DoffieParker said:

anyone tried this thing yet?. i'm mesmorized 4 some reason but can't think why

If that stupid thing could get me as ripped as those dudes in the infomercial, I would consider it.

But come on...how can you possibly take that sex-toy-looking-like contraption seriously???

ZombieKitten said:

NDRU said:

I have been working out regularly for the past couple months again. Not pushing myself too hard, but being very regular about it.

I am definitely noticing the difference in my body, and I start to think I am looking good but then....I took a picture of myself with my shirt off and saw the sad truth

Somehow mirrors lie, but cameras do not.

you need your photo taken by a professional

....will u take MINE as well...?

PurpleJedi said:

Gonna start over today, with sufficient nourishment this time!

At least 5-6 times a day, PJ. You'll see a big improvement in your workouts once your start fueling up right. My pre-workout meal is a big can of tuna(always in oil), non-fat yogurt, some fruit and a shake. It gives me that rush I need.

Half the battle to staying in shape is in the kitchen. It doesn't involve dieting, just eating better and doing things in moderation(Thursdays is my day to have pizza, a burger or a hot dog). There's a whole science behind working out/nutrition that I didn't fully understand until I hit my 30s.

[Edited 10/1/11 11:28am]

uPtoWnNY said:

PurpleJedi said:

At least 5-6 times a day, PJ. You'll see a big improvement in your workouts once your start fueling up right. My pre-workout meal is a big can of tuna(always in oil), non-fat yogurt, some fruit and a shake. It gives me that rush I need.

Half the battle to staying in shape is in the kitchen. It doesn't involve dieting, just eating better and doing things in moderation(Thursdays is my day to have pizza, a burger or a hot dog). There's a whole science behind working out/nutrition that I didn't fully understand until I hit my 30s.

Man...I know that 5-6 meals a day is the way to go, but I haven't been able to incorporate it into my daily routine.

I did get a bottle of Nitrotech protein so I've been having a glass before heading out in the morning (only 1 scoop = 25g of protein) and one at the end of the day...so that sort of / kind of counts as a "meal" each, right?

I learned all about moderation and eating "better" while not exactly dieting...cut out soda and greasy fried foods...and it shows. I also know that to build muscle you need to eat more...my problem is that my gut grows WAAAAAY faster than my arms! LOL

Thanks though! I have some cans of tuna that I keep forgetting are there...although I never thought that getting it packed in oil was "healthy".

PurpleJedi said:

Thanks though! I have some cans of tuna that I keep forgetting are there...although I never thought that getting it packed in oil was "healthy".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_oil

As with everything, take it in moderation.

uPtoWnNY said:

PurpleJedi said:

Thanks though! I have some cans of tuna that I keep forgetting are there...although I never thought that getting it packed in oil was "healthy".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_oil

As with everything, take it in moderation.

Is your workout HORRIBLE?

uPtoWnNY said:

PurpleJedi said:

Thanks though! I have some cans of tuna that I keep forgetting are there...although I never thought that getting it packed in oil was "healthy".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_oil

As with everything, take it in moderation.

This is interesting, I've eaten it packed in water all my life and never thought twice about it. After doing a little bit of research I see that albacore packed in olive oil has 8.1 g of Omega 3 per cup where albacore packed in water has 1.34 grams.

uPtoWnNY said:

I highly recommend Dr. Layne Norton's routine for you weight-training maniacs. Been at it for six and half weeks, and it's done wonders for me. I worked it into a four-day schedule. There's also a link at this site for female fitness.

http://www.simplyshredded...-2011.html

Yeah finally clicked on the link.

That's some heavy shyte right there. Kudos to you if you can do that routine.

PurpleJedi said:

uPtoWnNY said:

I highly recommend Dr. Layne Norton's routine for you weight-training maniacs. Been at it for six and half weeks, and it's done wonders for me. I worked it into a four-day schedule. There's also a link at this site for female fitness.

http://www.simplyshredded...-2011.html

Yeah finally clicked on the link.

That's some heavy shyte right there. Kudos to you if you can do that routine.

Been doing it for three months now. It's kicking my ass, but everyone at the gym is complimenting me on how lean I'm getting. Finally did 6 chin-ups with a 45 lb. weight strapped to my belt, and I got my squats back up to 405 lbs. Not bad for an old man.

I made a few changes to Dr. Norton's routine. Here's what I do;

Upper body power Monday:

Bent over rows, or Pendlay rows or T-Bar rows - 3-6 sets, 3-5 reps

Weighted wide-grip chin-ups - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Weighted Rack chins - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Flat Dumbell or Flat Barbell bench press - 3 sets, 3-5 reps

Weighted Dips - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Seated shoulder dumbell(or barbell) press - 3 sets, 6-10 reps

Cambered bar bicep curls - 3 sets, 6-10 reps

Skull crushers - 3 sets, 6-10 reps

Lower Body Power Tuesday;

Hack Squats - 3-5 sets, 6-10 reps

Squats - 3-5 sets, 5 reps

Leg Extensions - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Deadlifts - 3 sets, 5-8 reps

Lying leg curls - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Standing calf raises - 3 sets, 6-10 reps

Seated Calf raises - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Chest & Arms Light - Thursday

Flat Barbell bench press - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Incline Barbell bench press - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Hammer strength chest press - 3 sets, 12-15 reps

Incline cable fly, or Incline dumbell fly - 2 sets, 15-20 reps

Preacher curls - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Overhead bar tricep extensions - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Concentration curls - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Cable tricep pulldowns - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Incline dumbell curls - 2 sets, 15-20 reps

Tricep kickbacks - 2 sets, 15-20 reps

Legs, Back & Shoulders Light - Friday

Squats - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Hack Squats or Leg Press - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Leg Extensions - 3 sets, 12-15 reps

Romanian deadlifts - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Lying leg curls - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Seated leg curls - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Donkey calf raises - 4 sets, 10-15 reps

Seated calf raises - 3 sets, 15-20 reps

(5-minute rest period)

Bent over rows, Pendlay rows or T-Bar rows - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Rack Chins - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Seated cable rows - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Dumbell rows or Dumbell shrugs - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Close grip pulldowns - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Seated dumbell or seated barbell shoulder press - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Upright rows - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Side Lat raises - 3 sets, 12-20 reps

uPtoWnNY said:

PurpleJedi said:

Yeah finally clicked on the link.

That's some heavy shyte right there. Kudos to you if you can do that routine.

Been doing it for three months now. It's kicking my ass, but everyone at the gym is complimenting me on how lean I'm getting. Finally did 6 chin-ups with a 45 lb. weight strapped to my belt, and I got my squats back up to 405 lbs. Not bad for an old man.

I made a few changes to Dr. Norton's routine. Here's what I do;

Upper body power Monday:

Bent over rows, or Pendlay rows or T-Bar rows - 3-6 sets, 3-5 reps

Weighted wide-grip chin-ups - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Weighted Rack chins - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Flat Dumbell or Flat Barbell bench press - 3 sets, 3-5 reps

Weighted Dips - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Seated shoulder dumbell(or barbell) press - 3 sets, 6-10 reps

Cambered bar bicep curls - 3 sets, 6-10 reps

Skull crushers - 3 sets, 6-10 reps

Lower Body Power Tuesday;

Hack Squats - 3-5 sets, 6-10 reps

Squats - 3-5 sets, 5 reps

Leg Extensions - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Deadlifts - 3 sets, 5-8 reps

Lying leg curls - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Standing calf raises - 3 sets, 6-10 reps

Seated Calf raises - 2 sets, 6-10 reps

Chest & Arms Light - Thursday

Flat Barbell bench press - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Incline Barbell bench press - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Hammer strength chest press - 3 sets, 12-15 reps

Incline cable fly, or Incline dumbell fly - 2 sets, 15-20 reps

Preacher curls - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Overhead bar tricep extensions - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Concentration curls - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Cable tricep pulldowns - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Incline dumbell curls - 2 sets, 15-20 reps

Tricep kickbacks - 2 sets, 15-20 reps

Legs, Back & Shoulders Light - Friday

Squats - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Hack Squats or Leg Press - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Leg Extensions - 3 sets, 12-15 reps

Romanian deadlifts - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Lying leg curls - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Seated leg curls - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Donkey calf raises - 4 sets, 10-15 reps

Seated calf raises - 3 sets, 15-20 reps

(5-minute rest period)

Bent over rows, Pendlay rows or T-Bar rows - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Rack Chins - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Seated cable rows - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Dumbell rows or Dumbell shrugs - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Close grip pulldowns - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Seated dumbell or seated barbell shoulder press - 3 sets, 8-12 reps

Upright rows - 2 sets, 12-15 reps

Side Lat raises - 3 sets, 12-20 reps

Dude, you must LIVE at the gym!!!

Seriously though...it's inspiring to see someone dedicated and committed to it...I'll get there one day...

PurpleJedi said:

Dude, you must LIVE at the gym!!!

Pretty much, now that I'm not working fulltime yet.

uPtoWnNY said:

PurpleJedi said:

Dude, you must LIVE at the gym!!!

Pretty much, now that I'm not working fulltime yet.

Looking at the site you provided and reading through some of these comments really are motivating me to hit the gym more and with more dedication. I've been checking out the Female Fitness articles and been printing off some things I need to read like 10 times to drill it in my brain.

I am not stalking you misfee I promise!

I still am loosing weight and it is 7:07 am and I need to get clothes on and get out of here ASAP. I am not working so I can take over an hour today to walk. Seems that what wore me out a month ago isn't doing it any more and I guess that is a good thing right.

I still do not have money so I can not buy ANYTHING to enhance my workout, just put in more walking time and maybe go google some exersizes I can do on the living room floor.

missfee said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Pretty much, now that I'm not working fulltime yet.

Looking at the site you provided and reading through some of these comments really are motivating me to hit the gym more and with more dedication. I've been checking out the Female Fitness articles and been printing off some things I need to read like 10 times to drill it in my brain.

Yeah, I started printing that stuff out too!

Hey uPtoWnNY - how do you know when you're "ready" to start a heavy-duty routine like yours???

PurpleJedi said:

Hey uPtoWnNY - how do you know when you're "ready" to start a heavy-duty routine like yours???

For me, it wasn't a problem since I've been lifting heavy for @ 25 years. I was looking to change my workouts, and a dude at another website gave me Dr. Norton's routine.

You know your body better than me. If you think you can handle it, go for it. I guarantee if you do this shit right and hit it hard(together with eating right), you'll see body changes in 5-7 weeks. Just make sure you have a spotter on power days. For me, a power flat barbell bench press is 3-5 reps at 275 lbs. For flat dumbell bench press I use 105 lb. dumbells.

Also, you're supposed to do Norton's routine over 5 days. I don't workout weekends, so I do legs with back & shoulders(light) on Friday. Light means @65-70% of your max.

[Edited 10/13/11 7:25am]

Deadflow3r said:

I am not stalking you misfee I promise!

I still am loosing weight and it is 7:07 am and I need to get clothes on and get out of here ASAP. I am not working so I can take over an hour today to walk. Seems that what wore me out a month ago isn't doing it any more and I guess that is a good thing right.

I still do not have money so I can not buy ANYTHING to enhance my workout, just put in more walking time and maybe go google some exersizes I can do on the living room floor.

Do you have any freeweights at home? If so you can go to shape.com and they should have some home exercises with examples on their site. I have some of their magazines and the exercises they provide are reasonable to do at home.

missfee said:

Deadflow3r said:

I am not stalking you misfee I promise!

I still am loosing weight and it is 7:07 am and I need to get clothes on and get out of here ASAP. I am not working so I can take over an hour today to walk. Seems that what wore me out a month ago isn't doing it any more and I guess that is a good thing right.

I still do not have money so I can not buy ANYTHING to enhance my workout, just put in more walking time and maybe go google some exersizes I can do on the living room floor.

Do you have any freeweights at home? If so you can go to shape.com and they should have some home exercises with examples on their site. I have some of their magazines and the exercises they provide are reasonable to do at home.

No, but surely the regular Walmart or kmart should have some.

I have a problem. My roomate is very sweet. Yesterday he bought pizza for himself and a seperate veggie pizza for me that had toppings on it that he hated. It was a nice suprise so I ate it. However I am very serious about this fitness thing and am trying to eliminate white bread and only eat high fiber grains. The Dominos pizza was just a white pizza with lots of cheese.

I want to always be grateful but I can not eat whatever he cooks or buys and still loose weight. It is all free to me, so it is sweet. But I have a goal here people....

uPtoWnNY said:

PurpleJedi said:

Hey uPtoWnNY - how do you know when you're "ready" to start a heavy-duty routine like yours???

For me, it wasn't a problem since I've been lifting heavy for @ 25 years. I was looking to change my workouts, and a dude at another website gave me Dr. Norton's routine.

You know your body better than me. If you think you can handle it, go for it. I guarantee if you do this shit right and hit it hard(together with eating right), you'll see body changes in 5-7 weeks. Just make sure you have a spotter on power days. For me, a power flat barbell bench press is 3-5 reps at 275 lbs. For flat dumbell bench press I use 105 lb. dumbells.

Also, you're supposed to do Norton's routine over 5 days. I don't workout weekends, so I do legs with back & shoulders(light) on Friday. Light means @65-70% of your max.

[Edited 10/13/11 7:25am]

PurpleJedi said:

There's no other way to do it. If you want to put on size, you have to lift hard and eat, eat, eat!

I'm amazed at myself this week. I've been cooking all of my foods, been bringing lunch to work (along with snacks in between) and today will be day 3 of going to the gym this week. I also plan on going Saturday morning as well. And I'm surprisingly excited about the gym. Maybe it's the aerobics barbell class I've started doing. It's intense but I always walk away sweaty and feeling toned. I see this butts and guts class I want to try next Monday after work. Wonder if I'll start to see some changes by next month if I continue on this regimen?

uPtoWnNY said:

PurpleJedi said:

There's no other way to do it. If you want to put on size, you have to lift hard and eat, eat, eat!

The eating bit is still difficult for me to get right. I rely WAY too much on fast food.

Lifting hard is getting better now that my buddy dumped his girl and meets me at the gym more frequently.

missfee said:

I'm amazed at myself this week. I've been cooking all of my foods, been bringing lunch to work (along with snacks in between) and today will be day 3 of going to the gym this week. I also plan on going Saturday morning as well. And I'm surprisingly excited about the gym. Maybe it's the aerobics barbell class I've started doing. It's intense but I always walk away sweaty and feeling toned. I see this butts and guts class I want to try next Monday after work. Wonder if I'll start to see some changes by next month if I continue on this regimen?

PurpleJedi said:

The eating bit is still difficult for me to get right. I rely WAY too much on fast food.

If you want to be a lean, mean 225 lb. monster, that has to change. Try limiting your fast food intake to one day a week, like I do. Thursday is usually my day to have a pizza, cheeseburger or a few hot dogs.

I went to Walmart and walked both ways so that is about 5 miles all together. Hurray!!! I have layed off the cheese and dairy since that is my weakness and I am down to about 222lbs. It is suppose to be anywhere from 67 to 74 degrees so there is no excuse to stay home that isn't straight up pathetic.

uPtoWnNY said:

PurpleJedi said:

The eating bit is still difficult for me to get right. I rely WAY too much on fast food.

If you want to be a lean, mean 225 lb. monster, that has to change. Try limiting your fast food intake to one day a week, like I do. Thursday is usually my day to have a pizza, cheeseburger or a few hot dogs.

Once a WEEK?

Yeah...part of my long term goal...the whole chicken & tuna bit...

PurpleJedi said:

uPtoWnNY said:

If you want to be a lean, mean 225 lb. monster, that has to change. Try limiting your fast food intake to one day a week, like I do. Thursday is usually my day to have a pizza, cheeseburger or a few hot dogs.

Once a WEEK?

Yeah...part of my long term goal...the whole chicken & tuna bit...

What about not eating the hamburger roll or french fries at first? I have tried to just say no to white bread, pasta, rice and potatoes. It may sound strange but I cook up whole grain pasta and have high fiber bread around and swap it out with the roll that is given.

With my soups, for instance, I pick out the pasta given and replace it with whole grain pasta. It is a littel weird but it a slight shift in my diet that quickly paid off.

PurpleJedi said:

uPtoWnNY said:

There's no other way to do it. If you want to put on size, you have to lift hard and eat, eat, eat!

The eating bit is still difficult for me to get right. I rely WAY too much on fast food.

Cook your meals at home! I make breakfast and lunch every day for myself come home in the evening and make dinner

My problem is I eat too much! good if you want to gain some muscle but that is not what I am trying to do, I have fat to take off, too much food is not good for me

veronikka said:

PurpleJedi said:

The eating bit is still difficult for me to get right. I rely WAY too much on fast food.

Cook your meals at home! I make breakfast and lunch every day for myself come home in the evening and make dinner

My problem is I eat too much! good if you want to gain some muscle but that is not what I am trying to do, I have fat to take off, too much food is not good for me

Yeah...I'm still adjusting to my new environment (one month later) but I intend on getting into that groove...I know that I can buy a week's worth of chicken and tuna and stuff and cook it and proportion it and everything.

Probably someplace online that'll help with that.

PurpleJedi said:

veronikka said:

Cook your meals at home! I make breakfast and lunch every day for myself come home in the evening and make dinner

My problem is I eat too much! good if you want to gain some muscle but that is not what I am trying to do, I have fat to take off, too much food is not good for me

Yeah...I'm still adjusting to my new environment (one month later) but I intend on getting into that groove...I know that I can buy a week's worth of chicken and tuna and stuff and cook it and proportion it and everything.

Probably someplace online that'll help with that.

You can still have junk food, just keep it to a minimum. Shit, I eat KFC @ twice a month.

Eating more of the good stuff will help you to gain strength. Chicken and tuna is perfect.