos though. They give me all the play, which is fine with me because they're my favorite flavor or Asian

I think all types of Asian women are very attractive. It damn near blows my mind to see a busty one too

x 1,000

paintedlady said:

PurpleJedi said:

But when it comes to attraction it's not so much PREJUDICE as it is PREFERENCE.

True... I consider my preference towards black men just that...

but when any person sees any specific trait as "gross" or "ugly"....

it makes me think a person was taught to hate something. Its one thing to not prefer it... but to hate it all together, well that simply bothers me.... deeply.

The way I see it...you can have a "reference" for what turns you on; big or small breasts, light or dark skin, straight or curly hair, dark or light eyes...but it isn't necessarily a "prejudice" until you dismiss someone with traits that you consider desireable simply because of that person's ethnicity/religion/race.

You like the traits that an African-American man possesses...if you met an Italian dude with similar traits - the hair, dark skin color, dark eyes, etc. (basically one of those "Sicilian" guys ) - would you turn him away because he's technically "white"?

kimrachell said:

• the way my husband and i get looked at in certain places because i'm white and he's brazilian.
• the way i get treated for being over weight, i really notice it i think because before i had my son i was really skinny, and when i was skinny i was treated so much better by people. i always got a job when i interviewed for it, and was told i was pretty all of the time. now things are so different. it annoys me, but i know most people judge by looks.
• where i used to live it was a social difference, i was considered poor, and the wealthy people in my neighborhood wanted nothing to do with me, because my husband didn't work for google, facebook, or standford.

I can relate a lot. My boyfriend and I are a couple everybody stares at and talks about. A lot of people question it that we truly love each other, because of the cultural difference and also because I am 8 years older than he is which sure would not matter to people a lot if we had the same skin colour.

I am a white woman who gets stared at because of her very light skin even in my home country . But when I am staying with my boyfriend in his country where there are hardly any white people and the few who are there are usually pretty tanned I often feel like an alien who landed at the wrong planet. My (dyed) red hair and me being very skinny doesn't help much either. I am stared at and being treated different from everybody else all the time. Some people love it to be around me as it makes them "cool" to have a white friend while others just treat me like shit because of my skin colour or try to take advantage of me. I have been asked if the sun never shines in my country and things like that . Then I tell them that I have never been as tanned in my life before as I am now . I got used to it to a certain degree, but I sure wish I would not stand out as much as I do and would be judged for the person i am and not for what I look like.

Serious said:

kimrachell said:

• the way my husband and i get looked at in certain places because i'm white and he's brazilian.
• the way i get treated for being over weight, i really notice it i think because before i had my son i was really skinny, and when i was skinny i was treated so much better by people. i always got a job when i interviewed for it, and was told i was pretty all of the time. now things are so different. it annoys me, but i know most people judge by looks.
• where i used to live it was a social difference, i was considered poor, and the wealthy people in my neighborhood wanted nothing to do with me, because my husband didn't work for google, facebook, or standford.

I can relate a lot. My boyfriend and I are a couple everybody stares at and talks about. A lot of people question it that we truly love each other, because of the cultural difference and also because I am 8 years older than he is which sure would not matter to people a lot if we had the same skin colour.

I am a white woman who gets stared at because of her very light skin even in my home country . But when I am staying with my boyfriend in his country where there are hardly any white people and the few who are there are usually pretty tanned I often feel like an alien who landed at the wrong planet. My (dyed) red hair and me being very skinny doesn't help much either. I am stared at and being treated different from everybody else all the time. Some people love it to be around me as it makes them "cool" to have a white friend while others just treat me like shit because of my skin colour or try to take advantage of me. I have been asked if the sun never shines in my country and things like that . Then I tell them that I have never been as tanned in my life before as I am now . I got used to it to a certain degree, but I sure wish I would not stand out as much as I do and would be judged for the person i am and not for what I look like.

^^^Thanks !

PurpleJedi said:

paintedlady said:

True... I consider my preference towards black men just that...

but when any person sees any specific trait as "gross" or "ugly"....

it makes me think a person was taught to hate something. Its one thing to not prefer it... but to hate it all together, well that simply bothers me.... deeply.

The way I see it...you can have a "reference" for what turns you on; big or small breasts, light or dark skin, straight or curly hair, dark or light eyes...but it isn't necessarily a "prejudice" until you dismiss someone with traits that you consider desireable simply because of that person's ethnicity/religion/race.

You like the traits that an African-American man possesses...if you met an Italian dude with similar traits - the hair, dark skin color, dark eyes, etc. (basically one of those "Sicilian" guys ) - would you turn him away because he's technically "white"?

I have actually dated all types... well almost. But I am open to it since I can find "handsome" in any package.

I think we all have our little quirks and preferences, but I think we also should have an exception to our own rules because our world is so diverse.

paintedlady said:

PurpleJedi said:

The way I see it...you can have a "reference" for what turns you on; big or small breasts, light or dark skin, straight or curly hair, dark or light eyes...but it isn't necessarily a "prejudice" until you dismiss someone with traits that you consider desireable simply because of that person's ethnicity/religion/race.

You like the traits that an African-American man possesses...if you met an Italian dude with similar traits - the hair, dark skin color, dark eyes, etc. (basically one of those "Sicilian" guys ) - would you turn him away because he's technically "white"?

I have actually dated all types... well almost. But I am open to it since I can find "handsome" in any package as long as it's BIG.

I think we all have our little quirks and preferences, but I think we also should have an exception to our own rules because our world is so diverse.

There...fixed it for ya'...

(come on Sandra...you set yourself up for that one!)

PurpleJedi said:

paintedlady said:

I have actually dated all types... well almost. But I am open to it since I can find "handsome" in any package as long as it's BIG.

I think we all have our little quirks and preferences, but I think we also should have an exception to our own rules because our world is so diverse.

There...fixed it for ya'...

(come on Sandra...you set yourself up for that one!)

AMEN!!!!

Serious said:

kimrachell said:

• the way my husband and i get looked at in certain places because i'm white and he's brazilian.
• the way i get treated for being over weight, i really notice it i think because before i had my son i was really skinny, and when i was skinny i was treated so much better by people. i always got a job when i interviewed for it, and was told i was pretty all of the time. now things are so different. it annoys me, but i know most people judge by looks.
• where i used to live it was a social difference, i was considered poor, and the wealthy people in my neighborhood wanted nothing to do with me, because my husband didn't work for google, facebook, or standford.

I can relate a lot. My boyfriend and I are a couple everybody stares at and talks about. A lot of people question it that we truly love each other, because of the cultural difference and also because I am 8 years older than he is which sure would not matter to people a lot if we had the same skin colour.

I am a white woman who gets stared at because of her very light skin even in my home country . But when I am staying with my boyfriend in his country where there are hardly any white people and the few who are there are usually pretty tanned I often feel like an alien who landed at the wrong planet. My (dyed) red hair and me being very skinny doesn't help much either. I am stared at and being treated different from everybody else all the time. Some people love it to be around me as it makes them "cool" to have a white friend while others just treat me like shit because of my skin colour or try to take advantage of me. I have been asked if the sun never shines in my country and things like that . Then I tell them that I have never been as tanned in my life before as I am now . I got used to it to a certain degree, but I sure wish I would not stand out as much as I do and would be judged for the person i am and not for what I look like.

I had no idea you had endured this

Fucked up alot of good people i know.

Pokeno4Money said:

Tittypants said:

I am referring to Prejudice of:

Skin Color

Sexual Preference

Religious Beliefs

Gender [or lack thereof]

Mac vs. PC Users

Coke vs. Pepsi

Name Brand vs. Off Brand [Foods, dry goods, shoes, electronics, heath products, etc.]

Political Stances

Vegans vs. Carnivores

Pro PETA vs. Anti-PETA

Pro anal vs. Anti Anal

Sewn in Weaves vs. Lace Fronts

Pro War vs. Anti War

Cable vs. Satellite

Day Lovers vs. Night Lovers

Titty vs. Ass [which do you prefer] wars

$ vs. Big Dick wars

Old People vs. Young People

....I'm pretty sure there are other things we put against each other, but this is all I could think of at the moment. How has this affected, or ruined your world????

[Edited 9/29/11 9:55am]

Having worked in offices for many years, I've seen all sorts of prejudices that aren't included in the above list.

I've seen tall people treated with more respect and short people treated with less respect, simply because of their height. There have been many studies done that came to the conclusion tall workers earn considerably more than the vertically challenged, it doesn't surprise me.

I've also heard of heavier job applicants who weren't hired because of the perception they wouldn't work as hard and don't have self discipline. I've seen obese managers frequently disrespected by their staff, simply because of their weight.

I myself had a situation many years ago when I didn't get a job and later I found out it was because the hiring manager was physically attracted to the other applicant, a beautiful young woman. Let's face it, if you're an attractive woman you have advantages in all aspects of life such as getting out of speeding tickets or receiving autographs and souvenirs from athletes or getting free VIP seats and backstage passes to concerts.

Prejudice is everywhere, it goes far beyond religion or race or nationality or sexual preference. However I do think sometimes people use it as an excuse to avoid accountability, which is unfortunate.

These are some great things I've totally forgot add & I totally agree with them. I'm happy you've brought these things up!

Pokeno4Money said:

Tittypants said:

I am referring to Prejudice of:

Skin Color

Sexual Preference

Religious Beliefs

Gender [or lack thereof]

Mac vs. PC Users

Coke vs. Pepsi

Name Brand vs. Off Brand [Foods, dry goods, shoes, electronics, heath products, etc.]

Political Stances

Vegans vs. Carnivores

Pro PETA vs. Anti-PETA

Pro anal vs. Anti Anal

Sewn in Weaves vs. Lace Fronts

Pro War vs. Anti War

Cable vs. Satellite

Day Lovers vs. Night Lovers

Titty vs. Ass [which do you prefer] wars

$ vs. Big Dick wars

Old People vs. Young People

....I'm pretty sure there are other things we put against each other, but this is all I could think of at the moment. How has this affected, or ruined your world????

[Edited 9/29/11 9:55am]

Having worked in offices for many years, I've seen all sorts of prejudices that aren't included in the above list.

I've seen tall people treated with more respect and short people treated with less respect, simply because of their height. There have been many studies done that came to the conclusion tall workers earn considerably more than the vertically challenged, it doesn't surprise me.

I've also heard of heavier job applicants who weren't hired because of the perception they wouldn't work as hard and don't have self discipline. I've seen obese managers frequently disrespected by their staff, simply because of their weight.

I myself had a situation many years ago when I didn't get a job and later I found out it was because the hiring manager was physically attracted to the other applicant, a beautiful young woman. Let's face it, if you're an attractive woman you have advantages in all aspects of life such as getting out of speeding tickets or receiving autographs and souvenirs from athletes or getting free VIP seats and backstage passes to concerts.

Prejudice is everywhere, it goes far beyond religion or race or nationality or sexual preference. However I do think sometimes people use it as an excuse to avoid accountability, which is unfortunate.

Wait, wait... Dont forget that along those lines men USUALLY make a MUCH higher wage than a women in any given job...

MarySharon said:

Serious said:

I can relate a lot. My boyfriend and I are a couple everybody stares at and talks about. A lot of people question it that we truly love each other, because of the cultural difference and also because I am 8 years older than he is which sure would not matter to people a lot if we had the same skin colour.

I am a white woman who gets stared at because of her very light skin even in my home country . But when I am staying with my boyfriend in his country where there are hardly any white people and the few who are there are usually pretty tanned I often feel like an alien who landed at the wrong planet. My (dyed) red hair and me being very skinny doesn't help much either. I am stared at and being treated different from everybody else all the time. Some people love it to be around me as it makes them "cool" to have a white friend while others just treat me like shit because of my skin colour or try to take advantage of me. I have been asked if the sun never shines in my country and things like that . Then I tell them that I have never been as tanned in my life before as I am now . I got used to it to a certain degree, but I sure wish I would not stand out as much as I do and would be judged for the person i am and not for what I look like.

I had no idea you had endured this

Thank you

Tittypants said:

ScarletScandal said:

My roomie has been asking them why they have such a warped view of Black people, and they give pretty stupid reasons. One guy told him that we "talk too fast"

Another one said some other ignorant shit I'm not wasting any neurons to remember. I'm not really shocked though. They all think that other Asians are "ugly". I wonder why they have such a mentality about them selves and other ethnicities.

That shit sucks! I wonder who really put those negative things in Asian people's minds about black people though....

History, my friend, history. The entire world has been infected with the Western ideas about black & white. This shit goes back hundreds of years, and will be with us until the end.

I think everyone has experienced prejudice in their lives. Certainly some experience it more than others but we all have been judged by something superficial about us.

And we all hold prejudices. When I see a teenage boy with his pants belted just above his knees my first thought tends to be "what an idiot!" but he could be a straight-A student for all I know. Captain of the debate team and bound for Harvard Law. That's prejudice.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to overcome them, cause we absolutly should. And I do. When I have such thoughts I honestly mentally catch myself and change what I'm thinking.

CarrieMpls said:

And we all hold prejudices. When I see a teenage boy with his pants belted just above his knees my first thought tends to be "what an idiot!" but he could be a straight-A student for all I know. Captain of the debate team and bound for Harvard Law. That's prejudice.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to overcome them, cause we absolutly should. And I do. When I have such thoughts I honestly mentally catch myself and change what I'm thinking.

I try to overcome them as well. By now my first thought tends to be "to each his own". Besides, if the same teenage boy get his foot caught in his pants ad fall down that won't be the fault of prejudices held against him (if there is some). And one can say "I told you so". Live and learn.

Being 6'5", I am ALWAYS asked to get shit off the top shelves, dust tall furniture, and look over crowds to find people.

Nobody does this to 5'5" people. It's fucking prejudice. Heightism is at an all-time high.

And stop asking me if I play basketball before I start asking you how long you've been making toys and shoes.

[Edited 10/4/11 16:43pm]

FauxReal said:

Being 6'5", I am ALWAYS asked to get shit off the top shelves, dust tall furniture, and look over crowds to find people.

Nobody does this to 5'5" people. It's fucking prejudice. Heightism is at an all-time high.

And stop asking me if I play basketball before I start asking you how long you've been making toys and shoes.

[Edited 10/4/11 16:43pm]

Damn dude, I have those exact same problems . I swear, those EXACT ones....

Tittypants said:

FauxReal said:

Being 6'5", I am ALWAYS asked to get shit off the top shelves, dust tall furniture, and look over crowds to find people.

Nobody does this to 5'5" people. It's fucking prejudice. Heightism is at an all-time high.

And stop asking me if I play basketball before I start asking you how long you've been making toys and shoes.

[Edited 10/4/11 16:43pm]

Damn dude, I have those exact same problems . I swear, those EXACT ones....

Yeah it sucks. But I'm sure we'll rise above our oppressors. Stay strong, my tall brother.

FauxReal said:

Tittypants said:

Damn dude, I have those exact same problems . I swear, those EXACT ones....

Yeah it sucks. But I'm sure we'll rise above our oppressors. Stay strong, my tall brother.

You too!