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The Org Fitness Thread, Part II I highly recommend Dr. Layne Norton's routine for you weight-training maniacs. Been at it for six and half weeks, and it's done wonders for me. I worked it into a four-day schedule. There's also a link at this site for female fitness.
http://www.simplyshredded...-2011.html
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I might try that
I've been doing the Insanity workout right now. I did week 1, but had to postpone week 2 because of school. I'm doing week 2 THIS WEEK "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I'm on my 46th day of P90X. | |
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Right now I've been trying to build my core(?) via a simple routine 3 or 4 times a week. 5 sets of 10 reps of each of the following; - pec flys - lat pulldowns - tricep pulldowns - incline biceps curls - [varies; incline dumbell press, machine row, or other]
I was also trying to squeeze in at least once a week this workout; - pullups - dips - push ups do 10 reps each consecutively, rest, then repeat for 4 or 5 sets.
Occassionally I hookup with a friend who guides me through the "prison section" of the gym and we do "serious" bench presses. Well...serious on his end at least.
The basic routine I'm told is going to get me to a point where I have meat on my bones and can be strong enough to then try to do the more specialized stuff.
The pullups/dips are assisted because I can't yet pull/push my own bodyweight.
My benchpress is laughable (25lbs on either side of the bar) but that's 10 more lbs than when I first started maybe 6 bench workouts ago.
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how is this working for you, seeing the results you expected? I've seen many have success with this Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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Great thread. You should create more threads on fitness and GTA related stuff. I like what you have to say. I´ve just recently started going to the gym again after taking a three week long break due to being on vacation. During my vacation I still worked out but did completely different stuff like lifting my Samsonite suitcase (I did biceps curls with it ) and I went swimming and did pull ups and dips in the park because they had some nice fitness equipment there. It wasn´t like Muscle Beach or anything but I was still able to stay in shape and didn´t lose anything. Now I´ve been doing more split training since I got back and I will do some core stuff and latissimus and trapecius exercises tomorrow, and some pectoralis stuff.
I have learned to rest more in order to avoid overtraining. In the past I used to train a muscle up to four times a week but saw no gains, now I give the muscle at least 48, sometimes 72 or even more hours to recuperate and I see more gains in strength and muscle mass. I use pro 80 protein before my workouts and before going to bed and I use whey protein right after my workout but I am a bit skeptical about whey. It seems to be working but I don´t trust it really....mainly because of how it raises insulin and because I´ve heard some bad stories about using protein powders...stuff I hadn´t read or heard before...but I still want to use it til I finish what I bought. Maybe I should increase my protein intake by using more average and common stuff like tuna or eggs or cottage cheese but the quantities I´d need would make me feel sick.
Cardiotraining is something I´ve really neglected in the past six months because I ride my bicyle regularly and jogging is soooo boring but I should start doing it again.
I´d love to do a workout with Veronikka. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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you say you're working on your core, but you don't seem to have anything specifically for your abs My Legacy
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You know...I told my friend (who planned it out for me) and he said I need to focus on strength first, and that the abs naturally tighten.
Though I'm filling out the shirts a little better in the shoulders, I don't like the way I'm still filling them out around the midsection.
I'm definitely going to throw in some crunch-machine time to the routine! By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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Hhhmmm? Except for the rowing part, those exercises you mentioned above ( the bolded part) don´t have much to do with the core, do they? Core training involves more latissimus work, more deadlifts, rowing, roman chair exercises, sit ups/crunches etc.etc. , that´s where your core is.
Don´t worry too much about the weight you use. Make sure you use enough as you train more but don´t give the weight itself more importance than you´d give form. Form is very important, proper movements, proper lifts etc. A clean move without cheating is key. I sometimes use 25 to 30 lbs for biceps curls or 50 to 60 lbs when I use a barbell but there are days when I use just 40 lbs, and I start with 30 lbs or less to warm up. And then there are days where I finish with 70 lbs on the barbell. I stopped going to the max as far as benchpressing and benchpressing machines are concerned because my pecs grow enormously fast, so I reduced it to one day a week and still get massive results but I don´t like having a big, overly muscular chest so I use less weight and train less frequently when it comes to chest training. My shoulders need much more attention and having a huge chest and tiny shoulders is not what I´m going for.
Dips are good for you. I always include dips when I do my triceps workout, even when I don´t do a lot of dips I make sure I do at least one set or two of dips, and when I´m into some serious triceps workout I do more sets. Give your muscles enough time to rest and you´ll be amazed, especially as a beginner. And don´t forget to train the bigger muscle groups...very good for your hormone levels (testosterone), and working out your bigger muscles can also trigger growth in your arm muscles even when you train legs or your butt due to the release of male hormones.
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I'm not an expert or anything, but I just had to mention it as an observation. Seems like some cardio would be good as well.
But I know for guys, arms and shoulders get bigger, it can help take the eyes away from our gut! My Legacy
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See? I was wondering about the same thing, hence my comments above. Crunches are fine and good for your core but you need to get rid of that fat if your mid section is what you´re worried about. That fat has to melt for the abs to come out. You CAN get rid of it without cardio by simply raising your metabolism (i.e weight training) or by eating less carbs but a combi of proper diet plus cardio plus weight training works best. And THEN the crunches will tighten your abs but to make them visible you gotta get rid of the fat. There are folks with tight and strong abs but they still don´t look like it because the abs are hidden underneath the fat. Too much fat around the belly is not so great for men.
From www.lef.org :
Obesity: Obesity and associated hyperinsulinemia suppress the action of luteinizing hormone (LH) in the testis, which can significantly reduce circulating testosterone levels (Mah and Wittert 2010), even in men under the age of 40 (Goncharov et al 2009). In addition, increased belly fat mass has been correlated with increased aromatase levels (Kalyani and Dobs 2007). The vicious circle of low testosterone and obesity has been described as the hypogonadal/obesity cycle. In this cycle a low testosterone level results in increased abdominal fat, which in turn leads to increased aromatase activity. This enhances the conversion of testosterone to estrogens, which further reduces testosterone and increases the tendency toward abdominal fat (Cohen 1999, Tishova and Kalinchenko 2009). Sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG): Most testosterone circulating in the bloodstream is bound to either sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) (60%) or albumin (38%). Only a small fraction (2%) is unbound, or “free”. (Morales et al 2010). Testosterone binds more tightly to SHBG than to albumin (Henry et al 2002). Consequently, only albumin-bound testosterone and free testosterone constitute the bioavailable forms of testosterone, which are accessible to target tissues and carry out the actions of the essential hormone (Morales et al 2010). Thus the bioavailability of testosterone is influenced by the level of SHBG. Aging men experience both an increase in aromatase activity and an elevation in SHBG production. The net result is an increase in the ratio of estrogen to testosterone and a decrease in total and free testosterone levels (Lapauw et al 2008). As will be discussed below, it is crucial that this skewed ratio be balanced. Liver Function: The liver is responsible for removing excess estrogen and SHBG, and any decrease in liver function could exacerbate hormonal imbalances and compromise healthy testosterone levels. Thus it is important that aging men also strive for optimal liver function.
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From: http://www.timinvermont.com/fitness/boosttes.htm
(obviously taken from somewhere else...Men´s Health)
13 Ways to Naturally Boost Your Testosterone LevelsBy Ron Geraci, Men's Health, December 25, 2000 The normal level of testosterone in your bloodstream is between 350 and 1,000 nanograms per deciliter (ng/dl). Like combable hair, those quantities silently start to wane around age 40. You lose about 1 percent a year -- a harmless decline in the short term, but a cause of obesity, brittle bones, muscle loss and impotence by the time you reach your 60s -- if you live that long. Testosterone levels in the low range (a blood serum score below 350 ng/dl) may increase your chances of dying of a heart attack. It's not just an old man's problem, either. Men in their 30s and 40s also fall prey to low testosterone counts. It's a disorder called hypogonadism, and it can be caused by an undescended testicle, a testicular injury, a pituitary gland disorder or even prescription drugs. It usually goes undiagnosed until a man hits his doctor with a telltale complaint: "I can't get an erection." "If you have reduced levels of sexual desire, have your testosterone level checked immediately," says Dr. Allen Seftel, a urologist at Case Western Reserve University Hospitals of Cleveland. You can replenish your testosterone stores with injections, gels, pills or patches, but these medical treatments are no panacea: Side effects include acne, high cholesterol, shrunken testicles and liver damage. Further, don't take supplements like DHEA or androstenedione to boost testosterone; they might increase your risks of prostate cancer and heart disease. "For men with borderline testosterone scores, I advise them to try to raise their levels through exercise and weight loss before going on testosterone therapy," says Dr. Goldberg. And it might pay to start young. "Since your testosterone declines at a steady rate, it's conceivable that raising your hormone levels naturally in your 20s and 30s could help you maintain higher levels later on," he says. Either way, the reward can be a stronger physique and better bedroom sessions than you'd otherwise deserve. Below are 13 tips designed to get your juice up -- safely. Get Rid of the Flopping Belly But Lose Only One Pound a Week Skip the Atkins Fad Your protein intake should be about 16 percent of your daily calories, Incledon says. So, if you're the average 170-pound man who eats 2,900 calories a day, you should eat about 140 grams of protein daily, which is about the amount in two chicken breasts and a 6-ounce can of tuna. Have Morning Sex Stick With Tough Exercises Make Nuts Your Midnight Snack Squeeze Out Five Repetitions per Set Do Three Sets of Each Weight-Lifting Movement Rest Harder Than You Work Out Drive Home Sober Have a Sandwich at 3 p.m. Buy the Fried Tortilla Chips Stop Surfing for Porn at 2 a.m.
And another one about boosting your hormones:
http://www.bodybuildingweb.net/blog/how-to-increase-natural-testosterone-production/
Testosterone is a important hormone for men and even for woman. Low testosterone will affect your mood, sex life, and health. After 18 is when testoerone levels start to slowly decline in men. Some men in their 20′s or 30′s can have low testosterone levels, called hypogonadism. Hypogonadism can be caused from various causes including; undescended testicle, a testicular injury, a pituitary gland disorder, or prescription drugs. Testosterone is extremely important for bodybuilders, because it is the main anabolic hormone in the body. Nothing contributes to muscle building like testosterone levels. It’s important to note that testosterone artificially given, will only hurt you in the long run. Your body will stop producing it naturally and your testicles will “shrivel up”. Long term steroid abuse can permanently effect your natural testosterone production. Women bodybuilders should not be afraid to naturally increase their testosterone levels. It will improve their confidence, energy, and sex drive also. How to maximize natural testosterone production: - Excercise regularly. If your a bodybuilder you should be doing this already. - Make sure your diet is high in good fats, such as monounsaturated found in nuts such as peanuts and walnuts. Adequate omega 3 fats is crucial. They are found in walnuts, fish, and flaxseed. - Give your body adequate rest. Get 8 hours of non-interrupted deep sleep everyday. Go to sleep at the same time everyday so you don’t interfere with your circadian rhythm. - Avoid long term consistent calorie restriction, which can cause lower testosterone levels. -Through dieting and weightlifting, keep your muscle mass high and body fat% reasonably low. Fat cells in the body elevate estrogen, which can reduce your testosterone levels. - Avoid overtraining. - Get adequate zinc in diet. Zinc is a hard mineral to absorb and many people are deficient in their diet. Zinc plays a crucial role in maintaining optimum testosterone levels and is the main basis for the supplement ZMA. Sometimes a multi-vitamin is still not enough for getting enough zinc due to inferior zinc form and because of the extra requirements by active athletes. Therefore bodybuilders often notice a improvement in sleeping and testosterone levels, when taking an additional zinc supplement. While some believe that squats and deadlifts help increase testosterone levels long term, it is more complicated then that. There is a temporary increase in testosterone during and after resistance excercise, but testosterone levels will then quickly drop below normal for about a day or 2. Then testosterone levels will come back to normal. Resistance training will help maintain or give a small boost to testosterone levels long term, only as long as you aren’t overtraining. Excessive weight training or not giving your body breaks every few weeks, will actually cause lower testosterone levels. Testosterone levels drop from overtraining because of higher levels of cortisol, a hormone released from resistance excercise. Diet seems to play a bigger role in maintaining testosterone levels. In a study published J Appl Physiol. 1997 Jan;82(1):49-54 on individuals doing resistance training under various diets. The testosterone levels temporarily increased post resistance excercise in all groups, but the true correlation between the groups resting Testosterone levels, was actually due to their diet(fat intake).
Hope this helps. Testosterone is very important. Stay away from steroids though. External testo is never a good idea.
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You should but be warned - it will kick your ass!
Aside from a few minor changes, it's basically the same routine Dr. Norton uses. Because of age, I have to be careful with squats and dead lifts - I only go max heavy with them twice a month(on a good day I can squat 405, and low 300's for dead lifts). But all the trainers tell me I lift damn good weight for a 50-year-old. I had to show one cat my driver's license because he didn't believe me. | |
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I checked out that link you posted and will definitely give that workout a try. Thanks for the info. How long do you rest? Or, how often do you train one muscle group? " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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In between sets? On power days, @2 mins., light days, @45-70secs.
My workout routine goes like this:
Monday - upper body power(@2 hrs.)
Tuesday - lower body power(@2 hrs.)
Wednesday - rest
Thursday - chest & arms light(@90mins.)
Friday - legs light, take a few minutes rest, then back & shoulders light(@2-2 1/2 hrs.)
Weekends - rest
With this routine, you don't need a lot of cardio, believe me.
My typical upper body power Monday: Bent over rows, or Pendlay rows or T-Bar rows - 3-6 sets, 3-5 reps Weighted wide-grip chin-ups - 2 sets, 6-10 reps Rack chins - 2 sets, 6-10 reps Flat Dumbell or Flat Barbell bench press - 3 sets, 3-5 reps Weighted Dips - 2 sets, 6-10 reps Seated shoulder dumbell(or barbell) press - 3 sets, 6-10 reps Cambered bar bicep curls - 3 sets, 6-10 reps Skull crushers - 3 sets, 6-10 reps | |
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I'll jump in this thread I exercise about 4/5 days a week, and take Saturday and Sundays as my resting days. I've been doing the same routine weekly for about a month. I thought at first there wasn't anything happening, but I've noticed that I look leaner, I'm able to do more reps, so that means I'm getting stronger, and I'm growing muscle as well I'm already naturally lean, so my exercises focus more on building lean muscle. I really don't focus that much on losing weight, since it's already happening. I mainly focus on boosting my metabolism, by eating 4-6 small meals a day, and building muscle, which will burn fat.
Mondays 48 Wide grip pull downs 36 Bent over rows 36 One arm dumbell rows 36 Dumbell curls 80 Weighted Crunches 80 Hip thrusts
Tuesday 48 Lunges 36 Deadlifts 36 Calf raises 12 Lateral raises 12 Side raises 12 Military presses 12 Front Raises 36 Delt flys 36 Upright rows 80 Weighted crunches 80 Hip thrusts
Wednesday (Rest day, alternating weekly) 36 Incline flys 48 Skull crushers 36 Bicep curls 80 Weighted Crunches 80 Hip thrusts
Thursday 48 Concentration curls 36 Bicep curls 36 Overhead extensions 80 Wighted crunches 80 Hip thrusts
Friday 48 Squats 36 Deadlifts 36 Calf raises 48 Upright rows
Saturday & Sundays rest day
As far as nutrition, I am HORRIBLE with dieting, so I just eat something small every 3-4 hours, and cut fried foods to a minimum. I'm slowly weening myself off of them | |
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A word of advice to all - don't spend a lot of time on shoulders. Your shoulders are already getting a workout when you do back and chest, so take it easy. Too much will lead to injury.
Lower Body Power Tuesday;
Leg Press - 3-5 sets, 3-5 reps Squats - 3-5 sets, 3-5 reps Hack Squats - 2 sets, 6-10 reps Leg Extensions - 2 sets, 6-10 reps Deadlifts - 3 sets, 5-8 reps Lying leg curls - 2 sets, 6-10 reps Standing calf raises - 3 sets, 6-10 reps Seated Calf raises - 2 sets, 6-10 reps
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Chest & Arms Light - Thursday
Flat Barbell bench press - 3 sets, 8-12 reps Incline Barbell bench press - 3 sets, 8-12 reps Hammer strength chest press - 3 sets, 12-15 reps Incline cable fly, or Incline dumbell fly - 2 sets, 15-20 reps
Preacher curls - 3 sets, 8-12 reps Overhead bar tricep extensions - 3 sets, 8-12 reps Concentration curls - 2 sets, 12-15 reps Cable tricep pulldowns - 2 sets, 12-15 reps Incline dumbell curls - 2 sets, 15-20 reps Tricep kickbacks - 2 sets, 15-20 reps
Legs, Back & Shoulders Light - Friday
Squats - 3 sets, 8-12 reps Hack Squats or Leg Press - 2 sets, 12-15 reps Leg Extensions - 3 sets, 12-15 reps Romanian deadlifts - 3 sets, 8-12 reps Lying leg curls - 2 sets, 12-15 reps Seated leg curls - 2 sets, 12-15 reps Donkey calf raises - 4 sets, 10-15 reps Seated calf raises - 3 sets, 15-20 reps
Bent over rows, Pendlay rows or T-Bar rows - 3 sets, 8-12 reps Rack Chins - 3 sets, 8-12 reps Seated cable rows - 3 sets, 8-12 reps Dumbell rows or Dumbell shrugs - 2 sets, 12-15 reps Close grip pulldowns - 2 sets, 12-15 reps Seated dumbell or seated barbell shoulder press - 3 sets, 8-12 reps Upright rows - 2 sets, 12-15 reps Side Lat raises - 3 sets, 12-20 reps | |
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You're right. I've noticed that. I just like to isolate them | |
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The Insanity workout is already kicking my ass I'm postponing the second week too because of school and I haven't had time or energy to actually get to it. I barely get through the workouts "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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To UptownNY : I was referring to the rest inbetween workouts, not between sets while working out, but thanks for posting your workout plan, this kinda answers my question. So you train your arms only once a week DIRECTLY and isolated, and indirectly when you do your upper body training? A good friend of mine who kinda resembles Mr.T in his prime also works his arms only once a week directly/isolated. He told me that more than that would be too much and lead to overtraining.
I used to train them at least three or four times a week but felt like I´d overtrained most of the time. Now that I only train them twice a week I feel much better and my arms seem to get much bigger, too. By the way, Tamak from The Last Dragon still looks VERY cut and muscular, even more so than ever before, and he once said that overtraining is a myth but I think overtraining is a reality. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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How fat can you be and still safely lift weights? I have the feeling I should try and get half the 100 lbs that I need to loose off first before I do much more than a walking routine. What is your thought on fat, fat people lifting weights safely. There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Some of you are insane.
I have to be really careful with exercise because of my disorder; I'm prone to injury, joint dislocations and I fatigue very easily.
I work with older, developmentally disabled adults, and lately we've been doing Richard Simmons' Sweatin' To The Oldies tapes. They're fun, gentle, easy to follow and low-impact. I have been enjoying the shit out of them!
When I first started doing the exercises along with my class a few weeks ago, I had to stop and rest every few minutes. I can now do 15 minutes straight (I do adjust some of the moves to protect my joints, but I do most of them as shown)! Richard Simmons has totally increased my endurance! This has translated to more stamina while fucking, which is also good. | |
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I am FINALLY getting back into the swing of things, and loving it.
Exercise can do so much to make you feel more accomplished. It's so important if just for that reason. | |
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Do cardio and drop the weight. Then worry about lifting.
Not because it's unsafe when you're fat, but because it's utterly pointless. Why spend your energy toning muscles that are virtually invisible under layers of fat? Your time and energy are much better spent doing mostly cardio to burn off most of the excess fat, then work in weight training to tone the body that starts to appear.
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Do they have these on DVD now? There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin. | |
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Yup, I checked. Amazon has them for reasonable prices.
I know it's cliche, but it really doesn't feel like exercise! | |
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Nice! But how do you cope with the humidity and heat in Thailand? Or is that not a problem because you have AC at the gym? Or have you gotten accustomed to the climate now?
(and is it really that different from the humidity and heat in Florida?)
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I haven't seen you on here lately "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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