......all i know is, we were having a discussion about all the corporations who have a gazillion dollars between how ever many of them and the dispartity of wealth among those who wake up before the chickens EVERY day to find work, work, or just try and live.................

fuck a union.

yeah, I said it.

Well, that's pretty clear then. Most here are against unions and consider Jay-Z as the victim or just doing what all the big corporations do and therefore not liable.

dJJ said:

Well, that's pretty clear then. Most here are against unions and consider Jay-Z as the victim or just doing what all the big corporations do and therefore not liable.

If you're asking me if I feel bad about lazy asses who get paid $30+ an hour for 5 hour work days and hold most major companies hostage to make sure that they and theirs (most of which involve organized crime, by the way) get paid?

Not even a little.

Unions may have started out as a good idea many many years ago, but now with OSHA laws being what they are, like everything else it's a corrupted joke of what it once was.

So, yeah put me down as anti-union.

Vendetta1 said:

Why single out Jay-Z? I could name 15 companies off the top of my head who shit on the small guy to make a buck.

exactly !

it bothers me more that he sounds so bored on all of his records

Hell, he's a shit hopper isn't he? They make the cheapest music possible with no instruments or musicians for the biggest profit possible so why should any other project they're involved in be any different.

purplemonster04 said:

And now he's implanted his demon foetus, which will ultimately destroy the world, in Beyonce.

Hey, he's not fully to blame. She willingly cocked her legs up in the air for it.

NDRU said:

it bothers me more that he sounds so bored on all of his records

If I were him, I'd be bored with my own records too.

dJJ said:

Jay-Z is loaded. He is extremely rich.

That's okay because he likes to entrepeneur and apparantly he's good at it.

However, it's clear that he makes that much profit by keeping his costs low and (ab)use cheap labor under unsafe conditions.

He exploits the builders who are constructing his 40/40 club that needs to make Jay-Z more money.

I think it's sad that he makes money by means of cheap and exploiting labor and not adhering to union standards.

What are you'r thoughts about it?

He is probably not the only singer who does that and that includes actors ....

Vendetta1 said:

Why single out Jay-Z? I could name 15 companies off the top of my head who shit on the small guy to make a buck.

Exactly.

A lot of companies mistreat workers so why is a billionaire supposed rap titan significant to this? If you get attached to a corporation, this happens. And no one is really doing anything about it to fix it. It's bigger than Jay-Z.

This kind of reminds me of the Kathy Lee Gifford scandal.

vainandy said:

NDRU said:

it bothers me more that he sounds so bored on all of his records

If I were him, I'd be bored with my own records too.

They arn't my records and I'm BORED with them.

Graycap23 said:

vainandy said:

If I were him, I'd be bored with my own records too.

They arn't my records and I'm BORED with them.

well if the artist sounds bored, it is only logical that we should also be bored

NDRU said:

Graycap23 said:

They arn't my records and I'm BORED with them.

well if the artist sounds bored, it is only logical that we should also be bored

Hihi, there is union protest against his boredom.

ButterscotchPimp said:

fuck a union.

yeah, I said it.

I really think there is a huge difference between the American unions and Dutch. Overhere, I think most unions are considered as not tough enough. However, all your reactions suggest that even labor people aren't pro-unions.

Jay-Z is now The Establishment's delegate to the Anti-Establishment. He settles beefs by getting people fired, not on a mixtape or mic.

namepeace said:

Jay-Z is now The Establishment's delegate to the Anti-Establishment. He settles beefs by getting people fired, not on a mixtape or mic.

jeez, that is a real thinker!!

Vendetta1 said:

Why single out Jay-Z? I could name 15 companies off the top of my head who shit on the small guy to make a buck.

This is how I feel. We are like magnets to celebrities and watch them 24/7. Remember all that attention over L Lohan shoplifting or whatever? Meanwhile there are cases of government employees stealing millions, MILLIONS of tax payers money and it gets barely any press at all in the state that it happened. I doubt if it gets press outside the state at all.

It scares me how focused we are on celebrities and reality T.V. and bull shit people that we will never meet and simply are in a fog as to what is going on with the real people who do affect our lives.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Anyanka

Jay Z is a fat smarmy cunt

AprilSkies said:

Jay Z is a fat, successful, rich, smarmy cunt with a beautiful wife and millions of fans.

Fixed that for you.

Cerebus said:

AprilSkies said:

Jay Z is a fat, successful, rich, smarmy cunt with a beautiful wife and millions of fans.

Fixed that for you.