Dewrede said:

Genesia said:

Y'know...your posts on this thread about cigarettes not being poison are hilarious - considering your belief that meat is.

I guess it really is true that one man's meat is another man's poison, huh?

i never said that

i said eating meat is murder

and i don't see how that is relevant to this topic in any way

Hypocrisy is always relevant.

^

Care to elaborate on why i'm hypocrite ?

Calling me a douche for no reason whatsoever , like you did before won't cut it

and neither will trying to gang up on me with your favourite clown like you usually try

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The people above me used to smoke randomly and thats even worse than them smoking constantly because your nose doesnt have an opportunity to get used to it. They would smoke at night time like once a week as I was about to go to sleep and I would wake up to this awful stench and couldn't go back to sleep. I finallly learned to just light incense whenever they did it...

I used to smoke so I have a tiny bit of sympathy, but why smoke cigarettes with what they cost these days??? Smoke weed or something... I'd much rather be woken up by weed than by cigarettes...

lezama said:

The people above me used to smoke randomly and thats even worse than them smoking constantly because your nose doesnt have an opportunity to get used to it. They would smoke at night time like once a week as I was about to go to sleep and I would wake up to this awful stench and couldn't go back to sleep. I finallly learned to just light incense whenever they did it...

I used to smoke so I have a tiny bit of sympathy, but why smoke cigarettes with what they cost these days??? Smoke weed or something... I'd much rather be woken up by weed than by cigarettes...

I like to burn incense on Friday and Saturday nights when I'm drinking because when I drink, I tend to smoke a lot more than I usually do and I love the smell of a good smelling burning incense stick to cover it up. We had a local owned record store that had some really good smelling incense but they finally closed last May and I can't find any good smelling incense anymore. I bought some from the grocery store and it just smelled like a stick burning with hardly any fragrance at all. It just contributed to the smoke smell rather than covering it up.

vainandy said:

NDRU said:

I question whether people really do die of secondhand smoke or not.

I could see it happening in extreme cases such as a nonsmoker living in the same house with several smokers for years and years with all them them smoking at once on a daily basis. But you better believe if even one person dies from it, a lot of nonsmokers are going to act as if five seconds of exposure to smoke will kill them.

But there's nothing to LOL about in that, Andy. People have died from second-hand smoke - lots of them. That much is a known fact.

What isn't a known fact is how much second-hand smoke it takes to kill someone. Think of it from the non-smoker's point of view - how do I know that the next breath of your smoke isn't the one that's going to trigger cancer in me?

Would you honestly want to live that way if you were a non-smoker? If you didn't smoke, but lived around someone who did? Knowing that the next breath of their smoke might kill you?

Why should ANYONE have to live that way?

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proof ?

just saying it doesn't make it a fact

http://fumento.com/disease/smoking.html

http://reason.com/archive...ck-of-lies

http://www.forces.org/evi...second.htm

and there's tons of other sites that dispute that nonsense

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NDRU said:

It seems as smoking is banned in more and more places, people are becoming more and more aware that they don't like it around them.

It's tricky because people should have the right to smoke (it's a legal drug after all), and yet, it can intrude on other's lives & health. Sort of like noise, I guess.

I was reading about some place that had laws about smoking in your own apartment if that smoke was going into someone else's apartment. Not sure what the status is on that law or where it was, but it's pretty interesting.

They have a law somewhere in California where u can't smoke inside apartments & condos. Other countries have laws like that too (in some places in Australia, and Canada)

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vainandy said:

lezama said:

The people above me used to smoke randomly and thats even worse than them smoking constantly because your nose doesnt have an opportunity to get used to it. They would smoke at night time like once a week as I was about to go to sleep and I would wake up to this awful stench and couldn't go back to sleep. I finallly learned to just light incense whenever they did it...

I used to smoke so I have a tiny bit of sympathy, but why smoke cigarettes with what they cost these days??? Smoke weed or something... I'd much rather be woken up by weed than by cigarettes...

I like to burn incense on Friday and Saturday nights when I'm drinking because when I drink, I tend to smoke a lot more than I usually do and I love the smell of a good smelling burning incense stick to cover it up. We had a local owned record store that had some really good smelling incense but they finally closed last May and I can't find any good smelling incense anymore. I bought some from the grocery store and it just smelled like a stick burning with hardly any fragrance at all. It just contributed to the smoke smell rather than covering it up.

Cigarette smoke and incense mixed with incense doesn't bother me at all... in fact, the combo of cigarettes, weed or hash and incense would take me back to my college days.. (ahh.. this thread is making me nostalgic). The last time I was near a place that sold incense I just bought a huge box of em (cuz in most places they're cheap), its lasted me nearly a year. The thing is sometimes the smell unlit can be deceiving from how it smells lit. So once I find a brand I like I tend to stick with it. Living in an apartment they just come in handy.

Dewrede said:

^

proof ?

just saying it doesn't make it a fact

http://fumento.com/disease/smoking.html

http://reason.com/archive...ck-of-lies

http://www.forces.org/evi...second.htm

and there's tons of other sites that dispute that nonsense

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http://www.cdc.gov/tobacc.../index.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/tobacc.../index.htm

In children aged 18 months or younger, secondhand smoke exposure is responsible for—

• an estimated 150,000–300,000 new cases of bronchitis and pneumonia annually, and
• approximately 7,500–15,000 hospitalizations annually in the United States.⁴

In adults who have never smoked, secondhand smoke can cause heart disease and/or lung cancer.³

Heart Disease

• For nonsmokers, breathing secondhand smoke has immediate harmful effects on the cardiovascular system that can increase the risk for heart attack. People who already have heart disease are at especially high risk.^3,5
• Secondhand smoke exposure causes an estimated 46,000 heart disease deaths annually among adult nonsmokers in the United States.⁶

Lung Cancer

• Nonsmokers who are exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase their lung cancer risk by 20–30%.³
• Secondhand smoke exposure causes an estimated 3,400 lung cancer deaths annually among adult nonsmokers in the United States.⁶

the only thing i would suggest is get a draught excluder, insulate our door, then open your windows & buy some plug-ins

then buy some stinkbombs & put them through their letterbox