If so, how, exactly?

I seriously doubt that there's any real advantage of macs in this department, unless you are a fan of consumer level media software (iMovie, GarageBand, etc.) which are etremely elegant solutions for sound and video design if you're doing it at a consumer level. Garage Band is far easier to manipulate than Sonar(R) for example.

But if you're doing professional level work, the PC matches the mac, and even has more offerings when it comes to CAD (engineering/archetecture) type programs. I think what you run into when it comes to video editing is that most people will use macs in combination with software like Final Cut Pro, so if you're working on a larger production and want to share projects, it's just simpler to do it from a singular platform.

So, again, I really don't know if there's any advantage at all of using macs now. That being said, I'd dread having to do any creative work on a PC. Especially, being seen in public and trendy places with a PC laptop instead of a MacBook pro---it would be worse than wearing last seasons Prada, wouldn't it?

i have no idea. let me consult The Oracle to see

the reply is:

hope this helps!

imago said:

I seriously doubt that there's any real advantage of macs in this department, unless you are a fan of consumer level media software (iMovie, GarageBand, etc.) which are etremely elegant solutions for sound and video design if you're doing it at a consumer level. Garage Band is far easier to manipulate than Sonar(R) for example.

But if you're doing professional level work, the PC matches the mac, and even has more offerings when it comes to CAD (engineering/archetecture) type programs. I think what you run into when it comes to video editing is that most people will use macs in combination with software like Final Cut Pro, so if you're working on a larger production and want to share projects, it's just simpler to do it from a singular platform.

So, again, I really don't know if there's any advantage at all of using macs now. That being said, I'd dread having to do any creative work on a PC. Especially, being seen in public and trendy places with a PC laptop instead of a MacBook pro---it would be worse than wearing last seasons Prada, wouldn't it?

XxAxX said:

i have no idea. let me consult The Oracle to see

the reply is:

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hope this helps!

Thanks.

ZombieKitten said:

All the creatives I know use macs. That's just the way it is, STILL. We are very glad not to be designing double page spreads on these however http://vectronicsapplewor...snap10.jpg

Friend of mine is looking to get into graphic design and a friend of hers has told her that everyone in this field uses Mac. While this is probably close to the truth, I've yet to hear exactly how Mac is better for the job.

Ace said:

Something doesn't have to be the best, the fastest, the cheapest or the easiest to become the industry standard. That being said, industry standard is still industry standard.

That's all I have to say about that. I've expressed my opinions about all things Apple/Mac enough already.

ZombieKitten said:

Ace said:

Friend of mine is looking to get into graphic design and a friend of hers has told her that everyone in this field uses Mac. While this is probably close to the truth, I've yet to hear exactly how Mac is better for the job.

It's not that its better I guess, but that it's industry standard. Just like in the public sector windows 98 is still standard.

Holy crap stay out of my head! This post wasn't here when I started writing mine.

Cerebus said:

So, let me recap here:

Macs are better for graphic designers because, "Everybody uses them!" and "They're nice to look at!"

Am I misquoting at all?

Ace said:

So, let me recap here:

Macs are better for graphic designers because, "Everybody uses them!" and "They're nice to look at!"

Am I misquoting at all?

Nnnnnope.

I should indicate, at this point, that I would make sweet, sweet love to my iPhone if its input were bigger.

I think that Mac's are popular for high end (video, graphics, sound) pro computer users because they are fully functional and work fantastically well straight out of the box without any fucking around with accessories or drivers. The operating system is always intuitive and snappy. The hardware is known to be generally very reliable (makes sense considering all the parts are scrutinised by one company to make them work as effectively as possible together) and anything you plug into them seems to work without any hassle.

Spending hours upon hours of downtime installing, fixing and upgrading things throughout the year is not what creatives want to spend their energy on. A computer in their eyes is simply a tool to get ideas across and therefore it should operate as transparently as possible.

The extra couple hundred dollars is more than worth it for those reasons IMO.

nd33 said:

I think that Mac's are popular for high end (video, graphics, sound) pro computer users because they are fully functional and work fantastically well straight out of the box without any fucking around with accessories or drivers. The operating system is always intuitive and snappy. The hardware is known to be generally very reliable (makes sense considering all the parts are scrutinised by one company to make them work as effectively as possible together) and anything you plug into them seems to work without any hassle.

I could say the same about my Windows 7 machine (and even my Vista one).

Spending hours upon hours of downtime installing, fixing and upgrading things throughout the year is not what creatives want to spend their energy on.

C'mon, man. I know zip-de-dee-doo-dah about computers and I haven't spent hour-one on any of those things.

Again, don't get me wrong: I love the aesthetics of a Mac (and I believe the iPhone is superior to any other smartphone), but the argument, in essence, appears to be "Er...uh...'Cause all the other graphic designers would laugh at you!"

Such are the misconceptions about PCs. Unless the user is a complete moron, these problems haven't existed for a looooong time.

My recent experience was when I was at our local expert store for video/audio. This is the biggest company of it's sort in our country. The guy I always deal with was putting together a powerful system for a TV network.

I've dealt with these guys for about 12 years and I trust their expertise.

The network wanted a PC system because their other computers were PCs so they wanted to keep compatibility. They fumbled around for several days getting the equipment to play nice together. Constant crashes. Then they tried it running from a Mac. Instant success and stable as a rock.

I don't know why nor do I need to know why it didn't work. This is my point!

If a computer is having issues, I don't care as to why. Just work already so I can get busy.

This is not an isolated case of a PC causing headaches. I'd be more than happy to leave PC's behind if I was your friend. The price difference isn't even that much these days so it's a no brainer for me.

Obviously some PC users will be lucky and never have to find nerds to fix their shit

Ace said:

ZombieKitten said:

Ace said:

So, let me recap here:

Macs are better for graphic designers because, "Everybody uses them!" and "They're nice to look at!"

Am I misquoting at all?

Thats right. Everyone that I send art to accepts my format and an ugly computer would offend me

What format could a PC user not accept?

nd33 said:

My recent experience was when I was at our local expert store for video/audio. This is the biggest company of it's sort in our country. The guy I always deal with was putting together a powerful system for a TV network.

I've dealt with these guys for about 12 years and I trust their expertise.

The network wanted a PC system because their other computers were PCs so they wanted to keep compatibility. They fumbled around for several days getting the equipment to play nice together. Constant crashes. Then they tried it running from a Mac. Instant success and stable as a rock.

I don't know why nor do I need to know why it didn't work. This is my point!

If a computer is having issues, I don't care as to why. Just work already so I can get busy.

This is not an isolated case of a PC causing headaches. I'd be more than happy to leave PC's behind if I was your friend. The price difference isn't even that much these days so it's a no brainer for me.

Obviously some PC users will be lucky and never have to find nerds to fix their shit

It didn't work because they were trying to get something old to fit with something new. Buy the right equipment and it wouldn't be a problem.

ZombieKitten said:

Ace said:

So, let me recap here:

Macs are better for graphic designers because, "Everybody uses them!" and "They're nice to look at!"

Am I misquoting at all?

Thats right. Everyone that I send art to accepts my format and an ugly computer would offend me

Contrary to popular belief, there are some aesthetically beautiful computers out there now that are not designed in Cupertino.

What is this format of which you speak?

Ace said:

ZombieKitten said:

All the creatives I know use macs. That's just the way it is, STILL. We are very glad not to be designing double page spreads on these however http://vectronicsapplewor...snap10.jpg

Friend of mine is looking to get into graphic design and a friend of hers has told her that everyone in this field uses Mac. While this is probably close to the truth, I've yet to hear exactly how Mac is better for the job.

It doesn't matter whether a Mac truly is better for design or not. That is the perception - and most creative operations buy computers accordingly.

If your friend is trying to get into graphic design and is told that everyone in that field uses Macs - accept it. Because it's true. It makes no sense for her to use a PC when the industry is based on Mac.

Ace said:

I do high-end graphic work on both MAC & PC. For me, the only difference is in the controls.

ZombieKitten said:

Ace said:

Contrary to popular belief, there are some aesthetically beautiful computers out there now that are not designed in Cupertino.

What is this format of which you speak?

Fonts for example.

Isn't OS-X's color management scheme more suitable for print and graffics?

For example, the color you see on your computer screne is more likely to be the color your printer produces, because OS-X doesn't use RGB internally, but something else? I can't remember---someone had explained it to me when a photo I printed from my PC (a few years back) looked all wonky compared what I was seeingo on my computer screne.

A few years back on a PC is a long time.

Cerebus said:

A few years back on a PC is a long time.

But, I think Windows Vista and Windows 7 still uses the same color management scheme, no? It's calle iRGP or something like that. It's been in place since 2003 or something like that, with no real improvements.

The machines have gotten better for sure, but the OS still works the same, minus bells and whistles and some security changes.

Cerebus said:

nd33 said:

My recent experience was when I was at our local expert store for video/audio. This is the biggest company of it's sort in our country. The guy I always deal with was putting together a powerful system for a TV network.

I've dealt with these guys for about 12 years and I trust their expertise.

The network wanted a PC system because their other computers were PCs so they wanted to keep compatibility. They fumbled around for several days getting the equipment to play nice together. Constant crashes. Then they tried it running from a Mac. Instant success and stable as a rock.

I don't know why nor do I need to know why it didn't work. This is my point!

If a computer is having issues, I don't care as to why. Just work already so I can get busy.

This is not an isolated case of a PC causing headaches. I'd be more than happy to leave PC's behind if I was your friend. The price difference isn't even that much these days so it's a no brainer for me.

Obviously some PC users will be lucky and never have to find nerds to fix their shit

It didn't work because they were trying to get something old to fit with something new. Buy the right equipment and it wouldn't be a problem.

They are a team of experts who deal directly with manufacturers and creators of the software.

The truth of the matter was one format had major issues and the other had none. You can't argue with the fact that Mac is an elegant and reliable format. Many PCs are too but with PCs there are thousands of variables as to that being reality when it comes to using PCs simply because the hardware and software is so vast in numbers and fragmented.

I just can't see any advantage from a professional point of view for someone involved in high end media, to go PC except it will be a little cheaper in terms of initial purchase cost (unless there was a specific piece of software needed that was PC only, but even then, all Macs these days can run windows as well as a PC apparently, even though I've never been compelled to try).

Never had a prob with Macs. That's just my experience bro!

nd33 said:

Cerebus said:

It didn't work because they were trying to get something old to fit with something new. Buy the right equipment and it wouldn't be a problem.

They are a team of experts who deal directly with manufacturers and creators of the software.

The truth of the matter was one format had major issues and the other had none. You can't argue with the fact that Mac is an elegant and reliable format. Many PCs are too but with PCs there are thousands of variables as to that being reality when it comes to using PCs simply because the hardware and software is so vast in numbers and fragmented.

I just can't see any advantage from a professional point of view for someone involved in high end media, to go PC except it will be a little cheaper in terms of initial purchase cost (unless there was a specific piece of software needed that was PC only, but even then, all Macs these days can run windows as well as a PC apparently, even though I've never been compelled to try).

Never had a prob with Macs. That's just my experience bro!

Actually, you just gave the reason. The ability to have a vast amount of choices to do what you want to do, the way you want to do it, instead of being forced to do it the way some company has convinced you you're supposed to do it, thereby not giving you any other way to do it.

Run-on sentences ftw!