tinaz said:

Fauxie said:

I recently read this online article. Quite interesting.

'Ladies, cardio sucks for weight loss'

http://graemethomasonline...ight-loss/

Im gonna disagree here!! But I did read the article, and totally agree a person needs to do at least 1 hour (60 mins) a day to keep really fit...And it needs to be heart pounding, heavy breathing kinda cardio! I started running everyday 4+ years ago, And have yet to gain back any of the weight I have lost... I dont even eat that clean

When i do weights added with the cardio I get pretty tight...But im not faithful with weights at the moment, I need to but I HATE the gym! Id rather be outside!!!

[Edited 9/8/11 19:32pm]

Like they said, there are exceptions of course. It makes a lot of sense, I think.

We'll swap bodies. I'll do weights for you and you do cardio for me. Deal?

Deadflow3r said:

veronikka said:

What about your diet? diet is very important when trying to lose weight. I used to think as long as exercised I could keep eating whatever, it never came off. It's been over a year that I have been getting my eating in order and exercising and the pounds finally came off! Now I'm at a plateau and am trying to figure out if lowering my carb intake might help?

I have read so much on dieting. I now refuse to eat any sugar things at all. I only eat very high fiber pasta and bread too. I have eased off of cheese. I don't count calories yet. What I am trying to do is reduce what I call my "trigger foods" to as close to zero as I can. Candy, ice-cream and cookies are just not safe around me. Especially ice-cream. I keep a salad and fruit in the frig so if I want instant food I can get to it as fast as I use to get to candy.

Most people who loose 100lbs or more, that I have read about, kept a log of what they ate. Fat people like alcoholics tend to lie to themselves about what they actually consume in a day. I have not started that yet, but I should.

Do you still eat white rice, pasta and grains?

The way I eat is a bit complicated but for a post workout snack I have turkey on white bread, yes white bread! but my other meals consist of only good carbs, I find that rice and pasta have just way too many calories and I'm a big eater, so I would rather have two cups of mixed veggies instead of a tiny bit of pasta or rice. High carbs are only allowed on my workout days, days I do not workout, I dont need the carbs and up the good fats to keep my calorie intake the same every day. Getting rid of all those bad foods is a wonderful start but you really should find out how many calories your body needs and start keeping a food diary. This is how I started and it really helped to start reading labels and keeping within my allowed calories. I still have a little dessert here and there, as long as I dont go over my calories but that may be what is hurting me right now

tinaz said:

Fauxie said:

I recently read this online article. Quite interesting.

'Ladies, cardio sucks for weight loss'

http://graemethomasonline...ight-loss/

Im gonna disagree here!! But I did read the article, and totally agree a person needs to do at least 1 hour (60 mins) a day to keep really fit...And it needs to be heart pounding, heavy breathing kinda cardio! I started running everyday 4+ years ago, And have yet to gain back any of the weight I have lost... I dont even eat that clean

When i do weights added with the cardio I get pretty tight...But im not faithful with weights at the moment, I need to but I HATE the gym! Id rather be outside!!!

[Edited 9/8/11 19:32pm]

When do you run Tinaz? I started to run after work but I dont know what Im going to do once it starts to get dark earlier and I hate running on treadmills

veronikka said:

tinaz said:

Im gonna disagree here!! But I did read the article, and totally agree a person needs to do at least 1 hour (60 mins) a day to keep really fit...And it needs to be heart pounding, heavy breathing kinda cardio! I started running everyday 4+ years ago, And have yet to gain back any of the weight I have lost... I dont even eat that clean

When i do weights added with the cardio I get pretty tight...But im not faithful with weights at the moment, I need to but I HATE the gym! Id rather be outside!!!

[Edited 9/8/11 19:32pm]

When do you run Tinaz? I started to run after work but I dont know what Im going to do once it starts to get dark earlier and I hate running on treadmills

A 25 minute kettlebell workout does more for you than 40 minutes on the treadmill.

Fauxie said:

tinaz said:

Im gonna disagree here!! But I did read the article, and totally agree a person needs to do at least 1 hour (60 mins) a day to keep really fit...And it needs to be heart pounding, heavy breathing kinda cardio! I started running everyday 4+ years ago, And have yet to gain back any of the weight I have lost... I dont even eat that clean

When i do weights added with the cardio I get pretty tight...But im not faithful with weights at the moment, I need to but I HATE the gym! Id rather be outside!!!

[Edited 9/8/11 19:32pm]

Like they said, there are exceptions of course. It makes a lot of sense, I think.

We'll swap bodies. I'll do weights for you and you do cardio for me. Deal?

Perfect!

veronikka said:

tinaz said:

Im gonna disagree here!! But I did read the article, and totally agree a person needs to do at least 1 hour (60 mins) a day to keep really fit...And it needs to be heart pounding, heavy breathing kinda cardio! I started running everyday 4+ years ago, And have yet to gain back any of the weight I have lost... I dont even eat that clean

When i do weights added with the cardio I get pretty tight...But im not faithful with weights at the moment, I need to but I HATE the gym! Id rather be outside!!!

[Edited 9/8/11 19:32pm]

When do you run Tinaz? I started to run after work but I dont know what Im going to do once it starts to get dark earlier and I hate running on treadmills

I do it first thing in the morning... When I was working I tried doing it after work, but i was usually tired and would talk myself into not doing it

I too hate treadmills!! It sucks in the winter here too, gets so cold and icy.. So I will be back on the treadmill during the snowy days...

Have you looked into getting any lights or reflective gear? Night running is alot of fun, but you must be very careful because cars cant see you very well, thats why a light is great! Stay on well lit paths so you dont fall on anything... I used to run at the high school track. but that gets boring running around on circles for miles

Here is a link to Amazon.com for light clips and stuff...

http://www.amazon.com/s/?...95wyltyl_b

Holy shit......some of these workouts!!!!

Anyways, I'm working out, not as heavy as I used to be yet, but I can proudly say I am no longer Fauxie's Belly Twin.

veronikka said:

Deadflow3r said:

I have read so much on dieting. I now refuse to eat any sugar things at all. I only eat very high fiber pasta and bread too. I have eased off of cheese. I don't count calories yet. What I am trying to do is reduce what I call my "trigger foods" to as close to zero as I can. Candy, ice-cream and cookies are just not safe around me. Especially ice-cream. I keep a salad and fruit in the frig so if I want instant food I can get to it as fast as I use to get to candy.

Most people who loose 100lbs or more, that I have read about, kept a log of what they ate. Fat people like alcoholics tend to lie to themselves about what they actually consume in a day. I have not started that yet, but I should.

Do you still eat white rice, pasta and grains?

The way I eat is a bit complicated but for a post workout snack I have turkey on white bread, yes white bread! but my other meals consist of only good carbs, I find that rice and pasta have just way too many calories and I'm a big eater, so I would rather have two cups of mixed veggies instead of a tiny bit of pasta or rice. High carbs are only allowed on my workout days, days I do not workout, I dont need the carbs and up the good fats to keep my calorie intake the same every day. Getting rid of all those bad foods is a wonderful start but you really should find out how many calories your body needs and start keeping a food diary. This is how I started and it really helped to start reading labels and keeping within my allowed calories. I still have a little dessert here and there, as long as I dont go over my calories but that may be what is hurting me right now

You are right of course. The deal is that I am way way far away from my goal weight. From what I have read, at this point you don't want to make huge changes that are going to shock your body, let your body respond to slight changes that it barely recognizes. I am not hungry right now - maybe just slightly at times but never feeling famished.

Slowly but surely I will carve away portion sizes and such. I don't have a scale for portion sizes and again, I think that is a place where fat people lie to themselves and eat far more then they should.

So far I have lost maybe 22 pounds without having any feelings of withdrawal. It has been about 7lbs a month. I would like to step it up to 10lbs a month if I could. Another big factor is that I don't always take my multivitamin pack. I feel much better when I do. Like I said, I weigh around 229 lbs and there is going to have to be much tweaking of my diet to loose the remaining 100 or so pounds. (I am 5 foot 3 1/2 inches tall and in the past 124-132lbs seemed to be my best weight.)

TotalANXiousNESS said:

Holy shit......some of these workouts!!!!

Anyways, I'm working out, not as heavy as I used to be yet, but I can proudly say I am no longer Fauxie's Belly Twin.

I think even if you weren't working out, my last 2 weeks of beer, junk food and laziness has guaranteed that anyway.

I'll say it again folks, FORGET THE DAMN TREADMILLS! Get yourselves into a kettlebell training class. You'll burn more fat in half the time.

uPtoWnNY said:

I'll say it again folks, FORGET THE DAMN TREADMILLS! Get yourselves into a kettlebell training class. You'll burn more fat in half the time.

My gym doesn't have kettlebells.

...but I was told that sprinting frequently will wash away the fat like butter...any comment on that?

uPtoWnNY said:

I'll say it again folks, FORGET THE DAMN TREADMILLS! Get yourselves into a kettlebell training class. You'll burn more fat in half the time.

Most of my workouts were plyometrics before I stopped a month ago. I think they too can get folks into shape in a short amount of time.

I am still doing the walk thing and can feel myself getting faster. I also am naturally swinging my arms. I have not looked into serious speed walking but again, I don't want to overwhelm myself. Surely as time goes on I can add weights and speed walking techniques.

I found this helpful.

http://nutritiondata.self...ies-burned

Deadflow3r said:

veronikka said:

The way I eat is a bit complicated but for a post workout snack I have turkey on white bread, yes white bread! but my other meals consist of only good carbs, I find that rice and pasta have just way too many calories and I'm a big eater, so I would rather have two cups of mixed veggies instead of a tiny bit of pasta or rice. High carbs are only allowed on my workout days, days I do not workout, I dont need the carbs and up the good fats to keep my calorie intake the same every day. Getting rid of all those bad foods is a wonderful start but you really should find out how many calories your body needs and start keeping a food diary. This is how I started and it really helped to start reading labels and keeping within my allowed calories. I still have a little dessert here and there, as long as I dont go over my calories but that may be what is hurting me right now

You are right of course. The deal is that I am way way far away from my goal weight. From what I have read, at this point you don't want to make huge changes that are going to shock your body, let your body respond to slight changes that it barely recognizes. I am not hungry right now - maybe just slightly at times but never feeling famished.

Slowly but surely I will carve away portion sizes and such. I don't have a scale for portion sizes and again, I think that is a place where fat people lie to themselves and eat far more then they should.

So far I have lost maybe 22 pounds without having any feelings of withdrawal. It has been about 7lbs a month. I would like to step it up to 10lbs a month if I could. Another big factor is that I don't always take my multivitamin pack. I feel much better when I do. Like I said, I weigh around 229 lbs and there is going to have to be much tweaking of my diet to loose the remaining 100 or so pounds. (I am 5 foot 3 1/2 inches tall and in the past 124-132lbs seemed to be my best weight.)

One of my problems was thinking that because I was eating healthy I could eat as much of it as I wanted. This is not the case, I was eating way too many carbs and they were the healthy carbs and I was not working out, this equals getting fat! Just remember that to lose a pound you must subtract 3500 calories a week from what you eat. For someone like me who loves to eat, that is not easy. Also, keep making your workouts harder, it's amazing how the body gets used to you doing the same workout.

Good luck to you

One of my favorite ways to workout

i just checked my BMI

http://www.halls.md/body-...ex/bmi.htm

i am 22 kg/m2 and at 12 percentile according to my age and height

i guess i am aloud 1 choc chip cookie with my T

FuzzyWitch said:

i just checked my BMI

http://www.halls.md/body-...ex/bmi.htm

i am 22 kg/m2 and at 12 percentile according to my age and height

i guess i am aloud 1 choc chip cookie with my T

I'm at 22.1 kg/m2 and 23rd percentile. That's being 180 lbs, 192 cm and 30 years old.

Fauxie said:

FuzzyWitch said:

i just checked my BMI

http://www.halls.md/body-...ex/bmi.htm

i am 22 kg/m2 and at 12 percentile according to my age and height

i guess i am aloud 1 choc chip cookie with my T

I'm at 22.1 kg/m2 and 23rd percentile. That's being 180 lbs, 192 cm and 30 years old.

what r u trying to say???????????????????????????????????

FuzzyWitch said:

Fauxie said:

I'm at 22.1 kg/m2 and 23rd percentile. That's being 180 lbs, 192 cm and 30 years old.

what r u trying to say???????????????????????????????????

Nothing. I think it all just means we're both 'normal', but then we're both actually lighter than most folks our age and height. You, especially!

I put the weight up until it said I was overweight and that was once over 203 lbs. I'm aiming to get to 190 lbs max. and no more. I think that'd be my perfect weight.

Fauxie said:

FuzzyWitch said:

what r u trying to say???????????????????????????????????

Nothing. I think it all just means we're both 'normal', but then we're both actually lighter than most folks our age and height. You, especially!

I put the weight up until it said I was overweight and that was once over 203 lbs. I'm aiming to get to 190 lbs max. and no more. I think that'd be my perfect weight.

i am happy with my weight esp when my co-workers tell me i have a 20 year old body

i was fatter 2 years ago and had 2 work hard to get to this result... i still eat junk but only in moderation... it all about excersise - nothing 2 strenious, just 20 minutes a day

i think u r naturally slim and it would b hard 4 u 2 gain weight!!!

FuzzyWitch said:

Fauxie said:

Nothing. I think it all just means we're both 'normal', but then we're both actually lighter than most folks our age and height. You, especially!

I put the weight up until it said I was overweight and that was once over 203 lbs. I'm aiming to get to 190 lbs max. and no more. I think that'd be my perfect weight.

i am happy with my weight esp when my co-workers tell me i have a 20 year old body

i was fatter 2 years ago and had 2 work hard to get to this result... i still eat junk but only in moderation... it all about excersise - nothing 2 strenious, just 20 minutes a day

i think u r naturally slim and it would b hard 4 u 2 gain weight!!!

Nice! Good for you.

To the last part, yes it is, except for a little trunk fat I don't want. All I want is to lose that and add 10 good lbs of mainly muscle. At the moment I'm putting on maybe 2lbs a month.

veronikka said:

One of my favorite ways to workout

Do you have any tapes that you do at home? Any that you can recomend? I like the moves a lot!

Fitness: I recommend creme brulee

irreverence said:

Fitness: I recommend creme brulee

Yeah...uhm...that's just a bit creepy.

Deadflow3r said:

How fat can you be and still safely lift weights? I have the feeling I should try and get half the 100 lbs that I need to loose off first before I do much more than a walking routine. What is your thought on fat, fat people lifting weights safely.

Definitely do a combination of weights and cardio - by doing weights, you will improve your cardio output. By strengthening your legs during weight training, you'll be able to walk and/or jog farther and faster during cardio. By strengthing your core with weight training you'll be able to build lower back endurance making it easier to be on your feet for longer periods of time.

KLifting weights don't just garner aesthic benefits - they increase metabolism. If you do cardio for half an hour, you will burn calories and fat during those 30 minutes and for a bit after, but if you lift weights, your body burns calories while you lift the weights and the rest of the day as well - even while you sleep. Muscle requires fuel. DEFINITELY do a combination of weights and cardio. If you have access to a gym that offers kettlebells or a session with a RKC (Russian Kettlebell Certified) trainer, go for it!! Kettlebells are low impact and very time efficient as you get cardio and strength training all at the same time.

Good luck to you!!!

morningsong said:

I found this helpful.

http://nutritiondata.self...ies-burned

I like this because of info like this:

From this I can see that walking 20 minutes a day burns 92 calories for a 40yr old woman, 5', 180lbs.

Adjusting the excercise routine, which shows the greatest results:

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This shows the same woman walking 90 mins a day burning 412 cal.

It has a lot of info about various food their nutritional value as well as being an excercise calculator.

A man:

Deadflow3r said:

veronikka said:

One of my favorite ways to workout

Do you have any tapes that you do at home? Any that you can recomend? I like the moves a lot!

I would not recommend the zumba dvd's that are out right now, they are boring! Same moves over and over do not work for me. I would suggest either going a gym or if you have access to internet all the time, look for vids on youtube like the one I posted and make a playlist

Here are some of my current favorite songs, look for these on youtube, I'm sure you'll find some good ones

Feelin Good

Sabrosura

La Alianza

Chillin

Pegate

Un Mes

Oye

La Perla

Traigo Fuego

Shake it up

Quebra As Cadeira

Cumbia Arabe

Proud Mary

La Patilla

Guasamatakonyuka

I Love Salsa

Bailando Con Lola

New York House

Hope this helps you find some good ones!

jillybean said:

Deadflow3r said:

How fat can you be and still safely lift weights? I have the feeling I should try and get half the 100 lbs that I need to loose off first before I do much more than a walking routine. What is your thought on fat, fat people lifting weights safely.

Definitely do a combination of weights and cardio - by doing weights, you will improve your cardio output. By strengthening your legs during weight training, you'll be able to walk and/or jog farther and faster during cardio. By strengthing your core with weight training you'll be able to build lower back endurance making it easier to be on your feet for longer periods of time.

KLifting weights don't just garner aesthic benefits - they increase metabolism. If you do cardio for half an hour, you will burn calories and fat during those 30 minutes and for a bit after, but if you lift weights, your body burns calories while you lift the weights and the rest of the day as well - even while you sleep. Muscle requires fuel. DEFINITELY do a combination of weights and cardio. If you have access to a gym that offers kettlebells or a session with a RKC (Russian Kettlebell Certified) trainer, go for it!! Kettlebells are low impact and very time efficient as you get cardio and strength training all at the same time.

Good luck to you!!!

This is the deal. I fit the image of the fat American. I am a 50 year old woman on a set income who has less that $12,000 a year to spend on herself. The walking sandals were made by Danskin and were at Walmart for $15.00 so I bought them and started doing it. I once bought a gym membership and that was a nightmare. I use public transportation in a city where it stops running at 6pm. So no gym. That does not mean that I can only walk. I know that they have weights at Target, Big Lots, Walmart etc. It is just being realistic about it and getting the right DVD or book to go along with it so I am actually doing it correctly.

Any suggestions for doing it at home?

jillybean said:

Deadflow3r said:

How fat can you be and still safely lift weights? I have the feeling I should try and get half the 100 lbs that I need to loose off first before I do much more than a walking routine. What is your thought on fat, fat people lifting weights safely.

Definitely do a combination of weights and cardio - by doing weights, you will improve your cardio output. By strengthening your legs during weight training, you'll be able to walk and/or jog farther and faster during cardio. By strengthing your core with weight training you'll be able to build lower back endurance making it easier to be on your feet for longer periods of time.

KLifting weights don't just garner aesthic benefits - they increase metabolism. If you do cardio for half an hour, you will burn calories and fat during those 30 minutes and for a bit after, but if you lift weights, your body burns calories while you lift the weights and the rest of the day as well - even while you sleep. Muscle requires fuel. DEFINITELY do a combination of weights and cardio. If you have access to a gym that offers kettlebells or a session with a RKC (Russian Kettlebell Certified) trainer, go for it!! Kettlebells are low impact and very time efficient as you get cardio and strength training all at the same time.

Good luck to you!!!