A couple of online conversations with TheFreakerFantastic (who is well-known for trying to "convince" people like me and Fauxie that we're actually homosexual ) inspired this thread.

Does it make me gay when I tell my male friends that I love them (and actually really mean it)?

Does it make me gay when it's part of my (org-)humour to "flirt" with male orgers (whose sexual desire for me is also meant to be humorous for the most part, as I'm still a "youngling", officially)?

Does it make me gay to proudly hug me best friends (male or female) when I see them after a long time?

Do other people even have the right to start "assuming" and call it "hypocrisy" when you do such things (which may be "gay" to them), even though you don't call yourself a homosexual? Where does homosexuality start? I think, it's mostly due to defining yourself. I do all the things above, which may be "gay" to some people, but don't really identify myself with the gay community; and that is, after all, the only thing that matters to me.

If the whole world changed the "official definitions" to homosexuality, so that all the things I do are homosexual, then so be it. I'm gay. It wouldn't bother me at all. But why try to force it onto someone?

And last but not least... does it make me gay when I let seven men suck me cock and open up their assholes for me every day after dinner? Why?!

Discuss.

Side note: Be careful, though: Participating in this debate makes you extremely gay. Like, really. Thoroughly, 100% fisted, queer.

Dave, you're going down a slippery slope towards scoring

rufies and poppers between public blowjobs on crowded

, dimly lit South Beach dancefloors late at night after

the cabaret performance and Avalon dinners and martinis

with friends who have no clue that the football season has

started but chirp endlessly about the current fall lineup

from the major fashion houses.

Please, follow the pussy to vagtopia.

slippery rope-to-slope Freudian slip edit

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Honestly, why would anyone care enough to make an accusation....other than the rejected females that just want you to pound them furiously with your cock?

the spectrum of responses is KILLING ME!!!

Yes.

u could b bisexual... sometimes because of my interactions with women, i think i am a closet bisexual

its easier 4 me to tell them i love them and hug them and tell them they look great..... with men i find it awkward.... yet i've only ever been intimate with men

Depends.

What does this do for you:

If your first thought is "she needs to clean up that kitchen" you're probably gay.

If it was something more predictable, then nope

FuzzyWitch said:

u could b bisexual... sometimes because of my interactions with women, i think i am a closet bisexual

its easier 4 me to tell them i love them and hug them and tell them they look great..... with men i find it awkward.... yet i've only ever been intimate with men

It could just be a product of age though.

I've known several guys who proported that they were bi-sexual only to later (many years later)

just come out as completely straight. Like it was a 'phase' or something.

A few have maintained bi-sexual 'status' until now, but are always with women or in

relationships with women, seldom every touching men.

Though a few are exclusively with men and claim to be bisexual.

Almost all the girls I know who've been bi-sexual are married to men now.

imago said:

FuzzyWitch said:

u could b bisexual... sometimes because of my interactions with women, i think i am a closet bisexual

its easier 4 me to tell them i love them and hug them and tell them they look great..... with men i find it awkward.... yet i've only ever been intimate with men

It could just be a product of age though.

I've known several guys who proported that they were bi-sexual only to later (many years later)

just come out as completely straight. Like it was a 'phase' or something.

A few have maintained bi-sexual 'status' until now, but are always with women or in

relationships with women, seldom every touching men.

Though a few are exclusively with men and claim to be bisexual.

Almost all the girls I know who've been bi-sexual are married to men now.

or it could b a result of bad relationships with men

i wont let u wish me a happy 60th... with a

Are you hard when you're hugging them and how long does the hug last?

If you answer yes to the first question and answer the second in inches rather than seconds, you're probably gay.

FauxReal said:

Are you hard when you're hugging them and how long does the hug last?

If you answer yes to the first question and answer the second in inches rather than seconds, you're probably gay.

Exactly.

I can't believe that some people are even entertaining the thought that caring deeply for someone of the same sex or even hugging them means you're sexually attracted to them.

Fucked up.

JustErin said:

FauxReal said:

Are you hard when you're hugging them and how long does the hug last?

If you answer yes to the first question and answer the second in inches rather than seconds, you're probably gay.

Exactly.

I can't believe that some people are even entertaining the thought that caring deeply for someone of the same sex or even hugging them means you're sexually attracted to them.

Fucked up.

I actually didn't read the op. I just replied to the thread title.

Genesia said:

JustErin said:

Exactly.

I can't believe that some people are even entertaining the thought that caring deeply for someone of the same sex or even hugging them means you're sexually attracted to them.

Fucked up.

I actually didn't read the op. I just replied to the thread title.

Awesome.

FauxReal said:

Are you hard when you're hugging them and how long does the hug last?

If you answer yes to the first question and answer the second in inches rather than seconds, you're probably gay.

That's the point. I don't feel sexually attracted to any men and I never feel the need to hug men. I do it when I feel an affection based on friendship, as if that person was my own brother.

I'm quite sure I'm everything but gay, I was just curious about how other people thought about this and how narrow-minded some people really are when it comes to sexuality.

imago said:

Dave, you're going down a slippery slope towards scoring

rufies and poppers between public blowjobs on crowded

, dimly lit South Beach dancefloors late at night after

the cabaret performance and Avalon dinners and martinis

with friends who have no clue that the football season has

started but chirp endlessly about the current fall lineup

from the major fashion houses.

Please, follow the pussy to vagtopia.

slippery rope-to-slope Freudian slip edit

[Edited 9/14/11 4:28am]

Oh, that sounds lovely! You're a real poet, Dan. You sure are very gay, with that kind of sensual talking and shit.

JustErin said:

Honestly, why would anyone care enough to make an accusation....other than the rejected females that just want you to pound them furiously with your cock?

Funnily enough, it happened only once that a woman (actually, girl [well, actually, half man due to her body language, language and beer consumption rate]) called me gay (she seriously thought it would hurt me feelings), but she was one of those girls you know are probably going to end up as a car-mechanic, cheap-ass prostitute, or in prison, so it didn't really bother me.

Other than that, it was always blokes who "accused" me of being gay.

Maybe they wanted me to pound them furiously with my cock?

FuzzyWitch said:

u could b bisexual... sometimes because of my interactions with women, i think i am a closet bisexual

its easier 4 me to tell them i love them and hug them and tell them they look great..... with men i find it awkward.... yet i've only ever been intimate with men

I could be. I could also be an antelope, as I have two ears, a pair of eyes, a tongue, some teeth, genitals and a bit of hair on my body. However, I'm still quite sure I'm not even bisexual.

Not sure about the antelope thing though.

connorhawke said:

Depends.

What does this do for you:

If your first thought is "she needs to clean up that kitchen" you're probably gay.

If it was something more predictable, then nope

Actually, I was a bit dissapointed that she wore so much and that I couldn't see her whole bum.

But my second thought was that the kitchen is a bit ugly .

Nope. Not gay. I've had the pleasure of meeting you and you were lovely.

the first Prince album you purchased was an entry ticket into homosexuality. Didn't they teach you anything in school?

NDRU said:

the first Prince album you purchased was an entry ticket into homosexuality. Didn't they teach you anything in school?

LOL ^^^

Loving men not gay.

Being in love or sexually turned on by men is gay or at least bi-sexual.

I know when my brother hugs me (we don't see each other often-he is in a band). He hugs me longer than the norm. So when people see us, that don't know us, the assume that something gay must be going on. It also doesn't help that I normally dress 2 the 9's.

Oh and the answer to your question Dave, yes you are.

These days, if a man shines his shoes, he's gay. I don't think there is much a man can do that wouldn't be labeled as gay. Live your life the way you want to live it. If you want to hug another man in friendship, then do it. There is absolutely nothing sexual about that. I hug women all the time but I'm not attracted to them and I certainly wouldn't label myself as straight for hugging a woman. How silly!

Any man that is intelligent and comfortable with himself and his heterosexuality really doesn't give a fuck if people think he is gay when he's not. Why would he? It's not like it's an insult and it's not like it would hinder him from getting women.

I knew several guys that are accused of being gay because they take care of themselves, dress amazing and don't totally freak out if another dude flirts with them. They just laugh off being called gay and go fuck super hot chicks.

Dave1992 said:

FuzzyWitch said:

u could b bisexual... sometimes because of my interactions with women, i think i am a closet bisexual

its easier 4 me to tell them i love them and hug them and tell them they look great..... with men i find it awkward.... yet i've only ever been intimate with men

I could be. I could also be an antelope, as I have two ears, a pair of eyes, a tongue, some teeth, genitals and a bit of hair on my body. However, I'm still quite sure I'm not even bisexual.

Not sure about the antelope thing though.

Many people only see machos or gays. It's great when you're straight but not macho.

Sometimes I have doubted about being bi too. Maybe we could try to resolve our doubts together... Joking.

You could say like Brett Anderson: I'm a bisexual who has never had an homosexual experience. Seriously.

Actually, sexual confusion is awesome. Bowie made an entire career of it. Well, more or less.

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Do you even have to ask why people may assume that you are gay?

It seems to me that you purposely project an androgynous image, whether it is for entertainment or it is the real you.

I'm surprised that someone who is seemingly so in touch with themself would even ask these questions.

I don't think hugging a friend is gay (unless you want more than the hug).

Fuqqit though, you know what you want!

Dave, your stunningly beautiful female features and romance novel style of loving are what make you gay.