NDRU said:

Dave1992 said:

No, I don´t. I´m just saying that if they were better at doing their job this wouldn´t be the first thing that came to your mind, - they´d be able to make you relax and concentrate on other facts and not how they do it for the money only.

yes, I am pretty sure the ones who make the most money are the ones who are convincing that is actually exciting for them too, and not just about the money

Not if they ugly.

Jus' sayin'.

Cerebus said:

NDRU said:

yes, I am pretty sure the ones who make the most money are the ones who are convincing that is actually exciting for them too, and not just about the money

Not if they ugly.

Jus' sayin'.

...and are not ugly, yes

waste of money. you're missing nothing, darlin. believe me and the thousands i've wasted

Never been to one.

I wonder if they have any here.

Dave1992 said:

dJJ said:

You think they would volunteer to dance late nights barely dressed, having ugly loneley guys getting off on them, trying to grope everywhere, because it's so much fun???

These girls are not there because it's the most interesting or best job they can think of.

Offcourse they do it for the money.

No, I don´t. I´m just saying that if they were better at doing their job this wouldn´t be the first thing that came to your mind, - they´d be able to make you relax and concentrate on other facts and not how they do it for the money only.

There are naked women in the room dancing around for your entertainment, and you are concerned about their priorities in life?

It's not "real", and it isn't meant to be "real".

Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is?

If YOU can't relax and concentrate on other "facts" (lol wtf?), then that is your problem, not the girls dancing.

minneapolisFunq said:

Dave1992 said:

No, I don´t. I´m just saying that if they were better at doing their job this wouldn´t be the first thing that came to your mind, - they´d be able to make you relax and concentrate on other facts and not how they do it for the money only.

There are naked women in the room dancing around for your entertainment, and you are concerned about their priorities in life?

It's not "real", and it isn't meant to be "real".

Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is?

If YOU can't relax and concentrate on other "facts" (lol wtf?), then that is your problem, not the girls dancing.

What the hell are you talking about?

I was talking about how they do their job, not their priorities in life. You say they do it for my entertainment, when I said what I didn´t like about the experience was that I could sense they did it for the money only.

If I were to enjoy the things there for what they are, I would be quite a pathetic person, in my personal opinion.

I've never been to a go-go bar in Bangkok, but I'm thinking it wouldn't be nearly as interesting as the karaoke bars out of town. For one thing, they're surely full of foreigners, which makes things a bit different. Karaoke bars out in the sticks are fascinating, but strip clubs, go-go bars, I just have no desire to go to. I like something more interesting, a bit more intimate, more personal and individual from one night to the next.

insatiable3 said:

JustErin said:

I like going to strip joints at the end of a night out because they stay open later. Shitty thing is you need to be with a dude/dudes to get in...but most times some dude will just blurt out, "Oh they are with me" and you're good to go.

But I don't go to male strip joints. I went 2x and they really are beyond pathetic. It's either insanely obnoxious bachelorette parties or morbidly obese young women paying for dances.

So you think it's something I need to experience? Because everyone is like you need to experience that once in your life.. I'm out of the loop I guess lol

Why is a strip club something you need to experience once in your life? It's not the damn Eiffel Tower. If you've never felt the need to go look at naked women for your own reasons, then don't go because some morons told you it should be on your imaginary bucket list.

I have always enjoyed going to strip clubs, because I really like looking at naked girls.

RenHoek said:

if you're determined to go (and I think you should...) do a little research online first... Yelp actually reviews "Adult Entertainment" so you can try to find one that's not too skeevy.

Unless of course you're into skeevy in which case, go anywhere.

If you're looking for attention from the dancers be prepared to $pend Ca$h... but it's far easier to go and have a drink or two and let someone else make it rain...

If you go with your hubby be prepared that girls will try to take you (or just him) to the VIP... that's where you sign over the note to your car...

That's true for men. Not always true for girls. In my experience, strippers really like girls - it's the men who need to shell out for them to be nice. So if insatiable really wants to go, she can get all dolled up with her boobs sticking out, and if she looks like she's having a great time I bet the dancers will want to squeeze her tits for a dollar.

I agree with you, do a little research. At the clubs Jersey and I like to frequent, the dancers are mostly hot, and always super nice, it's their job! If women are included in one's sexual preferences, why wouldn't you like a place where all the women are naked and really nice to you?

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Dave1992 said:

minneapolisFunq said:

There are naked women in the room dancing around for your entertainment, and you are concerned about their priorities in life?

It's not "real", and it isn't meant to be "real".

Why can't you just enjoy it for what it is?

If YOU can't relax and concentrate on other "facts" (lol wtf?), then that is your problem, not the girls dancing.

What the hell are you talking about?

I was talking about how they do their job, not their priorities in life. You say they do it for my entertainment, when I said what I didn´t like about the experience was that I could sense they did it for the money only.

If I were to enjoy the things there for what they are, I would be quite a pathetic person, in my personal opinion.

Why do people work?

For the money.

Of course some people enjoy their jobs, but its all about the paper.

I think your ideology is pathetic.

BobGeorge909 said:

some r great...some suck ass...some r seedy as they get, some have class. Whicheverone U go to, make sure it's well lit....lemme shut up...your dude knows where to take u!

THIS! ^^

I haven't gone to a strip club in a while, but the last 2 private parties I went to that had strippers was so much fun!

They're horrible. The men look like plastic dolls without a hair on their entire body and they don't even show the dick, not that they'd have one worth seeing anyway because it's probably shaved as well.

vainandy said:

They're horrible. The men look like plastic dolls without a hair on their entire body and they don't even show the dick, not that they'd have one worth seeing anyway because it's probably shaved as well.

Does hair make or break a deal for you? I mean, what if the guy was SMOKIN hot, but when he got naked, he had shaved his hair... would you turn it down?

tinaz said:

vainandy said:

They're horrible. The men look like plastic dolls without a hair on their entire body and they don't even show the dick, not that they'd have one worth seeing anyway because it's probably shaved as well.

Does hair make or break a deal for you? I mean, what if the guy was SMOKIN hot, but when he got naked, he had shaved his hair... would you turn it down?

I sure would and have plenty of times before. Hair is what makes a dick sexy. It's what separates the men from the boys.

vainandy said:

tinaz said:

Does hair make or break a deal for you? I mean, what if the guy was SMOKIN hot, but when he got naked, he had shaved his hair... would you turn it down?

I sure would and have plenty of times before. Hair is what makes a dick sexy. It's what separates the men from the boys.

And women from girls. I say this same thing, but some people just don't get it.

Cerebus said:

vainandy said:

I sure would and have plenty of times before. Hair is what makes a dick sexy. It's what separates the men from the boys.

And women from girls. I say this same thing, but some people just don't get it.

eh, IMO actual maturity is what separates them, being shaved is not going to make Meryl Streep look like Abigail Breslin

Never could go to a strip club. I feel like getting an erection in public would give me flashbacks to my embarassing teenage years.

HobbesLeCute said:

Never could go to a strip club. I feel like getting an erection in public would give me flashbacks to my embarassing teenage years.

isn't it dark in there? it's not like in PE!

Fauxie said:

Never been to one.

I wonder if they have any here.

of course not

ZombieKitten said:

HobbesLeCute said:

Never could go to a strip club. I feel like getting an erection in public would give me flashbacks to my embarassing teenage years.

isn't it dark in there? it's not like in PE!

I feel like the darkness only call more attention to the fact my tip glows like E.T's finger.

HobbesLeCute said:

ZombieKitten said:

isn't it dark in there? it's not like in PE!

I feel like the darkness only call more attention to the fact my tip glows like E.T's finger.

ZombieKitten said:

HobbesLeCute said:

I feel like the darkness only call more attention to the fact my tip glows like E.T's finger.

This would be a much different, much more exicting movie than E.T.

HobbesLeCute said:

NDRU said:

Cerebus said:

And women from girls. I say this same thing, but some people just don't get it.

eh, IMO actual maturity is what separates them, being shaved is not going to make Meryl Streep look like Abigail Breslin

Totally disagree. And I was going to type a long paragraph here. But... whatever. Different strokes and all that.

Cerebus said:

vainandy said:

I sure would and have plenty of times before. Hair is what makes a dick sexy. It's what separates the men from the boys.

And women from girls. I say this same thing, but some people just don't get it.

Exactly. When I see someone shaved, I immediately get an image of a child in my head and I would feel like I was molesting a child if I slept with them. And when I see those that aren't shaved but are trimmed, it makes me think of someone who has just reached puberty and hasn't fully grown all of their pubic hair yet. The image is still of someone underage.

What it all boils down to, is I want someone that is not only fully grown, but also looks fully grown. Hell, when I was a little boy myself and would compare dicks with the other boys in the neighborhood my age, I never got an erection and wasn't turned on one bit. But if their fathers had came in whipped their full grown hairy dicks out, I would have been hard as a rock.

minneapolisFunq said:

Dave1992 said:

What the hell are you talking about?

I was talking about how they do their job, not their priorities in life. You say they do it for my entertainment, when I said what I didn´t like about the experience was that I could sense they did it for the money only.

If I were to enjoy the things there for what they are, I would be quite a pathetic person, in my personal opinion.

Why do people work?

For the money.

Of course some people enjoy their jobs, but its all about the paper.

I think your ideology is pathetic.

My ideology?

Are you high or something? Because you're talking in circles... First you say I shouldn't expect them to have fun, then you say they do it for my entertainment, now you say OF COURSE some people enjoy their jobs, but these bitches do it for the money only and my ideology is pathetic.

Mate, do you even read through what you write or are you doing this just for the sake of having an argument? It certainly seems so.

NDRU said:

Cerebus said:

And women from girls. I say this same thing, but some people just don't get it.

eh, IMO actual maturity is what separates them, being shaved is not going to make Meryl Streep look like Abigail Breslin

Going on visual sight alone, if you see someone naked in a magazine, you have no idea how mature a person is because you know absolutely nothing about them. They are just a naked body in a magazine and you can't judge how mature they may be by the way they dress because they are naked and aren't wearing clothes. So going by sight alone, and most men, whether straight or gay, get turned on by the sight of a naked body of the gender of their preference, someone with pubic hair looks much more grown than someone shaved.

I can remember when all this shaving first started happening in the magazines. The straight magazines were dressing women up in schoolgirl uniforms and having them suck on lollipops in various states of undress until they got fully naked and then they would have s shaved pussy. And in the gay magazines, they would look for the youngest looking men they could find and promote them as "barely legal boys" in classroom settings or in settings at home with their friends after school. I notice that both striaght and gay porn these days loves to promote things as "barely legal".

It started out as the porn industry trying to put images out there that would turn perverts on that fantasize about underage people but it became so widespread over the years that people started thinking it was all about "grooming" but that wasn't the case at all when it first started. It started out for perverted reasons and eventually grew into "grooming".

ZombieKitten said:

Fauxie said:

Never been to one.

I wonder if they have any here.

of course not

Still, I've never been to one. Maybe I will sometime though.

vainandy said:

NDRU said:

eh, IMO actual maturity is what separates them, being shaved is not going to make Meryl Streep look like Abigail Breslin

Going on visual sight alone, if you see someone naked in a magazine, you have no idea how mature a person is because you know absolutely nothing about them. They are just a naked body in a magazine and you can't judge how mature they may be by the way they dress because they are naked and aren't wearing clothes. So going by sight alone, and most men, whether straight or gay, get turned on by the sight of a naked body of the gender of their preference, someone with pubic hair looks much more grown than someone shaved.

I can remember when all this shaving first started happening in the magazines. The straight magazines were dressing women up in schoolgirl uniforms and having them suck on lollipops in various states of undress until they got fully naked and then they would have s shaved pussy. And in the gay magazines, they would look for the youngest looking men they could find and promote them as "barely legal boys" in classroom settings or in settings at home with their friends after school. I notice that both striaght and gay porn these days loves to promote things as "barely legal".

It started out as the porn industry trying to put images out there that would turn perverts on that fantasize about underage people but it became so widespread over the years that people started thinking it was all about "grooming" but that wasn't the case at all when it first started. It started out for perverted reasons and eventually grew into "grooming".

A grown womans pussy looks very different from a girl, shaved or not

paintsprayer said:

vainandy said:

Going on visual sight alone, if you see someone naked in a magazine, you have no idea how mature a person is because you know absolutely nothing about them. They are just a naked body in a magazine and you can't judge how mature they may be by the way they dress because they are naked and aren't wearing clothes. So going by sight alone, and most men, whether straight or gay, get turned on by the sight of a naked body of the gender of their preference, someone with pubic hair looks much more grown than someone shaved.

I can remember when all this shaving first started happening in the magazines. The straight magazines were dressing women up in schoolgirl uniforms and having them suck on lollipops in various states of undress until they got fully naked and then they would have s shaved pussy. And in the gay magazines, they would look for the youngest looking men they could find and promote them as "barely legal boys" in classroom settings or in settings at home with their friends after school. I notice that both striaght and gay porn these days loves to promote things as "barely legal".

It started out as the porn industry trying to put images out there that would turn perverts on that fantasize about underage people but it became so widespread over the years that people started thinking it was all about "grooming" but that wasn't the case at all when it first started. It started out for perverted reasons and eventually grew into "grooming".

A grown womans pussy looks very different from a girl, shaved or not

At the age of 14 or 15 - no it doesn't look different.

Nor does shaved = girl. A girl at 15 has hair....yet she is still a child.